@@goodalibi He'd probably say that when looking for the best performance, you need everything at hand. Like the shift for example, no extra long stick, just straight to the point.
I like the way the young men are so respectful of Mark and Mark has no airs and takes them seriously as well. As a non-music teacher of 25 years, I know that MK is a Master teacher. So patient, humble and an expert in his content. Joy to watch.
Backstory - Jimi used to be my guitar teacher back when this was recorded. He was approached to be on this since he was a very well known guitarist from the Newcastle area. He was really excited to sit with Mark and play for him. Jimi is an excellent metal guitarist and was a couple years into expanding into jazz. He was pumped to go there and show off his shredding skills to Mark. When he arrived the production staff basically told him he needed to change his guitar tone, use no distortion and slow everything down. The whole thing was filmed after these poor guys had their wings clipped just so they could sit with him so it's not surprising the whole mood was off for the shoot.
I met Jimi back in 2004 and he didn't speak too highly of the whole experience. Mark's disdain for hard rock and metal is evident the moment Jimi mentions his love of Iron Maiden and Van Halen. Jimi is a wonderful guitarist and a top bloke too.
Honestly, I’m not big into full on heavy metal, but I really respect the skills that guys have in that genre, and frankly it speaks ill of Knopfler if he takes an attitude of disdain towards metal or other musical genres.
@@tribeshift no disdain, just not his thing….I’ve been playing in metal bands for decades and I totally understand his feelings….so many “metal heads” are absolute d bags
I have to say, KUDOS to Mark Knopfler for his intense patience with these fellas. He is so SOOOO fucking gracious; I love when he says "that's really really lovely, but if you..." He wants to say "SHUT UP AND DON'T TELL ME WHAT YOU CAN OR CANNOT DO! LISTEN TO ME! I KNOW A BAZILLION TIMES MORE THAN YOU, SO SHUT UP AND LISTEN, YOU TWATS!!!!"
Mark is totally right about jimi taking too long to get to the whammy bar, that guy jimi guy’s over the rainbow sounds like “Somewhere over the rain.................bow”
In all fairness, he did mention that he started out playing metal, in which case dive bombs are the norm. But, still, if Knopfler tell you to not do something, don't do it!!!
it's hilarious when Mark goes what got you into jazz and sits back. it's all the things he doesn't say that makes this funny. like oh my god you're into jazz
Jimi was briefly my teacher around this time and i can tell you he's was a great metal player very technical and fast. Satriani, vai, EVH stuff. He got a bit of a raw deal on this one i think, not his style at that time
I'm so embarrassed even though I was not there! He was trying to talk and keeps getting cut off. Mark was trying to relate his explanation to a story about one of his hobbies, and the guy just couldn't listen to Mark.
They make springs that fit inside whammy bar hole so you can place the bar and leave it there and it wont fall back down. all these players were great !
Jimmy seems so taken back on marks advice. Jesus, id take all advice given and run with it. You can learn so much from other guitarists to better yourself. There is no time for pig headedness and arrogance. Its gets you nowhere
minute 4:02 i can't tell if Mark is actually getting frustrated or loving the sound of the whammy bar . I must admit that sometimes the overuse of the whammy bar it can ge to be a little exaggerated , but it also sound with such an unique color.
a little late but watch it again. he made a mistake and did the thing at the wrong part and too early that's why you don't hear the part of the song "way up high" which is where he did it earlier correctly. that's why afterwards mark asked "was that where you did it?". so it's maybe not frustration but disappointment. it could also look like he's trying to hold his laughter but seriously though there's no way you can hold your laughter at that part.
I felt they should be more agreeable to Knopflers ways lol . But then they can all play pretty well . Jimi savage wrote in Guitar Techniques magazine back in the 90s I’m sure , fantastic guitarist
I don't think MK is looking down his nose at these guys. They all play very nicely - but MK is there to teach these guys and they're arguing with him about it. If they didn't come to learn, why'd they come? My sense is they just expected Mark Knopfler to tell them each how great they are.
I can't help but wonder how many of these comments stem from jealousy. Here's my advice, go enrol in a college for music and you might get the opportunity to get a lesson from a legend.
It amazes me that they had a one on one lesson with the legend Mark Knopfler and they are too busy trying to show off instead of actually learn something that would help them improve. SMH... Jimi NOOOOOO... shut up and quit trying to upstage him with your supposed awesome volume swells!
Those dudes were very well respected guitarists in their own right who were established in the industry and with their own styles. They were probably expecting to learn about the peculiarities of Mark's approach rather than having their own technique taken apart and have him tell them the 'problems' with their style.
Good point! Definitely a different way to look at it. I just know if I was lucky enough, I'd have done whatever the man said, you can always take it or leave it later. Just a matter of respect I guess.
I guess if I was on camera I would try to just take the criticisms, but I think I would be a bit worried in the moment that people who see this would view my technique as less than the pro standard I had worked hard to achieve, and my reputation based off of that would suffer. Mark was talking to them like they were learners, rather than this being a meeting of technical peers, and it would have probably thrown me too to be honest.
That's if I was in those guy's positions, as a respected guitarist with a rep. I am nowhere near as good as them and I would have tried to do everything Mark said!
Grillmeister Baconator The only guy I ever thought uses it tastefully is David Gilmour. I took mine off my strat years ago. They are such a waste of space.
These kids aren't listening to Mark at all. Especially the second guy with his whamalamadingdong bar! Dudes, when Mark gives you an instruction you stop what you are doing and do what he tells you, or next time he won't give you any instruction thinking you are too dense to learn. Why even take a masterclass with Mark Knopfler if you are so full of yourselves?... lol
Mark: Driving a racing car, which is one of my hobbies...
Jimi: baowaoaoaoaoaoaoaoaowoaoaoaa
HAHAHAHAHAHAH
ahhahahahahahaha
No kidding!! I would have loved to hear Mark’s analogy about driving and playing the guitar.
Haha so true
@@goodalibi He'd probably say that when looking for the best performance, you need everything at hand. Like the shift for example, no extra long stick, just straight to the point.
Mark's wincing about 4:05 is hilarious. He's trying to be as diplomatic as possible.
this 2nd guy should definitly buy jazzmaster and go into 'shoegazing'
I like the way the young men are so respectful of Mark and Mark has no airs and takes them seriously as well. As a non-music teacher of 25 years, I know that MK is a Master teacher. So patient, humble and an expert in his content. Joy to watch.
Backstory - Jimi used to be my guitar teacher back when this was recorded. He was approached to be on this since he was a very well known guitarist from the Newcastle area. He was really excited to sit with Mark and play for him. Jimi is an excellent metal guitarist and was a couple years into expanding into jazz. He was pumped to go there and show off his shredding skills to Mark. When he arrived the production staff basically told him he needed to change his guitar tone, use no distortion and slow everything down. The whole thing was filmed after these poor guys had their wings clipped just so they could sit with him so it's not surprising the whole mood was off for the shoot.
I met Jimi back in 2004 and he didn't speak too highly of the whole experience. Mark's disdain for hard rock and metal is evident the moment Jimi mentions his love of Iron Maiden and Van Halen. Jimi is a wonderful guitarist and a top bloke too.
Honestly, I’m not big into full on heavy metal, but I really respect the skills that guys have in that genre, and frankly it speaks ill of Knopfler if he takes an attitude of disdain towards metal or other musical genres.
Makes sense why these guys appear a bit sour in the video. Thanks for the backstory clears this up
For not totally being in his comfort zone, he played beautifully. If I played like that in front of Mark Knopfler, I'd be pleased with myself.
@@tribeshift no disdain, just not his thing….I’ve been playing in metal bands for decades and I totally understand his feelings….so many “metal heads” are absolute d bags
2:48 😂😂 “could you not have it a little closer?” Mark is a savage.
3:17 “When you do manage to get it”. 😂😂😂😂 this whole back n forth about the tremolo arm position had be dying.
Poor Mark; I guess he was convicted of some fairly heinous crime and this is part of his sentence...
Well, there were some major fashion crimes which even by 80's standards badly missed the mark (no pun intended).
This comment made me feel a bit less cringe for Mark when this dude wasn't listening to him
Hahahaha, the amount of PAIN on Mark's face at 4:05 is amazing
priceless
...yeah... was that where you did it?
'.....yeah'
'I don't really think about it'
'......oh I see'
I remember my first guitar lesson too
you can just make out his face expression - he had to compose himself, cos inside he threw up a little
Jimmy was quite proud of his technique at 8:18...and Mark was like "Woahkay then".
I have to say, KUDOS to Mark Knopfler for his intense patience with these fellas. He is so SOOOO fucking gracious; I love when he says "that's really really lovely, but if you..." He wants to say "SHUT UP AND DON'T TELL ME WHAT YOU CAN OR CANNOT DO! LISTEN TO ME! I KNOW A BAZILLION TIMES MORE THAN YOU, SO SHUT UP AND LISTEN, YOU TWATS!!!!"
Mark: "What is it about the guitar you like?"
Chris: "What, this guitar?"
Come on, mate...
Peter Sorensen Guitar he needs to be groom more !
The comments on this video are (almost) making me piss my pants quite frankly. Too funny.
Thé comments are the best part!!!!!
If i was sitting there with Mark, I wouldn't even speak or play. I would let him show me everything. These guys are so full of themselves.
D1 glazer
Mark is totally right about jimi taking too long to get to the whammy bar, that guy jimi guy’s over the rainbow sounds like “Somewhere over the rain.................bow”
Thank god the third guy didn't use whammy bar, had enough of that from the other two lol
I'm reminded that Mark used to be a teacher - a varsity lecturer. He's got the skill of working with students.
0:12 guitarists don't normally shine to well at school :P so true, unless you're Brian may.
It's like they think he's just some guy from the street lol
I respect this man now.
somewhere over the rain.............bow!
In all fairness, he did mention that he started out playing metal, in which case dive bombs are the norm. But, still, if Knopfler tell you to not do something, don't do it!!!
or the guy just came to the wrong masterclass
Oh Jimi, never has one man tried so hard to not be taught
Aahahahaha smh
I mean, he did say he wasn’t a big fan of academics.
nice to see mark like that..good session, humble teacher...and all the guitar heroes here: bet u do a good job at Mac Donalds..:))
MARK KNOPFLER UN GRAND MONSIEUR
Jimi Savage: I used to like bands like Iron Maiden and Van Halen.
Mark Knopfler: So you liked making a racket.
LOL.
...he liked bands with talent, then?
Then goes on to play somewhere over the rainbow
Hellwyck are you saying bands that don’t do a lot of affects and wanking don’t have talent? Lol. 😂
Best part of the video.
it's hilarious when Mark goes what got you into jazz and sits back. it's all the things he doesn't say that makes this funny. like oh my god you're into jazz
The last guy to demonstrate is the most interesting to Knopfler. I think he looks for interesting chordal voicings for his writing.
Jimi was briefly my teacher around this time and i can tell you he's was a great metal player very technical and fast. Satriani, vai, EVH stuff. He got a bit of a raw deal on this one i think, not his style at that time
Excellent....cheers from Canada.
4:52
Mark: What is it about the guitar you like?
Chris: What? This guitar?
Mark (to himself): D'uh! Kill me now!
i feel bad for bachelor #2. marky mark was riding him lol
Do any of these guys know a Dire Straits or Mark Knopfler song? Lol
I'm so embarrassed even though I was not there! He was trying to talk and keeps getting cut off. Mark was trying to relate his explanation to a story about one of his hobbies, and the guy just couldn't listen to Mark.
Such a nice chap is Mark brilliant thanks.
the guy who actually listened was nice
I would barely be able to play with the Sultan of Swing watching.
jIMMY HAS A FLOOPY WHAMMY BAR...
Astonishing. These guys are sitting opposite a real-life musical genius and they won't shut up and take his advice.
Peter you took the words out of my mouth. The second guy simply refused.
@@JAYDUB1279 well the guy did go to music college
He's also wanting them to express themselves. Though there is some tension in the room.
All 3 full time fools
You're right! I AGREE!!!!
Sweet Dreams, by Don Gibson. also recorded by Roy Buchanan, and Knopfler and Chet Atkins.
Can you bend the trem a little more? My dogs aren't howling yet.
This one nearly killed me hahahahaha
They make springs that fit inside whammy bar hole so you can place the bar and leave it there and it wont fall back down. all these players were great !
If anyone ever earned the title "guitar god "its mark knopfler.
"racing car..........." can you imagine having a guitar lesson you had , online forever for people to see? no thanks
Good God... the first two guys... just listen and take notes!
Jimmy seems so taken back on marks advice. Jesus, id take all advice given and run with it. You can learn so much from other guitarists to better yourself. There is no time for pig headedness and arrogance. Its gets you nowhere
I found a youtube video of Jimi, just interested to see what he's doing now.
He still has his trem arm swinging loose... each to their own eh?....
You can tell that Mark is trying not to sound bossy as well. I just love how humble he is.
+furiouswanga My teacher would've raged so bad at those idiots hahaha
As would have i!
mark, just take his whammy bar away....ouch
Any one critiquing these guys cant even play a simple chord. They are doing some pretty advanced techniques.
That doesn't mean criticism isn't warranted.
If I tell you to wax on and wax off don't question it😜
whammy bar wankerism .... lol Mark is trying to be polite and get the point over that it's not a gimmick but the feel that counts...
Very diplomatic, yes! :-)
Jimmy is a great player and had a guitar school in Newcastle fountain of knowledge. Didn't know he had done this
love it, thank you!
minute 4:02 i can't tell if Mark is actually getting frustrated or loving the sound of the whammy bar . I must admit that sometimes the overuse of the whammy bar it can ge to be a little exaggerated , but it also sound with such an unique color.
a little late but watch it again. he made a mistake and did the thing at the wrong part and too early that's why you don't hear the part of the song "way up high" which is where he did it earlier correctly. that's why afterwards mark asked "was that where you did it?". so it's maybe not frustration but disappointment. it could also look like he's trying to hold his laughter but seriously though there's no way you can hold your laughter at that part.
those guys are professionals today
Lol not number 1
It just feels in the way now. I don't care if I waste time grabbing it. I gotta have my freedom, dammit!
I'm not even sure I understand what you're saying, but I feel as though I'm in tune with your sentiment. God bless. Brahman be praised.
I loved that how do u know when and where they r
I felt they should be more agreeable to Knopflers ways lol . But then they can all play pretty well . Jimi savage wrote in Guitar Techniques magazine back in the 90s I’m sure , fantastic guitarist
this is a great clip! - *thumbs up!* =D
~Eleven
Could you not have it... a little closer?
+Travis Peltier Daddy - growing impatient and a ever so slightly exasperated xD
Yeah, but...
I do agree with Mark about the tremelo. I hate seeing them used like that. Take a look at Hank Marvin for a masterclass on using the trem
Adorei!!!
Sorry but is this: "Mark Knopfler teaches autistic guitarists"?
Yeah cause Knopfler's pretty cool actually.. these guys just ... :/
lol!
They got shit ton of ego ffs knopfler is a legend nobody gives a shit how fast they can play just give the man respect and listen to him ffs
Wish I was there
Just because an expert tells you something, does not mean you have to do it.
I am not quite sure, if Mark liked it all the way he said so....
I miss your old content please make new uploads btw this is my new main channel on youtube
I don't think MK is looking down his nose at these guys. They all play very nicely - but MK is there to teach these guys and they're arguing with him about it. If they didn't come to learn, why'd they come?
My sense is they just expected Mark Knopfler to tell them each how great they are.
Thinking the same thing .
You need Hank Marvin in the picture too
Ohhhh Jimmy....
6:04 music police just making sure everything is in order.
*Illegal chord detected*
So did the 3rd guy become a rock or jazz star yet? :)
I like these master class videos. Make you realise the difference between God and mortal men. Mortal men suck..yeah big time^^
Jimmy is such a Jimmy
The best mod I ever made to my guitar was hardtailing it.
What difference did you find it made for your experience?
@@petersoda8787 Stopped the fuckin' tremolo from working obviously.
Jesus Jimmy it's like you're there to teach
Jimi didn't do well at School, can't think why can you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The first two are real muppets.. i haven't seen No.3 yet!
"It's really beautiful...except..." ;)
what's the name of the tune mark and the guy in the red check shirt jam in part 1??
What year is this from?
what this guitar? wahhhhhhhhhh
For a metal guitarist, he's shocking at cleans. But makes sense why.
I can't help but wonder how many of these comments stem from jealousy. Here's my advice, go enrol in a college for music and you might get the opportunity to get a lesson from a legend.
Nah, they won't.
Here's some better advice...stay as far as you can away from any ''music college''.
Wonder what was the cost of this lesson with Mark ??? Uuuaaaauu !!! Plying with god of guitar ?? Haa
Tommy emmanuel could be the best man to help them, i think but mark has done great work there !
Don't vibrate it kid it will be smoother dive and slow up and little down.
When was this? Early 90s?
They all seem so surprised that they have to learn something new
Who selected these bafoons?
Rich parents?
It amazes me that they had a one on one lesson with the legend Mark Knopfler and they are too busy trying to show off instead of actually learn something that would help them improve. SMH... Jimi NOOOOOO... shut up and quit trying to upstage him with your supposed awesome volume swells!
Those dudes were very well respected guitarists in their own right who were established in the industry and with their own styles. They were probably expecting to learn about the peculiarities of Mark's approach rather than having their own technique taken apart and have him tell them the 'problems' with their style.
Good point! Definitely a different way to look at it. I just know if I was lucky enough, I'd have done whatever the man said, you can always take it or leave it later. Just a matter of respect I guess.
I guess if I was on camera I would try to just take the criticisms, but I think I would be a bit worried in the moment that people who see this would view my technique as less than the pro standard I had worked hard to achieve, and my reputation based off of that would suffer. Mark was talking to them like they were learners, rather than this being a meeting of technical peers, and it would have probably thrown me too to be honest.
That's if I was in those guy's positions, as a respected guitarist with a rep. I am nowhere near as good as them and I would have tried to do everything Mark said!
First guy seems very nervous and over chatty... probably thinking to himself..
"Argh... Mr. Knopfler is watching my every move!"
Sort of Sort of Sort of
Whats with the whammy bars? Hendrix they re not.
I realise these guys are so stressed playing infront of the master, however could they have picked 3 players anymore average than these guys!
Mark appears annoyed and bored at times. Don't blame him.
Look like wham fans
he played Going Home...with the amp in the room....why the hell you gonna play over that...
just remove the whammy bar, period.
Grillmeister Baconator The only guy I ever thought uses it tastefully is David Gilmour. I took mine off my strat years ago. They are such a waste of space.
The bus b'ys are far from students. They are all great players as well.
These kids aren't listening to Mark at all. Especially the second guy with his whamalamadingdong bar!
Dudes, when Mark gives you an instruction you stop what you are doing and do what he tells you, or next time he won't give you any instruction thinking you are too dense to learn.
Why even take a masterclass with Mark Knopfler if you are so full of yourselves?... lol
I'm not a musician, but I think the whammy bar is stupid. It might be good for an occasional trick, but overall it's a tricksy gimmicky dumb thing.
Jazz player