260 Mile Trip in a Renault Zoe 41kwh
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- 260 Mile Trip in a Renault Zoe 41kwh
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I managed my 360 mile round trip last Friday to Devon in horrible weather, rain and five or six degrees. I dialled back the speed and got about 170 miles range. Stopped an hour each way at 22 kw chargers, thanks Exeter Sainsbury's. Pleased your Zoe is proving a good purchase. Off to Brighton today, 120 miles round trip and will probably have sixty miles range left when I get home. Keep up the excellent videos.
My next ev will be the Zoë.
Thank-you Ian. You're making it increasingly difficult to decide between the Zöe and a Leaf for our next car! ;-)
lol
Un magnifico video y una buena autonomia
Great video Ian! Always fun to watch when you cut it close, and boy those roads, seems like the road tax did reach there yet! There seems to be alot chargers on free vend theses days is this the new norm? Also did Amy stylize your side mirrors? Cheers!
Ian, the Ecotricity chargers do not seem to display output current when charging from AC for some reason, noticed this when I used a AC connector once when all the CCS chargers were not working and so I used the AC connector on the i3 but the i3 is limited to only 11kwh I believe on type 2. Still it got me a few miles while we had a short food break etc.
The Zoe 2 will be revealed in early 2019 at Frankfort, it will have an impressive 600 km range. But I am waiting to see Dacia's EV in 2022, they should use the same engine as Renault but will be more affordable. I think in 2022 Dacia and Renault will use the new Solid State Batteries, theoretically they can recharge at 80% in one minute and will have more density. Also the price of a battery is dropping of 20% per year, currently it cost around 220 euros per kW (and 1000 euros per kW in 2010) so 41kw*220 = 9000 euros for the price of the battery in the Zoe and it should cost only 7200 euros in 2019 and 5760 in 2020 (in 2020 we should have the first Solid State Batteries in cars).
Solid state will be awesome, I am just waiting for the 500 miler car and then the 1000 miler (and more?!), a bit like computer storage...can get 256gb on a micro SD currently for hardly any money.
Yes this is why we can now get a 500 Gb SSD affordable that doesn't require to pair it with an HDD, even in a small office PC we can get a 250 Gb without HDD and keep the price low.
You can either increase the range by 20 % per year for the same price or keep the same range and decrease the price by 20 % (not the total price, but the ~10k of the batteries, that is still a lot of money saved) or keep the same price but improve the design, interior, accessories, size of the car. Or like the Zoe 2 you can wait multiple years and do both increasing the range and the design, size and design at the same time for the same price.
For me EV will start to become popular in 2022 with the Dacia EVs, they are expected under 15k euros (I imagine them with 400 km range for the base model) so at the price of the Clio which is the most sold car in France but with almost nothing to pay to travel and maintain it. Also the Clio with automatic gear shift cost more while the EVs will cost the price of the manual version (because there is just one speed) and at the same time the driving license on an automatic car will become popular (cost less, much easier to get) so there will be the only new cars to buy for new drivers.
In 2025 this should be the date of the transition because new EV cars should be at the same price as new gasoline cars but at this time gasoline's price will increase a lot, in France the price gets higher by 10 cents per year per liter so there will be absolutely no point of choosing gasoline at more than 2 euros per liter (and one year before in 2024 they will be banned from big cities like Paris). And of course in 2025 the recharge rate and recharge stations will have progressed a lot. I know that's a lot of numbers in my posts, but the numbers are the things that matters to adopt them, so I think 2025 will be the year when ICE cars will die, this is only 7 years from today.
My next car will be Dacia EV, I hope in 2022. Now I have a Dacia Sandero, simple, but very good and reliable.
Renault is doing a good job.
That was a good trip, though youdo take some risks with range that my wife wouldn’t be happy with!
Wow Ian, even with your new Zoe, you’re much braver than me with my Leaf! I get nervous right along with you the way you sometimes get your range down to hardly anything. Even though you don’t have your Leaf anymore, I still enjoy your videos...looking forward to the next one.
That unadopted road is in cotmanhay , Ilkeston. Just round the corner from me.
I believe if the road is unamed this happens a lot with new builds and I saw what appears to be new built house's then it is the responsibility of the owners of the house's to keep the road up together. No guessing that they are not doing this as it is prohibitively expensive. Always check who is responsible for the road on a new build street before you buy .
I wish Renault starts selling this car in South Africa.
Lead times on a Zoe is October November time at my local dealership. The top of the range Zoe costs as much as the new Leaf. Does not have pro pilot or one pedal driving. While rapid gate is an issue even when throttled back the leaf charges at 22 killowatt which is what the stock Zoe charges at on maximum charge. Things to think about. I did find the Zoe seats more comfortable than my Techna leaf seats 30 killowatt version. The Zoe was a nice drive as well good turning circle great for town driving. I like the space in the leaf. For me the Zoe needs to be cheaper .
I was told September/October for my Zoe (I ordered it today).
On another note the destination unreachable message appears when I will make it with thirty miles to spare, seems to base it on someone driving faster than I do.
Amazing that even the people making the charging station don't know the difference between kW and kWh.
Hi Ian. Great video. What model Zoe is this please? What’s it’s maximum charging speed?
Quick charge (no longer made). 41kwh. Charges at up to 43kw
It's not the worst road I've seen :) Golf is enough to use it, no need to get a Range Rover
If the charger shows AC and DC select its on free vend. If it shows scan phone it isn’t
Thanks Craig.
pot holes are a mess. but that has to be the worst. cant the government use some of that £32 billion a year VED duty ?
I have just discovered that to gain mileage when going down a hill and the regen is too strong and slowing the car down too much, I can select neutral till I need to slow down again. It is probably illegal to ride in neutral and I assume in the Zoe it just disconnects the motor electrically. Any kind comments would be welcome.
I don't think it's been illegal (at least it doesn't seem to be for manual ICE cars from the Highway Code wording), it's just discouraged because there's "less control" (again at least in ICE cars, not sure whether the same applies in electric motor cars)
I was in Gloucester recently, I was in Bristol, is that in Gloucester? Anyway it was wet, very wet.
I am often in Gloucester as its fairly local to me 😄
6:28 "the worst road in the world" you should visit the city of Cernauti in Ukraine, i bet u are going to change your mind.
Ha ha
The Most Holly of Roads xD
On my third Leaf 2x 24kwh/1x Leaf 30Kwh Tomorrow I collect my Zoe 40 110
Good to see you're still enjoying your Zoe. Just FYI you should remove the "good customer service" bit about Ben Powell from Renault Gloucester. I also got a Zoe after reading about your deal, delivered in March - it's been back at the dealership for most of the time since and Ben doesn't speak to me, hasn't in well over a month. I received appalling customer service from the dealership which is a great shame as I loved the car when it worked.
They are currently refusing my vehicle rejection, so not great assurance if something does go wrong with yours!
Good luck and appreciated the helpful videos, while relavent ;)
aerop1989 interesting to hear of this, polar opposite of my experience, can you send me full details to ruralleafowner@gmail.com if you want; would like to pursue this one.
Would you recommend this as a first car? I am rocking one as my 1st 😁
Absolutely!
Hi Ian
I'm a bit of a ludite and don't know how to join forums (which is what Gloucester Renault suggest I do to contact you!) but I'm wanting to pick your brains about getting a second hand Zoe - would you be able to help me? If so, how should I best contact you?
Fire away! What do you need to know :)
I'm wanting to buy a red or blue second hand zoe - either dynamique or signature. I'm struggling to find one on eBay or auto trader and prefer private sales anyway. Do you have any other suggestions where I could look (or know anyone)? I really want the new model with the much better range but it looks like I'll need to wait a year or two till they start coming onto the second hand market. Do you think the earlier models will then plummet in value?
I think you will have to wait yes, as the demand is not meeting supply currently, and wait lists are 9 months now. Older models are holding their value due to this as well!
It's a bit cumbersome, but you can effectively calculate what is the charging rate by taking the amount of electricity put in your car, divided by the time it has charged and times 60 for an hour
Example : @4:56 you gained 16.3kW in 26min.
16.3/26 = 0.63
0.63x60 = 37.8
So the car charge at an average of 37.8Kw for the all session
Note that, this number is not 100% accurate because the display on the charger doesn't update often enough, so you should take the numbers right at the moment when a minute pass to be the most accurate. Also, this number doesn't take into account the charging loss, Zoe being at around 89% percent efficiency I think
Take a look at that : pushevs.com/2016/12/17/renault-zoe-charging-time-efficiency/
rectification : This article I linked may be completely incorrect.
I'll update if I find someone who correctly measured Zoe on-board charger efficiency
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Look look look Nissan this is how you keep a 40kw battery cool
If only Renault still sold in the US...
Would be good!