I can strongly suggest the Garritan CFX Piano VST it’s the best sampled piano i’ve ever heard, doesn’t sound like other libraries which mostly have a mechanical feel to them however it takes up a lot of space on your HDD/SSD which is the only complaint i have. The Grandeur is not a big VST and still does a decent enough job and it’s playable as well. The Garritan CFX is also quite playable imo. Pianoteq 8 is another recommendation and i think you would love it because it uses modelling and sounds realistic for not being sampled
Thanks for the tips! I've always been afraid to load up Garritan. I've got my external hard drives stuffed with Komplete Ultimate and various Spitfire orchestral libraries and I've just been unsure of whether it's worth buying the software and ANOTHER SSD.
If a piano plugin doesn’t sound great, the feel doesn’t mean much. I find inspiration in glorious sounding pianos rather than good feeling pianos to play.
I don't think its actually possible to do a comparison because of the settings and wild variation that creates when sevraul of these could sound identical to each other if set to do so. Some just sound better because they have built in reverb.
They can sound similar, but not similar enough if you are going for a particular tone, for example if you are trying to cut the highs of a bright piano sample library to get the sound of let's say NOIRE, you won't get that, at least not identical for sure. What I mean is that for example if you want a soft/dark piano sound, your best bet is to start with a soft/dark piano sample library to begin with (like NOIRE, probably the felt library), and than you can cut even more highs if you prefer. Also, a piano is a piano, but all pianos differ in their details, for example the attack of the piano is one of the most important thing that defines that particular piano's sound/timbre. But I agree with you that it's not really possible to compare them in the apples VS oranges, because if we look (listen) to them closely then we would see (hear) that they are not just fruit VS fruit, but apple VS orange, so to say :) Even if we turn all of the reverbs and internal processing stuff inside the VST plugins, they would sound most likely really different, especially if your ear got used to different piano sounds (for example if you are pianist, you know that for sure, to me guitar tones sounds pretty different, but I'm not a guitarist so I can't really tell details that might be considered as minor detail but still important detail in terms of timbre, on the other hand if I hear different piano sample libraries (or real piano recordings), I can hear minor details easier because I play the piano for almost 3 decades long, and you can't help but hear this stuff after this long time. I'm pretty sure the exact same thing happens when you are a guitarist (using different amps for different timbres).
@@amusicians2cents Very interesting, I have Reason 12 and I use the same NNXT piano grand piano patch from over 15 years ago in nearly all of My music, its become part of My sound (The particular sounds a producer gets best at using making them sound unique) Go and take a listen to My video with the Grand piano in the thumbnail it's only short but you will hear just how effective it sounds and most people would not be able to tell it's not a real piano. I have tested it multiple times with people who own and play real piano them selfs and the first thing they ask is what university did I go to, to be able to play piano like this. They are usually suprised when I tell them I didn't play it at all I compose it by drawing the midi notes on a digital piano sequencer. The older ones dont understand what a DAW is so I have to explain it so they understand. I even visited a piano shop and the guy asked that same question and He was actually offended and insulted by the fact that I could compose and create realistic piano music. He was insulted because I He felt like He was fooled, He put his arm behind Me and rudely and abruptly made Me get out of his shop "Right theres nothing here for you so off you go" He said. Had never seen anything like it back then in 2008 but I later learned that there is a class and only the rich or wealthy are supposed to play or compose piano.
I love the Keyscape samples. They are next level. When you consider you get 36 astonishing pianos/keyboards for about $11 each, it is a bargain. But hey, if you love the Arturia and it is cheaper (full price $249 but they have sales all the time), then that is a win too. We live in a pretty amazing time.
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Noire is amazing. I still think my keyscape is the Goat.
I've been using the UVI Model D grand piano for the most part. The price was right for what I was looking for.
I can strongly suggest the Garritan CFX Piano VST it’s the best sampled piano i’ve ever heard, doesn’t sound like other libraries which mostly have a mechanical feel to them however it takes up a lot of space on your HDD/SSD which is the only complaint i have. The Grandeur is not a big VST and still does a decent enough job and it’s playable as well. The Garritan CFX is also quite playable imo. Pianoteq 8 is another recommendation and i think you would love it because it uses modelling and sounds realistic for not being sampled
Thanks for the tips! I've always been afraid to load up Garritan. I've got my external hard drives stuffed with Komplete Ultimate and various Spitfire orchestral libraries and I've just been unsure of whether it's worth buying the software and ANOTHER SSD.
If a piano plugin doesn’t sound great, the feel doesn’t mean much. I find inspiration in glorious sounding pianos rather than good feeling pianos to play.
I feel the opposite. If a piano isn’t responsive and feel good, my performance suffers and I can’t get a good take
How did you manage to not do Pianoteq?
The arturia american grand sounds like 10 dollar casio keyboard
I like Pianoteq, that is physically modelled.
I don't think its actually possible to do a comparison because of the settings and wild variation that creates when sevraul of these could sound identical to each other if set to do so. Some just sound better because they have built in reverb.
They can sound similar, but not similar enough if you are going for a particular tone, for example if you are trying to cut the highs of a bright piano sample library to get the sound of let's say NOIRE, you won't get that, at least not identical for sure. What I mean is that for example if you want a soft/dark piano sound, your best bet is to start with a soft/dark piano sample library to begin with (like NOIRE, probably the felt library), and than you can cut even more highs if you prefer. Also, a piano is a piano, but all pianos differ in their details, for example the attack of the piano is one of the most important thing that defines that particular piano's sound/timbre. But I agree with you that it's not really possible to compare them in the apples VS oranges, because if we look (listen) to them closely then we would see (hear) that they are not just fruit VS fruit, but apple VS orange, so to say :) Even if we turn all of the reverbs and internal processing stuff inside the VST plugins, they would sound most likely really different, especially if your ear got used to different piano sounds (for example if you are pianist, you know that for sure, to me guitar tones sounds pretty different, but I'm not a guitarist so I can't really tell details that might be considered as minor detail but still important detail in terms of timbre, on the other hand if I hear different piano sample libraries (or real piano recordings), I can hear minor details easier because I play the piano for almost 3 decades long, and you can't help but hear this stuff after this long time. I'm pretty sure the exact same thing happens when you are a guitarist (using different amps for different timbres).
@@amusicians2cents Very interesting, I have Reason 12 and I use the same NNXT piano grand piano patch from over 15 years ago in nearly all of My music, its become part of My sound (The particular sounds a producer gets best at using making them sound unique) Go and take a listen to My video with the Grand piano in the thumbnail it's only short but you will hear just how effective it sounds and most people would not be able to tell it's not a real piano. I have tested it multiple times with people who own and play real piano them selfs and the first thing they ask is what university did I go to, to be able to play piano like this. They are usually suprised when I tell them I didn't play it at all I compose it by drawing the midi notes on a digital piano sequencer. The older ones dont understand what a DAW is so I have to explain it so they understand. I even visited a piano shop and the guy asked that same question and He was actually offended and insulted by the fact that I could compose and create realistic piano music. He was insulted because I He felt like He was fooled, He put his arm behind Me and rudely and abruptly made Me get out of his shop "Right theres nothing here for you so off you go" He said. Had never seen anything like it back then in 2008 but I later learned that there is a class and only the rich or wealthy are supposed to play or compose piano.
@@amusicians2cents Listen to the 3 minute video not the first one with the Grand piano thumbnail.
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I don't think these really compare to what you get with Keyscape. Great video though
Fair enough, but they're like a quarter of the price. I think Arturia can get you pretty close.
I love the Keyscape samples. They are next level. When you consider you get 36 astonishing pianos/keyboards for about $11 each, it is a bargain. But hey, if you love the Arturia and it is cheaper (full price $249 but they have sales all the time), then that is a win too. We live in a pretty amazing time.
You can't do a serious comparison with a room take. Please make a DI and a montage next time.