Ludendorff's Last Swing I THE GREAT WAR Week 209
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- All of Germany's recent offensives have been building up to Operation Hagen: An offensive in Flanders that was to divide the Allies and drive the British off the continent. But this week German High Command realizes that they don't have the manpower left to even start the offensive.
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Stone, Norman. World War One. A Short History, Penguin, 2008.
Keegan, John. The First World War, Vintage, 2000.
Hastings, Max. Catastrophe 1914. Europe Goes To War, Knopf, 2013.
Hirschfeld, Gerhard. Enzyklopädie Erster Weltkrieg, Schöningh Paderborn, 2004
Michalka, Wolfgang. Der Erste Weltkrieg. Wirkung, Wahrnehmung, Analyse, Seehamer Verlag GmbH, 2000
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I'm not sure what I'm going to do when this series is over.
Ten Minute History stop slacking and getting on with the English history series perhaps? 🤔
Ten Minute History wait for WWII to start
new channel the Great Interbellum
Lex Whyte but that is like 21 years 😭
We dont know when this war is going to end so i guess we lots of time left.
I've gone through 2 girlfriends 2 homes and 3 cars since this war centennial started... and the war is still going. That is what truly puts this brutal extended conflict into perspective for me. This is truly a Great War of infinite complexity. Thank you for creating this channel and going through it week by week. It's been a very informative 4 years.
You are one BAAD driver.
Ludendorff: I've wasted the lives of my troops 5 times, you think I care if they get slaughtered a 6th time?
"Lost a million in our very first attack. Don't you worry cause you know we'll get them back" (Clean, clean, The Buggles, 1980)
Well, even Haig, Falkenhayn, von Hötzendorf, Cardorna and some French thought the same in their offensives. Only he was smart enough to call the offensive off.
@@arjan6111994 At least one of those guys (Haig) learned the lesson. Ludendorff, somehow, ended up *unlearning* it.
Who? I know Quartermaster General Erich Ludendorff, but I've no idea who you're talking about.
@@901Sherman Frankly, by this time of the war Ludendorff was far different from the tactical mastermind he was earlier. It wasn’t bad tactics like the rest, but just that by this point he was resembling his protege in the sequel (Hitler) a lot. He barely got an hour of sleep, and was fairly mad.
So this is where everything goes downhill for the Central Powers. It’s been 209 weeks and even though we all know how this would end, it still felt like the course of the battle could go any way, until now.
GG Jerry!
This show would be very exciting if we didn't already know how it is going to end. (Still a great show!)
"Ludendorff? More like LudenDORK! Am I right?"
-Douglas Haig
Onyx1916 That would be a very hypocritical statement by Haig judging by the Somme
"Are you high?!"
-Ferdinand Foch
Onyx1916 was that for haig or me?
"Well his resignation and suicide should help"
Capt. blackadder, Ypres, 1917
"I was talking to Ludendick over there."
-Ferdinand Foch
Soo does this time the war would be REALLY OVER by Christmas
NAh, 2 or 3 years give or take. All heil the keiserreigh!
Which Christmas?
Ebrohim Mukti Mahathi
It might
November 11th, 2018
Are you sure? We said the same in 1914 to 1917. But every time there was no decisive breakthrough.
"Ludendorff cancels his plans" well that was bit anti-climatic
"The action by the Marne was mainly a French battle"
So the 2 battles of the Marne were mainly French battles, where the French did the majority of the fighting. The first saved the allies from an early defeat, the second was the first major victory of a serie that would end the war
It highlights even more the huge French war effort to win the war, besides Verdun, the Somme, Ypres, Champagne and other battles
@@iteachyou1575
By far*
IVE DONE IT, IVE FINALLY CAUGHT UP! Thanks for making such a great show, keep up the great work
Wow, having to catch up this far must have taken a while! Welcome to the front line!
bignickthegreat welcome to the front!
Cool beans!
Thanks everyone! It certainly took a while thats for sure
I find that I keep catching up, then stop watching for half a year only to have to catch up again. I've been doing that since 2016.
I have a great uncle Paul Burbey that died attacking the mill and wall at Chezelle farm during the drive to Fismes. Paul was in Company M of the 127 regiment of the 32nd division. He was shot, called out his mother Josephine's name and died. Being that national guard units were built up from local cities. I can't imagine the effect back at home after a fierce battle when suddenly so many families got the bad news about a loved one. Especially after the first engagement when the unit was still filled with local soldiers and not diluted by replacements
I know it’s beyond the scope of this channel but I sincerely hope Indy and the crew go into the Russian Civil War especially the Allied interventions of which so little is widely known, the Freikorps, invasion of Poland, formation of new European nations, political arm twisting that led to the Versailles Treaty. There’s just so much to work with!
Cgriff512 Indy actually has made a few videos about the Russian Civil War in 1919 and 1920.
I'd love a series about the civil war/ war of independence in Turkey
Cgriff512 the Iolaire disaster on new years day is another event which needs to be covered. Not the most world changing event but still a little known, large loss of life
Also this week Teddy Roosevelt Lost his youngest son Quinten in the war.
Matthew Arenson - Yes, Teddy wanted us n this war in 1914...
Allen Kneale He was devastated by the news.
At the end Ludenddorf stopped tormenting himself, as the German command invented the "stab-in-the-back" myth
Yeah thanks to reddit, I'm now aware of this "stab in the back" and have become less of an ignorant as to the effects of Versailles on WWII.
Could someone explain to me this "stab-in-the-back" myth?
Jose Miguel Caballero restrepo Blame everything to a Jewish conspiracy behind the lines, in a nutshell
Jonathan Williams and Romania , Bulgaria and Hungary
Also socialist/communist
Hey Indy and gang! It's your Patreon supporter of the week here! Thanks a lot for the shout out! And once again, thank you for the amazing work you all have put into this amazing series! It's just amazing, and somewhat mind numbing, how this war is almost over, and yet there stilled seemed to be no end in sight in 1918.
Patrick3751 😖 Too ‘amazing’ by far!
After watching all of the episodes , after four years of fighting I still cannot believe the huge number of death's and casualties. And sometimes for the same territory over and over again. Madness simply Madness.
Austria-Hungary will make a crushing victory and take over Europe with Conrad in command
Indiana Jones ............. XD XD XD
Remember last week: For Conrad Von Hotzendorf, the war is over!
Bommel Mapping All jokes aside, Bulgaria was one of the most successful (militarily) nations of The Great War
Indiana Jones is your name referring to Indy?
Just wait for the amazing comeback of the Ottoman Empire
How often do you get to use the phrase "spearheaded by Americans and Senegalese"?
@@stevekaczynski3793 That wasn't even related to the question OP asked. Lol
@IndianaNeidell what episodes made you feel very emotional? I remember seeing an episode where by the end of the video you nearly burst out in tears.
200th week of the war i think
Love that Kukri on you desk, indie!
not to be that guy but it is called a kukri
Khukuri
I think he mentioned it in one of the Out Of The Trenches episodes.
This episode definitely felt like the climax of the show/war, after this it seems the fundamentals just fall against Germany. You guys do such a great job at making the show dramatic while informative, well done!
I been with this series since 1915. Things have certainly changed, back then Joffre and Cadorna were the main allied commanders. Italy had just failed for a seventh time on the Isonzo and Loos and Champaign had just ended (spoiler alert: they failed too).Damn, the allies really turned things around. Back then I was sure the central powers had it in the bag.
Anyway, glad to see the Americans are finally making a dent, only took us 4 years.
Greetings from Ohio, and keep up the great work. I have no idea what I’ll do when this is over.
Interesting that the tide of the war (to the German generals anyway) changed in literally 3 days. Although I'd say it changed even a bit before that.
I think the momentum of the spring offensive and all the seemingly positive news coming in, probably blinded them to how weak their homefront situation made them and also the weakness of their allies.
Not only in those regards but also on the Western front itself, the spring offensives were hiding the deeper problems with the German situation. The offensives hadn't made any meaningful gains other than a few kilometres of ground - which was quite impressive but didn't have a long-lasting positive effect.
We should also be very wary of any such statement by German generals during and after the war. That stuff is full of myth-making, deliberate obfuscation, and "mis-remembering" for political purposes.
The Ludendorff offensive was just like the Ardenne offensive in 1944. These two offensives were the last German offensives on the Western front in both world wars!
I agree, but I think the Ludendorff offensives had at least some chance of succeeding. Ardennes Offensive was doomed to fail; Germany had no realistic hope of winning the war by December 1944.
DeathOnSernpidal Agreed. The only difference between the German offensives of 1918 and 1944 was that the Germans in 1944 were already fighting on two fronts with over 80% of German casualties on the Eastern front. Had Hitler not invaded Russia, it's highly likely that the Germans would have decimated the Allied armies at the Ardennes!
I think it's incredible that Germany was even able to start a major offensive by December 1944. After so many losses and so many defeats.
DeathOnSernpidal During the Battle of the Bulge, the Waffen SS massacred over 80 American prisoners in Malmedy. I wonder if there were any similar cold-blooded atrocities during Ludendorff's offensive?
It's debatable that the Operation Nordwind was the last German offensive on the Western Front in 1944.
This side of the conflict is often overlooked. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Nordwind
The most fearsome monster in all of history is a man.
No it is a crocodile with a flamethrower with a chain saw bayonet
Konrad dismissed last week, Central Powers retreat this week. Coincidence?
I'm finally caught up after finishing the entire chronological playlist. I actually started watching somewhere in 2017 but I spent the past months catching up. And now I'm here.
I just found your series, amazing work. I wish I'd had found this at the centennial beginning of the war.
On July 30th my Great-grandfather, Ira Pittman, 151st machine gun battalion (Georgia), 42nd Rainbow Division, was wounded and pulled to safety by a fellow comrade.
May we never forget the bravery of these men in what I fear is fast becoming a forgotten war.
Thank you all so much for your hard work. This is my all time favorite youtube channel. I will be sad with this series reaches it’s conclusion and there is no more to watch and learn about. I am wondering, will you all consider moving onto ww2? Or will it really be the end? I would love if the whole team covered ww2 just like you have dine with ww1.
Was about to close TH-cam, oh The Great War uploads I'm staying!
Hi Guys! Just wondering will you be discussing and addressing the 'Stabbed In The Back' myth (one of the many myths Hitler used to gain power) and how it was created when the armastice & eventual unconditional surrender roles around? Think it would be cool to get TGW teams perspectives :) cheers!
My favorite part of the war is hearing about the Czechoslovak Legion just kicking around in Siberia.
I really love OOT, except for the Water Temple.
Nice
They did change that temple for better gameplay.
No Internet guides in the 90s though ;-)
Majora's Mask was better. Even if it had a Water Temple.
Why do you think it was better?
Please cover the polish-soviet war once the great war ends! I'll be lost without weekly Indy otherwise 😓
Vincintius DeProvence there doing series like this but ww2 starting in September.
Person74 polish soviet war was in 1920
Mr Awesome97 well he kinda said he just wanted the weekly stuff idk.
Here you go: th-cam.com/video/Equ7ua9b3Jo/w-d-xo.html
Honestly, I think Germany had the best army in this War, they fought against two superpowers for four years, and never gave away, and apparently they didn't collapse immediately when the Americans arrived.
Germnany had distinct advantages though. They were a central position in middle of European continent with best railway transportstion lines. So their communication and transportation system logistics etc were very efficient. They could move one unit as reinforcment to another front much more easily. Their industrial output when concentrated on armament industry was fearsome. And to get on thispoint in 1918 they literally starved their civilian population. All for nothing.
no superpowers existed back then.
May the TH-cam algorithm gods get this channel to 1 million before November
After the war could you do detailed analyses of some of the critical decisions of the war, such as unrestricted submarine warfare, the billion battles of the isonzo river, and the sort. Love the show, sad to see it coming to an end.
You know you're a regular when you say "I'm Indy Neidell, welcome to the great war" with him every single time.
Please do this on WW2. I have learned so much just by your videos . I thought I knew more than I did. How wrong I was.
Hi Indie and Crew, so nice to have the meet at Bovington!
Please do a Special on Merchant Shipping ( incl. resurgence of Sailing Ships) and Ownership and insurance of merchant ships in general during The Great War. I just read that the barque 'Iverna''s Scottish owners sold her to A/S Seilskip Iverna (Arne Larsen), Bergen, Norway and then re-sold three times after that. How was it possible that merchant ships could be bought and sold like this during wartime, especially from Britain to Norway?
I found this channel about 6 months ago. I have just now finally caught up to the weekly videos. Now there is time for some of the special videos. You guys create great, entertaining, and informative videos. What is to come when The Great War has been completed?
I've been off all month, and the war still hasn't ended! This war's gonna last into the '20s ain't it!
'Dysentery in the Caucasus' nasty!
Can’t believe this was 4 years ago
5:21Did the Germans take 186,000 casualties, as written, or 168,000, as Indy said? Thanks again for a great video!
"Executed" is a really bad mispronunciation of "brutally murdered by howling savages".
Question for OotT: what happened to old trenches after a successful advance? Obviously they would not be actively used, but would they still be maintained in case of a counterattack? Or would they be left to decay, or even intentionally demolished to help logistics or something? Love the show!
At what point during the 20th Century did the warring nations return to their pre-war populations? A country can’t lose a few thousand young men every week (in some cases, in one day) over the course of four years without serious, long-term, domestic trouble. Then again...that’s just what happened.
Depends on the nation. The United States population surpassed pre-joining-the-war level in 1919. Germany did not recover until 1936.
Look up the website Populstat for each nation.
Russia meanwhile was losing millions more people in a civil war. Not helped later by famines and purges.
Nate Kaufman Not only that, but the new states of Austria, Hungary, Czechoslovakia, Yugoslavia, Finland, Latvia, Estonia, Lithuania, Syria, Lebanon, Iraq, Saudi Arabia and regions given to France, Benelux, Denmark, Romania, Italy, Greece, Bulgaria and Turkey.
Arif HB When was German territory given to Greece, Italy, Romania, Bulgaria, Finland, Yugoslavia, Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, Austria, Hungary, Syria, Lebanon, Iraq, Turkey, or Saudi Arabia?
Nate Kaufman Talking about the territorial changes.
All the talk of WWII next... Keeping up with the 100 years ago today gig, would like to see the Russian Civil War as well as the other smallish wars that really dont get taught about.
Best channel on you tube along with forgotten weapons hands down
Just another breathtaking episode...
Does this mean that the war will be over by Christmas?
The Guy and the true germany will be over in a couple of days
A small note about Mick Mannock. Mannock was terrified at the idea of being trapped in a burning plane so he always had a pistol with him on flights so that he could shoot himself if his plane would ever catch fire.
it is coming to an end
Just caught up last week! Been waiting for this video!
To Indy and crew:
Greetings from Rhode Island, I was curious if any of you read much fiction specifically alternate history and the author Harry Turtledove. If you haven't read his stories I recommend his "Timeline 191" or "Southern Victory" series especially the "Great War" trilogy within it. The United States and an independent Confederacy are involved on opposing sides of WW1 right at the outbreak of hostilities. Turtledove tends to do his research and graphically portrays the horror of "modern" war in his writing.
Keep up the great work!
This is a great way to start my birthday thanks.
A+
But please continue the serie to cover WWI aftermath: Versailles and sister treaties, subsequent wars. Many misconceptions subside that distort the understanding of many contemporary issues.
Dear Indy, Flo and team: first of all, thank you for your great work, everything from research to delivery is flawless. I may have missed it, but have you already made a special about WWI in film? You have your known masterpieces such as La Grande Illusion by Jean Renoir or Paths of Glory by Stanley Kubrick. I would also recommend two Italian films, La Grande Guerra (The Great War) by Mario Monicelli and Uomini Contro (Many Wars Ago) by Francesco Rosi. The former is regarded as one of the best Italian films of all time and despite its comedic tone it effectively depicts some of the tactics employed by the Compagnie della morte, which later became the Arditi. The latter is definitely more dramatic and is known for a sequence about the disastrous use of Farina body armour during an assault. I admit to know nothing about films produced during or immediately after the war ... maybe you can fill that gap?
we still wait for a ludendorff special on who did what! He is such an interesting personality! especially the post war years
The tides have turned many times in this war, this time however, this time it seems the tide turns for the last time
Question for Out of the Trenches:
Hey Indy, I’m a collector of Militaria from both World Wars. I recently acquired a U.S. 28 Infantry Division Grouping (in time for the anniversary of Chateau Thierry). In the grouping were several newspapers that the vet kept. An article of note was a report that Italian and French troops fought over control of a bridge in mid 1919. I know this is a bit ahead of where the show is now, but were there any cases of Allied troops or even Central troops fighting their allies openly in combat other than in cases of friendly fire?
Make a video about Momčilo Gavric, the youngest soldier in the WW1, who was accepted into his unit at the age of seven, and promoted to the rank of corporal at the age of eight.
Love the show! Keep up the awesome work Indy and crew!
I have a question for Out of the Trenches.
Were the colonial soldiers who were taken prisoner treated differently than their "motherland" counterparts by either side?
Are you guys doing the treaty negotiations to or just up until the surrender?
Person74 I'd imagine November 11th will be the last weekly episode, but with specials and followups pretty regularly after that covering the immediate fallout from the war
2018/1918, WW1 ends with it's 100th anniversary.
2019/1939, WW2 begins on it's 80th anniversary.
ARE WE GOING TO SEE A VIDEO SERIES THEN, INDY?
New Show Indy?
So i am catching up on the series, love it! Is there a story behind the various caltrops on the desk?
Insane tragedy.
Why don't you guys ever put links in the description for your the thumbnails. Some of them are absolutely astonishing would love to have them.
we license the pictures from a professional newspaper archive. Can't make them available to the public, sorry.
The Great War don't say that near the bolsheviks or you will end like nicolas my dude
Czech Legion-5000 miles of intestinal fortitude and bravery!!! Represent!!!
TBH, I do not know how they sustained this, economically, for over four years, at this point in history. Going off of everything I thought I knew about war, I would've expected peace talks mid-1915 after prolonged stalemate.
The immense casualty numbers are just par for the course that's all sandtrap.
Gotta love the great War Show!
After 209 episodes there's really no need to give Ludendorff his entire name and title practically every time you mention him.
The Spring Offensive has finally strung out.
So Mick, have you ever been in a Turkish prison?
Do you like gladiator movies??
The losses are just mind blowing
Repeatedly I'm hearing this or that offensive decided on/planned/launched by Ludendorff, who was quartermaster general. Before 1916, if memory serves, the chief of the German general staff (e.g., von Moltke the Elder, von Schlieffen, von Moltke the younger, and von Falkenhayn), called the shots. So, what's with Hindenburg letting the quartermaster general do his job?
Can't believe Germany has held against so many powerful enemies alone for so long on the western front.
Ludendorff- cruisin' for a bruisin' but he does not know it yet!
The Entente might win then...
NotJustinY. Unfortunately
I wonder what the fate of the Hohenzollerns will be... I hope not the same one as the Tsar...
NotJustinY. With 250,000 Well trained American soldiers arriving per month. YOUR DAMN RIGHT!!
July 26th 1918 my grandpa's uncle dies in Finnish prison camp. Probably to influenza. Probably deserved fate to a rebel. Yet more Finns died after the war than during the war,making releations in FInland bitter for decades.
Could you talk about the role crime played in WWI? Was theft or other crimes common in the armies, and if so, how was it dealt with? Also, I heard that the Chinese Triads were actually active in fighting (on both sides) during the Sino-Japanese War. Did anything similar happen in WWI?
5:10 - notice how some of the soldiers are obscuring their faces from the camera? I thought it was against the sunshine but the shadows are casting from the opposite direction.
Aye, I figured as much - but it still seemed unusual, both at their camera-savvy and having the wherewithal to put up that kind of front (while some of the others look utterly spent)
The line cannot hold!!- Ludendorff
I have an question: How frequently was bayonets used in the war? Also how common were trench clubs used and how rare were they? What webbings did different nations used throughout the entire war? Thanks. -Sean P.S. - I like the show and after it's over you should do WWII.
2:51 That voice crack.
You forgot to mention, that the worlds first aircraftcarrier attack, happend at the 22nd, at the german zeppelinbase near Toender
*And the trench clubs part, I ment, how rare were they and how common were they used.
I’m 25 minuets late, I’m so sorry.
5,000 Subscribers without a video we'll let it go THIS time... 😜😂
At 5:16 indy says 168 000 German casualties but on screen it says 186 000 German casualties sooo... WHAT IS CORRECT?!
Hey Indy, are you planning a Special Episode of the Pancho Villa Expedition? Or could you give a brief overview in OOTT?
Oh, if I was in German High Command I would either evacuate that salient before Amiens or reinforce it immediately. Even from his map I can see it is overexended and vulnerable from three sides. Nothing will happen on that sector. Right ? RIIIIIGHT.
See you in 2039?
more like 2033
September 2019, let us hope ? Like 80 years from now ?
(Though I may skip a few videos between May and June 2020 then, too soon mate, too soon...)
This November 11th ill be more saddened about the end of the show than Remembrance Day. :(
Kevin 😖 Do not, ever, demote the significance of Remembrance Day. Nothing can ever reduce the horrors that it commemorates. Nothing! Nothing! It distresses me that here in 🇬🇧 our national day of mourning seldom occurs on November 11th, but on the nearest Sunday. Is it too much to ask that one specific date in the year is set aside for sombre reflection on human madness? I think not!
This week. This is the week the war was lost and won.
Nice video. Great job.
Hey Indie I love your show all of you are AWESOME but answer this.If the Germans offered to not take any western territory or colonies from the Allies. Would that get them to end the War? And if the regular civilians heard it would it help. I mean wives would get back missing husbands, Mothers their sons, Men can finally leave the trenches or POW camps. And people won't have to suffer anymore but instead rebuild.
One began to see at this point Ludendorff began to lose his marbles. While he was still insisting , exhausting , agitationg in Total War or Total Victory concepts , all conditions began to turn against Central Powers irreversibly. It is like trying to stem a burstling dam. He could not stop it nor any other Central Powers , finished as they were. Can you imagine how this effected pschology of a man like Ludendorff who put willpower above anything else and exhausting manhood of Germany like pokerchips in a bad Las Vegas night ? Both his and other German militarists world was collapsing.
I am curios as to why we don't see the same type of ptsd in ww2 soldiers that we see in ww1 soldiers? I am talking about the tremors and uncontrolled body movements that we see in ww1 soldiers that you do not see in ww2 soldiers.