No it's a steel tank so the welded area will rust at the same rate as the unwelded. thanks for the compliment and the views! hope that answers your question
I'm more interesting in the welding aspect of the video. What amperage do you run for that thin of material and what kind of wire do you use and what size filler?
a good rule of thumb is 1 amp per 0.001" of material thickness. so i want to say i was around 80-90 amps for this. i run just mild steel filler rod, and it was about .125 thick. hopefully that helps you! great questions!
How satisfied are you with the performance of the sump? I'm having one of these installed on my Fifth Avenue, but Holley recently came out with the Hydramat to serve the same purpose, although at a much higher price.
Question when all said and done did you wash the tank out before install if so how did you go about washing it? Just swish around some dish soap and water lol rinse it out let it dry
i blew it out REALLY well with the air line, and then i put a leaf blower in there and shook it all around. then yes i used dish soap and water to shake all through it. after all that i let it dry for 24 hrs and installed. i had to redo all the lines etc so it was able to air dry for about 72 hrs after the water before i put the fuel in it
@@710Garage awesome same I got a brand new tank and braided fuel lines for my Ls swap foxbody and sumped it just been slacking on installing it lol. Appreciate the information that's what I'll do
@@710Garage sbe gen lll 6.0 rings gapped for boost btr cam ls7 lifters springs trunions btr intake Bosch 550 injectors terminator x ecu harness 88m vs racing turbo. Cut at strut towers tubular kmember a arms strange 10 way Shocks upr coilovers front back fiberglass fenders bumper hood. Mini tubbed shortened 8.8 th400 new stock tank sumped with a1000 pump -10 feed -8 return. Wiring the car now plumb this fuel will be on the road hopefully by the end of spring. Should be fun car
im not sure how you would seal it afterward. never seen a sump bolted before. i mean i guess you COULD but might be more work to seal it than having it welded if you cant yourself
hopefully this video helped you decide if you need a sump and what is involved in installing one. here is a video for the engine we put together that requires this fuel system modifications th-cam.com/video/D_4uuO3-9JI/w-d-xo.html
i dont know why it wouldnt be? now that said i am not a law enforcement agent and dont know all of the laws around North America. So i would ask your local authorities. also... i have never been stopped, harassed, or had an issue with insurance and ive had pics taken for insurance etc.
@@710Garage thank you very much for a point in the right direction. Im sure i sound like a dummy. Im just starting out redoing my truck and have recently been drilled about it. I love your sump and just amazed by the results. It’s awesome. Thank you
Hey man I've got a question, I'm going from a 1984 Carbureted Engine to a 1991 TBI Engine, Both Engines are from the same kind of vehicle, The 84 Engine is from a S10 Blazer with a 2.8L and the 91 Engine is from S10 Truck with a 4.3L, I was checking out the Fuel System stuff trying to figure out what I'll need for the Swap and I noticed that the 91 Tank has an "Attached Sump" and the 84 Tank Don't.... So does that mean I need to buy another Tank with the Sump bc of where I'm swapping to a TBI or will the NonSump Tank work ??? What would you do in my position ?
the sump shouldn't change alot on a stock application. BUT i feel like rockauto may be the best source for cheap bolt on parts and be done.... sometimes trying to re engineer the wheel costs more and takes alot more time to figure out if there is a stock solution. i would try that... if that failed i would run a small walbro pump with your stock tank and giver. unless youre going to hot rod it and need a bunch more fuel.
@@710Garage I just didn't know if a TBI would need the Sump or not, Bc like I said my current Carbureted 2.8L Engine doesn't have the Sump in the Tank bc it's got a Mechanical Fuel Pump as to where the 91 Tank does have the Sump bc it's TBI and it has an Electric Fuel Pump that's in the Tank.... I just didn't know if it mattered or not if it had the Sump or not, bc I'm going to be honest with you, I don't even know what the Sump is for....
@@s10_4_life6 the sump is a spot for the pump to suck from, which is in my video the lowest point and at the back for hard accelerating. you can always run an inline electric pump like i have on my car to not swap tanks... like i said tons of ways to skin the cat.
@@s10_4_life6 not a problem. sorry it wasnt a clear cut answer but like i said lots of ways to do it... if you want to run an inline pump just make sure to filter before and after it and youll be good to go..
going both directions that close together could make some disturbance in the pickup side. and we dont want to risk an aid bubble or straining the pump to much so i chose the opposite side. now that said i suppose you could weld a divider in. or a tube to extend where the return fuel is pushed to i suppose.
@@paulsingh2579 you COULD but i would not recommend this. you want to flush the tank out before welding a tank thats had fuel prior. and welding upside down sucks... id say drop it
Summit sells a mustang tank sump now lol probably thanks to you 😅
Haha congrats for becoming a pinned comment on this video.. lol
@@710Garage it's a great honor 😂 I just sumped my 98 Z28 tank your video served as a good guide!
@@Anthony-e3s3n glad it helped you out!! thanks for watching and taking some time to comment!
Great video and great job!!!I want to ask you what about the oxidation in the tank after welding?did you anodised somehow the tank after all?
No it's a steel tank so the welded area will rust at the same rate as the unwelded.
thanks for the compliment and the views!
hope that answers your question
Nice sumps I had to do same for my new foxbody tank to make sump fit came out nice
Thanks 👍 worked out well i think. even in the car i think the lines work great and im happy.
I'm more interesting in the welding aspect of the video. What amperage do you run for that thin of material and what kind of wire do you use and what size filler?
a good rule of thumb is 1 amp per 0.001" of material thickness.
so i want to say i was around 80-90 amps for this. i run just mild steel filler rod, and it was about .125 thick.
hopefully that helps you!
great questions!
How satisfied are you with the performance of the sump? I'm having one of these installed on my Fifth Avenue, but Holley recently came out with the Hydramat to serve the same purpose, although at a much higher price.
I'm very satisfied. I would not think twice about doing it again.
@@710Garage Thanks for the reply back man! Puts my mind at ease.
Do it you won't regret it!!
Question when all said and done did you wash the tank out before install if so how did you go about washing it? Just swish around some dish soap and water lol rinse it out let it dry
i blew it out REALLY well with the air line, and then i put a leaf blower in there and shook it all around. then yes i used dish soap and water to shake all through it.
after all that i let it dry for 24 hrs and installed. i had to redo all the lines etc so it was able to air dry for about 72 hrs after the water before i put the fuel in it
@@710Garage awesome same I got a brand new tank and braided fuel lines for my Ls swap foxbody and sumped it just been slacking on installing it lol. Appreciate the information that's what I'll do
no problem at all. what setup are you running in the fox?
@@710Garage sbe gen lll 6.0 rings gapped for boost btr cam ls7 lifters springs trunions btr intake Bosch 550 injectors terminator x ecu harness 88m vs racing turbo. Cut at strut towers tubular kmember a arms strange 10 way Shocks upr coilovers front back fiberglass fenders bumper hood. Mini tubbed shortened 8.8 th400 new stock tank sumped with a1000 pump -10 feed -8 return. Wiring the car now plumb this fuel will be on the road hopefully by the end of spring. Should be fun car
sounds like its going to be a nice setup that will move appropriately!
Good video
Glad you enjoyed, try a couple more :p
Is there enough lip there to use bolts instead of welding ?
im not sure how you would seal it afterward.
never seen a sump bolted before. i mean i guess you COULD but might be more work to seal it than having it welded if you cant yourself
hopefully this video helped you decide if you need a sump and what is involved in installing one.
here is a video for the engine we put together that requires this fuel system modifications th-cam.com/video/D_4uuO3-9JI/w-d-xo.html
Can you tell me if using a sump and the underside of a fuel tank is legal
i dont know why it wouldnt be?
now that said i am not a law enforcement agent and dont know all of the laws around North America. So i would ask your local authorities.
also... i have never been stopped, harassed, or had an issue with insurance and ive had pics taken for insurance etc.
@@710Garage thank you very much for a point in the right direction. Im sure i sound like a dummy. Im just starting out redoing my truck and have recently been drilled about it. I love your sump and just amazed by the results. It’s awesome. Thank you
thanks a ton for the compliment!!
not a problem at all. feel free to reach out anytime!
Hey man I've got a question, I'm going from a 1984 Carbureted Engine to a 1991 TBI Engine, Both Engines are from the same kind of vehicle, The 84 Engine is from a S10 Blazer with a 2.8L and the 91 Engine is from S10 Truck with a 4.3L, I was checking out the Fuel System stuff trying to figure out what I'll need for the Swap and I noticed that the 91 Tank has an "Attached Sump" and the 84 Tank Don't.... So does that mean I need to buy another Tank with the Sump bc of where I'm swapping to a TBI or will the NonSump Tank work ??? What would you do in my position ?
the sump shouldn't change alot on a stock application.
BUT i feel like rockauto may be the best source for cheap bolt on parts and be done....
sometimes trying to re engineer the wheel costs more and takes alot more time to figure out if there is a stock solution.
i would try that... if that failed i would run a small walbro pump with your stock tank and giver. unless youre going to hot rod it and need a bunch more fuel.
@@710Garage I just didn't know if a TBI would need the Sump or not, Bc like I said my current Carbureted 2.8L Engine doesn't have the Sump in the Tank bc it's got a Mechanical Fuel Pump as to where the 91 Tank does have the Sump bc it's TBI and it has an Electric Fuel Pump that's in the Tank.... I just didn't know if it mattered or not if it had the Sump or not, bc I'm going to be honest with you, I don't even know what the Sump is for....
@@s10_4_life6 the sump is a spot for the pump to suck from, which is in my video the lowest point and at the back for hard accelerating.
you can always run an inline electric pump like i have on my car to not swap tanks... like i said tons of ways to skin the cat.
@@710Garage Ok man I appreciate the help
@@s10_4_life6 not a problem. sorry it wasnt a clear cut answer but like i said lots of ways to do it... if you want to run an inline pump just make sure to filter before and after it and youll be good to go..
Can't have the return goto the sump?
going both directions that close together could make some disturbance in the pickup side. and we dont want to risk an aid bubble or straining the pump to much so i chose the opposite side. now that said i suppose you could weld a divider in. or a tube to extend where the return fuel is pushed to i suppose.
@@710Garage you think I can do it without dropping the tank?
@@paulsingh2579 you COULD but i would not recommend this. you want to flush the tank out before welding a tank thats had fuel prior.
and welding upside down sucks...
id say drop it