The more freedome part is because you are in the oberstufe. Younger people have to ask before they go to the toilet and are also often not allowed to leave the school during breaks.
@@janezhao2943 it's because they're younger and the school is responsible for them if a accident happens but only if it happens on the direct way to school or on the school yard(?) /place and the older classes are technically also under that rule but I just guess school teachers aren't that strict with the older one bc they're expected to be more responsible plus some senior (11th&12th graders) are also something over 18 or 18 so the school isn't responsible for them anymore the same way they are for the younger ones. Bc 18 or older is the official, legal adult age so these pupils are responsible for themselves
@@kisoschu Grade 11 is 16 or 17, not 18. Usually, 16 is the first adult-ish stage in your life that allows you to smoke and drink alcohol for example. My German school gave those freedoms (also leaving school premises during breaks) starting grade 11 regardless of age assuming everybody in that grade would be at least 16 years old.
I just watched your vlog for the second time and noticed that you mentioned several things like no turning in of homework, leaving school for the bakery, leaving class for the toilet and similar stuff. I think there is one and the same background to these things: We Germans simply trust each other. Teachers trust students to understand that learning is in their best interest, too. And students trust their teachers to have the students interest in mind when planning for tests/exams or actvities. You will see the same situation for example in public transport: You are expected to buy yourself a ticket but checks are only done once in a while (I once did a calculation whether it would be less expensive to buy a ticket or pay a fine. Was just about the same amount, except the hassle with police and stuff). Seems like (most) rules in Germany are just followed because we trust in them making sense in the long run.
I agree. I am older. Most of my schooling is German (Bavarian Gymnasium), but I mixed in 4 other countries as well, 3 before adulthood, as I moved around a lot. I got very hooked on what I called the German "academic freedom" to shape one's learning. It was a big part of my identity. That included actively challenging the concepts presented by the teachers. Turns out, in other countries with more rigid boundaries that made me quite a rebel. In some countries teachers are much bigger figures of authority, lessons are monologues and learning is memorization only. In Germany the focus is on understanding as opposed to just memorizing, hence only 6 questions in 90 minutes on the exam that usually spin an entire scenario and multipe choice is heresy. The school was also exclusively a place of learning, my social life was entirely disconnected from it. School events including graduation were also less festive than in North America, more like going to a Biergarten for a drink... not something I would plan for beyond 15 minutes before leaving the house. In hindsight I appreciate the Bavarian school system very much. I think it gave me unique advantages competing on the international stage (I haven't lived in Germany since 2006). In a way it can be reduced to Germany treating their teenagers and young people more as adults with the corresponding privileges and responsibilities, whereas in countries like the US or Canada even young adults are often treated like kids not capable of assuming individual responsibility, reflected by the American obsession with constant "adult supervision" of anybody who would be old enough to smoke and drink in Germany. Maybe I am biased.
@@mrnice1976 Treating kids as adults. That's right. The other day I saw a mother with two young kids, one sitting in the stroller, the other one (3 years old?) running ahead of her to the next crossing. There it stopped, waited for his mother, they both checked whether any cars were coming and crossed the street. And the little one took off again, up to the next crossing.Oh, and there were more people like me on the street, several checking whether the kid would really stop at the crossing. But nobody interfered since the kid obviously knew how to act on public streets.
@@wora1111 A European client of mine living in the US had a culture clash with his US neighbour because he let his 13 year old walk home alone from sports. The argument on both sides was the same : "He's 13 for f..... sake"
There are not many after school curriculums because germany has a big club culture outside of school. Sport clubs are a big thing but you can also join clubs for chess, LARP, sewing, dogs, rowing, sword fighting, etc. Basicly if you are passionate about something there will be a club for it.
@@janezhao2943 Nope, this are clubs which exist sometimes over 100 years. Also a sport club might have many sections e.g. football, hockey, basketball etc. under the same umbrella
@@janezhao2943 Yeah, it's not kids exclusive clubs... but clubs for everyone. Club culture (Vereinskultur) is a very important part of social life and civil culture in Germany. Basically a must have experience and the best way to overcome loneliness and getting an "in" with people.
I always thought it was interesting how in America all of your hobbies/interests are most often reliant on what extra-curricular activities your school offers. If you live in a city in Germany, most of the time you can join Vereine that offer anything and everything. It does take away from school spirit though - I did miss that when I moved to Germany in the seventh grade. However, there's also a lot more freedom for kids to go out and meet each other in the city, so often times although school spirit doesn't really connect one grade to another, the kids within one grade still end up super connected and do a lot together. I remember in the tenth grade my whole class went on an unsupervised camping trip for a whole weekend, in the eleventh grade 30 of us went to Amsterdam for almost a week (with two teachers, but we could basically go and do whatever we wanted for the most part), and in that summer 40 of us decided to go to Bordeaux for two weeks. So although we don't have "school spirit", we still ended up super close to each other, often meeting in big groups to chill, grill, and maybe drink a couple of beers every weekend. Now we still meet every winter when everyone comes home for Christmas.
that's definitely true + i've seen that! i think something that also helps strengthen the relationships between the kids is that the class sizes are significantly smaller than those in america. ie. here, my grade has 150 kids, including myself, while back in texas, there were nearly 1000 kids!! extracurriculars help you to narrow down to people who share the same interests i guess :))
it seems like high schools in germany r more like high schools in china in terms of this. like everyone stayed togehter for years and formed true bonds, unlike in the us & canada where students r divided into a bunch of cliques
@@davisli2662 Agree. My German friends to this day (many decades after) are still mostly the ones who were part of my class in high school. There is only one class and the class has all of the subjects together grade 5 to 11... only in grade 12 the class is broken up.
I prefer the German way because it allows the children to meet other children, not just the oney who happen to share the same school. At the latest when you are a teenager, it isn't unusual to have friends from all over the city you live in, weather they are on your school or not.
most people do not start working after school- the get a 2-3 year education in a specific profession. Around 50% is school- you lean a lot of Theorie related to the job, but also continue your general education. the other 50% is that you learn in-depth all the topics important for the specific profession. You finish the education with an exam. there is a good chance that you even make more money going the path than going to university.
@@janezhao2943 It‘s called Ausbildung. You would say apprenticeship or vocational training. You can‘t really work in Germany without this or a UNI degree. Not if you want to be a professional. (You can still work part time as a cashier, kitchen help, cleaning lady…) Negative point: you cannot just decide you want to be a hair stylist and open a salon. Positive: If you go to a Salon, you can be sure that your hairdresser knows what they are doing!
In my children’s school (gymnasium) there are many clubs after school (art, computer programming, film club, various bands from classical to modern, basketball, first aid/pre paramedic, show choir….). They also have an elective class which is learning an instrument, extra sciences, or a third foreign language (my son takes three foreign languages simultaneously). My kids also switch rooms for every class and once in grades 11/12, you have a different set of students in each subject. My older son also has days where he starts school at 9:35 and days were he does not get out until 5:20 - like you said, it depends on each student’s schedule. Yes, the schools are smaller, we have only 90 kids per grade (smallest in the city)but there are 8 gymnasium in my small city and you can chose which school you want to go to. I hope your German experience is a good one.
Thanks for the insightful video ! Baking a cake every time your mobile goes off, I like it ! Imho, the closest to US high school is rather the Gesamtschule, not the Gymnasium because the latter is, at least historically, reserved for pupils who want to go on to university. Another point of order: Although English is usually the first foreign language on offer, in some rare cases, schools in Germany allow you to choose French instead. If you attend a Gymnasium, you must study at least two foreign languages for at least three years each. That is not the case in the US, as far as I am aware. Extracurricular activities do exist, albeit not in a general way, it always depends on the school.
interesting! tbh idk much about gesamtschule so that's def smthg new i learned! i did notice that french is super popular here so not super surprised by that offer. was unaware that everyone has to learn two languages but that's super cool! in the u.s., it's common to just require two credits (aka two years) of a language. will ask around to see if anyone has extracurriculars. very curious about what extracurriculars in germany would be like.
@@janezhao2943 The extracurriculars depend on the individual school, or to be more precise, on teachers not shying away from investing the time to organize them. They are usually called AG, for Arbeitsgemeinschaft and can cover just about any activity such as sports, dancing, theatre, language, music etc. Btw, I forgot to mention that you can also still find schools that start off with Latin as the first foreign langauge.
ok that makes a lot of sense. would def be interested in seeing extracurriculars become more common here! french + latin seem to be among the most common foreign languages here. thank you so much for all the new information!!
That switch in grades happens when you go from the Mittelstufe to Oberstufe (from 9th to 10th grade where I'm from), when things get more serious. The 15-0 grades are more exact I guess, while 1-6 is easier for kids to understand. Also, about substitute teachers: They are "reserved" for the younger kids because they can't be left alone yet ("Aufsichtspflicht" - duty of supervision), but for the upper classes that's fine, so they will just have free time.
That point about the missing school spirit is just a rare exception. All schools i know have teams, choirs, clubs and group exchange with foreign schools. Its under the headline "Schulleben" and can be found on the most school websites. Just: many students do not even know about those activites at their school. I have been in school for several years until i heard about a theatre club for the very first time. But i was in the choir and we trained two days a week and two weeks full-time per year in a hostel together (just another school trip).
having no type of band was at least rare in my time at school,...but yeah clubs and sports teams are rare. normal when you wanna do something in that regard you join a club or association outside of school
ok interesting! not too many ppl i know actually play an instrument outside of school either. they tend to do sports or other clubs/organizations like fff
@@janezhao2943 sports and other clubs are organized on a local level outside schools in registered associations (dt. eingetragener Verein, e.V.) Music is often teached at music schools which are funded by the local municipal + student fee. Also music associations are on a local level
0-15 is the graduation-system for the Abitur 0= F 3=E 6=D 9=C 12=B 15=A Each point counts... ALL schools are minimum untin the 10th class...compulsory education are 10 years. If you stay down one or two times you CAN leave the school after the 10 real-years, u don´t have to stay longer, but allowed to... You can move from Hauptschule or Realschule to a Gymnasium, if you qualify for it by the grades
interesting. do you know why they make the switch? i did notice that my classmates still talk about notes in terms of 1-6 sometimes so that explains it
@@yamirdreizehn283 University doesn't use points, they have grades from 1.0 to 5.0, where passing grades are between 1.0 and 4.0 with .3 and .7 inbetween steps (1.3=1-, 1.7=2+, 2.3=2-, etc.) and 5.0 is failed.
Depends on the school concerning extracurriculars. My School had two orchestras, two choirs and a big band. We also had programming classes, language clubs (like f.e Russian) and other kinds. But the sport clubs of towns and villages ave a very long Tradition, so schools don't want to infringe on that
It depends on the teacher if the Homework gets Checked! But some teachers nearly never check but they defiantly will do it once so it's better if you have your Homework done. (Your grade will be better if you read your Homework for the teacher)
Gesamtschule is a combination thats correct. I dont think high school and Gymnasium really match, in Germany Gymnasium is the highest you can get. So what degree you need is commonly directed by which job you want to learn. So you can not learn everything with a hauptschul degree. And if you have a Hauptschulabschluss you can do one more year to get a Realschul abschluss. The Realschulabschluss has a degree called Q Vermerk, if you have good enough grades you get a Q Vermerk, and only if you have the Q Vermerk you can do three more years on the Gymnasium.
Hello Jane, I just came across your TH-cam channel by chance. My first impression was that you are the anchorwoman of some chinese TV station. But when you started to talk, I was overwhelmed and stand corrected. You have a very beautiful calm voice ! And you seem to be an ambitious person and a quick learner. Your pronunciation of the german words is already very well. Your description of the german gymnasium is quite precise, too. I hope you enjoy your visit in germany and take home a lot of good experiences and forget about the bad ones very soon. 🙂 Kind Regards, Oliver
Gymnasium is not like normal high schools if we look at the difficulty level. The high schools graduation is worth as much as the graduation of Realschule and less than A-Level in Gymnasium
You are right about the Gesamtschule: it is a Gymnasium, Realschule and Hauptschule all in one. Before the Gesamtschule was introduced, parents had to decide before the end of fourth grade which secondary school they would send their child to. If they aimed too high, the children were later overwhelmed and demotivated. If they aimed too low, the children could theoretically switch to a higher school later, for example from the Realschule to the Gymnasium. But because of the low demands, the standard of teaching was so low that moving to a higher school was a big, really tough challenge for the kids. In the Gesamtschule, the appropriate level for the children is continuously determined over the years and they are thus guided to the degree that suits them. Personally, I only sent my children to the Gymnasium because they received a Gymnasium recommendation from primary school. Otherwise I would have enrolled them in a Gesamtschule.
To elaborate on the Gesamtschule (or „comprehensive school“, as I was taught it is called in English) Yes, it is a mix of Hauptschule, Realschule and Gymnasium, but there are some unique twists: -in your year 7 you will chose another main class, and in year 9 a secondary class. You take those up to the end of the 10th year. The main classes at my school included for example Latin, French, science and (general homeworking; idk how to call it, they switched every 6 months between cooking and wood crafting). Secondary classes included french (if you hadn’t picked it in year 7), computer science, pedagogy for example. Important to note here is that getting a bad end of the year grade in a main class will force you to re-do the whole year. - starting from year 7 onwards, math, German and English classes will be divided into 2 halves: the Leistungskurs (wouldn’t call it the „genius class“ but you get the general idea) and the Grundkurs (basic class); you will put into the one most fitting for you depending on your marks and grades during year 5 and 6. so a struggling pupil will be placed into the Grundkurs and an excelling pupil will be put into the Leistungskurs. However, each semester you can either move up or down, depending whether you excel or struggle with your current class. (Well, if you struggle at the Grundkurs…you will get a bit more help from teachers, but there is no class to move down to. Struggle too much? Maybe have to re-take the whole year, it’s a main subject after all) -in year 9+10, there will be a 4th class divided into those courses. At my school, this was chemistry. -after year 10, you are officially done, but if you managed to have at least 3 Leistungskurse at certain grade levels (I think it was at least a 3/6 in every of those classes + if you were in 1 Grundkurs, no worse mark than 2) you’d get a special qualification to visit the Oberstufe. Oberstufe is naturally included into the gymnasium, years 11-13. they did try to shorten it to 12 years total, but soon the politicians realized that this didn’t produce academics faster. It produced semi-burned out young adults faster. (Try to cram 3 years worth of school into 2, watch every pupil be happy about that xD ) Every Gesamtschule I know also has this Oberstufe, so if you visit one you don’t necessary need to switch to a gymnasium after 10 years. You could, but you don’t need to. Also, decent pupils from a Realschule or really really good pupils from a Hauptschule can also acquire the qualification to visit the Oberstufe. My own profile class (biology and chemistry; there was also history + English and art + history; the first one is a main class and the second one a secondary class) had pupils from all school forms. The art+history profile class even had someone from a Waldorfschule. But that one is a whole topic in itself…
About mündliche and schriftliche Noten (Grades). Yes, there are the two categories and usually the final grade is the weighted average of both averages over the semester or year. Mündliche Noten (oral grades) are usually lower rated than schriftliche (written grades), in my school the final grade was 40% oral and 60% written. Participation is usually an oral grade but that is because impromtu grades are usually oral. Oral grades are impromptu grades (remarkable participation in the lectures, be it disturbance or making good points), as are pop-quizzes. Sometimes an overall participation grade is standart, sometimes participation is totally impromptu and not everybody gets a grade for participation for the whole year. There is a set number of exams (Klassenarbeiten, or Arbeiten), but the teacher can of course set quizzes if he wants. If those quizzes are announced beforehand they're counted as written grades, although weighted lower than the "real" exams. announced tests are usually about one thing, the thing that was the point of the last few weeks of class. While the "real" exams are about several things, the subjects of the last few months (depending on how many exams are set for the school year).
Always wanted to go to Germany, too bad my country doesn't have many routes to go to Germany even for exchange. I just learn the language on my own and watch videos like this nowadays. Someday, Germany, someday, I'll get there.
thank you!! i've definitely learned a lot in a very short amount of time. currently actually working to upload a video on what i've learned + i hope you'll like it!! :))
I'm Swiss and it's again soo different here.😅 Some examples: Our grades are also 1-6 but 6 is the best. We don't have like a 2- oder 2+ but we have 2.1-2.9 in between. So the steps are 0.1. Our primary school ends after the 6th grade. From there on you have three different options depending on your marks: Kantonsschule/Gymnasium is more or less the same as in Germany. Sekundarschule --> like the Realschule in Germany so your marks were not good enough for the Gymnasium. (Most of the students will go to the Sekundarschule here.) Realschule --> Is like the Hauptschule. Especially after the Sekundarschule or the Realschule you have many other options to go to whenever your marks are good enough. We have so many schools you can do on top of that. Or you just start to work. In Germany it's much more common to go to the Gymnasium than here.
@@Unkreativer_Name well, German grades are also done in those 0.1 steps. It’s just that for example 1.5-2.4 is a „2“. 1.5-1.9 is a „2+“. 2.1-2.4 is a „2-„. There’s also 0.x, meaning you got a 1+ But other than that, it seems your mark table is just flipped.
Hey, glad I find your channel! I hope everything is going well. German is a really cool language I plan to have it on my channel some day. Keep up the content though! This was really informative and a lot of stuff I had no idea about lol. Did you do this through a program at your school? If so that’s so cool.
hi! looking forward to seeing you do german!! i was able to do this through a governmental program called CBYX. the german counterpart is called PPP. if you’d like more info, here’s a link!! usagermanyscholarship.org
I was on a Gesamtschule and you can do your Abitur here. But I made my Realschulabschluss und went on a Fachoberschule to 12th grade and now I am studying on a Fachhochschule and Im 18 years old :)
As a "Humanistisches Gymnasium" my school started with Latin in 5th grade and I had to take English in 7th grade. In 9th grade I could have picked old Greek. Til the 10th grade your classes will be rated from 1 - 6 (sehr gut - ungenügend). In the "Oberstufe" (11.-12./13. grade) you will be graded with the points from 15 down to 0. Back in my days my school offered a Ruder, Handball and Hockey (field hockey) AG.
@@janezhao2943 My school was the Gymnasium to go to back in my days and the oldest in my hometown! It was founded in Febrauary 1543. But Latin was only good to help me with my German grammar. My German teacher til 8th really sucked. I always referred to her as a Körnerfresserin (muesli freak) ^^ My exchange year in the Houston area Jersey Village Highschool) helped me with English.
Latin is usually important if you're going to study medicine or law. Don't know if it is still required.... I was glad I took it from 9th to 12th grade and got credit "Latinum" for it because when I went to University to study to become a teacher you had to have basic knowledge of Latin when you wanted to be a language teacher. Having had it as a subject in school was so much easier for some than having to take Uni courses for it.
that’s definitely true! for my school, students can choose between latin or french in the 5th or 6th class (i believe). glad latin worked out for you though!!
That is not correct ! Attending school is mandatory until 18 ! If someone finish school earlier than 18 he/she has to educate further on . Misconception is the kind of education we call "apprenticeship" for us it is like vocational college or some special job education and for you it seems like kids would start to work ! It is illegal to hire minor staff without a education contract.
The Points from 0 to 15 make it probably easier to add up. At least when I did my Abitur most points from my classes in the 12th and 13th grade were added together to calculate the overall final score for the Abitur and that would then be calculated back to the 1-6 system with 1 decimal point. so like 1,7 or 2,5. The final 6 hour exams at the end of the 13th grade will also be weighted more so the points will be multiplited by 4 , I believe.
If the grade is 50%, then you have 5 points from 15 points, which is a 4. In America you might have A, B, C, D, E and F. But you often miss the grade E. The German 5 points or grade of 4 is similar with the American grade D.
Hello Jane, welcome to Germany. I hope you survive the probable loneliness because of the pandemic and it's restrictions. Young TH-camr Caroline Ruby happened that unfortunately so she did quit her exchange a few weeks ago. Good luck for you!
thank you for the well wishes! it’s definitely been difficult but talking with other exchange students and my host family helps a lot. i got super lucky and am so thankful :))
In North Rhine-Westphalia, "Hauptschule" and "Realschule" were merged. So there are three different degrees at two different schools. Grades; 1 is the best and 6 is the worst. Or it is expressed as a percentage, then 100% is best. Religion, Protestant, Catholic or Ethics are offered. Islam is also offered in some areas, but there has often been trouble because it is often influenced by Turkey and to extreme positions. This is NOT taught by church employees, but by state teachers. The aim is to agree on an overview of the norms and values, but not in-depth church instruction. But also to support the formation of your own opinion. Getting a bad grade in these subjects is unusual. Participating in the class is often enough, but you don't have to have the same opinion at all as the teacher. In Germany, church and state are separate, but both often work together in the same direction.
Personally, I didn't find the classes to be at a much higher level when compared to my American classes. However, I was lucky enough to have access to the AP curriculum at my school. AP (Advanced Placement) is a program that allows us to take college-level classes in high school. I definitely found it difficult to balance so many classes at once though! I normally have 4 different classes each semester, or Halbjahr, but in Germany, I had over 10 different subjects at once! I only received grades in a couple of my classes that I really focused on, but that was entirely due to the level of my German. I had no German before moving there!
Well, I think you gave a good overview about German HighSchool/Gymnasium. Two things are not quit right, or maybe just typical for your school. There are clubs, but mostly for the younger pupils from 5th to 10th grade (10-16 years). For teamsports you go usually to clubs in your quater in the afternoon. After the 9th or 10th grade, in Haupt or Realschule you are NOT allowed to work! Usually you have to go to school till 18 or for 12 years. BUT you can start an education in a job, in a company, where you usually go to a school for one day in the week and 4 days to the company (Berufsschule and Ausbildung).
@@janezhao2943 Thank you cool so are you taking Classe 11 courses in Germany? Are your classes for credit for what your taking in Germany DFW High School or are you taking American classes and the Gymnasium
yes! im taking normal 11th grade (E-phase) classes here. for me, i don’t desperately need the credits for my high school graduation so when i go back to america, i’ll see if i can be awarded credit but if not it’s not a huge deal. my grades are on a scale of A-D and it’s largely participation and effort. the teachers determine personally what grade i get depending on how much i do in class while taking into account my german level.
13 years were the standard in the german school system for a long time. In 2012 we started a reform to reduce it to 12years for Abitur (qualifaction for attending university). This reform wasnt fully accepted by the society and because of this there were some pushbacks to the old 13years system. So nowdays we have a good chunk of schools (mostly gymanisums) who are in the 12years system and them some schools, which are in the 13years system.
@@janezhao2943 Of course, my statement was no personal reproach to you. You are not resposible for the jurisdiction of the US Supreme Court on the Second Amendment which impedes legal arms restrictions.
According to the American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, 5th Edition, shock is defined as: 1. A violent collision, impact, or explosion, or the force or movement resulting from this. 2. Something that suddenly causes emotional distress. 3. A sudden feeling of distress. Did all those things you mentioned really shock you? Emotional distress because not having to beg to go to the toilet? Really? The therm culture shock is heavily misused on youtube videos. Please use culture differences instead of culture shocks. There is no reason to be shocked from minor cultural differences. If you really are, then you should not travel because it will ruin your health.
Rather than break down culture shock into two separate words, I, as well as a majority of other TH-cam videos, are likely referring to the term "culture shock". According to Oxford Languages, culture shock is "the feeling of disorientation experienced by someone who is suddenly subjected to an unfamiliar culture, way of life, or set of attitudes". Instead of belittling someone for their experience, why not listen to what they are saying? If you disagree, then say so politely, rather than telling someone to "not travel because it will ruin [their] health". Furthermore, "minor cultural differences" add up and all contribute to culture shock.
@@janezhao2943 A youtube video title has to be clickbait, this is why almost all videos describing experiences in a foreign country are described as culture shocks when in fact they are mostly just minor cultural differences. If people are truly shocked by cultural differences then any advice to stay at home is not belitteling at all but just common sense.
@@janezhao2943 Seit wann ist fremden Leuten seine Zunge Zeigen ein Spaß? Das wird überall als böse Beleidigung empfunden und deutet auf eine ganz schlechte Kinderstube hin!
@@Rainerjgs In Germany maybe, but there is a little country on your western border where we couldnt care less. 😉 Having worked with Germans and vacationed in Germany and Austria often, the difference is not that surprising. Things here are simply far more informal than in those countries. In a previous job we got a German manager that made the mistake of wanting his Dutch employees to obey him without questioning and no 'dutzen', that went about as well as you'd expect in a country that abhors formality and too strict hierachies.
The more freedome part is because you are in the oberstufe. Younger people have to ask before they go to the toilet and are also often not allowed to leave the school during breaks.
that makes a lot more sense! thank u for the info :))
@@janezhao2943 it's because they're younger and the school is responsible for them if a accident happens but only if it happens on the direct way to school or on the school yard(?) /place and the older classes are technically also under that rule but I just guess school teachers aren't that strict with the older one bc they're expected to be more responsible plus some senior (11th&12th graders) are also something over 18 or 18 so the school isn't responsible for them anymore the same way they are for the younger ones. Bc 18 or older is the official, legal adult age so these pupils are responsible for themselves
that definitely makes sense now that i think about it. thank you!
@@kisoschu Grade 11 is 16 or 17, not 18. Usually, 16 is the first adult-ish stage in your life that allows you to smoke and drink alcohol for example. My German school gave those freedoms (also leaving school premises during breaks) starting grade 11 regardless of age assuming everybody in that grade would be at least 16 years old.
@@mrnice1976 You are not allowed to smoke under the age of 18! I really don't know where this nonsense comes from.
I just watched your vlog for the second time and noticed that you mentioned several things like no turning in of homework, leaving school for the bakery, leaving class for the toilet and similar stuff.
I think there is one and the same background to these things: We Germans simply trust each other. Teachers trust students to understand that learning is in their best interest, too. And students trust their teachers to have the students interest in mind when planning for tests/exams or actvities.
You will see the same situation for example in public transport: You are expected to buy yourself a ticket but checks are only done once in a while (I once did a calculation whether it would be less expensive to buy a ticket or pay a fine. Was just about the same amount, except the hassle with police and stuff).
Seems like (most) rules in Germany are just followed because we trust in them making sense in the long run.
that actually explains a lot!! thank you for providing this new perspective; would’ve never thought about it like that before
@@janezhao2943 Well, I needed about 6 decades for that thought :-)
I agree. I am older. Most of my schooling is German (Bavarian Gymnasium), but I mixed in 4 other countries as well, 3 before adulthood, as I moved around a lot. I got very hooked on what I called the German "academic freedom" to shape one's learning. It was a big part of my identity. That included actively challenging the concepts presented by the teachers. Turns out, in other countries with more rigid boundaries that made me quite a rebel. In some countries teachers are much bigger figures of authority, lessons are monologues and learning is memorization only. In Germany the focus is on understanding as opposed to just memorizing, hence only 6 questions in 90 minutes on the exam that usually spin an entire scenario and multipe choice is heresy. The school was also exclusively a place of learning, my social life was entirely disconnected from it. School events including graduation were also less festive than in North America, more like going to a Biergarten for a drink... not something I would plan for beyond 15 minutes before leaving the house.
In hindsight I appreciate the Bavarian school system very much. I think it gave me unique advantages competing on the international stage (I haven't lived in Germany since 2006). In a way it can be reduced to Germany treating their teenagers and young people more as adults with the corresponding privileges and responsibilities, whereas in countries like the US or Canada even young adults are often treated like kids not capable of assuming individual responsibility, reflected by the American obsession with constant "adult supervision" of anybody who would be old enough to smoke and drink in Germany. Maybe I am biased.
@@mrnice1976 Treating kids as adults. That's right. The other day I saw a mother with two young kids, one sitting in the stroller, the other one (3 years old?) running ahead of her to the next crossing. There it stopped, waited for his mother, they both checked whether any cars were coming and crossed the street. And the little one took off again, up to the next crossing.Oh, and there were more people like me on the street, several checking whether the kid would really stop at the crossing. But nobody interfered since the kid obviously knew how to act on public streets.
@@wora1111 A European client of mine living in the US had a culture clash with his US neighbour because he let his 13 year old walk home alone from sports. The argument on both sides was the same : "He's 13 for f..... sake"
There are not many after school curriculums because germany has a big club culture outside of school. Sport clubs are a big thing but you can also join clubs for chess, LARP, sewing, dogs, rowing, sword fighting, etc. Basicly if you are passionate about something there will be a club for it.
ok so it’s slightly similar to america! a lot of the times kids will start a club if one doesn’t exist already.
@@janezhao2943 Nope, this are clubs which exist sometimes over 100 years. Also a sport club might have many sections e.g. football, hockey, basketball etc. under the same umbrella
wow okay did not expect that. that’s cool though!
@@janezhao2943 Yeah, it's not kids exclusive clubs... but clubs for everyone. Club culture (Vereinskultur) is a very important part of social life and civil culture in Germany. Basically a must have experience and the best way to overcome loneliness and getting an "in" with people.
i’ve noticed that! i play volleyball with a local team and a lot of the “kids” are in their 20s and on certain days adults play as well.
I always thought it was interesting how in America all of your hobbies/interests are most often reliant on what extra-curricular activities your school offers. If you live in a city in Germany, most of the time you can join Vereine that offer anything and everything. It does take away from school spirit though - I did miss that when I moved to Germany in the seventh grade. However, there's also a lot more freedom for kids to go out and meet each other in the city, so often times although school spirit doesn't really connect one grade to another, the kids within one grade still end up super connected and do a lot together. I remember in the tenth grade my whole class went on an unsupervised camping trip for a whole weekend, in the eleventh grade 30 of us went to Amsterdam for almost a week (with two teachers, but we could basically go and do whatever we wanted for the most part), and in that summer 40 of us decided to go to Bordeaux for two weeks.
So although we don't have "school spirit", we still ended up super close to each other, often meeting in big groups to chill, grill, and maybe drink a couple of beers every weekend. Now we still meet every winter when everyone comes home for Christmas.
that's definitely true + i've seen that! i think something that also helps strengthen the relationships between the kids is that the class sizes are significantly smaller than those in america. ie. here, my grade has 150 kids, including myself, while back in texas, there were nearly 1000 kids!! extracurriculars help you to narrow down to people who share the same interests i guess :))
it seems like high schools in germany r more like high schools in china in terms of this. like everyone stayed togehter for years and formed true bonds, unlike in the us & canada where students r divided into a bunch of cliques
@@davisli2662 Agree. My German friends to this day (many decades after) are still mostly the ones who were part of my class in high school. There is only one class and the class has all of the subjects together grade 5 to 11... only in grade 12 the class is broken up.
I prefer the German way because it allows the children to meet other children, not just the oney who happen to share the same school. At the latest when you are a teenager, it isn't unusual to have friends from all over the city you live in, weather they are on your school or not.
Informative and nice to watch! Well done young lady!
thank you!!
most people do not start working after school- the get a 2-3 year education in a specific profession. Around 50% is school- you lean a lot of Theorie related to the job, but also continue your general education. the other 50% is that you learn in-depth all the topics important for the specific profession. You finish the education with an exam. there is a good chance that you even make more money going the path than going to university.
i find that very interesting, especially compared to the american education system. thank you!
@@janezhao2943 It‘s called Ausbildung. You would say apprenticeship or vocational training. You can‘t really work in Germany without this or a UNI degree. Not if you want to be a professional. (You can still work part time as a cashier, kitchen help, cleaning lady…)
Negative point: you cannot just decide you want to be a hair stylist and open a salon.
Positive: If you go to a Salon, you can be sure that your hairdresser knows what they are doing!
In my children’s school (gymnasium) there are many clubs after school (art, computer programming, film club, various bands from classical to modern, basketball, first aid/pre paramedic, show choir….). They also have an elective class which is learning an instrument, extra sciences, or a third foreign language (my son takes three foreign languages simultaneously). My kids also switch rooms for every class and once in grades 11/12, you have a different set of students in each subject. My older son also has days where he starts school at 9:35 and days were he does not get out until 5:20 - like you said, it depends on each student’s schedule. Yes, the schools are smaller, we have only 90 kids per grade (smallest in the city)but there are 8 gymnasium in my small city and you can chose which school you want to go to.
I hope your German experience is a good one.
thank you for sharing!!
Thanks for the insightful video ! Baking a cake every time your mobile goes off, I like it ! Imho, the closest to US high school is rather the Gesamtschule, not the Gymnasium because the latter is, at least historically, reserved for pupils who want to go on to university. Another point of order: Although English is usually the first foreign language on offer, in some rare cases, schools in Germany allow you to choose French instead. If you attend a Gymnasium, you must study at least two foreign languages for at least three years each. That is not the case in the US, as far as I am aware.
Extracurricular activities do exist, albeit not in a general way, it always depends on the school.
interesting! tbh idk much about gesamtschule so that's def smthg new i learned! i did notice that french is super popular here so not super surprised by that offer. was unaware that everyone has to learn two languages but that's super cool! in the u.s., it's common to just require two credits (aka two years) of a language. will ask around to see if anyone has extracurriculars. very curious about what extracurriculars in germany would be like.
@@janezhao2943 The extracurriculars depend on the individual school, or to be more precise, on teachers not shying away from investing the time to organize them. They are usually called AG, for Arbeitsgemeinschaft and can cover just about any activity such as sports, dancing, theatre, language, music etc.
Btw, I forgot to mention that you can also still find schools that start off with Latin as the first foreign langauge.
ok that makes a lot of sense. would def be interested in seeing extracurriculars become more common here! french + latin seem to be among the most common foreign languages here. thank you so much for all the new information!!
@@janezhao2943 in Germany extracurricular activities are outside of school we have a large amount of clubs in the eavenings.
@@karinland8533 i noticed that! america has extracurriculars both within and outside of school so it's common to have a combination.
That switch in grades happens when you go from the Mittelstufe to Oberstufe (from 9th to 10th grade where I'm from), when things get more serious. The 15-0 grades are more exact I guess, while 1-6 is easier for kids to understand.
Also, about substitute teachers: They are "reserved" for the younger kids because they can't be left alone yet ("Aufsichtspflicht" - duty of supervision), but for the upper classes that's fine, so they will just have free time.
That point about the missing school spirit is just a rare exception. All schools i know have teams, choirs, clubs and group exchange with foreign schools. Its under the headline "Schulleben" and can be found on the most school websites.
Just: many students do not even know about those activites at their school. I have been in school for several years until i heard about a theatre club for the very first time. But i was in the choir and we trained two days a week and two weeks full-time per year in a hostel together (just another school trip).
1-6 Grades are till 10th class and 1-15 grades are for the higher classes.
You're a lovely girl Jane. I wish you much success and happiness in your life. Hi from Scotland 🇬🇧 👋
hi! i appreciate it + i wish you the best as well :))
having no type of band was at least rare in my time at school,...but yeah clubs and sports teams are rare. normal when you wanna do something in that regard you join a club or association outside of school
ok interesting! not too many ppl i know actually play an instrument outside of school either. they tend to do sports or other clubs/organizations like fff
@@janezhao2943 sports and other clubs are organized on a local level outside schools in registered associations (dt. eingetragener Verein, e.V.) Music is often teached at music schools which are funded by the local municipal + student fee. Also music associations are on a local level
ok gotcha. definitely noticed these registered things like the e.V but never knew what it stood for
0-15 is the graduation-system for the Abitur
0= F
3=E
6=D
9=C
12=B
15=A
Each point counts...
ALL schools are minimum untin the 10th class...compulsory education are 10 years.
If you stay down one or two times you CAN leave the school after the 10 real-years, u don´t have to stay longer, but allowed to...
You can move from Hauptschule or Realschule to a Gymnasium, if you qualify for it by the grades
good to know!
1-6 is done for younger people while after the 10th grade you usually use 0 to 15 as the grading system
interesting. do you know why they make the switch? i did notice that my classmates still talk about notes in terms of 1-6 sometimes so that explains it
@@janezhao2943
15 = 1+
14 = 1
13 = 1-
12 = 2+
11 = 2
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As to why: probably to get the students used to university
thank you!
@@yamirdreizehn283 University doesn't use points, they have grades from 1.0 to 5.0, where passing grades are between 1.0 and 4.0 with .3 and .7 inbetween steps (1.3=1-, 1.7=2+, 2.3=2-, etc.) and 5.0 is failed.
Depends on the school concerning extracurriculars. My School had two orchestras, two choirs and a big band. We also had programming classes, language clubs (like f.e Russian) and other kinds.
But the sport clubs of towns and villages ave a very long Tradition, so schools don't want to infringe on that
i never thought of it that way, but thinking back, it def makes sense! thank you for sharing :)
It depends on the teacher if the Homework gets Checked! But some teachers nearly never check but they defiantly will do it once so it's better if you have your Homework done. (Your grade will be better if you read your Homework for the teacher)
Gesamtschule is a combination thats correct. I dont think high school and Gymnasium really match, in Germany Gymnasium is the highest you can get. So what degree you need is commonly directed by which job you want to learn. So you can not learn everything with a hauptschul degree. And if you have a Hauptschulabschluss you can do one more year to get a Realschul abschluss. The Realschulabschluss has a degree called Q Vermerk, if you have good enough grades you get a Q Vermerk, and only if you have the Q Vermerk you can do three more years on the Gymnasium.
i was unaware of these steps, thank you for sharing!
Hello Jane,
I just came across your TH-cam channel by chance. My first impression was that you are the anchorwoman of some chinese TV station. But when you started to talk, I was overwhelmed and stand corrected. You have a very beautiful calm voice ! And you seem to be an ambitious person and a quick learner. Your pronunciation of the german words is already very well. Your description of the german gymnasium is quite precise, too. I hope you enjoy your visit in germany and take home a lot of good experiences and forget about the bad ones very soon. 🙂
Kind Regards,
Oliver
thank you so much!! you’re too kind 🥰🥰
Gymnasium is not like normal high schools if we look at the difficulty level. The high schools graduation is worth as much as the graduation of Realschule and less than A-Level in Gymnasium
You are right about the Gesamtschule: it is a Gymnasium, Realschule and Hauptschule all in one. Before the Gesamtschule was introduced, parents had to decide before the end of fourth grade which secondary school they would send their child to. If they aimed too high, the children were later overwhelmed and demotivated. If they aimed too low, the children could theoretically switch to a higher school later, for example from the Realschule to the Gymnasium. But because of the low demands, the standard of teaching was so low that moving to a higher school was a big, really tough challenge for the kids. In the Gesamtschule, the appropriate level for the children is continuously determined over the years and they are thus guided to the degree that suits them.
Personally, I only sent my children to the Gymnasium because they received a Gymnasium recommendation from primary school. Otherwise I would have enrolled them in a Gesamtschule.
I find the concept behind the German school system very practical! Thank you for elaborating.
To elaborate on the Gesamtschule (or „comprehensive school“, as I was taught it is called in English)
Yes, it is a mix of Hauptschule, Realschule and Gymnasium, but there are some unique twists:
-in your year 7 you will chose another main class, and in year 9 a secondary class. You take those up to the end of the 10th year. The main classes at my school included for example Latin, French, science and (general homeworking; idk how to call it, they switched every 6 months between cooking and wood crafting). Secondary classes included french (if you hadn’t picked it in year 7), computer science, pedagogy for example. Important to note here is that getting a bad end of the year grade in a main class will force you to re-do the whole year.
- starting from year 7 onwards, math, German and English classes will be divided into 2 halves: the Leistungskurs (wouldn’t call it the „genius class“ but you get the general idea) and the Grundkurs (basic class); you will put into the one most fitting for you depending on your marks and grades during year 5 and 6. so a struggling pupil will be placed into the Grundkurs and an excelling pupil will be put into the Leistungskurs. However, each semester you can either move up or down, depending whether you excel or struggle with your current class. (Well, if you struggle at the Grundkurs…you will get a bit more help from teachers, but there is no class to move down to. Struggle too much? Maybe have to re-take the whole year, it’s a main subject after all)
-in year 9+10, there will be a 4th class divided into those courses. At my school, this was chemistry.
-after year 10, you are officially done, but if you managed to have at least 3 Leistungskurse at certain grade levels (I think it was at least a 3/6 in every of those classes + if you were in 1 Grundkurs, no worse mark than 2) you’d get a special qualification to visit the Oberstufe. Oberstufe is naturally included into the gymnasium, years 11-13. they did try to shorten it to 12 years total, but soon the politicians realized that this didn’t produce academics faster. It produced semi-burned out young adults faster. (Try to cram 3 years worth of school into 2, watch every pupil be happy about that xD )
Every Gesamtschule I know also has this Oberstufe, so if you visit one you don’t necessary need to switch to a gymnasium after 10 years. You could, but you don’t need to. Also, decent pupils from a Realschule or really really good pupils from a Hauptschule can also acquire the qualification to visit the Oberstufe. My own profile class (biology and chemistry; there was also history + English and art + history; the first one is a main class and the second one a secondary class) had pupils from all school forms. The art+history profile class even had someone from a Waldorfschule. But that one is a whole topic in itself…
I was unaware of the Leistungskurs in the younger classes. Thank you for sharing so much, I learned a lot!
About mündliche and schriftliche Noten (Grades). Yes, there are the two categories and usually the final grade is the weighted average of both averages over the semester or year. Mündliche Noten (oral grades) are usually lower rated than schriftliche (written grades), in my school the final grade was 40% oral and 60% written. Participation is usually an oral grade but that is because impromtu grades are usually oral. Oral grades are impromptu grades (remarkable participation in the lectures, be it disturbance or making good points), as are pop-quizzes. Sometimes an overall participation grade is standart, sometimes participation is totally impromptu and not everybody gets a grade for participation for the whole year. There is a set number of exams (Klassenarbeiten, or Arbeiten), but the teacher can of course set quizzes if he wants. If those quizzes are announced beforehand they're counted as written grades, although weighted lower than the "real" exams. announced tests are usually about one thing, the thing that was the point of the last few weeks of class. While the "real" exams are about several things, the subjects of the last few months (depending on how many exams are set for the school year).
thank you for the detailed explanation!
Hope you have a pleasant and successful time in Germany and at your school in particular.
Always wanted to go to Germany, too bad my country doesn't have many routes to go to Germany even for exchange. I just learn the language on my own and watch videos like this nowadays. Someday, Germany, someday, I'll get there.
do exactly that! hope to see you in germany sometime soon :))
amazing vid 🤩🤩 cant wait for more!!!!
hehe love the support!!
Verify informative information! it is helpful for kids when they want to study in Germany.
thanks mom!!
What you are doing is so interesting! I feel like Culture shock is sooo healthy. You must be growing so much trough this.
🤗 i am very impressed
thank you!! i've definitely learned a lot in a very short amount of time. currently actually working to upload a video on what i've learned + i hope you'll like it!! :))
I'm Swiss and it's again soo different here.😅 Some examples:
Our grades are also 1-6 but 6 is the best. We don't have like a 2- oder 2+ but we have 2.1-2.9 in between. So the steps are 0.1.
Our primary school ends after the 6th grade. From there on you have three different options depending on your marks:
Kantonsschule/Gymnasium is more or less the same as in Germany.
Sekundarschule --> like the Realschule in Germany so your marks were not good enough for the Gymnasium. (Most of the students will go to the Sekundarschule here.)
Realschule --> Is like the Hauptschule.
Especially after the Sekundarschule or the Realschule you have many other options to go to whenever your marks are good enough. We have so many schools you can do on top of that. Or you just start to work.
In Germany it's much more common to go to the Gymnasium than here.
that's super interesting!! especially considering how close the countries are to each other lol
@@janezhao2943 yes😂
@@Unkreativer_Name well, German grades are also done in those 0.1 steps.
It’s just that for example 1.5-2.4 is a „2“. 1.5-1.9 is a „2+“. 2.1-2.4 is a „2-„.
There’s also 0.x, meaning you got a 1+
But other than that, it seems your mark table is just flipped.
Hey, glad I find your channel! I hope everything is going well. German is a really cool language I plan to have it on my channel some day. Keep up the content though! This was really informative and a lot of stuff I had no idea about lol. Did you do this through a program at your school? If so that’s so cool.
hi! looking forward to seeing you do german!! i was able to do this through a governmental program called CBYX. the german counterpart is called PPP. if you’d like more info, here’s a link!! usagermanyscholarship.org
I was on a Gesamtschule and you can do your Abitur here. But I made my Realschulabschluss und went on a Fachoberschule to 12th grade and now I am studying on a Fachhochschule and Im 18 years old :)
what advantages do you see from going down this path instead of doing your Abi?
This is so interesting! Good job. 💕
thank you! glad you enjoyed :))
@@janezhao2943 you’re so welcome! 💕☺️
As a "Humanistisches Gymnasium" my school started with Latin in 5th grade and I had to take English in 7th grade. In 9th grade I could have picked old Greek.
Til the 10th grade your classes will be rated from 1 - 6 (sehr gut - ungenügend). In the "Oberstufe" (11.-12./13. grade) you will be graded with the points from 15 down to 0.
Back in my days my school offered a Ruder, Handball and Hockey (field hockey) AG.
super interesting! did latin end up helping you later on (maybe with english learning?) or was it just a class you had to take?
@@janezhao2943 My school was the Gymnasium to go to back in my days and the oldest in my hometown! It was founded in Febrauary 1543. But Latin was only good to help me with my German grammar. My German teacher til 8th really sucked. I always referred to her as a Körnerfresserin (muesli freak) ^^
My exchange year in the Houston area Jersey Village Highschool) helped me with English.
wait that’s so cool! and very creative name haha, i like it :)
Latin is usually important if you're going to study medicine or law. Don't know if it is still required.... I was glad I took it from 9th to 12th grade and got credit "Latinum" for it because when I went to University to study to become a teacher you had to have basic knowledge of Latin when you wanted to be a language teacher. Having had it as a subject in school was so much easier for some than having to take Uni courses for it.
that’s definitely true! for my school, students can choose between latin or french in the 5th or 6th class (i believe). glad latin worked out for you though!!
That is not correct ! Attending school is mandatory until 18 ! If someone finish school earlier than 18 he/she has to educate further on . Misconception is the kind of education we call
"apprenticeship" for us it is like vocational college or some special job education and for you it seems like kids would start to work ! It is illegal to hire minor staff without a education contract.
thank you for correcting me! i will keep this in mind from now on
The Points from 0 to 15 make it probably easier to add up. At least when I did my Abitur most points from my classes in the 12th and 13th grade were added together to calculate the overall final score for the Abitur and that would then be calculated back to the 1-6 system with 1 decimal point. so like 1,7 or 2,5. The final 6 hour exams at the end of the 13th grade will also be weighted more so the points will be multiplited by 4 , I believe.
did not know that, thank you for telling me! when did you write your Abi, if you don’t mind me asking?
@@janezhao2943 like 20 years ago.
Well, we had this system of numbers in 1984 too.
0-15 is literally the 1-6 grading system just differentiated with the + and -
If the grade is 50%, then you have 5 points from 15 points, which is a 4. In America you might have A, B, C, D, E and F. But you often miss the grade E. The German 5 points or grade of 4 is similar with the American grade D.
got it! thanks for explaining
Hello Jane, welcome to Germany. I hope you survive the probable loneliness because of the pandemic and it's restrictions. Young TH-camr Caroline Ruby happened that unfortunately so she did quit her exchange a few weeks ago.
Good luck for you!
thank you for the well wishes! it’s definitely been difficult but talking with other exchange students and my host family helps a lot. i got super lucky and am so thankful :))
In North Rhine-Westphalia, "Hauptschule" and "Realschule" were merged.
So there are three different degrees at two different schools.
Grades; 1 is the best and 6 is the worst. Or it is expressed as a percentage, then 100% is best.
Religion, Protestant, Catholic or Ethics are offered. Islam is also offered in some areas, but there has often been trouble because it is often influenced by Turkey and to extreme positions. This is NOT taught by church employees, but by state teachers. The aim is to agree on an overview of the norms and values, but not in-depth church instruction. But also to support the formation of your own opinion.
Getting a bad grade in these subjects is unusual. Participating in the class is often enough, but you don't have to have the same opinion at all as the teacher.
In Germany, church and state are separate, but both often work together in the same direction.
i just learned so much, thank you!!
My mum mum was from Berlin Germany
very cool!
@@janezhao2943 thank you
My first exam is next week.
I'm going to die. :')
(Also great video!)
already had 2 exams :,))
good luck!! you’ll survive :))
(thank you!)
With the exception of baking a cake; everything you said has been fairly congruent with my school experience in the US.
Interesting! Where did you attend school? Also, was it a public, private, or boarding school, if you don't mind me asking.
Public school, 90s to early 2000s, US east coast
@@Dank_Nuggetz Interesting! I will definitely be looking into how America's education has changed in the last couple decades.
You should take a look at regional differences as well.
Using a handkerchief is completely ok in Germany.
How are you dealing with the much harder and advanced Classes in Germany? Do they even give you Grades?
Personally, I didn't find the classes to be at a much higher level when compared to my American classes. However, I was lucky enough to have access to the AP curriculum at my school. AP (Advanced Placement) is a program that allows us to take college-level classes in high school. I definitely found it difficult to balance so many classes at once though! I normally have 4 different classes each semester, or Halbjahr, but in Germany, I had over 10 different subjects at once! I only received grades in a couple of my classes that I really focused on, but that was entirely due to the level of my German. I had no German before moving there!
Hey Jane come back to Atwater and have a guess who I am.
look at my name you'll know
hi kyle!! that's crazy that you watched my video. hope you + your brothers are doing well!! 🫶🫶
@@janezhao2943 We are doing well
Well, I think you gave a good overview about German HighSchool/Gymnasium.
Two things are not quit right, or maybe just typical for your school.
There are clubs, but mostly for the younger pupils from 5th to 10th grade (10-16 years). For teamsports you go usually to clubs in your quater in the afternoon. After the 9th or 10th grade, in Haupt or Realschule you are NOT allowed to work! Usually you have to go to school till 18 or for 12 years. BUT you can start an education in a job, in a company, where you usually go to a school for one day in the week and 4 days to the company (Berufsschule and Ausbildung).
thank you for correcting me! that’s good to know
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to be expected, seeing that i am a very creative person 🤠🤠
nice video!
thank you!!
Are you in the 10th,11th,12th or 13th grade
11th!
@@janezhao2943 Thank you cool so are you taking Classe 11 courses in Germany? Are your classes for credit for what your taking in Germany DFW High School or are you taking American classes and the Gymnasium
yes! im taking normal 11th grade (E-phase) classes here. for me, i don’t desperately need the credits for my high school graduation so when i go back to america, i’ll see if i can be awarded credit but if not it’s not a huge deal. my grades are on a scale of A-D and it’s largely participation and effort. the teachers determine personally what grade i get depending on how much i do in class while taking into account my german level.
@@janezhao2943 thank you what is E-Phase
it’s just how germany refers to the 11th grade
Their is a 13th grade??
yes! it's actually super common here and many kids graduate "high school" when they are 19 or sometimes even 20!!
It depends on den Federal State and the School. Some have 12 and other 13 years for the final Exams (Abitur) to go to university.
13 years were the standard in the german school system for a long time. In 2012 we started a reform to reduce it to 12years for Abitur (qualifaction for attending university). This reform wasnt fully accepted by the society and because of this there were some pushbacks to the old 13years system. So nowdays we have a good chunk of schools (mostly gymanisums) who are in the 12years system and them some schools, which are in the 13years system.
so im german wasting time in my home country getting more debt
how so?
Very interesting! Best wishes from blind artist!
thank you!!
@@janezhao2943 🤗💚
Who pushed the 666th like-button?
Why are you whispering?
turn up the volume!!
We don't have weekly school shootings in Germany. This would be the biggest culture shock to me, if I lived in the USA.
understandable, but i think it's also quite insensitive to say so. especially for students like me, it's a huge concern + we are working for change
@@janezhao2943 Of course, my statement was no personal reproach to you. You are not resposible for the jurisdiction of the US Supreme Court on the Second Amendment which impedes legal arms restrictions.
Instead of saying u should just type and show it to us, because u r not audible
maybe check your device? im not having this problem
How you talking with nose very und friendly
thank you!
I don't watch a video with e.q. "shocked" or "shocks" in the title.
good for you!
According to the American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, 5th Edition, shock is defined as:
1. A violent collision, impact, or explosion, or the force or movement resulting from this.
2. Something that suddenly causes emotional distress.
3. A sudden feeling of distress.
Did all those things you mentioned really shock you? Emotional distress because not having to beg to go to the toilet? Really? The therm culture shock is heavily misused on youtube videos. Please use culture differences instead of culture shocks. There is no reason to be shocked from minor cultural differences. If you really are, then you should not travel because it will ruin your health.
Rather than break down culture shock into two separate words, I, as well as a majority of other TH-cam videos, are likely referring to the term "culture shock". According to Oxford Languages, culture shock is "the feeling of disorientation experienced by someone who is suddenly subjected to an unfamiliar culture, way of life, or set of attitudes". Instead of belittling someone for their experience, why not listen to what they are saying? If you disagree, then say so politely, rather than telling someone to "not travel because it will ruin [their] health". Furthermore, "minor cultural differences" add up and all contribute to culture shock.
@@janezhao2943 A youtube video title has to be clickbait, this is why almost all videos describing experiences in a foreign country are described as culture shocks when in fact they are mostly just minor cultural differences. If people are truly shocked by cultural differences then any advice to stay at home is not belitteling at all but just common sense.
Zur Begrüßung die Zunge herauszustrecken wird in der Regel als böse Beleidigung empfunden!
Ich wollte nicht unhöflich oder böse sein. Es tut mir also leid, wenn Sie es so interpretiert haben. Es war einfach ein Spaß.
@@janezhao2943 Seit wann ist fremden Leuten seine Zunge Zeigen ein Spaß?
Das wird überall als böse Beleidigung empfunden und deutet auf eine ganz schlechte Kinderstube hin!
@@Rainerjgs In Germany maybe, but there is a little country on your western border where we couldnt care less. 😉
Having worked with Germans and vacationed in Germany and Austria often, the difference is not that surprising. Things here are simply far more informal than in those countries. In a previous job we got a German manager that made the mistake of wanting his Dutch employees to obey him without questioning and no 'dutzen', that went about as well as you'd expect in a country that abhors formality and too strict hierachies.