Here in Europe education focuses on learning and applying the knowledge gained. This is the way I went through all my schools. A couple of years ago I had to take a few exams in the USA. To my surprise, I was able to buy books with all the questions and answers. In most exams the questions are fixed for several years. I used two months to record all the questions and answers in my memory. Understanding of the material is minimal. Passed the 3 following exams on this material within 2 weeks with > 85 % or more
It's your own fault. Once you're an adult, you have your own choice to study more than you're required. You saw a shortcut, and you took it not regarding what really is the point to school.
@@Kargalagan either way this takes all the credibility from us universities. How are companies supposed to trust on the education of any person, if they might have taken the shortcut or not. This is simply not possible in germany (and probably most other countries) because exams change
@@julianschmidt6669yeah depending on the state of Germany you also have to take the six exams on six consecutive days excluding the 2 days of weekend in between (e.g. in Bavaria). After completing your law studies at the university you then have to take your second state exam after another two year period. The second state exam is 9 300 minute exams on 9 consecutive days excluding the weekend (in Bavaria)
Hi Max, I am a student from Vietnam. I spent many hours watching all of your videos. And now I am happily studying at Leipzig University. Thank you so much!
The 3 attempts are just crazy in my opinion. Luckily i was never in such position but I had friends who were and let me tell you they went straight up insane studying (insane in an unhealthy way)
I studied industrial engineering and ive been in a total of 17 second tries and 5 third tries. Out of those 5 third tries i passed 2 or 3 with a 4.0 if i remember correctly. I used to not learn and check the courses contents for 1 hour the day before the exam because school was so easy it didnt teach me the need to learn for things. I even did the same when i was in my first 2 third tryers. Going through that turned me into an extreme high performer under insane pressure tho haha. But also an extreme underperformer when theres no pressure (at least when it comes to motivation)...
don't worry guys, exams are supposed to prove if we studied and are good at our passion! Germans care about our studies a lot so its actually normal that way, they are strict in this
Former Enginnering Student from Munich here. With some second attempts I once had 11 exams spread over the lecture free period. Studying at TU Munich was hard, but the salary it enabled me is well worth it and due to the intense studies I‘m considered a mechanical expert at my company now!😊
the worst thing in the uni is to study modules that doesn't interest you, it's a nightmare that you have to pass some useless modules to get to the stuff that matters 😢
Assuming you are in a sensible program in Germany, even (mandatory) modules you are not interested in will usually be relevant for your degree - not just the grade, but the knowledge and skills you lean. Granted, just as at school, you personally may never actually „need“ the concrete in your work later - but that may be very different for others in the same program or area.
@@rezaganjizadeh4263 I know this is the case in several countries (not necessarily with theology, the focus depends on the country). In Germany, this is not the case in any program I know. Unless you study religion, you won't have mandatory courses on theology, Unless you study politics, you won't have mandatory courses on how our system of government works. Unless you study history, you won't have mandatory courses on German history. Unless you study sports, you won't have any physical education courses. (There may be individual exceptions, e.g. if you study arts or architecture, you will look at the relevant historical periods, and you may also have courses on the historical genesis of the scientific area you study.)
@@guyro3373 Not necessarily. For example, you have to learn Ancient Greek for a degree in Latin. Yes, it makes sense to study the language because Latin is based on it for some parts - but you don't need it at all to learn Latin really thoroughly and teach it to children, it's just an addition. It helps you understand, but in my opinion, it's not necessary.
@@nriamond8010 which program re you referring to? I don’t think there is a „Bachelor in Latin“ anywhere (at least that I am aware of). Also note that you even mention that studying Ancient Greek in this context would „contribute“, so it would not be „irrelevant“…?
1 ECTS = 30h and you need 30 ECTS per semester, so it's 30 x 30h = 900h. You need to fit that workload into 15 weeks in winter (and summer semester is even shorter). So it's 900h / 15weeks = 60h / week workload or more. Realistically, you won't be able to work besides that unless you cheat. And by that I mean preparing directly for the exam questions of recent years instead of studying the actual topic and growing the knowledge. Sure, your degree looks good on paper and you'll finish faster, but you didn't learn anything except how to write exams. I wouldn't recommend working besides studying. The 60h/week workload is exhausting. You need a few weeks to recover between semesters and sustain this for 3-5 years.
@Ssjuescjjrsdcjz There's no shortcut to deep understanding. As I said, you can "cheat" and learn frequently asked exam questions by heart, but you won't learn anything. Studying like that is a waste of time.
@@marcotroster8247 of course there is no short cut but you can study efficiently or waste your time. For most of modules I don’t visit the lectures, but rather work on the script with friends or in my own and Fokus on tutorial classes. This saves tons of time, and many students at my university (or in generell in Germany) have adopted to this. When working on something on your own it’s just way more effective than listening to someone talk, in which case you often dont think to deep but rather listen because the thinking is being done for you. And only for specific question going back to a lecture and asking questions make sense
You are aware that working for many stundets is not a choice but something they have to do? I agree that it interferes with your studies and that if you are in the position not to work to not do it so you can focus but it’s not that easy for many students
1:40 that's so true... most of my friends or family members didn't go to a university and therefore they are always shocked when they hear that my lecture free time is between 1½-3 months. They think these are like holidays, but oh boy... they are not 😅 since I started studying I can't remember having any free time. I don't take that many courses, but with all the lection preparations, exams, term papers, etc... I'm nearly always busy. And if I am not, I do household chores or write stories for my wattpad account (as a hobby). At first I also thought it's easy...then I was a little too overzealous in my 2nd semester and took so many courses that I had to write 2 exams at the end of the semester and for the coming 2-3 months I had to write 4 term papers 🫠 (each with a length of about 10-15 pages per course). That was a lot of work. Afterwards I tried to not write more than 2 term papers during the semester. Now in my (hopefully) final semester I have to write 3 term papers but only because there are the only courses I've left open by now, that I need to write my BA paper and get my bachelor's degree. That's why I already started writing them a few days ago 😂 or at least one of them. So that I can finish them until January or February so that I can already start writing my BA paper at the end of February/beginning of march so that I have more time writing it. Next year will be tough 🫠 but afterwards it's luckily over and I can apply for jobs. Sorry for the change in topic to my personal life haha didn't want the comment to be that long
i did it easy way: i finished most of my subjects and just left my final exam untouched. So i had permanent holidays for several years. i enjoyed it totally.
Hey, 1 Credit point is actually officially corresponding to exactly 30h of work, not the 25h that you estimated, although it can ofcourse vary by university and subject and specific lecture
3:44 totally agree with this as well. I started tutoring in my 2nd semester a few hours in the week. It was doable. But it also stressed me a lot. I couldn't imagine doing a part-time or even mini-job in this period. It would've been an immense workload for me. I'd advise you to start working during 3rd or 4th semester, when you already finished your most important courses such as the introductory lessons or the proseminars, when you already learned the basics of your study subject and also know how to write good term papers. Tbh I haven't started working yet (besides my tutoring thing) and I'm now in 7th semester... but I could've started earlier if I had the time and the desire 😅 But I have now applied for a job at our local bakery. It has nothing to do with my subject, but now I've got way more free time during semester because I already finished most of my courses, so that I'm only in university on wednesday and thursday. And also my bafoeg (a state student funding you could say) runs out march next year...therefore I need to save a little money now to survive the last months in which I'll write my BA thesis and do my final oral examinations 😅
I mean it's doable, but you have to give up your entire free time, hobbies and friends. I started working from the first day 20h a week because I had to financially. It was intense though, I had to skip lectures. I did well in the end anyways and finished on time. If you would like to have a classic student life though (= go to parties), that's impossible. The first 4 semesters were most intense as there, I had all the "filter" exams. Later on, it was more project work and papers, so that was easier to balance with work. My professor in the first semester said: Look left and right. Two of you three won't be there anymore next semester. My thesis supervisor said the first four semesters are filtering out the less dedicated students, cause they don't have capacity to teach everyone later on.
If you study something like political science (like I do) the lecture free period is when you write your term papers (you usually have to write around 15 pages per course and typically do 2 or 3 of these per semester besides exams)
3 attempts to pass an exam sounds pretty nice. My university here in Switzerland only gives two attempts. If it is a mandatory module and you fail twice you are locked out from every course of study that requires this or a similar module in Switzerland, if it‘s a non mandatory module you have to replace it with something else. Other main differences are that 1 ECTS here usually equals 30h here and that our grades go from 1 to 6 with 6 being the best and 1 the worst grade. Also university is not completely free here. At my university it is 800.- per Semester (for Swiss students, foreigners pay a bit more). other than that it sounds pretty similar to how university is here.
As someone who also attended university in Germany generally this is pretty good advice! Although it might differ from university to university a bit and also depend on the subject you study. I studied geography and political science and had a huge variety of different classes and exams but overall most of my exams especially in the later semesters were term papers. While term papers can be easier than other exam types sometimes I always felt like in social sciences the expectations on papers are quite high and professors will often treat them like real research papers in terms of standards since that's a big part of your career if you decide to stay in academia. It really depends on the type of person you are and what is easiest to you personally whether your written exam, term paper or presentation is the hardest.
I loved the half a year in 2 lectures... The first math lecture I had, ran through the entirety of math I had in three years of my A-Levels in 1 hour and still had half an hour to begin something new...
If you’re a science student, the lecture-free phase of a semester is also used for experiments in the lab - leaving you with no time for a holiday for all of your studies. If you need to get out for a week, you have to sacrifice the beginning of a new lecture-phase and miss out on things.
I studied Aerospace at TU Berlin and the 30 ECTS per Semester is a dream made up by administrators who have no idea what it means to actually try to study the contents of a course. I was getting terrible results when doing 5 classes each semester so I started to do 3 courses and a project and, while it takes longer, I now actually understand the concepts behind the subjects I took and feel much more confident in applying them. Do not feel obligated to actually do 5 courses each semester if you notice you are not actually understanding the concepts. Take your time, get a part time job and aquire some field specific knowledge and enjoy learning again.
What a very good and compact oversight of the German academic education. I have another advice for deeper understanding and preparation for the lecture free phase. Take just half an hour every evening and write a documentation about your actual studies, in specific what you learned that day, what you finally understood that day, where you have problems. If you have any practical work, like experiments, mock up, proto types, yni, then make photos and sort them into your documentation with date time and content. This might sound like a lot of additional work, but it will safe you a life time even after your studies. And it teaches you discipline in self reflection.
I studied EE at the Technical University Munich waaayyy back in the 80ies. At that time, it wasn't even easily possible to get a third try - you had to apply for the third attempt, and within one block of exams, you could fail second tries in only to coures max to be allowed to apply for third attempts. Luckily, that happened to me only once. While waiting (for weeks, I believe) for the exam results, I thought I would jump and scream and dance if I passed. But when I actually did, I only felt huge, silent relief. I wasn't even able to celebrate. I was only happy that my path didn't end there and that I probably would be eventually able to finish my master's degree (Dipl.-Ing., as it wa called back then). Which I did. I wouldn't want to go through that again, but it was worth it.
Interesting factoid: In Austria the same 3 strike rule applies, but you can get 4 exam appointments spread over the study year. 1st End of the lecture period, 2nd End of the lecture free period, 3rd mid in the next lecture period, 4th at the end of the lecture period. Other than in Germany, you can PICK one appointment without getting an automatic strike by not attending the first or second appointment in Germany. Which I always liked more than the german system where you basically fail the first attempt if you do not show up.
Did my B. Sc. Physics in 6 Semesters and the workload was absolutely brutal due to the consistent assignments in the lecture periods and the exams in the lecture free periods. Would not recommend doing this, my mental health was not great in the end.
Just started my first semester of physics this year and yes, it definitely is an insane workload, absolutely crazy pace compared to school and so many graded assignments to complete each week... I already realised this is gonna take longer than 6 semesters lol
yeah 6 semesters is brutal. I purposefully took my time and finished in 8 semesters and compared to my peers i think i had to struggle a lot less, given that i was able to reduce my per semester work load. but i was also in the privileged position of not having to rely on bafög.
When you work as working student 12-18ECTS per Semester is more than enought. Dont kill yourself with the workload take your time. It's learning not suffering (ok sometimes it's both). [IT Student in Germany ]
You have to do at least 90 ECTS in the first 4 semesters, if you want to keep your BAföG. I did 30 ECTS in Mathematics per semester, which is calculated as a 40 hour week of work. I usually needed 50 hours + 12 hours working at the university, but this is not killing your self especially if you love what you're doing..
@@dietdoubledew8986that train left a long time ago for me lol. I now prefer to study at a slow pace (30 years old). The Bafög Amt is relentless in trying to get their loan back though lol. I just send them proof every year that I’m poor lol.
I studied biology and we had our full day lab courses in the semester free time plus exams. Some lab courses were spread throughout the semester tho but they were the shorter ones, where you would go to morning lecture then lab then evening lectures.
The 3 tries are not for every subjects; universities in Germany are all different and for subjects, it's even more different. For example, in the subjects I studied, you mostly had unlimited tries, but I had to do an exam in Ancient Greek because I studied Latin and for that, you only have 2 tries. Also, I don't think exams over the "holidays" are bad - if you only have 2 weeks of exams, you typically have to write essays and other stuff during the holidays. Also, I would have preferred to have weeks of preparation for each exam separately instead of sometimes doing several exams on one day.
I study mechanical engineering in RWTH. There are new exams now after Covid. It’s the same exact formula without multiple choice questions however now you can’t gain any extra points from a generally wrong answer because most of the exams are digital exams. There are no written answers what so ever. The questions still require you to do all the explanation and calculations to get the right answer but when it comes down to gaining points you just write a single number or a single word. It’s anal cancer and half my exams are like this. Also the only multiple choice exams I had had around 10 to 8 answers to choose from. Also the multiple choice questions weren’t a repetition of old exams in any way what so ever.
I want to go a bit deeper into the ECTS topic since it can seem a bit intimidating from the description and in reality it does vary from subject to subject. The official "definition" is 1 ECTS = 30h of time. This does include the lectures(1ECTS = 1 lecture a week) and is usually divided between lectures and study time. So a typical course like math might have 5-6 ETCS split into 2 lectures a week + 3 ECTS self study at home. The self study time of a subject is usually evaluated with equal (or a bit over) the lecture time. In my experience however this does not really reflect the real effort you have to put into the subject. There are subjects where if you attend the lectures you need to do very little at home. Especially if you have a good professor. However for other subjects you need to do more than you might expect from the ECTS requirements (In my experience those were usually engineering classes with lots of exercises and/or laboratory works). From my experience the overall ECTS load is a bit above the actual time you'll spend. A small tip I would give new students is to at least visit everything early on, get a feel for the specific workload and finalize your schedule after 1-2 months.
The 3 times thing is only true for some universities. Mostly universities of applied sciences i think. TUM and also LMU i think, to stay in Munich, don't have this restriction.
A Presentation in 15 Minutes? I’ve studied in Germany for over 5 years and no Presentation was less then 30 Minutes. Normally it was more like 45-60 minutes. Alternatively we should prepare a Seminarmeeting with a huge part being a presentation which would last up to 1,5 hours.
There's been a slightly new change to the "fail your exam 3 times and you're gone" rule. In my university (Bamberg) they changed it to now having infinite tries in any of the given modules. Meaning you can fail from the first semester and repeat it every semester (if the course is available in both WS and SS (winter/summer semester)) until the last semester which is usually the 8th after extension (technically 9, but i'm not sure about that one in depth. apparently it's only for retrying exams?).
I as a Person that got cancer in my University time, I cant tell you, If you are sick for more than 2 semesters, you get fuc*ed by the system. I had to exmatriculate and dont get any money and would be on the streets if it wasnt for my family. So as dumb as it sounds, have a backup plan, if you do not have fsmily here or have thd money to savd yourself.
For my Physics 1 and Physics 2 exams no cheat sheets were allowed. All required formulars had to be memorized. In exchange, the questions were not very complex if the underlaying concepts were understood.
Could you make a new video about Ausbildung or university for foreign newcomers? Finding a job and studying can sometimes be tough. I’d appreciate it if you could share your opinion on which one is better: university or Ausbildung. Thanks for considering a new video!
7:25 Open Book exams are a trap though. Since they are technically „easier“ to solve, the questions themselves become harder and you spent unnecessary time looking for the right info which might not even be in there. Studied economics around 50% before quitting and currently studying CS. The easiest exams have always been the ones where you’re not allowed to bring anything at all except your pen. No calculator, book, cheat sheet etc. sometimes a cheat sheet is even provided.
@@annekekramer3835 Yes! I dread it every time when I see an open book exam because I'm not a preparation kind of guy (like not taking notes inside a book or something like that, I don't like it), then I waste precious time finding info and trying to answer harder question. Meanwhile the most restrictive exams are a breeze, just learn all important stuff in 2 weeks before and you're good.
I am studying Applied Biology and I have basically no free period. I have two parts of exam periods in the lecture free period. This means I basically have some weeks in between free, but sometimes I don’t even have a day free, because I have to study for every exam.
Personally Term papers (the 10-15 pages ones) are actually way harder than the 90 min written example. They are way much more work since they are basically a mini thesis/mini research paper...
Servus. I am born in Germany and I study mechanical engineering in the Leibniz University (you showed a picture on 2:13). We have theoretically countless chances for an exam when we collect at least 15 „Leistungspunkte“. I failed some exams but wouldn’t describe them as super hard. I was just ill prepared and lazy during the semester
It seems to me that you are describing here studies at a private university. I went through the same at the University of New York in Prague. We prepared presentations in all courses except for calculus, statistics. I guess studies at a public university are different as private schools have pretty small classes ( 25-30 students). Whereas, public universities can have more than 100 students at once in the same lecture room
4:40 for real...out of all my courses I had to do presentations in 85% of them approximately. Not all of them were graded, but still. I hate them till this day 😂 but they help you enormously in speaking freely and discussing with others. Which is e. g. important later on in oral examinations or in your job life if you want to become a scientist in your field e. g. and you have to present new findings of your research to other colleagues or something like that. Very important in the world of the sciences
I just started my 3rd computer science semester and for some reason there is a huge jump in difficulty. Not that the topics are harder, but we have to do so many projects at once ... last semester was chill conpared to that
At least you have projectsss.. my whole bachelors I had only 2 projects which were only 50% of the grade and rest were just paper based exams that are 100% your grade...
Es gibt noch einen wichtigen Punkt: es gibt viele Hochschulen, an denen es keine Altklausuren zum üben gibt und die Übungsaufgaben sind viel leichter als die Klausuraufgaben. Dadurch wird das Studium künstlich erschwert. Meiner Meinung nach ist ein Studium dann schwer, wenn es wenig Altklausuren zum üben gibt.
Is GPA crucial for employment in Germany? For example, in the US, your GPA plays a significant role to get the job you want. Do German employers pay special attention to the grade you graduated from uni?
Im no expert but I would guess that good grades in a relevant course are definately good to have, since its just a really easy and solid way to prove that you are interested and proficient in a certain topic.
It's not that important. Having average grades is fine (ideally better than 2.5), unless you'd like to do a PhD, in which case you'd need at least 1.7. For a job, it's your experience that matters more and the language will help.
Of course it's an important factor as a fresh graduate, but once you have some working experience late in your career it becomes less relevant. If you have a subpar GPA you can compensate with internships or relevant working student experiences.
It depends on the subject. With math and physics you'll always find a good paying job but subjects like biology are so flooded with students that you need good grades to impress any future employer since so many have the same qualifications.
@@loremipsum-tk2pu We don't usually have a point system in Germany, it's 1, 2, 3, 4 or 5 (with 5 = fail), and some intermediate steps ("1.3" is a "weak 1" or "weak A / A-", "1.7" is a "good 2" or "good B / B+", although it ends at 4.0 ("pass") and then comes "5.0" (fail). So feeling shock on seeing a "two" leaves the question if that person was shocked to receive a "good" grade, or fail to get a "very good" grade...
@ exactly that’s what I tried to say; Germany is different and like very school does its own stuff the only things that combine all are the always missing teachers and the hard exams
Honestly I found exams to be easier in Germany. In my country there is a bit too much focus on the theory aspects. Here every problem was some practical numerical for the studied material. It was much easier for me to keep up without spending hours cramming definations and stuff.
As I was a university student (diploma for technical computer science) I learned following rules: - when you fail in one class 3 times, you will not get a chance to study any other topics including this class (i.e. when you fail in maths class, you can no longer study physics, computer science or maths even in other universities) - when you make a small mistake in one question of the exam, the whole question is graded with 0 points - Very often you get introduced in one different topic each day. Quote "we begin with something essy, a triple integral..." and you will mostly not be fast enough to write everything down and understand at the same time since the board will directly wiped and rewritten again. You have to understand it in the first place or just understand what you have to learn in the free time - some profs don't care if you participate in the course, some do. In the second case you will get worse grades when you stay at home even if you have very good grades anywhere. They lower the grades more on any small mistakes you do. Other profs are more "grade friendly" but you have to be aware of this - In most cases when you have "laboratory" (experimental courses) you don't need to do it when the timetable sais it, but also do it on your own when the laborarity room is free and you make your protocols afterwards as long you do not exceed the deadline. - when you study maths, the lessons of higher maths are more stretched out as you study computer science. The same lessons there for higher maths are stretched into the first semesters. This is why they called technical computer science "the most difficult course of study". We where 500 students in the first semester, but only 12 or so finished it with a dilpoma. I do not know if this changed since there is no diploma any more but master/bachelor nowadays. Good luck to all students :)
FYI: EN when = DE wann DE wenn, falls = EN if Prüfen kannst du’s indem du „when“ mit „sobald der Zeitpunkt kommt, dass…“ ersetzt. Stimmt der Sinn nicht mehr, dann meinst du wahrscheinlich „if“. ;)
I agree with most of what you've listed, but the zero grade on a question due to a minor mistake is something that is definitely not generally applicable and depends largely on the professor, subject and mistake. This was rather the exception during my CS studies in Germany, not the norm.
It is NOT true that if you fail a class youre not allowed to study any other degree containing that class. Lets say you study maths and ultimately fail the statistics-class. You are now banned from studying other degrees containing that EXACT statistics-class. But of course most universities have different topic-layouts for each class. So a statistics class at the university of Berlin might be different topic-wise than a statistics class at the university of Munich. Many students who fail a certain class can still continue their studies at a different facility.
@darkforcekiller This is what they told us. When a class is the same and you failed, you can not restart it in another university. Maybe this changed one day, or it depends on the university. Do consider that the degree (diploma) I made is no longer existent, maybe this also changed? But you are right in that must be exact the same class. Maybe it also depends on the state. The article I found reads the following:"Noch mal durchgefallen? Jetzt wird es knapp. Wer drei Mal an der Uni durch eine Prüfung fällt, wird exmatrikuliert. Außerdem darf man das eigene Fach an keiner anderen deutschen Uni mehr studieren"
@@gsittly You are banned from the degree no from the class. You change your degree beforehand to circumvent getting banned from studying a degree. Like change fro math to economic math, physics to meteorology, etc. there are many ways to not get banned. So if you already failed two times ask you student union or your study counselor what is the best action to still get a degree which would still be somewhat usable for your career choice. There is so much variety between the Federal States to always get out of this. Do not do a third try unless you addressed your issues thematically or formally.
Me, watching this on my 30min study break. I managed to somehow fail one exam which counts 50/50 with another exam. Now I have to rewrite both of them in the middle of my semester. Dont be like me…
Hi, the discord community link is invalid, can you upload it again if it's available? Anyway, like your video since I am considering Germany for further study.
@@StEvUgnIn nah i didn't see that , i got so much benefits from him ,i was watching him before i come to Germany,now I'm in Germany and i still find his videos very important, awesome guy ✔️
Max, I love your contents. I'm very likely to come to Germany for my masters. But as an international student, there's a big problem with getting a visa appointment in my country. It takes more than 22months to get an appointment at the embassy. For that I might have to apply to German university in the winter semester and probably have to defer to the next semester or even the next one. Can you make some content about the university that students can apply to defer semester? Thank you.
Surely, the ECTS are the same difficulty across all countries? For example, the same exams have the similar exam papers from TUchemnitz and my irish university. But the irish semester is a lot shorter and you only have one week to complete you exams after teaching finishes. But you can still study the same course in anither university its judt that fees can go from 2k/year to 20k
Studied applied mathematics and computer science in germany. It's hard but doable. Most stressful for me were oral exams in mathematics. That really exposes if you just pushed information down your throat stupidly or if you actually understand and can expand from what you learned. I remember doing up to 10 hours of thinking per day, sometimes 7 days a week in preparation of certain exams. But actually the profs were super supportive if you really showed interest and willingness to gain deep understanding. Nonetheless emotionally draining... Oh, one thing on the "3 failures and you are out"-thing. A buddy of mine was in a situation like that and was allowed another attempt after some paperwork due to his dire personal situation. But this seems to be only applicable if you have really good reasons that are outside your own influence. So...maybe search for a psychotherapist early on who can help you out in case of emergency (finding specialists who are not booked out for ages can be nightmarish in some parts of germany...)
Hey Max, I just arrived from Mexico to Munich for my Masters at TUM. Any tips you can give me on how to make the most of the uni services and installations?
"As students we are expected to complete 30 credit points". Well, yeah, but this is neither obligatory nor necessary. I personally do about 12 CPs every semester alongside by working student job, and this is how I recommend everyone to proceed. Take your time, enjoy the process, gain work experience and LEARN THE LANGUAGE.
Yeah when i studied 20 years ago, we calculated it differently, with 1ECTS being equivalent to 3 hours of work per week. 20 ECTS per Semester were considered the absolute max workload doable. But that was before/during the change from magister/diploma classes to bachelor, so maybe stuff has changed. Or it was because i studied stuff that required you to go on field trips and excavations during the lesson free time, so no time to study or write papers then, except for the papers related to the Trips. Tl;dr 30 ECTS sounds outragiously much to me. 12 seems like a good amount.
Hello sir, I hope you’re doing well! My name is Kareem, and I’m currently working as a founding SDE at a startup, specializing in the MERN stack and Next.js, with a focus on web development and some basic mobile development. I have around 8-9 months of internship experience and 6+ months of full-time experience, and I graduated in 2024 with a CGPA of 7.0 (~2.8). I’m reaching out to get your advice on a decision I’m struggling with. I’m interested in pursuing a master’s degree in Computer Science, possibly in Germany, but I’m not sure if I should continue working full-time for another 1-2 years to gain more experience or apply for a master’s right away. Could you please help guide me in deciding whether it's better to gain more work experience first or go directly for a master's program? I'd really appreciate your insights! Thank you so much for your time and guidance. Best regards, Kareem
bro some german university requires CEFR certificate in German and English language. and they don't requeires IELTS score. Is it possible get those certificate in India?
max, if i choose german standard uni for computerscience then will the questions be in german and should I write the answers of the exam in german language too? or the questions will be in English and we can write in English only?
A standard course will be in German and you will have to show some proof of your German skills before enroling in University. However, some Universities offer specific degrees completely in English. Look specifically for them.
They are regular lessons that you are supposed to attend. Usually, they are assistants of the professors or older students. I used to do it as a part-time job myself. Great thing to do, you actually learn a lot yourself by tutoring younger students. For STEM subjects, these tutoring lessons are the most important parts of the curriculum, IMHO.
Hello, I'm currently pursuing a Bachelor of Pharmacy in India, and Aiming to study Master's program in Germany. I need help in selecting courses , As there is limited content on TH-cam related to pharmacy master's programs, I've looked at various websites (daad) but couldn't find relevant pharmacy courses , I'm particularly interested in 1.Clinical Data Management, 2.Drug Regulatory Affairs, and 3.Quality Assurance , If I choose a combination course, the future will be good. Could you please provide a list of all Master's courses related to pharmacy in Germany? Or please create a TH-cam video covering all pharmacy-related master's programs available in Germany. Thank you!
There aren’t any Masters programs in pharmacy in Germany since Pharmacy is only available for state examination so it’s government controlled and not by the universities. There are similar Masters that you can do with a Bachelor’s degree in Pharmacy but not pure Pharmacy
Maybe good to know, many chemistry-related studies require a lot of lab work. If you have no basic lab experience but it is expected because it was an extensive part of the German bachelor's programme you are set up to struggle.
It's usually 11-15 weeks (most often 12-13 weeks) of lectures and the rest is break with exams here and there. In most courses, deadlines will revolve around the first part of the break so you might actually get a bit of holidays afterwards. For example, lots of unis start lectures mid-October now and run until beginning of February. Exams might be in February and you get march off until the new semester starts in April. But the actual dates differ not only between unis but also between seminars because it's the teachers that decide the deadlines.
Hi sir, I have a doubt . Any public university will accept bsc graduate from India to apply masters in Germany. Thank for your time, I hope for response. Sir
Hi bro, After I completed my bachelors, I applied to many public universities to do masters. But all I got was rejections. Since studying in Germany was always being by dream, I enrolled in a bachelors course. So max,I just wanted to know if after my bachelors in Germany can I get job. Or should I need to do masters. Can a bachelor degree get me a job?
Most of my grades in high school at the moment are b+ (when converted from albanian grades to american) Is that good enough to get to a german university?
As an IT student here in india and one who tryed jee advance, i am confident germany will be a little bit easy for me than others 😅 But heyy , those who try will always achieve higher
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Here in Europe education focuses on learning and applying the knowledge gained. This is the way I went through all my schools. A couple of years ago I had to take a few exams in the USA. To my surprise, I was able to buy books with all the questions and answers. In most exams the questions are fixed for several years. I used two months to record all the questions and answers in my memory. Understanding of the material is minimal. Passed the 3 following exams on this material within 2 weeks with > 85 % or more
It's your own fault. Once you're an adult, you have your own choice to study more than you're required. You saw a shortcut, and you took it not regarding what really is the point to school.
@@Kargalaganbuddy this means your schools and universities are failing.
@@Kargalagangiving students such a shortcut in the first place is setting them up for failure
@@Kargalagan either way this takes all the credibility from us universities. How are companies supposed to trust on the education of any person, if they might have taken the shortcut or not. This is simply not possible in germany (and probably most other countries) because exams change
From the Netherlands, my reaction is: WTF???
Addition: Written exams range from 60 up to 180 minutes, depending on the module and its ECTS.
Or even longer 😅
I studied law and our first state examen contained six 300 minute written exams
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@@julianschmidt6669yeah depending on the state of Germany you also have to take the six exams on six consecutive days excluding the 2 days of weekend in between (e.g. in Bavaria).
After completing your law studies at the university you then have to take your second state exam after another two year period. The second state exam is 9 300 minute exams on 9 consecutive days excluding the weekend (in Bavaria)
Nope, i wrote 300 minute exams
Hi Max, I am a student from Vietnam. I spent many hours watching all of your videos. And now I am happily studying at Leipzig University. Thank you so much!
Dude that's amazing! So happy to hear that
Whishing you best luck!
Best of luck. I was born in Leipzig so I really hope you like and enjoy the city. Do you mind me asking what you are studying at the Uni?
@@machdiekameraaus6467 Hi, thank you very much for your wishes. I am studying the SEPT MBA program from Uni Leipzig.
All the best to you!
The 3 attempts are just crazy in my opinion. Luckily i was never in such position but I had friends who were and let me tell you they went straight up insane studying (insane in an unhealthy way)
It's similar in Australia. If you fail 3 times you are "excluded" and can't study at any university for a period of a few years.
I think this depends on the university... some use it to weed out students.. but others do not and just raise the difficulty of the exams
Thats why, if possible, you only select an amount of classes that you can handle in one semester.
I studied industrial engineering and ive been in a total of 17 second tries and 5 third tries. Out of those 5 third tries i passed 2 or 3 with a 4.0 if i remember correctly. I used to not learn and check the courses contents for 1 hour the day before the exam because school was so easy it didnt teach me the need to learn for things. I even did the same when i was in my first 2 third tryers. Going through that turned me into an extreme high performer under insane pressure tho haha. But also an extreme underperformer when theres no pressure (at least when it comes to motivation)...
@@Zstra9 legend
don't worry guys, exams are supposed to prove if we studied and are good at our passion!
Germans care about our studies a lot so its actually normal that way, they are strict in this
Former Enginnering Student from Munich here. With some second attempts I once had 11 exams spread over the lecture free period. Studying at TU Munich was hard, but the salary it enabled me is well worth it and due to the intense studies I‘m considered a mechanical expert at my company now!😊
the worst thing in the uni is to study modules that doesn't interest you, it's a nightmare that you have to pass some useless modules to get to the stuff that matters 😢
Assuming you are in a sensible program in Germany, even (mandatory) modules you are not interested in will usually be relevant for your degree - not just the grade, but the knowledge and skills you lean. Granted, just as at school, you personally may never actually „need“ the concrete in your work later - but that may be very different for others in the same program or area.
That is also the case in Iran. Really pisses me off when I have to study theology while majoring in Computer engineering
@@rezaganjizadeh4263 I know this is the case in several countries (not necessarily with theology, the focus depends on the country). In Germany, this is not the case in any program I know.
Unless you study religion, you won't have mandatory courses on theology,
Unless you study politics, you won't have mandatory courses on how our system of government works.
Unless you study history, you won't have mandatory courses on German history.
Unless you study sports, you won't have any physical education courses.
(There may be individual exceptions, e.g. if you study arts or architecture, you will look at the relevant historical periods, and you may also have courses on the historical genesis of the scientific area you study.)
@@guyro3373 Not necessarily. For example, you have to learn Ancient Greek for a degree in Latin. Yes, it makes sense to study the language because Latin is based on it for some parts - but you don't need it at all to learn Latin really thoroughly and teach it to children, it's just an addition. It helps you understand, but in my opinion, it's not necessary.
@@nriamond8010 which program re you referring to? I don’t think there is a „Bachelor in Latin“ anywhere (at least that I am aware of).
Also note that you even mention that studying Ancient Greek in this context would „contribute“, so it would not be „irrelevant“…?
1 ECTS = 30h and you need 30 ECTS per semester, so it's 30 x 30h = 900h. You need to fit that workload into 15 weeks in winter (and summer semester is even shorter). So it's 900h / 15weeks = 60h / week workload or more.
Realistically, you won't be able to work besides that unless you cheat. And by that I mean preparing directly for the exam questions of recent years instead of studying the actual topic and growing the knowledge. Sure, your degree looks good on paper and you'll finish faster, but you didn't learn anything except how to write exams.
I wouldn't recommend working besides studying. The 60h/week workload is exhausting. You need a few weeks to recover between semesters and sustain this for 3-5 years.
The key is spending your time efficiently for studying. If you spend 900h for university in 1 lecture period your doing something wrong.
@Ssjuescjjrsdcjz There's no shortcut to deep understanding. As I said, you can "cheat" and learn frequently asked exam questions by heart, but you won't learn anything. Studying like that is a waste of time.
@@marcotroster8247 of course there is no short cut but you can study efficiently or waste your time. For most of modules I don’t visit the lectures, but rather work on the script with friends or in my own and Fokus on tutorial classes. This saves tons of time, and many students at my university (or in generell in Germany) have adopted to this. When working on something on your own it’s just way more effective than listening to someone talk, in which case you often dont think to deep but rather listen because the thinking is being done for you. And only for specific question going back to a lecture and asking questions make sense
You are aware that working for many stundets is not a choice but something they have to do? I agree that it interferes with your studies and that if you are in the position not to work to not do it so you can focus but it’s not that easy for many students
@@cherryblossom209 True but that was never the topic over here
1:40 that's so true... most of my friends or family members didn't go to a university and therefore they are always shocked when they hear that my lecture free time is between 1½-3 months. They think these are like holidays, but oh boy... they are not 😅 since I started studying I can't remember having any free time. I don't take that many courses, but with all the lection preparations, exams, term papers, etc... I'm nearly always busy. And if I am not, I do household chores or write stories for my wattpad account (as a hobby).
At first I also thought it's easy...then I was a little too overzealous in my 2nd semester and took so many courses that I had to write 2 exams at the end of the semester and for the coming 2-3 months I had to write 4 term papers 🫠 (each with a length of about 10-15 pages per course). That was a lot of work. Afterwards I tried to not write more than 2 term papers during the semester. Now in my (hopefully) final semester I have to write 3 term papers but only because there are the only courses I've left open by now, that I need to write my BA paper and get my bachelor's degree. That's why I already started writing them a few days ago 😂 or at least one of them. So that I can finish them until January or February so that I can already start writing my BA paper at the end of February/beginning of march so that I have more time writing it. Next year will be tough 🫠 but afterwards it's luckily over and I can apply for jobs.
Sorry for the change in topic to my personal life haha didn't want the comment to be that long
i did it easy way: i finished most of my subjects and just left my final exam untouched. So i had permanent holidays for several years. i enjoyed it totally.
@@tr0llpatr0l86 Wie meinst du das, wenn ich fragen darf?
Hey, 1 Credit point is actually officially corresponding to exactly 30h of work, not the 25h that you estimated, although it can ofcourse vary by university and subject and specific lecture
3:44 totally agree with this as well. I started tutoring in my 2nd semester a few hours in the week. It was doable. But it also stressed me a lot. I couldn't imagine doing a part-time or even mini-job in this period. It would've been an immense workload for me.
I'd advise you to start working during 3rd or 4th semester, when you already finished your most important courses such as the introductory lessons or the proseminars, when you already learned the basics of your study subject and also know how to write good term papers.
Tbh I haven't started working yet (besides my tutoring thing) and I'm now in 7th semester... but I could've started earlier if I had the time and the desire 😅
But I have now applied for a job at our local bakery. It has nothing to do with my subject, but now I've got way more free time during semester because I already finished most of my courses, so that I'm only in university on wednesday and thursday.
And also my bafoeg (a state student funding you could say) runs out march next year...therefore I need to save a little money now to survive the last months in which I'll write my BA thesis and do my final oral examinations 😅
I mean it's doable, but you have to give up your entire free time, hobbies and friends. I started working from the first day 20h a week because I had to financially. It was intense though, I had to skip lectures. I did well in the end anyways and finished on time. If you would like to have a classic student life though (= go to parties), that's impossible. The first 4 semesters were most intense as there, I had all the "filter" exams. Later on, it was more project work and papers, so that was easier to balance with work. My professor in the first semester said: Look left and right. Two of you three won't be there anymore next semester.
My thesis supervisor said the first four semesters are filtering out the less dedicated students, cause they don't have capacity to teach everyone later on.
If you study something like political science (like I do) the lecture free period is when you write your term papers (you usually have to write around 15 pages per course and typically do 2 or 3 of these per semester besides exams)
3 attempts to pass an exam sounds pretty nice. My university here in Switzerland only gives two attempts. If it is a mandatory module and you fail twice you are locked out from every course of study that requires this or a similar module in Switzerland, if it‘s a non mandatory module you have to replace it with something else.
Other main differences are that 1 ECTS here usually equals 30h here and that our grades go from 1 to 6 with 6 being the best and 1 the worst grade. Also university is not completely free here. At my university it is 800.- per Semester (for Swiss students, foreigners pay a bit more).
other than that it sounds pretty similar to how university is here.
ty for all the informative videos!
As someone who also attended university in Germany generally this is pretty good advice! Although it might differ from university to university a bit and also depend on the subject you study. I studied geography and political science and had a huge variety of different classes and exams but overall most of my exams especially in the later semesters were term papers. While term papers can be easier than other exam types sometimes I always felt like in social sciences the expectations on papers are quite high and professors will often treat them like real research papers in terms of standards since that's a big part of your career if you decide to stay in academia. It really depends on the type of person you are and what is easiest to you personally whether your written exam, term paper or presentation is the hardest.
Same in the other humanities and letters
I loved the half a year in 2 lectures... The first math lecture I had, ran through the entirety of math I had in three years of my A-Levels in 1 hour and still had half an hour to begin something new...
If you’re a science student, the lecture-free phase of a semester is also used for experiments in the lab - leaving you with no time for a holiday for all of your studies. If you need to get out for a week, you have to sacrifice the beginning of a new lecture-phase and miss out on things.
I studied Aerospace at TU Berlin and the 30 ECTS per Semester is a dream made up by administrators who have no idea what it means to actually try to study the contents of a course.
I was getting terrible results when doing 5 classes each semester so I started to do 3 courses and a project and, while it takes longer, I now actually understand the concepts behind the subjects I took and feel much more confident in applying them.
Do not feel obligated to actually do 5 courses each semester if you notice you are not actually understanding the concepts. Take your time, get a part time job and aquire some field specific knowledge and enjoy learning again.
What a very good and compact oversight of the German academic education.
I have another advice for deeper understanding and preparation for the lecture free phase. Take just half an hour every evening and write a documentation about your actual studies, in specific what you learned that day, what you finally understood that day, where you have problems. If you have any practical work, like experiments, mock up, proto types, yni, then make photos and sort them into your documentation with date time and content.
This might sound like a lot of additional work, but it will safe you a life time even after your studies.
And it teaches you discipline in self reflection.
I studied EE at the Technical University Munich waaayyy back in the 80ies. At that time, it wasn't even easily possible to get a third try - you had to apply for the third attempt, and within one block of exams, you could fail second tries in only to coures max to be allowed to apply for third attempts. Luckily, that happened to me only once. While waiting (for weeks, I believe) for the exam results, I thought I would jump and scream and dance if I passed. But when I actually did, I only felt huge, silent relief. I wasn't even able to celebrate. I was only happy that my path didn't end there and that I probably would be eventually able to finish my master's degree (Dipl.-Ing., as it wa called back then). Which I did. I wouldn't want to go through that again, but it was worth it.
your are the best man, keep it going
where are your From bro
Interesting factoid: In Austria the same 3 strike rule applies, but you can get 4 exam appointments spread over the study year. 1st End of the lecture period, 2nd End of the lecture free period, 3rd mid in the next lecture period, 4th at the end of the lecture period.
Other than in Germany, you can PICK one appointment without getting an automatic strike by not attending the first or second appointment in Germany. Which I always liked more than the german system where you basically fail the first attempt if you do not show up.
Munich engineer here: 1:43
That’s why we’re the best! 😊
Keep it up, it’s worth it!
That‘s the spirit! ❤
Can you make a video about the embassy interview some of us need to do to when getting our student visa?
Thank you for the really good content!
Did my B. Sc. Physics in 6 Semesters and the workload was absolutely brutal due to the consistent assignments in the lecture periods and the exams in the lecture free periods. Would not recommend doing this, my mental health was not great in the end.
Just started my first semester of physics this year and yes, it definitely is an insane workload, absolutely crazy pace compared to school and so many graded assignments to complete each week... I already realised this is gonna take longer than 6 semesters lol
yeah 6 semesters is brutal. I purposefully took my time and finished in 8 semesters and compared to my peers i think i had to struggle a lot less, given that i was able to reduce my per semester work load. but i was also in the privileged position of not having to rely on bafög.
When you work as working student 12-18ECTS per Semester is more than enought. Dont kill yourself with the workload take your time. It's learning not suffering (ok sometimes it's both). [IT Student in Germany
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You have to do at least 90 ECTS in the first 4 semesters, if you want to keep your BAföG. I did 30 ECTS in Mathematics per semester, which is calculated as a 40 hour week of work. I usually needed 50 hours + 12 hours working at the university, but this is not killing your self especially if you love what you're doing..
@@dietdoubledew8986that train left a long time ago for me lol. I now prefer to study at a slow pace (30 years old). The Bafög Amt is relentless in trying to get their loan back though lol. I just send them proof every year that I’m poor lol.
I studied biology and we had our full day lab courses in the semester free time plus exams. Some lab courses were spread throughout the semester tho but they were the shorter ones, where you would go to morning lecture then lab then evening lectures.
The 3 tries are not for every subjects; universities in Germany are all different and for subjects, it's even more different. For example, in the subjects I studied, you mostly had unlimited tries, but I had to do an exam in Ancient Greek because I studied Latin and for that, you only have 2 tries.
Also, I don't think exams over the "holidays" are bad - if you only have 2 weeks of exams, you typically have to write essays and other stuff during the holidays. Also, I would have preferred to have weeks of preparation for each exam separately instead of sometimes doing several exams on one day.
4:19 i am german and all exams in the Oberstufe are nearly like this expect math and the other mint subjekts
Thank you for your information ❤
Hello Max, thank you for this information 🙏
I study mechanical engineering in RWTH. There are new exams now after Covid. It’s the same exact formula without multiple choice questions however now you can’t gain any extra points from a generally wrong answer because most of the exams are digital exams. There are no written answers what so ever. The questions still require you to do all the explanation and calculations to get the right answer but when it comes down to gaining points you just write a single number or a single word. It’s anal cancer and half my exams are like this. Also the only multiple choice exams I had had around 10 to 8 answers to choose from. Also the multiple choice questions weren’t a repetition of old exams in any way what so ever.
I want to go a bit deeper into the ECTS topic since it can seem a bit intimidating from the description and in reality it does vary from subject to subject.
The official "definition" is 1 ECTS = 30h of time. This does include the lectures(1ECTS = 1 lecture a week) and is usually divided between lectures and study time. So a typical course like math might have 5-6 ETCS split into 2 lectures a week + 3 ECTS self study at home.
The self study time of a subject is usually evaluated with equal (or a bit over) the lecture time. In my experience however this does not really reflect the real effort you have to put into the subject.
There are subjects where if you attend the lectures you need to do very little at home. Especially if you have a good professor.
However for other subjects you need to do more than you might expect from the ECTS requirements (In my experience those were usually engineering classes with lots of exercises and/or laboratory works).
From my experience the overall ECTS load is a bit above the actual time you'll spend.
A small tip I would give new students is to at least visit everything early on, get a feel for the specific workload and finalize your schedule after 1-2 months.
The 3 times thing is only true for some universities. Mostly universities of applied sciences i think. TUM and also LMU i think, to stay in Munich, don't have this restriction.
A Presentation in 15 Minutes? I’ve studied in Germany for over 5 years and no Presentation was less then 30 Minutes. Normally it was more like 45-60 minutes. Alternatively we should prepare a Seminarmeeting with a huge part being a presentation which would last up to 1,5 hours.
Great information thank u ❤
There's been a slightly new change to the "fail your exam 3 times and you're gone" rule. In my university (Bamberg) they changed it to now having infinite tries in any of the given modules. Meaning you can fail from the first semester and repeat it every semester (if the course is available in both WS and SS (winter/summer semester)) until the last semester which is usually the 8th after extension (technically 9, but i'm not sure about that one in depth. apparently it's only for retrying exams?).
I as a Person that got cancer in my University time, I cant tell you, If you are sick for more than 2 semesters, you get fuc*ed by the system.
I had to exmatriculate and dont get any money and would be on the streets if it wasnt for my family. So as dumb as it sounds, have a backup plan, if you do not have fsmily here or have thd money to savd yourself.
For my Physics 1 and Physics 2 exams no cheat sheets were allowed.
All required formulars had to be memorized. In exchange, the questions were not very complex if the underlaying concepts were understood.
Could you make a new video about Ausbildung or university for foreign newcomers? Finding a job and studying can sometimes be tough. I’d appreciate it if you could share your opinion on which one is better: university or Ausbildung. Thanks for considering a new video!
7:25 Open Book exams are a trap though. Since they are technically „easier“ to solve, the questions themselves become harder and you spent unnecessary time looking for the right info which might not even be in there.
Studied economics around 50% before quitting and currently studying CS. The easiest exams have always been the ones where you’re not allowed to bring anything at all except your pen. No calculator, book, cheat sheet etc. sometimes a cheat sheet is even provided.
Completely agree! The more you can bring, the more you're expected to know and the harder the exam!
@@annekekramer3835 Yes! I dread it every time when I see an open book exam because I'm not a preparation kind of guy (like not taking notes inside a book or something like that, I don't like it), then I waste precious time finding info and trying to answer harder question. Meanwhile the most restrictive exams are a breeze, just learn all important stuff in 2 weeks before and you're good.
I am studying Applied Biology and I have basically no free period. I have two parts of exam periods in the lecture free period. This means I basically have some weeks in between free, but sometimes I don’t even have a day free, because I have to study for every exam.
Personally Term papers (the 10-15 pages ones) are actually way harder than the 90 min written example. They are way much more work since they are basically a mini thesis/mini research paper...
You get 5 attempts in some universities like Unibremen.
Servus. I am born in Germany and I study mechanical engineering in the Leibniz University (you showed a picture on 2:13). We have theoretically countless chances for an exam when we collect at least 15 „Leistungspunkte“. I failed some exams but wouldn’t describe them as super hard. I was just ill prepared and lazy during the semester
It seems to me that you are describing here studies at a private university. I went through the same at the University of New York in Prague. We prepared presentations in all courses except for calculus, statistics. I guess studies at a public university are different as private schools have pretty small classes ( 25-30 students). Whereas, public universities can have more than 100 students at once in the same lecture room
It also very much depends on the subject wether graduating in the standard time is often accomplished
4:40 for real...out of all my courses I had to do presentations in 85% of them approximately. Not all of them were graded, but still. I hate them till this day 😂 but they help you enormously in speaking freely and discussing with others. Which is e. g. important later on in oral examinations or in your job life if you want to become a scientist in your field e. g. and you have to present new findings of your research to other colleagues or something like that. Very important in the world of the sciences
I study in Germany and at my University at my subject its common to do a 1,5h presentation 🤓
good that I write in two days Physics Class test
Good luck with that!
I just started my 3rd computer science semester and for some reason there is a huge jump in difficulty. Not that the topics are harder, but we have to do so many projects at once ... last semester was chill conpared to that
At least you have projectsss.. my whole bachelors I had only 2 projects which were only 50% of the grade and rest were just paper based exams that are 100% your grade...
Es gibt noch einen wichtigen Punkt: es gibt viele Hochschulen, an denen es keine Altklausuren zum üben gibt und die Übungsaufgaben sind viel leichter als die Klausuraufgaben. Dadurch wird das Studium künstlich erschwert. Meiner Meinung nach ist ein Studium dann schwer, wenn es wenig Altklausuren zum üben gibt.
Is GPA crucial for employment in Germany? For example, in the US, your GPA plays a significant role to get the job you want. Do German employers pay special attention to the grade you graduated from uni?
It's not the only aspect that counts but having good performance in university is always beneficial
Im no expert but I would guess that good grades in a relevant course are definately good to have, since its just a really easy and solid way to prove that you are interested and proficient in a certain topic.
It's not that important. Having average grades is fine (ideally better than 2.5), unless you'd like to do a PhD, in which case you'd need at least 1.7. For a job, it's your experience that matters more and the language will help.
Of course it's an important factor as a fresh graduate, but once you have some working experience late in your career it becomes less relevant. If you have a subpar GPA you can compensate with internships or relevant working student experiences.
It depends on the subject. With math and physics you'll always find a good paying job but subjects like biology are so flooded with students that you need good grades to impress any future employer since so many have the same qualifications.
yep 3 tries really makes it very hard and depressing for some.......
When I saw the two on my document score on Uni's assistant, I was shocked.
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Did you expect a better or a worse grade? Or what do you mean?
@@guyro3373 probably expected an x out of 100 points system. so like an 80 or 85 maybe?
@@loremipsum-tk2pu We don't usually have a point system in Germany, it's 1, 2, 3, 4 or 5 (with 5 = fail), and some intermediate steps ("1.3" is a "weak 1" or "weak A / A-", "1.7" is a "good 2" or "good B / B+", although it ends at 4.0 ("pass") and then comes "5.0" (fail). So feeling shock on seeing a "two" leaves the question if that person was shocked to receive a "good" grade, or fail to get a "very good" grade...
I assume the person thought they’d get an x/100 score and when they first saw the 2, they thought they had gotten a 2/100…
Fun Fact: I am currently studying at Bielefeld University where you can actually fail as often as you want, but afaik it is a exception.
In Germany we have typical 1-6
In higher high school 1-15 (15 best) and university 1-5
When its 1 to 5 or 6, 1 is the best and 5 or 6 is the worst, when youre in high school its 15 to 0, with 15 being the best
@ exactly that’s what I tried to say; Germany is different and like very school does its own stuff the only things that combine all are the always missing teachers and the hard exams
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Leibniz Uni Mentioned🗣️🗣️
Honestly I found exams to be easier in Germany. In my country there is a bit too much focus on the theory aspects. Here every problem was some practical numerical for the studied material. It was much easier for me to keep up without spending hours cramming definations and stuff.
As someone who is so lazy that he hasn’t learned by himself since 9th grade, this made me realize I could never successfully study at an university
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Im studying engineering at german university and completed most of classes.
The study here is just traumatic 😂
As I was a university student (diploma for technical computer science) I learned following rules:
- when you fail in one class 3 times, you will not get a chance to study any other topics including this class (i.e. when you fail in maths class, you can no longer study physics, computer science or maths even in other universities)
- when you make a small mistake in one question of the exam, the whole question is graded with 0 points
- Very often you get introduced in one different topic each day. Quote "we begin with something essy, a triple integral..." and you will mostly not be fast enough to write everything down and understand at the same time since the board will directly wiped and rewritten again. You have to understand it in the first place or just understand what you have to learn in the free time
- some profs don't care if you participate in the course, some do. In the second case you will get worse grades when you stay at home even if you have very good grades anywhere. They lower the grades more on any small mistakes you do. Other profs are more "grade friendly" but you have to be aware of this
- In most cases when you have "laboratory" (experimental courses) you don't need to do it when the timetable sais it, but also do it on your own when the laborarity room is free and you make your protocols afterwards as long you do not exceed the deadline.
- when you study maths, the lessons of higher maths are more stretched out as you study computer science. The same lessons there for higher maths are stretched into the first semesters. This is why they called technical computer science "the most difficult course of study". We where 500 students in the first semester, but only 12 or so finished it with a dilpoma.
I do not know if this changed since there is no diploma any more but master/bachelor nowadays.
Good luck to all students :)
FYI: EN when = DE wann
DE wenn, falls = EN if
Prüfen kannst du’s indem du „when“ mit „sobald der Zeitpunkt kommt, dass…“ ersetzt. Stimmt der Sinn nicht mehr, dann meinst du wahrscheinlich „if“. ;)
I agree with most of what you've listed, but the zero grade on a question due to a minor mistake is something that is definitely not generally applicable and depends largely on the professor, subject and mistake. This was rather the exception during my CS studies in Germany, not the norm.
It is NOT true that if you fail a class youre not allowed to study any other degree containing that class.
Lets say you study maths and ultimately fail the statistics-class. You are now banned from studying other degrees containing that EXACT statistics-class.
But of course most universities have different topic-layouts for each class. So a statistics class at the university of Berlin might be different topic-wise than a statistics class at the university of Munich. Many students who fail a certain class can still continue their studies at a different facility.
@darkforcekiller This is what they told us. When a class is the same and you failed, you can not restart it in another university. Maybe this changed one day, or it depends on the university. Do consider that the degree (diploma) I made is no longer existent, maybe this also changed? But you are right in that must be exact the same class. Maybe it also depends on the state.
The article I found reads the following:"Noch mal durchgefallen? Jetzt wird es knapp. Wer drei Mal an der Uni durch eine Prüfung fällt, wird exmatrikuliert. Außerdem darf man das eigene Fach an keiner anderen deutschen Uni mehr studieren"
@@gsittly You are banned from the degree no from the class. You change your degree beforehand to circumvent getting banned from studying a degree. Like change fro math to economic math, physics to meteorology, etc. there are many ways to not get banned. So if you already failed two times ask you student union or your study counselor what is the best action to still get a degree which would still be somewhat usable for your career choice. There is so much variety between the Federal States to always get out of this. Do not do a third try unless you addressed your issues thematically or formally.
Me, watching this on my 30min study break. I managed to somehow fail one exam which counts 50/50 with another exam. Now I have to rewrite both of them in the middle of my semester. Dont be like me…
Hi, the discord community link is invalid, can you upload it again if it's available? Anyway, like your video since I am considering Germany for further study.
You rock ! May I know at which uni you're studying now after leaving your previous uni ?
Thanks, I'm studying at University of Applied Sciences in Munich
@@maxyoko best of luck 🤞🏻✔️
He is promoting German universities instead of studying hard enough to pass classes
@@StEvUgnIn nah i didn't see that , i got so much benefits from him ,i was watching him before i come to Germany,now I'm in Germany and i still find his videos very important, awesome guy ✔️
@@StEvUgnIn You sound like my mom haha
Max, I love your contents. I'm very likely to come to Germany for my masters. But as an international student, there's a big problem with getting a visa appointment in my country. It takes more than 22months to get an appointment at the embassy. For that I might have to apply to German university in the winter semester and probably have to defer to the next semester or even the next one. Can you make some content about the university that students can apply to defer semester? Thank you.
Love you Max...
Surely, the ECTS are the same difficulty across all countries?
For example, the same exams have the similar exam papers from TUchemnitz and my irish university. But the irish semester is a lot shorter and you only have one week to complete you exams after teaching finishes. But you can still study the same course in anither university its judt that fees can go from 2k/year to 20k
Studied applied mathematics and computer science in germany. It's hard but doable. Most stressful for me were oral exams in mathematics. That really exposes if you just pushed information down your throat stupidly or if you actually understand and can expand from what you learned. I remember doing up to 10 hours of thinking per day, sometimes 7 days a week in preparation of certain exams. But actually the profs were super supportive if you really showed interest and willingness to gain deep understanding. Nonetheless emotionally draining...
Oh, one thing on the "3 failures and you are out"-thing. A buddy of mine was in a situation like that and was allowed another attempt after some paperwork due to his dire personal situation. But this seems to be only applicable if you have really good reasons that are outside your own influence. So...maybe search for a psychotherapist early on who can help you out in case of emergency (finding specialists who are not booked out for ages can be nightmarish in some parts of germany...)
Hey Max, I just arrived from Mexico to Munich for my Masters at TUM. Any tips you can give me on how to make the most of the uni services and installations?
This is the reasonable system. Check out how it works if you study law in germany😂
bro bitte mach den bass von deinem mic leiser
German uni is so much easier compared to switzerland. I tried both.
Bei welcher Universität studierst du?
how many hours of lectures time would one ect be though?
"As students we are expected to complete 30 credit points". Well, yeah, but this is neither obligatory nor necessary. I personally do about 12 CPs every semester alongside by working student job, and this is how I recommend everyone to proceed. Take your time, enjoy the process, gain work experience and LEARN THE LANGUAGE.
Hello Ibtehaj, I am from Pakistan, Could you please help me out im details? If it doesn't bother you? drop me an email if so, itsmesf1997@gmail.com
Yeah when i studied 20 years ago, we calculated it differently, with 1ECTS being equivalent to 3 hours of work per week. 20 ECTS per Semester were considered the absolute max workload doable. But that was before/during the change from magister/diploma classes to bachelor, so maybe stuff has changed. Or it was because i studied stuff that required you to go on field trips and excavations during the lesson free time, so no time to study or write papers then, except for the papers related to the Trips.
Tl;dr 30 ECTS sounds outragiously much to me. 12 seems like a good amount.
Hello sir,
I hope you’re doing well! My name is Kareem, and I’m currently working as a founding SDE at a startup, specializing in the MERN stack and Next.js, with a focus on web development and some basic mobile development. I have around 8-9 months of internship experience and 6+ months of full-time experience, and I graduated in 2024 with a CGPA of 7.0 (~2.8).
I’m reaching out to get your advice on a decision I’m struggling with. I’m interested in pursuing a master’s degree in Computer Science, possibly in Germany, but I’m not sure if I should continue working full-time for another 1-2 years to gain more experience or apply for a master’s right away.
Could you please help guide me in deciding whether it's better to gain more work experience first or go directly for a master's program? I'd really appreciate your insights!
Thank you so much for your time and guidance.
Best regards,
Kareem
If the exams are too hard, you are too soft, you know!?
Pls tell me can we give speaking test on computer instead of human
I’m studying in another EU country and was ready to hear something shocking, but… it’s not much different, lol
bro some german university requires CEFR certificate in German and English language. and they don't requeires IELTS score. Is it possible get those certificate in India?
Can we do postgraduate programs without thesis?
Can You pls Explain what is FTBA Programme in Germany
for RWTH Aachen University
max, if i choose german standard uni for computerscience then will the questions be in german and should I write the answers of the exam in german language too? or the questions will be in English and we can write in English only?
Most are German only but there are also courses that are only in English
@@robsch21 okay
A standard course will be in German and you will have to show some proof of your German skills before enroling in University.
However, some Universities offer specific degrees completely in English. Look specifically for them.
should i study 11th and 12th in germany?
I'm planning to do that myself
@@UnknownUser6996 oh i see, would you recomend me to do the same
@@Mythichor yes, if you can do that. You will be much better integrated into the system and make friends as well
You can do "studienkolleg" if you want
What is the average cost of these tutors in school? Or are they free?
They are free :)
They are regular lessons that you are supposed to attend. Usually, they are assistants of the professors or older students. I used to do it as a part-time job myself. Great thing to do, you actually learn a lot yourself by tutoring younger students. For STEM subjects, these tutoring lessons are the most important parts of the curriculum, IMHO.
Hello,
I'm currently pursuing a Bachelor of Pharmacy in India,
and Aiming to study Master's program in Germany.
I need help in selecting courses , As there is limited content on TH-cam related to pharmacy master's programs,
I've looked at various websites (daad) but couldn't find relevant pharmacy courses ,
I'm particularly interested in 1.Clinical Data Management, 2.Drug Regulatory Affairs, and 3.Quality Assurance ,
If I choose a combination course, the future will be good.
Could you please provide a list of all Master's courses related to pharmacy in Germany?
Or please create a TH-cam video covering all pharmacy-related master's programs available in Germany. Thank you!
There aren’t any Masters programs in pharmacy in Germany since Pharmacy is only available for state examination so it’s government controlled and not by the universities. There are similar Masters that you can do with a Bachelor’s degree in Pharmacy but not pure Pharmacy
Maybe good to know, many chemistry-related studies require a lot of lab work. If you have no basic lab experience but it is expected because it was an extensive part of the German bachelor's programme you are set up to struggle.
could you please share a question paper ?
Is the semester period 3 months or 4 months?
a semester goes 6 months
@@maxyoko then when is the semester break??
It's usually 11-15 weeks (most often 12-13 weeks) of lectures and the rest is break with exams here and there. In most courses, deadlines will revolve around the first part of the break so you might actually get a bit of holidays afterwards. For example, lots of unis start lectures mid-October now and run until beginning of February. Exams might be in February and you get march off until the new semester starts in April. But the actual dates differ not only between unis but also between seminars because it's the teachers that decide the deadlines.
Hi sir,
I have a doubt . Any public university will accept bsc graduate from India to apply masters in Germany. Thank for your time, I hope for response. Sir
Hi bro,
After I completed my bachelors, I applied to many public universities to do masters. But all I got was rejections. Since studying in Germany was always being by dream, I enrolled in a bachelors course.
So max,I just wanted to know if after my bachelors in Germany can I get job. Or should I need to do masters.
Can a bachelor degree get me a job?
Can you tell us your field of study maybe? Because it depends on that
@@bx1186 I got admission for Bsc Food Technology. Is it a good course?
Max how about the nurses how do they give their exam ? They don’t have multiple choices?
Nurses do not study (in the classical sense) in germany. They make a "Ausbildung". Multiple Choice is not the usual style of exams.
Is it as hard as IGCSE-AL?
How to spend semester breaks in big vs small cities?
By studying for the upcoming exams 😂
Most of my grades in high school at the moment are b+ (when converted from albanian grades to american) Is that good enough to get to a german university?
Of course it is. It's equivalent to a 2 in the German system.
@@randuru danke schön
Bro Try a JEE Advanced exam.
You will then realise what "hard" is
Yeah heard that it's the most difficult exam in the world
As an IT student here in india and one who tryed jee advance, i am confident germany will be a little bit easy for me than others 😅
But heyy , those who try will always achieve higher
@@dhairyavora3201not really
@@dhairyavora3201nimm uns nicht auf die leichte schulter kollege
They are hard because they're written in german
No, they are hard bc they are tough and require a lot of preparation and are packed with material and content
too much bass in your audio :(
What's the requirement TUM University for bacellor
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