I had the weirdest experience. I struggled against Simon's second phase the most. Lax took 3 tries, NP took like 10 tries. Simon kicked my ass for may be 40 tries.
@jeppzonegaming I used +10 Wrench and A tech booster greaves. My play style is to keep distance, boost in and wack em and then fable attack. Simon ranged attack wouldn't let me do that. For NG+ I breezed through everything.
I died more to early game bosses than to laxasia and to nameless puppet so I wondered if they really were the hardest. Until i played new game plus…i think first playthrough nameless puppet needs a damage buff bc hes such a good fight but i just felt like I didn’t need to respect his combos. Ng+ NP felt like a whole new boss
Interesting! I had the opposite experience. Early game bosses were a breeze, but fights from chapter 8 and onwards were really tough for me. I do agree that NP's damage could be a bit higher on a first playthrough, but I still struggled with him a lot.
I just finished my run of the game. I’m going to be honest, I beat every boss either first try or second try, no summons. The only one that took me more than 2 tries was the Swamp Monster boss, which took 5. That thing was annoying. Most of my deaths were from gravity during that final stage.🥴
@@jeppzonegaming thanks.😅 I mean, I’ve played a bunch of souls games over the years and Bloodborne was my first. I think the throwables in this game are just extremely op. But yea, a good bit of it was definitely getting lucky with rng.
I had the same issue with perfect guard despite finishing Sekiro. I think the problem is that in LoP there is a delay to be accounted for in the blocking animation in addition to how the game deals with consecutive parries (frames). If you boot up Sekiro again for testing you will notice how its easier to parry in comparison. I like this idea tho since you can rely more consistently on straight blocking or dodging in LoP, depending in playstyle, while Sekiro demands parrying with the ocasional side step.
Have played until ng+3 and i find manus actually the harder one for me rather than laxasia or nameless puppet lol, it feels like fighting demon of hatred from sekiro it's not mechanically difficult it's just purely annoying that makes it hard to concentrate.
Agree that Simon is harder on NG+ and beyond, and the comparison to DoH is a good one! DoH is one of my favorite fights in Sekiro, but it took many playthroughs for me to realize that. In the beginning I hated DoH. Maybe I'll come to the same realization with Simon, even though I doubt it.
i feel like if you have to ignore an entire aspect of the leveling system for a boss its not that hard and the hardest bosses in the game like puppet simon and the king of puppets positions don't particularly shake because of their point of encounter
Yeah if you just want to rank the bosses in isolation, I guess you could do that. And also no legion arm, no upgraded weapon etc. It would be interesting to see such a list as well!
Is it only me or is the game super easy on the first play through i was beating most bosses 2-4 try but on the second one i really felt every fight was way harder and better imo
For me last puppet boss was way easy than simon(that fucking insta kill debuff) i got it in first try when fight with nameless puppet it was showy but its in the endgame you almost mastered game and it has easy to react combos
That's what's so fun about these lists, people's mileage will always vary! I had a really hard time learning the perfect guard, which is why I struggled so much with Nameless Puppet. I certainly had not mastered the game after my first playthrough 😔
@@jeppzonegaming yes for me simon more harder than most of the people just that fckng insts kill and giant hand for my friend arcbishop was the hardest its just my opinion still it was a good video
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For me, Simon and the nameless puppet just took me 3 tries, but... Laxania... It was more than 40 tries
Laxasia was really hard for me as well!
I had the weirdest experience. I struggled against Simon's second phase the most. Lax took 3 tries, NP took like 10 tries. Simon kicked my ass for may be 40 tries.
Interesting! Simon's second phase is really hard, but I always felt like I could brute force it with a lot of utility
@jeppzonegaming I used +10 Wrench and A tech booster greaves. My play style is to keep distance, boost in and wack em and then fable attack. Simon ranged attack wouldn't let me do that. For NG+ I breezed through everything.
Simon took 3 tries but Lax took me legitimately 12 hours over the course of 3 days cuz of work and family stuff but yeah that chick didn't mess around
I died more to early game bosses than to laxasia and to nameless puppet so I wondered if they really were the hardest. Until i played new game plus…i think first playthrough nameless puppet needs a damage buff bc hes such a good fight but i just felt like I didn’t need to respect his combos. Ng+ NP felt like a whole new boss
Interesting! I had the opposite experience. Early game bosses were a breeze, but fights from chapter 8 and onwards were really tough for me. I do agree that NP's damage could be a bit higher on a first playthrough, but I still struggled with him a lot.
very good list, u're right about the brotherhood, not so simple, not so hard, the best gank fight i've ever seen in a souls like game
Thanks man!
I just finished my run of the game. I’m going to be honest, I beat every boss either first try or second try, no summons. The only one that took me more than 2 tries was the Swamp Monster boss, which took 5. That thing was annoying. Most of my deaths were from gravity during that final stage.🥴
Damn, that's really impressive! Are you experienced with these types of games from before, or just very talented?
@@jeppzonegaming thanks.😅 I mean, I’ve played a bunch of souls games over the years and Bloodborne was my first. I think the throwables in this game are just extremely op. But yea, a good bit of it was definitely getting lucky with rng.
I had the same issue with perfect guard despite finishing Sekiro. I think the problem is that in LoP there is a delay to be accounted for in the blocking animation in addition to how the game deals with consecutive parries (frames). If you boot up Sekiro again for testing you will notice how its easier to parry in comparison. I like this idea tho since you can rely more consistently on straight blocking or dodging in LoP, depending in playstyle, while Sekiro demands parrying with the ocasional side step.
Interesting point! You're definitely right. Parrying in Sekiro is way easier. The combat is great in both games!
I loved the King of puppets :) very funny fight but to easy :/
At NG++ and above simon is hell...laxasia can be parried consist and nameless puppet
But simon is a dirty projectiles machine
I am just about to fight nameless puppet, really excited for the boss to come
Good luck with the nameless puppet! Don't know if there's much to look forward to after him though 😅
@@jeppzonegaming oops miss type XD
@@Blueberry_Koi 😀 did you beat him?
@@jeppzonegaming hh not yet, haven't played yet cause of work, gonna beat him this weekend!
I had the hardest time with the door guardian for some reason shock was infuriating
Yeah shock really sucks!
Have played until ng+3 and i find manus actually the harder one for me rather than laxasia or nameless puppet lol, it feels like fighting demon of hatred from sekiro it's not mechanically difficult it's just purely annoying that makes it hard to concentrate.
Agree that Simon is harder on NG+ and beyond, and the comparison to DoH is a good one! DoH is one of my favorite fights in Sekiro, but it took many playthroughs for me to realize that. In the beginning I hated DoH. Maybe I'll come to the same realization with Simon, even though I doubt it.
i find laxasia harder than nameless puppet, you can spam parry with nameless
Fair point!
Low key the bosses should be based on no leveling up or p organs. Bc builds can make it easier for certain bosses.
i feel like if you have to ignore an entire aspect of the leveling system for a boss its not that hard and the hardest bosses in the game like puppet simon and the king of puppets positions don't particularly shake because of their point of encounter
Yeah if you just want to rank the bosses in isolation, I guess you could do that. And also no legion arm, no upgraded weapon etc. It would be interesting to see such a list as well!
@@jeppzonegaming das your next video
Haha, I just gotta get good enough to beat the bosses without all of that first 😅
This doesn't make sense.
Is it only me or is the game super easy on the first play through i was beating most bosses 2-4 try but on the second one i really felt every fight was way harder and better imo
I heard about others that had similar experiences, yeah! I had the opposite though
For me last puppet boss was way easy than simon(that fucking insta kill debuff) i got it in first try when fight with nameless puppet it was showy but its in the endgame you almost mastered game and it has easy to react combos
That's what's so fun about these lists, people's mileage will always vary! I had a really hard time learning the perfect guard, which is why I struggled so much with Nameless Puppet. I certainly had not mastered the game after my first playthrough 😔
@@jeppzonegaming yes for me simon more harder than most of the people just that fckng insts kill and giant hand for my friend arcbishop was the hardest its just my opinion still it was a good video
@@jeppzonegaming i used perfect guard grindstone i reccommend it if you struggle
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