How to EASILY Solo Flawless Shattered Throne - Arc 3.0 Hunter [Destiny 2]

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  • This video will show you an incredibly easy way to Solo Flawless the Shattered Throne dungeon. The reworked Arcstrider is the strongest Hunter I have ever played, and it makes Solo Flawless runs borderline free with this build.
    I was slightly sick when I recorded the video; apologies for the low energy and somewhat nasally voice.
    Build breakdown video: • Chain Lightning Punche...
    DIM link for this exact loadout: dim.gg/sx4omni/Equipped
    Playlist with all of my Destiny 2 Solo Flawless runs: • Solo Flawless Guides
    Intro & Loadout: 0:00
    Erebus: 0:32
    The Descent: 8:00
    Vorgeth, the Boundless Hunger: 16:52
    Eleusinia: 18:34
    Dûl Incaru, the Eternal Return: 23:18
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  • @stayupthetree
    @stayupthetree ปีที่แล้ว +76

    note to anyone in the future, if you are Amplified running into the Vorgeth encounter, the potential exists for the encounter not to load and you are stuck down at bottom with a forced end to flawless run. Wait at the top for the pop up on the left to indicate you've transitioned.

    • @Dorvarich
      @Dorvarich  ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Thanks for the PSA - I wasn't aware of that one!

    • @steelmoon7698
      @steelmoon7698 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      No need to wipe, just swap to Frost-ee5 and stasis with glacier grenade to get back up. Happened to me once

    • @Dorvarich
      @Dorvarich  ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@steelmoon7698 Actual galaxy brain idea

    • @steelmoon7698
      @steelmoon7698 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Dorvarich haha yup, was going for solo flawless when this happened and my last brain cell kicked in for this idea out of desperation

    • @sirenss
      @sirenss ปีที่แล้ว

      happened to me on my titan run i just put on hoil with glacier nades. (I had no idea why i was softlocked since i had only done the dungeon for the wishender quest and cursebreaker eggs)

  • @theoneandonly9792
    @theoneandonly9792 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This guys voice is so calming, exactly what I imagine a Sherpa to sound like

  • @anthonycole147
    @anthonycole147 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    It brings a tear to my eye to see how far you have come. You finally learned how to read a map.

    • @Dorvarich
      @Dorvarich  ปีที่แล้ว +10

      That's the funny thing - I still don't. I just got lucky this time.

  • @braedongodwin2241
    @braedongodwin2241 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Just used this to help me solo flawless ST, so thx for that. Your videos helped me understand the mechanics of the dungeon, plus gave me the confidence to even attempt them in the first place. And it is astounding how much I have been underestimating my skill. Thx for the guide! 10/10!

    • @Dorvarich
      @Dorvarich  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Congrats on the solo flawless! The first one is always the most difficult because of that mental barrier.

  • @DevilBookWorm
    @DevilBookWorm ปีที่แล้ว

    This helped me so much! I wasnt even trying for flawless, but still helped to get the emblem for the solo run.

  • @PhantomKhrys
    @PhantomKhrys ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you so much for helping me with my first ever solo dungeon! This video helped me like no other and now that ive beat shattered throne im going to beat prophecy next and with your guides i have a feeling its gonna be a breeze

  • @johnwalker4145
    @johnwalker4145 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great run love the break down of each incounter definitely have a subscriber here

  • @aAaRePLaY
    @aAaRePLaY ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Really love these guides the way you explain everything really makes this easy to follow. Just something i noticed if you dont have your special weapon out enemies seem way more likely to drop special. I havent seen this talked about anywhere but when i dont have shotty out i usually get ammo within 1-2 killed enemies.

  • @garydavies9210
    @garydavies9210 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks, haven't managed it flawless yet but did my first solo dungeon after using your loadout and guide.

  • @celest_art
    @celest_art ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you so much for making this video, I'd never do it without you, you're the best!
    You deserve a like, sub and I'm eager to watch your others vid in your channel.
    This build is insane, good job and much love from France !

  • @AA-fm1xc
    @AA-fm1xc ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome content brother! I was able to get my solo flawless duality with your build. Best hunter builds on TH-cam right now. Keep up the great work!!

    • @Dorvarich
      @Dorvarich  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Congrats on the solo flawless Duality! Glad you find my content helpful.

  • @cadd808
    @cadd808 ปีที่แล้ว

    I finally solo’ed it last night. Thanks for your video guide!👍

  • @MorPaz
    @MorPaz ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for this, helped me get the solo flawless first try, and it wasn't even hard. Keep it up!

  • @Xx-mq5xi
    @Xx-mq5xi ปีที่แล้ว

    Best guide my brother! Keep up the good work! ❤

  • @ran93r
    @ran93r ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for these guides, they have been really helpful and this build is a monster. Would absolutely love to see what you can do with a Warlock.

  • @rowplatts
    @rowplatts ปีที่แล้ว +11

    This dungeon is still one of my favourites for the atmosphere but man has it been power crept hard. Went in a few weeks ago with this build and genuinely couldn't believe how fast Vorgeth died to Lament. I remember first soloing this with Void-lock and taking 3 phases on that boss cause of how slow and cautious we had to be back then

    • @infinitedeath1384
      @infinitedeath1384 ปีที่แล้ว

      I remember doing prophecy solo flawlessly for the first time quite a while ago, before void 3.0 dropped. Before we even heard of it I think. It was quite difficult. Now with this build I ran through it.... It felt like a slightly harder strike. Like maybe a hero nightfall at best. Easiest time I ever had running a dungeon, these older dungeons are extremely easy, while the newer ones like duality are made for 3.0 subclasses. I have yet to solo it, because I honestly can't be bothered xD. I killed the first boss then went to do something else, but it felt like a much better challenge in comparison to these old dungeons. Our guardians have grown so much :D. We started with no light, literally, after ghaul slapped us off the tower, and now we're unstoppable. We're infinitely more powerful than we ever were, even after rise of iron released for destiny 1. Btw been playing since 2014 and destiny is my 2nd favourite game of all time.

    • @nightfallDT
      @nightfallDT ปีที่แล้ว

      Exactly my thoughts, down to the subclass choice! (it was probably the best way to solo it back in the day)

  • @guiguilherm159
    @guiguilherm159 ปีที่แล้ว

    ST is my favorite Dungeon, when you showed this build it was the first place I went to test it

  • @calebliuzzo5897
    @calebliuzzo5897 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I tried to do this 10+ times this weekend and this comes out. LETS GO

  • @stevehunt914
    @stevehunt914 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You have SUCH a great broadcast voice!
    i could listen to you read the phone book.
    Thanks so much for making this video, i've found it very helpful!

    • @stevehunt914
      @stevehunt914 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      (turns out,.. not as helpful as i would have liked lol)

  • @sventheterrible7598
    @sventheterrible7598 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just discovered your channel and wow. Insane is all I can say man! Would love for you to put together a Hunter Stasis build please!

  • @dezember1333
    @dezember1333 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you, finally completed my first solo run, not flawless but i will do it in the future

  • @nebezial1
    @nebezial1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    thank you for these videos. thanks to you i have now solo flawlessed every dungeon and even got the duality title, something i never thought i'd go for. it also got me to bug a friend of mine to do the same which he did. keep up the excellent videos, you gained a subscriber :)

    • @Dorvarich
      @Dorvarich  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Congrats on the full set of solo flawless dungeons - that's a huge achievement!

  • @Nova-pn2fo
    @Nova-pn2fo ปีที่แล้ว +1

    managed to do this solo flawless a few days ago first try on warlock :D(went to 1hp on the ogre boss haha), but i love watching these videos so much man keep it up

  • @thedraann
    @thedraann ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dear Dorvarich... Epic series 😁 you've more than in my opinion earned my subscription and likes...
    If you could find the time for titans next I would be happy... But looksl forward to which ever class you choose...
    Keep up the epic vids... I will be sure to be watching

  • @dustyeyeball
    @dustyeyeball ปีที่แล้ว +1

    These videos are a godsend dude. Got my first solo clear of shattered throne and pit yesterday. GoA next. Insta sub

  • @TheOneSeer
    @TheOneSeer ปีที่แล้ว

    @dorvarich I didn't know where else to put this (as you don't have socials) but your series has helped me get the "solo three dungeons flawless" requirement many higher-end clans require. Something I thought was going to be super sweaty.
    The value of an easy build like this is it allows you to learn what you can and can't do in this game. Its let me understand my limits, when to pull out of danger, and when to press for the kill.
    I've learned a lot. Ty.

    • @Dorvarich
      @Dorvarich  ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm glad you found it so helpful! Playing aggressively is incredibly satisfying once you get a good for your limits and what can/can't kill you.

  • @teccam
    @teccam ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks for these. So helpful. I would vote Titan for the next class -- between the HOIL storm grenade spam build, the bonk hammer build with synthos/loreley, and the throwback stasis headstone/diamond lance HOIL build, it's got a pretty versatile and fun kit that suits solo content really well.

  • @markevens
    @markevens ปีที่แล้ว

    This is awesome! I've never solo'ed a dungeon and I almost solo flawlessed this on the first try thanks to you! The only thing that killed me was the boop wall right before the last encounter:( I'll get solo flawless in no time now!

  • @Solo11911
    @Solo11911 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    idk if you'll ever read this but i finished GoA and other dungeons Solo Flawless. Thank you, keep up the good work. Earned my sub for lifetime. GGs.

  • @jasonwattier283
    @jasonwattier283 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just beat the dungeon for first time thanks to this guide. Almost got flawless but tripped up at end when lament wasn’t connecting with the boss.

  • @LukahnTheMan
    @LukahnTheMan ปีที่แล้ว

    11.4k subs dude, you're on your way

  • @TheArmouryHD0
    @TheArmouryHD0 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Now this puts a smile On my face

  • @FilipeProKiller
    @FilipeProKiller ปีที่แล้ว

    Literally just got my solo flawless clear, Thanks man!
    Edit : First try too! This build is just too OP for solo content

  • @stratwalker6131
    @stratwalker6131 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent video. I wasn't trying solo dungeons because of the large amount of time it would take. So I set this built and actually clear the dungeon. Not flawless but I actually did it. I died a few time in the boss room until I realized that I wouldn't need high mobility there so I switch for a higher resilience and that did the trick. I guess I'll be trying Pit next plus trying a flawless run on both later. Really nice videos and explanation of load outs and strategies. Keep it going @Dorvarich

    • @Dorvarich
      @Dorvarich  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah Resilience is definitely the highest priority on every build until the stats get a rebalance.

  • @murtymurtraz7043
    @murtymurtraz7043 ปีที่แล้ว

    love your videos. any chance you will do a simple guide where you go into detail about explaining the gameplay loop, how you keep your abilities up and that type of thing?

    • @Dorvarich
      @Dorvarich  ปีที่แล้ว

      My first ever build video was on this build. Link is in the description!

  • @chaozwolf
    @chaozwolf ปีที่แล้ว +1

    followed his general load out and strats and solo flawlessed my first dungeon on my first try. This guy is the build master at this point.

    • @Dorvarich
      @Dorvarich  ปีที่แล้ว

      Congrats on the solo flawless!

  • @mahoozy_
    @mahoozy_ ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for these amazing guides! Did Duality, Shattered Throne and Prophecy all in one day with your guides! Do you mind if I showcase this build in a video? Will link to your channel of course!

  • @miflouze7687
    @miflouze7687 ปีที่แล้ว

    Merci beaucoup pour cette vidéo 😊

  • @lifeboate
    @lifeboate ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Would love to see you do these on a Titan build!

  • @supt529
    @supt529 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Awesome series, they have been helpful and informative. I would like to see Warlock.

  • @cmdrmeldoc59
    @cmdrmeldoc59 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    For the next videos of flawless runs, I’d personally love to see them done on a Warlock. I personally am loving a Karnstein Armlets build with Heavy Handed and infinite teleporting melees. You just never die. Same thing goes for the Well of Radiance Phoenix Protocol build you showed us. It’s crazy powerful and cleans rooms and well as keep you alive so easily!
    Looking forward to the upcoming content, and thank you for these solo flawless dungeon videos, they’ve been very helpful and entertaining. :)

    • @alexknight81
      @alexknight81 ปีที่แล้ว

      warlock I feel has some variety in builds for flawless runs, for solar (which is the one I have been trying lately) I switch between sunbracers and starfire if I really need the dps.

  • @derito11
    @derito11 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Tip for running this dungeon is to rally a flag on the map before launching it to have full ammo‼️

    • @vogelbert7082
      @vogelbert7082 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Remember the time you did not spawn with full ammo in NFs??
      Getting an Event flag on the harder ones was the first thing to do!

  • @ceegeevibes1335
    @ceegeevibes1335 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    gr8 guides. this is my favorite build since arc 3.0, dare i say the best build in d2. Huge thanks for taking time and doing this guides for us.

  • @MrKillertank
    @MrKillertank ปีที่แล้ว

    What armor sets are you using for the fashion? Loving the drip.

  • @themistdu
    @themistdu ปีที่แล้ว

    Geeez Spent all day making the descent and only once I reached the point of DPSing Vorgeth and I was killied immediatley after. I`m a warlock and I tried with void and solar, bunch of grenades... but seeing this I feel I need more speed 🤔 or go invisible (is that even possible as a warlock?) Haha geez good job!! Pls do it in a warlock! :))

  • @acch0rd
    @acch0rd ปีที่แล้ว

    Speaking of solo flawless dungeon walkthroughs, this series inspired me to do a similar series for warlocks. Spoiler I guess, but the added glaive synergy with Karnstein Armlets makes all of them easier than ever - they even got me through my first solo flawless Duality.

  • @Stressed_N
    @Stressed_N 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I didn’t have a 1 2 punch shotgun but I still flawlessed it I will say that during the ogre encounter be careful of the darts he shoots at you as they really hurt

  • @chaseconner7669
    @chaseconner7669 ปีที่แล้ว

    Titan solo flawless next, with crayon recommendations as well!

  • @MrJimmy2266
    @MrJimmy2266 ปีที่แล้ว

    @dorvarich hey man love the content just wondering what ornaments are you running on your armor

    • @Dorvarich
      @Dorvarich  ปีที่แล้ว

      Helmet: Gilded Memento
      Arms: Grasp of Avarice
      Chest, Legs, Cloak: Epialos Following

  • @helveticafreezes5010
    @helveticafreezes5010 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your void titan build next please!!!

  • @joshriker4173
    @joshriker4173 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Not sure if much has changed since the time of this vid, but running this build when I follow what you did to the champion at the beginning of the Descent encounter, my combo is only taking about 2/3 of the champion's health despite combination blow x3 and one two punch active, whereas you seem to be 3 tapping him. I'm power level 1811 with the artifact bonus included. Do you need to be max power level to do that kind of damage? Running same exact shotgun as you but with major spec mod and the impact stat is like 65 i think

  • @user-sd7ie1zn1r
    @user-sd7ie1zn1r 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    THE POWER CREEP...
    IT'S OVER NINE THOUSSAAAAAAANNNDD!

  • @nickjacobsss
    @nickjacobsss ปีที่แล้ว

    I was shocked how stupid easy this was running it a few days ago with arc hunter. Easiest solo dungeon flawless Ive ever had

    • @Dorvarich
      @Dorvarich  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah I'm not a fan of this dungeon. It's super easy but also needlessly time consuming for how little actual combat it has.

  • @Sam-gy9vj
    @Sam-gy9vj ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi there, love your videos. Do you think this arc build can handle GMs? I know you can breeze masters but GMs man!?

    • @Dorvarich
      @Dorvarich  ปีที่แล้ว

      It handles them beautifully. It's been my go-to for every GM this season except Exodus Crash, where I prefer Wellock.

  • @LuisAlonsoTechArtist
    @LuisAlonsoTechArtist ปีที่แล้ว

    I’ve been loving your videos but this one made me so angry. I got my solo flawless on this dungeon the season it came out, and let me tell you it was incredibly stressful and required so much planning. When the taken mods were removed from the game, I wasn’t sure if I’d be able to do it again. I’m definitely doing this tonight. Thanks fo another great video!

  • @ace422
    @ace422 ปีที่แล้ว

    i remember how i was scared from endgame activities, i dont have any friend to play because i'm from Brasil so, its pretty hard to find other bro addicted to d2, and these endgame activities dont have party system, you need to invite someone, nowadays the 3.0 hunter made possible to me solo something, i'm happy with this, i dont play other classes, dont have tha time and hunter was my first class so i stick with it, bungie really made good thing with 3.0 system

  • @Lilpeep4ever
    @Lilpeep4ever ปีที่แล้ว

    Titan first. I just finish a run on my arc titan grenade build with 10 deaths. Not bad for me. But still was kinda hard with minimal healing and I'd like to see which subclass you use

  • @levintofu
    @levintofu ปีที่แล้ว

    I would suggest arc Titan next only because storm grenades are so strong this season.

  • @msblu713
    @msblu713 ปีที่แล้ว

    💯

  • @bigmediumjon2820
    @bigmediumjon2820 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Are you gonna do the lightfall dungeon in the series when it comes out?

  • @Seylle.
    @Seylle. ปีที่แล้ว

    Are you going to do this series on titan and warlock as well? That’d be pretty cool

    • @Dorvarich
      @Dorvarich  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes I will! And based on the feedback I've been getting, most likely Titan next.

  • @philippnierich1368
    @philippnierich1368 ปีที่แล้ว

    accidently solo-flawlessed the dungeon on 1st try after watching this video (nice!), when all I wanted to know was how to get the wish-ender these days. dont have the quest at the archives in the tower, neither the statue in the dungeon gave it to me.. all i have is 3 uncharged tokens from 2-3 years back when I ran the dungeon but I heard those are not needed anymore :( guess I have to try again and this time put the balls in the statues hands..

    • @philippnierich1368
      @philippnierich1368 ปีที่แล้ว

      nvm, got the bow now. tokens had to be charged + ball statue placement.

  • @BBCsandwich
    @BBCsandwich หลายเดือนก่อน

    On of the two only Dungeons that are easy to solo flawless

  • @oliechan
    @oliechan ปีที่แล้ว

    From my experience you get more special drops if you switch to your non special weapon

  • @NNokTV
    @NNokTV ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I lost my solo flawless when my lament heavy attack went through the final boss and I slammed into the wall and died. Destiny things.

    • @Dorvarich
      @Dorvarich  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ah, the Lament decided you were not strong enough to wield its power. Maybe it'll be nicer the next time

  • @ICE-nr1ti
    @ICE-nr1ti ปีที่แล้ว

    funny because i just did wish ender with the same loadout yesterday

  • @gorillamobster
    @gorillamobster ปีที่แล้ว

    how to turn on closed captions on youtube when I'm streaming need help please

  • @Dame2Kx
    @Dame2Kx 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How do you do those boss combos with lament?

  • @risch2043
    @risch2043 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What are the ornaments you have on your hunter

  • @nathanjacques2268
    @nathanjacques2268 ปีที่แล้ว

    can someone tell me what the names of the transmogged legs, chest, and cloak are?

  • @sun4hire
    @sun4hire ปีที่แล้ว

    i have been dying to get lucent blade fom ada 😭😭

  • @_alhoussein_
    @_alhoussein_ ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Howd you get such an aspect ratio, do you use a UW monitor or ingame changed?

    • @Dorvarich
      @Dorvarich  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I use an ultrawide monitor

    • @_alhoussein_
      @_alhoussein_ ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Dorvarich pretty cool feature, what brand is it if u mind sharing?

    • @Dorvarich
      @Dorvarich  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@_alhoussein_Alienware. They actually make surprisingly good monitors believe it or not

  • @akutch564
    @akutch564 ปีที่แล้ว

    Warlock next please.

  • @Abhinav123able
    @Abhinav123able ปีที่แล้ว

    Can we expect titan next?

  • @absolutebuffoon1679
    @absolutebuffoon1679 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Funny thing is I knew exactly which symbol you meant by “uwu snake”

    • @Dorvarich
      @Dorvarich  ปีที่แล้ว

      SEE? It's a good callout!

  • @erasusdnb
    @erasusdnb ปีที่แล้ว

    whats that shader on scout?

  • @chotokrispy9070
    @chotokrispy9070 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What if i don't have lucent blade mod? is lament still good?

    • @Dorvarich
      @Dorvarich  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes it's still excellent. It'll still be massively overkill for these bosses

  • @ishanhussain5870
    @ishanhussain5870 ปีที่แล้ว

    What is that skin on ur hunter?

  • @icarusfluffybottom899
    @icarusfluffybottom899 ปีที่แล้ว

    Goooooooood grief! I remember soloing this in ye olden days, in the ogre boss room I had to whittle down the wizards' healthbars with a void bow so they were all weak, that way I could manage going around and killing them without exposing myself too much. It was a fucking ORDEAL.
    Now this dude is just hoppin around punching things to death without a care in the world. Oh how the times have changed :p

    • @Dorvarich
      @Dorvarich  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah the power creep has been pretty insane. Even in the almost year and a half that I've been playing the game we've gotten ridiculously stronger, and a lot of older content kind of suffers for it.

  • @jokoti
    @jokoti ปีที่แล้ว

    You should make videos of you in crucible

    • @Dorvarich
      @Dorvarich  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oh no you do NOT want to see me in Crucible

  • @anannoyance4807
    @anannoyance4807 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Does this still work? I can take the knights out but the boss just overpowers the healing from lament
    EDIT: Never mind, my stupid a*s wasn't holding down the block button while attacking

  • @benson5311
    @benson5311 ปีที่แล้ว

    Props for the uwu snakes

  • @goblinthosenutz
    @goblinthosenutz ปีที่แล้ว

    Now do it with solar titan before the nerfs to solar

  • @vauxra
    @vauxra ปีที่แล้ว

    damn i deal no damage to dul incaru sadge

  • @frighty
    @frighty 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I cannot tell you frustrating it is to follow this to a T and get wrecked repeatedly by axion bolts at Vorgeth while damaging.
    Edit: Disregard. I dont follow directions too well I guess.

  • @cub816
    @cub816 ปีที่แล้ว

    Shattered throne is bugged :[

  • @oliechan
    @oliechan ปีที่แล้ว

    69 fish 😂

  • @gorillamobster
    @gorillamobster ปีที่แล้ว

    can you please sir control your bot it is spamming me

    • @Dorvarich
      @Dorvarich  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sorry about the bot - I'm doing everything I can. It seems to be making multiple accounts. I'm blocking them from the channel and reporting them to TH-cam as I see them. Thanks for the heads up!

  • @ballafahlife
    @ballafahlife ปีที่แล้ว

    This video marks the end of a short but amazing era on your channel 🥹 will you be coming back to this when the next dungeon comes out?

    • @Dorvarich
      @Dorvarich  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, and enough people have expressed interest that I'll be doing the existing dungeons again on both other classes! Based on the feedback so far I'll most likely do Titan first.