The aim9L can be flared reliably from rear aspect by most stuff that isn't a Tomcat, but you need to pull very hard together with the flaring, and flare alot.
@@perennialE Most people dont even cut their burner. Not that im complaining for my grind's sake, makes life easier, however it is kinda funny when people scream and complain that their flares dont work when they leave a hot trail with their burner on.
When your top tier is an f-104... Italy kinda suffers anyway, it's not the worst plane but for sure not the best top tier at all, the misiles are great wich kinda saves it, good stuff that you making a video on the forgotten Italy stuff, poor guys, great video as always Ethan, keep up the wonderfull quality content.
Maybe this video was made before the nerf, but the AIM-9L will chase a lit match. Extremely flare hungry now. In terms of performance it still has the best tracking and off-the-rail turn of any of the IR missiles save maybe the R-60M.
The aim 9 Ls and speed make it amazing for blitzing I would say it’s better then the viggen because of the amount of time it takes me to get used to trying to aim with no tracers again
@@amazingjarl7147 haha oh I know it’s hilarious to see them try and make that jet the best in the game it’s my favourite to fly but damn if sometimes I just can get kills but with the 104 asa I could be piss drunk and still pop off
F-104S and subsequent had ECM POD. This pod was so secret that it was not use in NATO exercises. On Wikipedia all performances of war aircrafts are undermatches, for example: F-111 can reach Mach 1.45 at little more than sea level, not “only” Mach 1.2 ; F-104S was supercruise capable. Tornado airframe can supportable Mach 1.6 at little more than sea livel (reached during test of ej200 engine, the eurofighter engine, so probably olso eurofighter can reach that speed at the same altitude..).
I once got like a 7-8km kill with an aim9-L on a guy. I was going mach around 5km alt and he was probably at 6-7km alt. Took about 20-30 seconds for the missile to hit too lol
As far as my experience fighting Aspide-1A's, the total energy they have combined with having the highest max overload of any Fox-1 at 35G (Even though Aim-7F is more maneuverable in many scenarios because of it's 27 degrees of fin angle vs Aspide's 20.7 degrees) makes these missiles rather dangerous, but I wouldn't quite put them at match with Aim-7F. I feel that slot would probably go to the Super 530D carried my M2K. The 6.5 extra seconds of burn time makes those missiles practically impossible to drain of energy at range. I feel the hierarchy for SARH missiles is as follows: 1. Aim-7F - High maneuverability paired with class-leading range and a very high quality seeker. 2. Super 530D - Very long range paired with VERY snappy reflexes and high fin deflection limits. If you're within 12km, it's notch or die 3. R-24R - Class-leading acceleration paired with 24G's overload, 25.2 degrees of fin angle, and a radar seeker that is very resistant to chaff. 4. Aspide-1A - Literally an E-2 sparrow with slightly more burn time, 10G's more overload, and a better seeker. This missile is a demon if you get close in. 5. Aim-7E-2/Skyflash/RB.71 - Pretty standard SARH missile. Nothing really to write home about but also nothing really to complain about other than the shorter legs. Note: Just because a missile isn't at the top or close to the top does not mean they are not lethal. Any one of these shot in a head-on from within 6km is a 90% PK missile. Every SARH on this list is to be respected, but not feared. Additional Note: It appears more and more given the potency of seeker heads and the radars they're tied to on these newer missiles that who has the best missile is more and more dependent on which missile has longer legs. Watch for long burn times or exceedingly high thrust motors as suggestive indicators.
@@perennialE I guess one of the reasons the 530D feels slow is because of the much lower thrust from the sustainer stage (considering it is rather heavy) paired with the very short but powerful booster stage (38KN for 2 seconds --> 15.25KN for 8 seconds. 10 in total). I feel the Aim-7F's have more potential down low for range since they have a motor better suited to it (26.94KN for 4.5 seconds --> 6.34KN for 11 seconds), but at medium to medium high altitudes, the 530D should equal out for ranges of ~16-20K (ballistic coefficient from the 530D's having a much higher end mass, making them more resistant to the effects of drag). As for the 2 second arming time, I never really have a problem with missiles like that, because I don't like to use them at those kinds of super close ranges to begin with. Very risky shot as to whether the missile will even pull in before overshoot. I'd usually just spray a tad of guns and pop flares once or twice.
Really cool video dude, Just one question have you ever played the Ariete? Have a good day and keep doing what You're doing these videos have really good quality
I always seem to be sparrowed by an f14, cant get these cool missile shots where nobody is paying attention. I just end up getting behind someone, launching a missile, it gets flared, i try to run and then they shoot a sparrow at me and I die...
Man I want to get to this BR but it is just an absolute slog trying to grind this stuff. Im halfway to the italian sabre but honestly the 50 cals on all of the rank 5 jets just dont do it for me. Atleast the vampire has 20mm but, you know, its a vampire.
@@perennialE i agree yet i see morons (sorry language) say that we need them because its gonna be balancing the f14 problem. Which i heavily disagree i think its just gonna worsen it even worse kill top tier jets overall. And if gaijin think of adding a premium for 70$ id rather spend that money on buying a plane on dcs lmfao.
Btw, is it required by law to say "join a growing community of active war thunder players" whenever you make a discord server? I've heard that like a hundred times, lmao
The aim9L can be flared reliably from rear aspect by most stuff that isn't a Tomcat, but you need to pull very hard together with the flaring, and flare alot.
@@perennialE That's fair lol
@@perennialE Most people dont even cut their burner.
Not that im complaining for my grind's sake, makes life easier, however it is kinda funny when people scream and complain that their flares dont work when they leave a hot trail with their burner on.
When your top tier is an f-104... Italy kinda suffers anyway, it's not the worst plane but for sure not the best top tier at all, the misiles are great wich kinda saves it, good stuff that you making a video on the forgotten Italy stuff, poor guys, great video as always Ethan, keep up the wonderfull quality content.
You sound like the NileRed of war thunder and I love it, keep up the work
Italy is my main and I regularly play the 104S.ASA
seeing it get love is amazing
6:22 And then there is the J35D; "I hope there are no radars"
Don't worry man, ur not the only one who accidentally crashed whilst watching ur 6. I'm sure everybody who's played near top tier jets has done so
Maybe this video was made before the nerf, but the AIM-9L will chase a lit match. Extremely flare hungry now. In terms of performance it still has the best tracking and off-the-rail turn of any of the IR missiles save maybe the R-60M.
F-104 is so cool looking just becouse its different. Great video!
The aim 9 Ls and speed make it amazing for blitzing I would say it’s better then the viggen because of the amount of time it takes me to get used to trying to aim with no tracers again
better watch what you say
those viggen fanboys are everywhere
@@amazingjarl7147 haha oh I know it’s hilarious to see them try and make that jet the best in the game it’s my favourite to fly but damn if sometimes I just can get kills but with the 104 asa I could be piss drunk and still pop off
@@perennialE I’d hope so the viggen has and always will be my fav jet to look at
F-104S and subsequent had ECM POD. This pod was so secret that it was not use in NATO exercises.
On Wikipedia all performances of war aircrafts are undermatches, for example: F-111 can reach Mach 1.45 at little more than sea level, not “only” Mach 1.2 ;
F-104S was supercruise capable.
Tornado airframe can supportable Mach 1.6 at little more than sea livel (reached during test of ej200 engine, the eurofighter engine, so probably olso eurofighter can reach that speed at the same altitude..).
love the start of the video perfect way to start it.
That notification which appears when it says you uploaded is the best boredom reliever and your videos are a boredom killer.
I once got like a 7-8km kill with an aim9-L on a guy. I was going mach around 5km alt and he was probably at 6-7km alt. Took about 20-30 seconds for the missile to hit too lol
I have no idea of WT avial high tier. I dont own a single plane with a jet engine in it, yet "didnt ask" at 6:20 killed me
As far as my experience fighting Aspide-1A's, the total energy they have combined with having the highest max overload of any Fox-1 at 35G (Even though Aim-7F is more maneuverable in many scenarios because of it's 27 degrees of fin angle vs Aspide's 20.7 degrees) makes these missiles rather dangerous, but I wouldn't quite put them at match with Aim-7F. I feel that slot would probably go to the Super 530D carried my M2K. The 6.5 extra seconds of burn time makes those missiles practically impossible to drain of energy at range.
I feel the hierarchy for SARH missiles is as follows:
1. Aim-7F - High maneuverability paired with class-leading range and a very high quality seeker.
2. Super 530D - Very long range paired with VERY snappy reflexes and high fin deflection limits. If you're within 12km, it's notch or die
3. R-24R - Class-leading acceleration paired with 24G's overload, 25.2 degrees of fin angle, and a radar seeker that is very resistant to chaff.
4. Aspide-1A - Literally an E-2 sparrow with slightly more burn time, 10G's more overload, and a better seeker. This missile is a demon if you get close in.
5. Aim-7E-2/Skyflash/RB.71 - Pretty standard SARH missile. Nothing really to write home about but also nothing really to complain about other than the shorter legs.
Note: Just because a missile isn't at the top or close to the top does not mean they are not lethal. Any one of these shot in a head-on from within 6km is a 90% PK missile. Every SARH on this list is to be respected, but not feared.
Additional Note: It appears more and more given the potency of seeker heads and the radars they're tied to on these newer missiles that who has the best missile is more and more dependent on which missile has longer legs. Watch for long burn times or exceedingly high thrust motors as suggestive indicators.
@@perennialE I guess one of the reasons the 530D feels slow is because of the much lower thrust from the sustainer stage (considering it is rather heavy) paired with the very short but powerful booster stage (38KN for 2 seconds --> 15.25KN for 8 seconds. 10 in total). I feel the Aim-7F's have more potential down low for range since they have a motor better suited to it (26.94KN for 4.5 seconds --> 6.34KN for 11 seconds), but at medium to medium high altitudes, the 530D should equal out for ranges of ~16-20K (ballistic coefficient from the 530D's having a much higher end mass, making them more resistant to the effects of drag).
As for the 2 second arming time, I never really have a problem with missiles like that, because I don't like to use them at those kinds of super close ranges to begin with. Very risky shot as to whether the missile will even pull in before overshoot. I'd usually just spray a tad of guns and pop flares once or twice.
Fun fact, that new top teir MIG has the same speed as the F-104
4th Gen fighters are gonna be a mess, so many premium spammers
Really cool video dude, Just one question have you ever played the Ariete? Have a good day and keep doing what You're doing these videos have really good quality
I always seem to be sparrowed by an f14, cant get these cool missile shots where nobody is paying attention. I just end up getting behind someone, launching a missile, it gets flared, i try to run and then they shoot a sparrow at me and I die...
the only thing iwas focusing on was that f14/f5c spam is decreasing
One of the best fighters in game
cap
Hey did you ever get a chance to fly the AD4 and kill the ju288s on their af?
I justing in surffer with italian top tier, (my first one of planes) and how hard this is xD trying to learn, realli nice video dude ! thank you
So.. still top 5 after mig 29 and f16 run everywhere? :D or at least top mid?
Thx for guide how to play MLD, I can see same strategy apply for the MLD
bruuuuh the mouantain part at 5:37 lmaoooo
you actually CAN take both aspide and m61 with custom loadout it make the plane really good if you take m61 x2 aim9l and x2 aspide
No not anymore. Just tried it. You have to pick the aim block or cannon.
Man I want to get to this BR but it is just an absolute slog trying to grind this stuff. Im halfway to the italian sabre but honestly the 50 cals on all of the rank 5 jets just dont do it for me. Atleast the vampire has 20mm but, you know, its a vampire.
@@perennialE nah man, I just popped 1500% worth of booster and a 300 RP booster and got pilot sniped by midfield. I think im done.
Was this video made when it was 11.3 or 11.0?
11.0
Asspeede?
I mean the f-104 looks like it could be a missle aswell (still like it)
@@perennialE this sounds stupid but what means affinity ^_________^
@@perennialE ok thx bc Google translate also didnt want to help me
Thoughts on the rank 8 addition and rank 7 premiums costing 70usd?
@@perennialE i agree yet i see morons (sorry language) say that we need them because its gonna be balancing the f14 problem. Which i heavily disagree i think its just gonna worsen it even worse kill top tier jets overall. And if gaijin think of adding a premium for 70$ id rather spend that money on buying a plane on dcs lmfao.
Bullshit!! The fastest pencil was my parent's pen when they signed the adoption papers at the hospital. :)
4:09 position relative to the sun
Really gud vid
Opinion on rank 8?
yeap just for cash grab...
5:37 moments before disaster lol
It genuinely gave me a jumpscare xD
Btw, is it required by law to say "join a growing community of active war thunder players" whenever you make a discord server? I've heard that like a hundred times, lmao
really enjoyed this vid
just gained a sub
Just save the AIM-9L as a favorite, you won't loose them.
What does it mean to "not have the authority" to pitch up?
Its just so... So... So long and then the smal Wings (aww so cute ( ꈍᴗꈍ))
Such an epick channel
The F-16 is just now a starfighter but Y’know faster sometimes and more T/W
i love your style!
love this thing
ASA is the easiest top tier to get the good mods
r-24>aim-9L bro u crazy
@@perennialE its better in every way than the aim-9l except for g pull, your not dodging either without flares tho.
that intro makes me cringe so badly
localization error in title; unsubscribed
you kinda have a tiktok accent
honestly when you think about it the f104 could be a good concept if it was faster,
Mach 3 capable starfighter with the SR71's hybrid turboramjet engines