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"The story was told over 3 hours". We want the whole 3 hours, even if it is broken down into logical offerings (not to cut a point while it is still being discussed).
Yoo those Ppl abafundisa nombolo mangase kuthiwa they teaching ezikolen banga produce intelligent learners cz bayayifaka into ngqondwen yomunt and ingasuki
The 28 have their own truth regarding this story, 27 also have their own truth regarding this and 26 are also told different regarding this. Ngeleketyane never slept with a man He Found Nongoloza sleeping with one of Ngeleketyanes soldiers Magubane when asked why he did it he said it's in the Law given by Poll so they Fought bcz He said he is lying. Poll neither confirmed nor denied but rather said to Ngeleketyane go to the mines to see if men are sleeping with each other. This guy is soldier of 26 and a worker of 27 he doesn't know the truth properly..he 70% of it.
Given that its based on oral tradition told from one man's (Mzuzephi Mathebula aka Nongoloza) imagination since the 1800s and cascaded down from one bandit to the next, I think it is obvious that the version we have today is way different to what the first recruits of the Ninevites gangs that Nongoloza iniitially recruited heard
As far as western epistemology goes the story is real, just do some research on the early 1800s gangs Amalaaita, Ninevites and Nongoloza, born Mzuzephi Mathebula, he was a real person who died in what is now called Mpumalanga Province around the 1930s. Google John Steinberg's research on prison number's gang's
It's not hard to realise that this guy is 26. He narration gives credit and it's based mostly on Ngilikijan. We need someone from the 28 camp who's willing to risk his life by telling the story of Nongoloza.😁...I'll be waiting to read the news tomorrow 😁
its true story but this was 27 n mostly us 26 hve another long story and 28 hve another story but this is basic that you grt when you get a number page 1
gold was discovered around 1880s or around there but diamonds were around 1850s gold discovery was one of the causes of the Anglo boer war I think the begging of this story is around 1900
Admin I'm glad nisizwile, with the disclaimer but still!! MAKE A PLAN..., Honestly it's not hard to make subtitles for leshandis otherwise we will end up hearing the same story twice and I doubt that will increase subscribers.....every video should have Subtitles we love your work....MAAK A PLAN BABA........yayibo leyonto🤙🏽 .
History of the number (and also all other gangs) can be explained in one sentence: It started by Satan. John 10 : 10 Satan came to steal, kill and destroy.
Basically (inombolo ewufafa le). If you tell this story to a real 26/27 they will stab you. He is probable telling it wrong on purpose or he was initiated (Thwasiswa) wrongly on purpose. Nongoloza was from Bergville and died in Mamelodi, his grave is there. Ngelekejane was from Eastern Cape. The other was Zulu & another Xhosa. Yes they used to do heists in the mines/trains learning from white guys who use to do this and they did it worse. Nongoloza pulled one of the greatest heist ever in Transvaal and he was caught years later in Durban. Apartheid government in North Transvaal had to employ Nongoloza as a security to tone him down. Ngelekejane & Nongoloza met in a jail in Durban & they ran operations outside. More dangerous inside than outside. These two leaders differed in two views, sex with other men and blood. Nongoloza died a poor man and buried by the state. Ngelekejane I think 5 years back he was still alive his last victim did not kill him instead removed his eyes as revenge, so he couldn't see. Our guy is a good story teller, but his ability to tell us a wrong story so confident and so bold there could be only two things involved he was not fully initiated (Remember you can be arrested for 10 years without being correctly initiated), meaning they gave him a wrong number or he is telling this story wrongly on purpose. Let me give you a clue in 1800 South Africa did not have jails. Shaka Zulu was assassinated in 1828 KwaDukuza. Gold Rush was in the late 1800's and was in it Peak probable in the 1960's. The were no railways or mines in 1800's.
I have many questions than answers; 1. Which Mines were these gentlemen going to during 1800? 2. Was there a formal prison at the time? 3. Why are there so many versions of the same story? 4. There was a mention of a Star in the River, was that some magic moment? 5. How many bloody bodies would be required to chance an entire water from to red? 6. Let me not ask about the tree that flows blood.
I understand you it's the same thing but it depends on which camp is telling the story at that particular moment otherwise whether it's 26, 27 or 28 there is still that link... Am sure you heard the same lines but from the 28s hence you think it's s mixup
As far as western epistemology goes the story is real, just do some research on the early 1800s gangs Amalaaita, Ninevites and Nongoloza, born Mzuzephi Mathebula, he was a real person who died in what is now called Mpumalanga Province around the 1930s. Google John Steinberg's research on prison number's gang's
He's not telling the real story about how inombolo started but I understand, we not part of it so we don't deserve to know the real story...you'll have to be part of inombolo to know the real story about it..luckily my uncle told me about it..
How you know whos right and wrong? Just cause hes your Uncle doesn't mean hes right though......The numbers gang are professional liers so lets watch and let them entertain us.
Honestly, somebody, not him, made up this story to avoid questions. The story is interesting. I have to admit! 🙈 Thoroughly, observe his thumbs when talking and getting deeper and deeper, you'll realize that the number - number culture is really drilled and drummed in their heads. Thumbs up is automatic no matter how hard he tries not to do it. Ai this culture is difficult
There's a believable story on a 90's Numbers Gangs documentary, the story starts with the 1 of the 2 originators mentioned here actually starting to rebel against porvety/oppression by stealing back livestock, you should search for the documentary if it interests you, the rebelion story leads to prison where they rebel against the treatment within there and they are either separated or originally established from different approach with the other resorting to more violence than the other
New number gang members are told this story everytime they are recruited. The story varies from different people but contain similar incidences. Now to admin, please don't deprive us of a wonderful story, upload the whole thing because i realised you kept cuting important content to which he'd come up with confusing stories from cut offs.
As far as western epistemology goes the story is real, just do some research on the early 1800s gangs Amalaaita, Ninevites and Nongoloza, born Mzuzephi Mathebula, he was a real person who died in what is now called Mpumalanga Province around the 1930s. Google John Steinberg's research on prison number's gang's
@@SbongamandlaMaphumulo Mashimane, "Large-scale and profitable mining started with the discovery of a diamond on the banks of the Orange River in 1867 by Erasmus Jacobs and the subsequent discovery and exploitation of the Kimberley pipes a few years later" Wiki
@@izeesh As for 'umsangano ' you don't have to understand it but please respect it if you were to end up in prison - this guy would hold the fate of your life in his hand
As far as western epistemology goes the story is real, just do some research on the early 1800s gangs Amalaaita, Ninevites and Nongoloza, born Mzuzephi Mathebula, he was a real person who died in what is now called Mpumalanga Province around the 1930s. Google John Steinberg's research on prison number's gang's
Given that its based on oral tradition told from one man's (Mzuzephi Mathebula aka Nongoloza) imagination since the 1800s and cascaded down from one bandit to the next, I think it is obvious that the version we have today is way different to what the first recruits of the Ninevites gangs that Nongoloza iniitially recruited heard
Ngcwel'e nge ndabuko aqeda kusipha yona u ngeleketshan....indeed very enlightening.. but was wondering if this was dated back from 19th century. Can't it be that this was a fiction? All characters and the skin are not in any sort of museum or secret place known by o number one lapho bamane beyongqina khona. Maybe this was a way 2 try and create law and order and at the Same time. Keep the so called or labeled criminals in that confinement so as to not go out and enlighten the masses for the revolt ..perfect example why are we here at this video.?
As far as western epistemology goes the story is real, just do some research on the early 1800s gangs Amalaaita, Ninevites and Nongoloza, born Mzuzephi Mathebula, he was a real person who died in what is now called Mpumalanga Province around the 1930s. Google John Steinberg's research on prison number's gang's
Him saying "uyaybo lento" is equivalent to an African American saying "you know what I'm sayin"
"Know what I mean " = "na meen "
Cut this man a big cheque... he’s the best storyteller 👌🏽
😂😂😂
I totally agree
A legend 🐐
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youre telling the truth, yaybo lyonto.
If he doesn't say uyaybo lonto +5 times I'm not gonna like the video lol. Looking forward to when the vid drops.
🤣😂
Appreciate the effort.
🤣🤣🤣5 times within the first 2 minutes
@@lindoradebe8948 😂 my guy never disappoints.
Yaybo leyonto🤣🤣😂😂😂🔥🔥🔥
Key points: 1. Be wary of short men with beard 😂 2. Ucansi really does disarm you 😭. 3. This guy is a brilliant storyteller 👏.
Uyaybona leyonto 🤣🤣🤣
@@nduduzomchunu6932 😂😂😂😂 legendary!
Not even short men. I think he's talking about midgets lmao. Midgets with beards angiti uyayibo leyonto
@@bigblackballs8893 mina bafo ngiyayibona leyonto
😂😂😂
He's such a good story teller...can't wait
Keep pushing bhut wma your past doesn't determine your future
There's gang versions of this story😂😂pun intended 😂
'Yamkhathaza amalung' omzimba, wezwa sengath amadolo ayaxega, neskhali ayesbambe ngesandla sok'phosa SAQATHAKA' 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 chocolates box ayidlali neh? 😂😂😂
Guys don't skip adverts, that's how the TH-cam channels make money please watch adverts for sake of these guys to eat from their true story
But the youtuber is cutting some scenes so...
Admin, please put subtitles. We love the videos.
Eix mfethu , darman kea mokwa mara mongwe a ke mo kusisi 😭😢
"The story was told over 3 hours". We want the whole 3 hours, even if it is broken down into logical offerings (not to cut a point while it is still being discussed).
I agree
I agree with you.👏🏿
History lesson, this guy is good shem. I do hope he gets fully rehabilitated and returns to the community to be a positive influence
Aybo I don't know when I subscribed and hit the bell on this channel, I guess had been curious for so long.
New drinking game, everytime he says uyaybo lonto we take a shot.
Uyayibo lonto
Uzodakwa unye uyaybo leyonto
I’m done, on my 7th 🍷 and I’m only 1:30min
we'd be out before the 5th minute, uyaybo lonto...
Ngeke kulunge😂😂
So interesting. ...more plz
eish these dogs are affecting the sound quality lol... guy is a great story telling ekse... respect big bro may your channel grow
Lol - even the dogs are complaining about the lies!
🤣🤣🤣🤣
😹😹😹😹😹😹they are crying
😁i even felt like this guy was there, big up man
I wonder sizoyi bona kangaki leyonto today 😂😂
There was a guy called Mthoko in the 1800’s 😂
Amanga wodwa lawa
😅😅😅
😂🚮Amangodwa ibloodriver isise mooiriver Ay eNcome😫
I’m sure kukhona okuyiqiniso mbhijane🤣🤣
Uyayazi insumansumane 😂😂😂
Yoo those Ppl abafundisa nombolo mangase kuthiwa they teaching ezikolen banga produce intelligent learners cz bayayifaka into ngqondwen yomunt and ingasuki
The 28 have their own truth regarding this story, 27 also have their own truth regarding this and 26 are also told different regarding this. Ngeleketyane never slept with a man He Found Nongoloza sleeping with one of Ngeleketyanes soldiers Magubane when asked why he did it he said it's in the Law given by Poll so they Fought bcz He said he is lying. Poll neither confirmed nor denied but rather said to Ngeleketyane go to the mines to see if men are sleeping with each other.
This guy is soldier of 26 and a worker of 27 he doesn't know the truth properly..he 70% of it.
No you're talking about the 28 version wena don't say the guy doesn't know what he's talking about. Maybe it's you
This story even made the dogs emotional.
Lol I’m Glad they not Barking Anymore
Given that its based on oral tradition told from one man's (Mzuzephi Mathebula aka Nongoloza) imagination since the 1800s and cascaded down from one bandit to the next, I think it is obvious that the version we have today is way different to what the first recruits of the Ninevites gangs that Nongoloza iniitially recruited heard
We WANT the Whole 3 hour story!!!
That dog got me tripping at 3am
We want the full 3 hour story
Thanks ukusilulela iskhathi yabolento👌👌👌
🤣 🤣
Dogs barking nearby and I was like "hawu! Izinja baf'wetu"
Izinja marora!!
Inganekwane 🔥🔥🔥
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kanti lez'gebengu zifela umsangano onjena!! hawu ngeke 😂😂😂😂😂
As far as western epistemology goes the story is real, just do some research on the early 1800s gangs Amalaaita, Ninevites and Nongoloza, born Mzuzephi Mathebula, he was a real person who died in what is now called Mpumalanga Province around the 1930s. Google John Steinberg's research on prison number's gang's
some people should be writing for Anime, out here wasting scripts.
It's not hard to realise that this guy is 26. He narration gives credit and it's based mostly on Ngilikijan. We need someone from the 28 camp who's willing to risk his life by telling the story of Nongoloza.😁...I'll be waiting to read the news tomorrow 😁
Lol
its true story but this was 27 n mostly us 26 hve another long story and 28 hve another story but this is basic that you grt when you get a number page 1
Probably a 27..
@@jacobmahlaba653 tell us the long 26 version..
Mxm
Do yall remember the tv show on SABC 1 "Ngempela" This guy should join that magogo that narates those stories
Don't explain the subtitles. It's fine. Life isn't fair. Those who don't get it must just try harder to understand. Zulu is not complicated.
Lol yeah tell them
😂😂😂😂
I'm Sotho & I can follow about 80% of what he's saying. I was lucky enough to be raised in a multiethnic community in Soweto 😄
Ke eng “siqu”?
Isigqu refers to a tree trunk
Hope there's subtitles
Number started in 1800 and Shaka Zulu took the throne in 1816…. Yerrr the number is old AF🤣🤣🤣
As far as dates are concerned, I would say they may be inaccurate but gangs did start around discovery of gold in the 1800s
gold was discovered around 1880s or around there
but diamonds were around 1850s
gold discovery was one of the causes of the Anglo boer war
I think the begging of this story is around 1900
It's not 1800 exactly, maybe the mid-1800s or the late 1800s
He repeating hundred times 'uyayibo lonto'😂😂
He wud make a good Pastor coz he has storytelling line up 😆🤣
All the commenters here are watching this from emnyango😂😂
Abantu bemnyango😂😂
Lol siright
Admin I'm glad nisizwile, with the disclaimer but still!! MAKE A PLAN..., Honestly it's not hard to make subtitles for leshandis otherwise we will end up hearing the same story twice and I doubt that will increase subscribers.....every video should have Subtitles we love your work....MAAK A PLAN BABA........yayibo leyonto🤙🏽
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UyaybO leynto kills me cause I can't see nothing
i thought i understood Zulu until i watched this and only understood 10% of the content
🤣🤣🤣🤣
All the time uma beSabela angizwa lutho😂🤞🏾I always look so confused but I think if you know deep Zulu you can kinda understand
History of the number (and also all other gangs) can be explained in one sentence: It started by Satan. John 10 : 10 Satan came to steal, kill and destroy.
It's a pity that he can't speak for himself and you're so sure with hearsay. uwhoa!
This guy is crazy good at telling a story. Haha. He is the most engaging ex-con yet.
Svalo at its purest form,
🤣🤣
"Numbers Gang" on wikipedia... some of the things he says are there
Basically (inombolo ewufafa le). If you tell this story to a real 26/27 they will stab you.
He is probable telling it wrong on purpose or he was initiated (Thwasiswa) wrongly on purpose.
Nongoloza was from Bergville and died in Mamelodi, his grave is there.
Ngelekejane was from Eastern Cape. The other was Zulu & another Xhosa.
Yes they used to do heists in the mines/trains learning from white guys who use to do this and they did it worse. Nongoloza pulled one of the greatest heist ever in Transvaal and he was caught years later in Durban.
Apartheid government in North Transvaal had to employ Nongoloza as a security to tone him down.
Ngelekejane & Nongoloza met in a jail in Durban & they ran operations outside. More dangerous inside than outside. These two leaders differed in two views, sex with other men and blood.
Nongoloza died a poor man and buried by the state. Ngelekejane I think 5 years back he was still alive his last victim did not kill him instead removed his eyes as revenge, so he couldn't see.
Our guy is a good story teller, but his ability to tell us a wrong story so confident and so bold there could be only two things involved he was not fully initiated (Remember you can be arrested for 10 years without being correctly initiated), meaning they gave him a wrong number or he is telling this story wrongly on purpose.
Let me give you a clue in 1800 South Africa did not have jails. Shaka Zulu was assassinated in 1828 KwaDukuza.
Gold Rush was in the late 1800's and was in it Peak probable in the 1960's. The were no railways or mines in 1800's.
Thanks, if you do a video telling the right story, and put a link in this comment section, we will watch it.
There were mines mid 18s stop lying
Mpatha streit jail was the snaiiii
Ayaziwake leyakho
He can write a book
Who came up with this story?
English subtitles or video?
Ngena la 👊 bro.
I have many questions than answers; 1. Which Mines were these gentlemen going to during 1800?
2. Was there a formal prison at the time?
3. Why are there so many versions of the same story?
4. There was a mention of a Star in the River, was that some magic moment?
5. How many bloody bodies would be required to chance an entire water from to red?
6. Let me not ask about the tree that flows blood.
I understand you it's the same thing but it depends on which camp is telling the story at that particular moment otherwise whether it's 26, 27 or 28 there is still that link... Am sure you heard the same lines but from the 28s hence you think it's s mixup
The first mining activity in South Africa took place in 1867 in Kimberly...1/1/2024
I'm here for uyaibona lonto only
This is what I call inganekwane.
It’s all darkness!!!
Iyona straight inganekwane
Iwubulima lento yabo ay
As far as western epistemology goes the story is real, just do some research on the early 1800s gangs Amalaaita, Ninevites and Nongoloza, born Mzuzephi Mathebula, he was a real person who died in what is now called Mpumalanga Province around the 1930s. Google John Steinberg's research on prison number's gang's
@@izeesh Jonny Steinberg's book, 'The Number' tells of totally different story from what this Ndoda is telling us.
😂😂😂
The first mining activity in South Africa took place in Kimberly 1967 after diamond was discovered. Note made on the 1/1/2024
He's not telling the real story about how inombolo started but I understand, we not part of it so we don't deserve to know the real story...you'll have to be part of inombolo to know the real story about it..luckily my uncle told me about it..
How you know whos right and wrong? Just cause hes your Uncle doesn't mean hes right though......The numbers gang are professional liers so lets watch and let them entertain us.
its 50% true thats all il say
Your uncle's nombolo was from 80's or 90's so this guy number is 00's so obviously won't be the same. 2) Depends on, which side of the country you at.
Yaybo lyonto 😂🔥
Honestly, somebody, not him, made up this story to avoid questions. The story is interesting. I have to admit! 🙈
Thoroughly, observe his thumbs when talking and getting deeper and deeper, you'll realize that the number - number culture is really drilled and drummed in their heads.
Thumbs up is automatic no matter how hard he tries not to do it. Ai this culture is difficult
There's a believable story on a 90's Numbers Gangs documentary, the story starts with the 1 of the 2 originators mentioned here actually starting to rebel against porvety/oppression by stealing back livestock, you should search for the documentary if it interests you, the rebelion story leads to prison where they rebel against the treatment within there and they are either separated or originally established from different approach with the other resorting to more violence than the other
i been inside this is a remixed version
The Art of Survival documentary also has a version of a rebellion against oppression.
I'm only here for uyaybon' lonto...👆
New number gang members are told this story everytime they are recruited. The story varies from different people but contain similar incidences. Now to admin, please don't deprive us of a wonderful story, upload the whole thing because i realised you kept cuting important content to which he'd come up with confusing stories from cut offs.
The dog 🐕🐩 is ruining everything 🤣🤣
Amajita akholwa lenganekwane ngempela. Aze ayifele. I give up in humanity!
As far as western epistemology goes the story is real, just do some research on the early 1800s gangs Amalaaita, Ninevites and Nongoloza, born Mzuzephi Mathebula, he was a real person who died in what is now called Mpumalanga Province around the 1930s. Google John Steinberg's research on prison number's gang's
@@izeesh 1900s make more sense to me. My problem was his REFERENCE to 1800s. Gold mines are not that old.
@@SbongamandlaMaphumulo Mashimane, "Large-scale and profitable mining started with the discovery of a diamond on the banks of the Orange River in 1867 by Erasmus Jacobs and the subsequent discovery and exploitation of the Kimberley pipes a few years later" Wiki
@@izeesh
As for 'umsangano '
you don't have to understand it but please respect it
if you were to end up in prison - this guy would hold the fate of your life in his hand
Salute nangempela 👍🌞💰🕯️💎👟⛏️🚬🗡️
👍🏿👍🏿 yessss !
Interesting how these “legends” always involve a mysterious man. Makes me think it might be the devil.
Wey ninginikezani bafethu mina nginguGodoba inkunze mnyama insizwa yangaphandla kuphethe mina la ngaphandle nawu 25 ngiyamphakamisa ngingqisha isihlanu kuqhambuke umthombo obomvu veli Golide kugidleki ndoda mangicofa umshini wam wey angigcali ngempetha zezithipha ezisejele ezingo26,27,28 zibhari kumina Lezo uclever akabanjwa asosboshwa wey 🖐️
i CAN TRANSLATE THIS FOR YALL
Amanga lawa mooi river asikwazi lokho kanti igazi lalowo Nongoloza lalingakanani ligcwala umfula futhi ayikho mpophoma ende kulomfula
Sad though watching people kill cause of such an issue
Unongoloza....ungelekejana....umthoko😅😅😅😅😅😅🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
mthoko also known as magubane
Wafojeli bhilidi elikangako ngeFlat, iFlag likangako ngomugqa obomvu, umugqa obomvu sahluko segazi👍
nangu ufakazi👍
👍layin'
its true. hes not lying
Zulu mythology 😂😂😂
As far as western epistemology goes the story is real, just do some research on the early 1800s gangs Amalaaita, Ninevites and Nongoloza, born Mzuzephi Mathebula, he was a real person who died in what is now called Mpumalanga Province around the 1930s. Google John Steinberg's research on prison number's gang's
Yho! Sounds like those Bible stories of burning bushes
Thank you!!!
2 6 for sho😂😂😂😂
Uyayibona loyonto and uyayizwa leyonto 😅😂 is the word
The story about how the number started is never straightforward. I’m expecting another fairytale here…😒
Lol
Given that its based on oral tradition told from one man's (Mzuzephi Mathebula aka Nongoloza) imagination since the 1800s and cascaded down from one bandit to the next, I think it is obvious that the version we have today is way different to what the first recruits of the Ninevites gangs that Nongoloza iniitially recruited heard
You're right tho, and granted I'm ignorant to it, I do believe it's nuanced AF.... This shit is fascinating to me
@@vonduchamp9561 it’s total BS. This guy says the number started in 1800 😂 when he said that I immediately wrote this story off…
@@mthokozisiskhumbuzo4273 do you have some more valid intel on it?
Ngcwel'e nge ndabuko aqeda kusipha yona u ngeleketshan....indeed very enlightening.. but was wondering if this was dated back from 19th century. Can't it be that this was a fiction? All characters and the skin are not in any sort of museum or secret place known by o number one lapho bamane beyongqina khona. Maybe this was a way 2 try and create law and order and at the Same time. Keep the so called or labeled criminals in that confinement so as to not go out and enlighten the masses for the revolt
..perfect example why are we here at this video.?
Prison in PMB was established in 1862 but bona they met Grey in 1832😂😂😂😂 manga akahlangani
Durban Point Prison and Westville are the ones always mentioned in the history of the Number not New Prison
Subtitles please
Nathi sihlalile kaMosh....inganekwane yakaMeshenti leh😂😂🤞
The only history that is told and accessed by a few😂
into engamanga nje uyibona isaqala 😅
I wish I could hear from a 28's perspective. Enkosi ngolwazi ndoda
Tell him to give you , iziyalo, imbelekejisi, indabuko, imashi neminyaka
Where is Rooiland?
"Uyabona leyonto"
Waysusiy'nkulumo we Ndoda, imfihlo yeynsizwa🤔
Siyabonga.
It’s like he was there hope he’s nt BS us
Asking a 26 gang member to a gang history.. Lomuntu uzonda ama28 ayikho le ayshoyo..
The date is inaccurate , and the story is not exactly as it is on Wikipedia
Uyay'bo leyonto👊😅
Mina angimuzwa yaz lobhiti koda ngyamthanda ..... uthini vele ... ngoba ay mina angiyibambi inombolo
Weeeeee amanga 🤣🤣 sisalandwa ngayo inombolo nje la kule story
As far as western epistemology goes the story is real, just do some research on the early 1800s gangs Amalaaita, Ninevites and Nongoloza, born Mzuzephi Mathebula, he was a real person who died in what is now called Mpumalanga Province around the 1930s. Google John Steinberg's research on prison number's gang's
Where was Shaka when all this ish was happening?
Where was the Zulu King shaka in this story. Where were all the other african kings 🤔😏
Yamkhataza amalunga omzimba🤣🤣🤣
Ay inganekwane le🙆♂️😹
If it was betway I would have bet over 25 (yabo)
aw yizo manelisi lelisosha ngangifunda nalo
Why doesn’t he move like he is holding some peanuts 🥜 ngo left hand?🤣🤣🤣