1963 12 07 The Beatles Juke Box Jury recorded at Empire Theatre Liverpool with David Jacobs
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- The Beatles get to star in a special Juke Box Jury in front of a home crowd in Liverpool.
Songs included are:
I Could Write A Book by The Chants.
Kiss Me Quick Elvis Presley’s
The Hippy Hippy Shake The Swinging Blue Jeans
Did You Have A Happy Birthday? Paul Anka
The Nitty Gritty Song Shirley Ellis
I Can’t Stop Talking About You Steve and Eydie
Do You Really Love Me? Billy Fury
There! I’ve Said It Again Bobby Vinton
Love Hit Me The Orchids
I Think Of You The Merseybeats
I was 8 years old in London and a week before this show we were told the Beatles would be on. At school we all thought girls would be screaming too much. I have always thought this tape was scrubbed but at least there is sound. I have waited 60 years to hear this. Blimey.
It's fascinating that nobody the Beatles reviewed were doing anything but marking time, waiting for a clue. That early 60s period has been unfairly criticized as doldrums. There was a lot of great stuff. But nobody was anticipating the Beatles at all, nobody was working along the same lines of thought, which was why they were so startling to us.
Don't agree.
Others think they couldn't have written such an extensive catalogue; in such a short space of time.
Think about it....
Touring, personal appearances, world tours, recording, movie making, rehearsals.... bla bla bla.
Epstein was a clever man.
George Martin wrote most of their intricate stuff. Especially arrangements, like Eleanor Rigby many more. He even played piano and harpsichord etc.
The rest? They used session men, of the type that USA had; called The Wrecking Crew (Brit version of that)
Beatles were average musicians; highlighted by their live TV appearances in USA.
Terrible indeed but the PR machine was already in motion.
USA had far superior musicians, songwriters, singers.
No wonder Lennon called it "Beatles Myth"
They couldn't read or write music to be so prolific.
@@steffanhoffmann8937 , of course, they couldn't read or write NOTATION, and that's the keyword. There have been great songwriters who couldn't read or write notation. Irving Berlin is the example for all time. I've wondered whether Frank Loesser could read or write notation; he spent the first ten years of his professional career as a lyricist. The same is true of another outstanding talent of that era. The name which comes to mind is Sammy Fain, but I may be wrong about it.
You can find portrait photos of Irving Berlin in which he supposedly is writing notation, but in the photo I remember, his fingers are on the white keys, and everyone agrees that Berlin could play only the black keys.
I can't think of a single songwriter from the 60s who could read and write notation. Rather obviously, Stevie Wonder couldn't.
Writing songs is an act of the imagination, and it isn't fostered in conservatories. Lennon and McCartney had been deadly serious about being the next Leiber/Stoller since they met one another in 1957, and had been working at it since. Both admitted cheerfully that the first hundred or so songs they came up with were crap. But McCartney had had the melody for When I'm 64 since he was 15. Lennon insisted that he had had the melody for I Call Your Name from before he even met McCartney. On TH-cam, probably, you can find audio of a teenaged McCartney trying to write I'll Follow the Sun. All he really has is the line, "I'll follow the sun," with its nice hooky melody.
You're trying to explain genius away.
George Martin said many times that when he met them in 1962, they had virtually nothing which he considered worthwhile. Love Me Do is obviously adolescent junk. But they did take off, then, didn't they? They also had Ask Me Why, which is beautiful, Seventeen, which became I Saw Her Standing There, and The One After 1:09, more Lennon juvenilia.
There was a persistent rumor that all of Irving Berlin's great stuff was written by "a little colored boy up in Harlem." Same kind of nonsense.
For you to argue what you do is for you to announce yourself open to the most lunatic conspiracy theories about all sorts of things.
Lennon's term, "the Beatles myth," has to be taken as another example of Lennon's iconoclasm regarding The Beatles. He loved to put them down. He was probably making a reference to the whole Fab Four moptop silliness. He once said, "You had to humiliate yourself to be what The Beatles were."
@@steffanhoffmann8937 Not being able to read music is not at all unusual in rock. Jimi Hendrix couldn't read music, along with a plethora of other musicians
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@@steffanhoffmann8937so, you are saying that Beatles didn’t write their music and didn’t play on their own records? I wonder where the geniuses are that did write them and play their instruments? George Martin has always been very clear about his involvement and it didn’t involve composing the Beatles tunes. Did you think this up late on night in your bedroom, while you Mum was making you Cocoa?
When I was a very young man I went to a broadcasting of Juke Box Jury. There was no video taping in those days and everything was broadcast live with no delay. One of the panelists was Dusty Springfield. I don't remember which song it was, but David Jacobs said he liked it very much and Dusty Springfield said she did not think it had much to offer, or words to that effect. The show ended and that sweet, kind man David Jacobs tore into her like a savage wolf, right in front of us, the audience. I do not remember his exact words but he screamed something like, "YOU EVER DISAGREE WITH ME AGAIN AND THAT WILL BE THE LAST TIME YOU EVER APPEAR ON TELEVISION." and as soon he had said that he was the nice sweet David Jacobs the nation knew and loved. That is an absolute fact. He was very powerful, just like that nice, kind man Jimmy Savil.
Jacobs didn't like The Beatles cos they didn't suck up to him..
Wow 😮 thanks for the information. It would seem that power goes to everyone’s head.
literally methinks. He truly thought he was a God. @@jrgboy
It truly does. @@w1o2l3f4i5e
Paul McCartney mocking Paul Anka's singing was worth the price of admission!🤪
Unfortunately, The Beatles seem to be suffering from group think peer pressure here and a need to pander to the locals, but it was still interesting to hear them talk about how they feel that their own opinions might be out of synch with the buying public's. Thanks for posting this.
The boys have no business mocking a singer like Anka who lasted for decades , much longer than their 8 years of being for girls .
I saw this live as a child. One of my earliest memories ❤️
All the years I been a Beatle fan and I never heard a Juke Box Jury episode till now thanks for posting
George was right about The Nitty Gritty -- it went to #8 on Billboard Hot 100 in the US.
Bobby Vinton’s There I’ve Said It Again’ is the first record the Beatles knocked out of number 1 with ‘I Want To Hold Your Hand’ in the U.S. on the Billboard Hot 100.
I was there in the Empire theatre I came out with my ears buzzing .. I was with my big brother.
Vinton's version of "There I said it again" topped the Billboard Hot 100 chart on January 4, 1964 and remained there for four weeks. February, Liverpool was a household name.
Although I grew up as a Beatles fan. As an older man I appreciate the wonderful voice of Bobby Vinton. His Blue Velvet is one of my favourite songs.
This was cool. Thanks for posting.
Where the hell did you find this? Well done you!!
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Love and agree to what they say even if it is a blast from the past!! 👍❤🥰😎
Chan Romero toured Australia in 1960 with Jerry Lee Lewis. I wish I could've seen that.
I don't think they wanted to do this programme but their manager wanted to make them more friendly to TV viewers, did it work ... no not really..
This is great, hearing their individual responses to the trashy pop of the day. Who would know what creative genuis they would continue to gift to the world for the following six years.
Some of the songs were awful, but some, like Bobby Vinton's "There, I Said it Again," and the Elvis, Billy Fury, and Swinging Blue Jeans songs were classics.
And Beyond!! 👍❤🥰😎
Add this to the list of Beatle 'we'll never do's, "I don't like those gallop tunes" says John, 6 years later they write Get Back lol, great find tho and you've got to feel for The Orchids, these are real make or break moments for groups, sadly this probably proved the latter for them
It's funny. At one point rehearsing Get Back, Paul tried to pull away from that, saying that it was passe. George is aghast and shocked. "You want to move AWAY from that? Isn't that the SONG?!" George, of course, was right.
Poor Orchids. I burst out laughing at some of the lyrics, but it had a good sound. I liked the harmonies. They said they actually liked the song but that it wouldn't be a hit. John: What a dirty trick. Sorry, I didn't know you were here!😄 [Reminds me of when he started to slam Alma's record on Blind Date before realizing who it was.]
The Chants later became The Real Thing and would have hits in the 70's. They also did backing vocals on David Essex albums .
I saw David Essex ( Cook) and his band at the Festival Theatre Edinburgh ( 4,000 seats) in October 2002, very good indeed, especially " Rock On", " Lamplight," and " Silver Dream Machine," and " Oh What A Circus,," etc.
Good. sound quality
Now the life has been sucked out of pop and rock,especially since the mid 80s by a trail of tuneless wonders and wanabees we can only look back at marvel at the Fabs and their like and 20 years of non stop ingenuity and genius. The 50s werent bad either.
Excellent job! Around 23:00 is the Cliff (Richard?) Song they reference "theme for a dream ?"
So, Kiss me Quick isn't a good Elvis song. Very corporate. He was in a bit of a weird place at this time. So despite the fact that The Beatles (Especially John) were Elvis fans, it makes total sense they didn't like it. Like Paul says, its not Heartbreak Hotel. Kiss me Quick SOUNDS OLD, whereas something like Trying to Get to You doesn't.
One thing I didn't like about the Beatles is there criticism of other artists, especially Elvis ,when the rest of the music world moved on they expected Elvis to still be singing the song of the 50s.
All music is subjective and they never swerved from their preference for early Elvis songs that were a great influence on their music but that didnt make the bad people. Just saying.
They said just the opposite. He was not keeping up with the times. His style was old.
Sixtys waiting for bob dylan to shake it up
And then The Byrds and Jimi Hendrix to shake up Dylan.
Hadn't The Beatles already started it by this point? And Dylan had already released stuff when this appearance was recorded in Dec 1963
Man, I dislike all of those records; so sappy. No rock records.
There generally wasn't in 1963
"The Hippy Hippy Shake"?
Man does not live by rock alone .
Shame the Beatles couldn’t stop themselves trashing Elvis. For the decade as a whole (1960 through 1969) Elvis sold more records than anyone else other than the Beatles. Elvis bookended the 60s with #1 hits…the only artist to do so…
Connie Francis may have sold even more records worldwide than Elvis or the boys during the 1960s .
@@RobertStambaugh-l5r Connie Francis was great - one of only two women singers in the top 10 most charted artists of the 1960s; she ranked 8th. for the decade as a whole in Billboard's Top Pop charts, with Brenda Lee at 4th. (Beatles were first, Elvis second). This was about the same as the Beach Boys and considerably above the other British groups (Rolling Stones (13th.), Dave Clark Five (25th.) and Herman's Hermit's (26th.) A great singer, with much tragedy in her life.
@@rickstapenhurst4019 Worldwide ,Connie may have sold the most during the 60s is what i said in reply , and i know Connie was more popular than Brenda .
Kiss me Quick.....Isn't Elvis.😄😄
Yes it is.
@@attentiondeficitsquirrel7660That's by The Beatles! 😂
@@colindant3410 Kiss Me Quick is Elvis.
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@johnashtone7167 don’t get philosophical about it. He’s saying it’s not Elvis.
I don't like this "we are the Greatest" attitude. Other artists are not as good as we are.
I'm a Beatle Fan from the beginning onwards. Didn"t know about this side of the Beatles.
What do you want them to say? If they don't like a song they're not going to lie about it.
I'd much rather hear an honest opinion than an ass-kissing opinion.
@@CB-xr1eg Those were their ass-kissing opinions. The main reason they liked The Chants is because they were local. Surprised to hear them dissing Billy Fury though.😋
Did each of them have the same opinion on every song? No, they didn't. The Beatles weren't comparing the artists to themselves or claiming they were the greatest.
A more appropriate name for the band would have been THE FOUR JEWS.
Why the racist comment ??
@@jrgboy which part of my comment is racist ?.
Why would you call someone Jewish when everyone knows they are not
Calling a group of non-practicing Christians (George and Paul were lapsed Catholics, John and Ringo had been raised Anglican but didn't take it seriously) who wrote secular songs "The Four Jews" without giving a reason (but presumably because their manager was Jewish) screams racism.
It wouldn't even be appropriate if they actually were Jews. As a matter of fact, I don't understand your comment and its usefulness.