Pressing Concerns - Hydraulic forging press modifications
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ส.ค. 2024
- My hydraulic press doesn't get used as much as it should. Hopefully with this modification to my die setup, it will become more useful.
Dies purchased from Coal Iron Works
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00:00 - Power hammer vs Hydraulic press
02:25 - My press has issues
05:27 - Die upgrade
13:11 - Punching with the new dies
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Good morning to you from the east coast, nothing better to laugh first thing in the morning hearing you talk about, squishy squishy, hopefully you get more use from it other than collecting dust.
On another note I watch another artist’s channel called Thak Ironworks, he does lots of different things if you ever have time check out his YT page.
Love watching all of you forge and create different things, I just started playing in my garage trying to make a dragon out of scraps of copper tubing.
If you have an email for your channel and would like to see any pics, plz let me know, it’s still going to be a few weeks before I’m done with either one. I’m trying to figure out how to get proportions and textures to look good. But both my kids loved what I have done on the first one, have a great day too you and anyone else that reads this.
He does make some very interesting stuff
I just found out you’re from Colorado! Fellow native here! Happy to see that!
Thanks for the video. I hope to add a press to my shop in the future
Being a rookie, trying to come up with some equipment, i found that a press is a whole lot more available than a power hammer, most turn log splitters into presses by simply adding an anvil, in my case, a piece of railroad track with a 1" ×4"×5" plate welded on the end to be the anvil.
Thanks for another good video. I agree, you need to speed that press up some. However, I’d like to clear up one misconception. Horse power alone is not going to speed it up. In hydraulics flow is speed, resistance to flow is pressure and horsepower is force. You need a higher rpm motor for more speed. More horsepower and rpm’s would be best.
Correct, but to achieve higher RPMs requires a 5hp full speed motor to replace the 2 HP slow speed motor currently being used.
I figured you knew what you were doing. I just didn’t want folks out there in video land to think they could get more speed from higher HP.
I also used the Coal Iron design for holding the dies on my DIY hydraulic press. Except that I used taper ended setscrews and I also offset by 1/8 inch the tapered dimple in the die. That way when when I tighten the setscrew, it seats the die to the base. Works great!
I'm ordering one of there 12 ton presses soon with the punch dies. Glad to see a youtube blacksmith I trust reviewing one of their products. Always love your videos
Love watching the success of Coal Iron Works, and made in USA. Their 12 ton press has been on my wish list.
Glad you got the fit-up working for your press John. Thanks for the video.
I got 12 ton press a couple of months ago. Worth every penny! I luv it!
It's interesting to see the different tools different smiths prefer to use. As an example, Kyle Royer only uses a home-built hydraulic and Torbjorn Ahman uses power hammers. Both make nice stuff.
I have the coal Ironworks 12 ton press, and I loooove it!
It's actually only about 9 tons.
Beautiful work as always. Thank you for sharing what you do. 👏👏👏
Great job John, figured that out really good and works great. Thanks for sharing with us. Fred.
Very nice video John. This weeks is very helpful and definitely useful information. Thanks so much John. Can't wait to see more videos soon my friend. Keep up the great craftsmanship and hard work my friend John. Forge on. Keep making. God bless.
Thanks John, I have a 12 ton coal iron press and have been thinking about punch dies. I am amazed how you find new things to do with hydraulic press and how to make do what you want.
Nice mod for the press, works great. Thank you for sharing.
Hi John, nice informative video. Couldn't miss the post drill, nice touch. I just picked up a Canedy Otto post drill, 2 speed spindle, 3 different feed rates, also has a bracket to hold the drills and oil can. Very rare to find one with the accessory bracket. No breaks, or welds, and has the original plank it's mounted on. Sadly no tooling or oil can. 👍🔥⚒
As always, I enjoyed your video John. All I have to do is hook up the hoses and my press is operable. I didn't have punching in mind, but didn't exclude the idea. Again, thanks John for all your wonderful videos.
Great video! Like the different topic on shop equipment.
Big blu presses 27 or 50T are great and very easy to make your own dies for them.
Nice job John, I don’t have a press but do plan on building one at some time!
This was really interesting, thanks for sharing!
When you build a machine from scratch it's really hard to take into consideration all the factors. It looks like a nice piece of fabricobbled equipment. Thanks for the great information and videos.
Great video John 👍
Thanks 👍
Good Morning , John
I can understand why you keep the press around , years ago when I first got my press , I thought that I was moving up to the fast lane, but maybe it's not real fast it does a good job of the things it does ! Great Video ! Thank you for sharing !
Take Care and Be Safe
Fun and informative.. Thank you John!
Good Sunday morning! Very interesting content. Wish I had the space for a press.
I really like your videos. I don’t forge or work with metal but your videos are just done really well and you do a good job making it interesting
Thank you very much!
Excellent info
Excellent video
Another great video.
Thank you, Sir
Thanks for the video, a friend of mine has a bunch of scrap currently with two large hydraulic pumps and one ginormous hydraulic cylinder. Something like 8 inches. Scary. I was doubting it would make a good forging press in terms of being way too slow even on a large pump and also dangerous because i don't think i can make a frame safe at some sort of utterly crazy tonnage that needs more square inches of steel to resist than what can comfortably be welded with a normal size stick machine. Probably gonna take one of the pumps and get a more resonable cylinder from...somehwere. Unless those pumps are fairly low pressure and high flow but i do not think so because the original application was likely slow (sausage press which does not use a screw extruder and instead has a giant armored bin with a 20 inch piston under the meat, weird weird weird piece of gear)
And actually i am now reconsidering using that cylinder. Its there, its free and i have two pumps which both turn out to be single stage and 5hp each and after subtracting the od, the cylinder seems to be more like 6 inches ID. Now i just need to figure out the flow rate of the pumps. Maybe they DID enable high travel speed for cleaning and such and since they are both single stage and were simply connected in parallel, it seems likely that it might all just about work out fine because that is a lot of power on a cylinder smaller than what it looked like when hidden between lots of lines, pumps and junk in the belly of a dark and dirty machine.
This will be interesting what other processes can be sped up. I'm sure you'll think up another die to tryout. 👍
Good Morning ,John
Morning!
Ok, when do we get to see Janet in the shop....
I'll buy your press.
Good forge
great video sir im in the process of building my press may i ask what are your die sizes ? i want to make mine so they can work with the coa l iron works dies thanks your videos are great Mark 👍👍
My old base plates were 4" X 6" The new die holders are set up for 3" X 6". Since the old system had a frame around the plate to hold it in place and the new one doesn't, the new system will actually allow for larger dies.
@@BlackBearForge thank you for replying will help me alot Mark 👍👍
Greetings
What brand of gas forge do you use? I’m needing something bigger than what I got. Thanks in advance
I use a Chili Forge. I have been very happy with their products
Здравствуйте.Какое усилие развивает Ваш пресс?
I’m a knife maker. But in view I guess a lot of your videos and some other blacksmith videos, I believe I’m going to expand more into your realm.
So I have one question. In your opinion which metal type of the medium steels is easiest to move hand forging?
if you're looking for medium carbon steel to forge by hand, I would try 1045. But for most non tool projects, mild steel is more than adequate.
@@BlackBearForge thanks for the reply. I only asked about medium carbon steels because, the one thing I lack since I only make knives is, tooling. I’m going to have to make my own. Chisels, punches, splitters, ect. Also I’d like to try and make a few hammers.
Last night I watched your Shepards Axe video. Very cool. I know a good friend of mine, (he and I have a camp together), who would absolutely love it. It may be a future project as my skills evolve.
Thanks for the reply and all the great content. With TH-cam you can reach thousands or millions of people. I believe you’re more of a mentor and teacher, than you realize. Or maybe you do realize.
I have a question with Forge welding cable I got the cable forge welded together but whenever I tried to take the cable billets and put them together I cannot get them to forge weld not sure what I am doing wrong
There are so many variables that all have to come together that I can't say for sure. But in most cases its either not hot enough or has something contaminating the weld.
@@BlackBearForge thank you John I will go back and re-clean it and try again hope you and your family have a great day
which plans did you build your press to? i've been looking for a reliable set for quite some time
It's not built to any specific plans but is based on the plans from James Batson's book Build Your Own Hydraulic Forging Press
@@BlackBearForge i will certainly have to look into it! thanks!
Hello sir!
I wonder if you have any plans to make a hacksaw frame? I would love to see that, it's not many videos about that on TH-cam.
I hope to at some point
Do you make custom order hammers? If so how would I go about contacting you for an order?
Sorry, I am not doing any work to order these days
Good morning
Morning
"Squishy, squishy..."
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