The First Stand Up Snowmobile - Widescape WS250
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 ก.ค. 2024
- We head over to Petawawa Ontario to check out the @gowidescape WS250 stand up snowmobile with Pete's Sales and Service! It's not a snow bike, its not a snowmobile. It is definitely it's own thing!
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TIMECODES:
0:00 - Intro
0:27 - Explanation
2:05 - Learning How To Ride The Widescape WS250
8:14 - Incorporating Speed and Tighter Trails
10:54 - Wipeout
11:39 - Different View and Off Trail Riding
16:48 - Off Trail Testing
22:55 - Our Final Thoughts
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What do you think? Are you willing to try one?
I would buy one if they weren't so expensive
I think it would be cool with a 800 2 stroke and a 155-163 inch track, it would be unbeatable in the mountains. You could carve in between trees that nothing else could, you have the light weight and you don't have to hop over the seat to change directions. The mountain guys would love this.
Na. Not for me. To much of a work out. Not good for the back and knees.
I rather have a seat ti sit.. waste of money...
Snooter
For sure.
I would call it a motorized Snow Board.
My Chrysler snorunner finally has some competition!
epic machine
Looks like a ton of fun!!
More power Scotty!!
Awesome review, nice to see you guys got some snow out in Ontario. FYI Widescape sells custom-made bark busters ;)
Looks pretty damn fun.
cool invention. I can't help but think that some sort of setup where mountain bike downhill platform pedals were incorporated so you could really use your feet to help steer the bike (as one would do with a mountain bike) would really make this thing go to the next level.
I did Friday at Pete's it's a blast
$6500 for one of these units.... It's out of my budget... But looks very nice... I might spend the 2k+ on my Surron to have this much fun... But with this track.. It looks like it can handle most depths... Nice Machine!!
Yep, this has my curiosity!
Different, eh?
Thank you 😊
You're welcome 😊
Surprised this hadn’t come out a long time ago. Like a jet ski on the snow.
Experienced dirt biker here, have ridden rented snow bikes in CO, the problem with them in powder and at elevation even a 450cc MX bike engine, that would rip your arms off in a dirt bike, feels very put upon. I had that poor 450 pinned and revved out a lot! To be fair I was over 10K elevation and riding in crotch deep powder on a rented machine, which got ridden like a rental!
In contrast, the Polaris 800 powder sled we had along had stupid ski lofting and truly scary scenery blurring effortless power that the elevation and deep conditions seemingly did little to blunt. That twin cylinder snowmobile engine would be violently fast at sea level.
The single ski on a snowbike wanders a lot in hardpack but is great in soft snow as along as you carry more speed than shown in this video, as speed brings stability. I imagine this machine isn't much different. The "wandering" single ski really is no big deal if the rider has any skill at all and they can go fast enough for the ski to "come in" and take a set and work properly. The single ski has traits to deal with, but on the snow bike anyway, it was all part of the fun, but I'm not sure if this machine has adequate power to make all that happen. It did look like it was going pretty good starting at around 4:05 with perhaps a little more in it. Pin it to win it - lemme hammer on that thing, I'll tell ya 😆
Yep, drop a 300cc two stroke 6 speed dirt bike motor in there and this could be extremely interesting. Of course having a 52HP water cooled 2T engine in there would make this expensive, and not sure how the gear shifter would work out either.
Great analogys and comparisons.
In a world where being the "first" at something is next to impossible, this is epic!!! I live in New England, and these would be a giant hit. If the price is right.
No they won't lol ... Snow bikes sure
@@sleigh4019 A "snow bike" kit starts at 8 grand. Thats just the kit. You have to have a bike already, so another 7-10 grand. Now it has to be put together. Most cant do it, so another 2 grand to a mechanic. So, a snow bike, at 20 grand, or a ready to go out of the box "stand up sled", for half that...... Pretty simple to figure it out........
This is the first snowmobile I would ride. I'm always terrified of rolling one on steep terrain and breaking my leg/crushing myself.
Very funny, I would have liked to see the engine and the clutch system.
Needs a 250 2 Stroke!
Looks like it would be awesome for ice fishing.
I think your father-in-law would love this machine lol.
They need a 250 2 stroke and a seat option you need more power. Not fun if it's icy and ruts. Probably same as a snowbike. i would never buy one of these.. Maybe would be fun for your backyard with the kids. You could just as much fun on a 1975 Skidoo Elan with high handle bars as you could with these.
Loved my old elan I ran trap lines in Alaska with back in the late 80's
A 250 mx bike engine would be 10x better than these. They sound like scooters
Stole the words right out of my mouth!!
So you're saying it needs to be a snowmobile.
@@lcdubs7847😂
I bought one a couple months ago It now has 12 hrs of beating the doors off riding , I replaced the stock limit strap with a stronger one after snapping it no issue since. These things are fun definitely get two of them though
Love it! Not wrong, getting two to bring a buddy would be great!
No one ever has real fun by themselves
Looks like it would make for the perfect electric sled. Low to the ground center of gravity and it would be super quiet. Having to stand all the time on the machine means you dont need that much battery power to go the distance people want.
I have a Ruffian SEND-E, 2 seasons now, works great and is super torquey
THIS WILL BE GREAT TO REPLACE THE SMALL ELAN THAT YOU COULD GO ANYWHERE THROUGH THE WOOD HAVING FUN NICE AND LIGHT WEIGHT , BETTER THAN THE WIDE OPEN TRAILS FOR FUN .. YOU CAN/T GET A SMA LL SLED ANYMORE . LIKE THE TUNDRA AND BRAVO TRAPPER LIGHTWEIGHTS .
Very cool. I'd definately try it. I'm probably not the target buyer, but i could see them being fun in the tight bush. Looks like a workout.
You are correct! It's actually such a fun unit. I think people need to give it a shot.
Seems like this would require skill to balance since it's not on wheels. With a motorcycle the laws of physics apply so that you don't need to try to balance since as long as you're going more than 10 miles per hour the bike balances itself, because the rotation of the wheels it wants to stand up. This however doesn't have 2 wheels so those laws of physics, inertia would not apply here.
And yep, there it is at 11:04 the balance is challenging. 😊
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@@MainvilleATV
Ever been on a stand up jet skis lol in 89 lol haven't seenone in 30 years
Looks to be an alternative, but not a primary. In the video it is used in very little snow and not much inclination. For just short transport here and there I can see the value given these must be inexpensive compared to the real deal.
As someone else said I'd also like to see a 2-stroke instead because it could definitely need a bit more ooompff.
Wish they put a 450in it, or 250 2t. Otherwise awesome looking unit, would love to try one
You'd be surprised with the 250 to be honest. Definitely give one a shot!
@@MainvilleATVThat’s awesome to hear, looks like a blast
Can you raise and lower the handle bars?
would be a riot with a twin 440
Be good for early ice fishing bout all id want it for haha
a fromt tire kit for summer would be pretty kewl
3 needed things or see it go away. 1) Bigger motor 400cc at least. 2) More fuel capacity 3hr ride is nothing. 3) A small seat that can be folded up or down. Long rides are going to take out many of your older riders and limit the machine to just in shape younger folks. Older folks have more money! 😉
There was a day when that much snow was considered 'a mild winter'. I'm just curious about the engine, the output and the price-point in CDN $.
I'd love to try one if we had snow. Could you get diesel in the intro?
I feel like the handles are too short! my back would die from bending over slightly the whole time! I hope they are adjustable!
Seriously. Looks super awkward and would get uncomfortable quickly.
Can you change the sled in the front and make it wider?
Looks more like a Snowscooter than a snowmobile!
I 👍 the idea
Better then sitting getting pounded.
But I also prefer to stand while mowing over riding 🤷🏻♂️
There's definitely a niche market for this unit. Wonder how many they will sell at 9k a unit.
Time will tell!
With a lazy 250 motor, probably not a whole lot. I think it would do stellar with something like a 450-600cc powerplant. Or better yet a 300cc two stroke motor.
@@Xeil true, but the problem is the whole thing is about as strong as a mountain bike. so if they went that big on HP they would need a totally different chassis that is more beefy, thus a lot heavier. check out their website. its a very light unit for what it is.
Reminds me of a Chrysler Sno Rabbit, somewhat.
think the front ski should be double the width to give the rider more stability turning and in ruts,, but still cool
Looks like fun. Why did you putt the entire ride? I would have ridden it like I stole it. Just to show what it was capable of?
It's a snow scooter 😂
She does in fact scoot in the snow.
Snow Blade 250 🇨🇦
The cottagers next to us bought 2 of these thinking they were the greatest things in the world we all took them for a ride they are so slow and underpowered as I'm concerned useless. Even the owners were not very impressed. His wife couldn't even ride it no sense of balance. I don't think they have been out since that weekend in early 2022.
It's like you split a mini snowmobile into 2 micro ones.
I wonder if this would be something that can be used to create a groom trail for Fat Bikes. Perhaps make a few passes to (or loops) to flatten (packing) as well as widen a nice trail network for the Fat Bikes to cruise overtop. Anyone out there try this?
I was thinking the same thing. Seems like it would be a great trail groomer for fat bikes!
These are ok fun but prefer timber sled because you can sit
How fast do those things go?
Not entirely sure, I didn't really try. I can say in that heavy wet snow I know I went over 50km/hr.
Looks like fun, I can imagine the price of this unit.😮
$9,000 cad
I saw 47mph, not bad
Grindhard plumbing anyone? 🔥
Please make these with a larger cc motor... at least double it
I would like to see steep Clim compared to snow bike?
Sorry guys, i made one 20 years ago. 250 twin Elan chassis. Single ski up front from a skidoo alpine with wide cover. No seat with gripy truck mudflap and extended steering post. It was fun.
The inventor off this machine started in the 90s. First prototype was a long time before that.
If it’s half a sled, how about a slice?
Sounds like a little predator 224. It needs like big 2stroke... I'm sure this thing isn't very fast.😅
60km an hr.
Looks like fun, but at $7500, I can't see myself buying one. Seems like once you master the balance and control to the point that you could really flog it, the entire bike would quickly become underwhelming. As for being used for transportation in dense areas, this type of activity usually includes cargo or camping gear, and now you are relegated to a proper backpack for even the basics to camp out. In the end, it's a razor scooter for the snow... not much else.
It's like a snoped
Can it tread water?
Yup … right to the bottom 😜
Not sure what I think. I'm inclined to say it looks underpowered and overweight for what it is. BUT, having used to be a skater and teaching my kids to use their scooters, and not actually ever even touching one of these things, I bet this would be pretty fun and actually pretty useful to get around the yard at work or around your property during the winter.. I hope one of my rich friends buys one. LOL!
Is it safe to pet a wawa?
Totally.
Just call it a snow-scoot
Snow razor
There for puttin around. A novelty item for people with money to burn.
almost seem like theyd be legal around town
I'd try one but I can see me pretzeling myself around a tree
Love the honesty haha but I think you'd do fine!
Tell us WHERE it is made?
Quebec.
Your father needs this to check his trap line...
Looks fun but crossing a stream and getting soaked would be no fun.
snow scooters. THANKS.
give us an 800 version :D
Oh man, that would be too wild!
250 two stroke with a seat is literally a snow bike.
Needs 2 skis up front
Great for lumbar pain! Sitting and riding is no fun on hard rides
How about naming it snow doo lol
SnowPed
Looks too cold to ride
Try it out in the dunes
Its a snooter ( snow mobile and scooter)
Snow is a yankee thing, us southern boys don't get to play in it.....often.
Needs a seat and two skis
I dunno boys. I'd really want more than 20HP to haul my 225lbs around the steep powdery Rockies.
Treasure is letting you ride thouse? 😂
Don't understand what you're trying to say?
@@MainvilleATV my bad man. Spell check. It was supposed to say Trudeau is letting you ride thouse? 😂
$8.999.99 I don't think i would spend that for one of these.
Timber scooter 😂
The Sonny Bobo in me says HELL NO!
Not the first. they had these way back. I remember my friends dad had one 30 years ago. I always thought it was like a modern dog sled.
I rather have a snow mobile. It has a seat and is more stable.
Ive seen several videos on these now and the general consensus is that they'll be dead on arrival. Theyre only good for the lake or super shallow snow. Needs way more power.
I own one and I can confirm that you're way off bro! They're a blast in the off-trail, especially through tight trees. And it floats in deep snow. I own a 850 turbo for big mountain days but this is something completely different. LOVE MY WIDESCAPE!
I have seen videos of them in over 3ft of powder and no issues at all.
Electric would be killer!
Yeah you could create an early spring by melting all the snow from your lithium battery fire bomb that is currently happening to thousands of electric bikes AND cars as they self ignite and are nearly impossible to extinguish…… and the media is NOT reporting on The electrification of vehicles IS an enslavement plan which will become clear soon enough and is why you don’t hear about the fraud of this tech. They are already putting remote KILL switches in new cars next year that they have access to operate.
Snowped
Did you try to jump it? You didn’t do any wheelies it looks really boring kinda like a moped. Just my opinion I wanna see some thrill and some danger in my life.
10,000 is to expensive. I believe it would be better as a 2 stroke.
When you consider manufacturing, parts warehousing, overhead, dealer networks, logistics and everyone's profit margins.. you think an MSRP of $8,500 is too expensive? Also, what makes you believe a 2 stroke would be better, would love to hear it.
@@MainvilleATV thank you for replying and sharing this. I am sure everything is more expensive these days. I am a buisness man and a gear head, i get it. I love 2 strokes and the power.
its a snow skooter
You tell him it’s hard riding in his tracks . Then takes off riding across the whole trail back and forth. How about don’t wreck the whole trail for the guy eh
Snow ped
Trials bike? More like snow scooter
Whatever it's a snow scooter
first and last
As soon as it snows a few feet those things aren't going anywhere. They need alot more power for them to be fun . Not everyone has a bunch acres to ride them around on flat ground they will have to be riding in National forests and you need alot of power to ride anything in those places .
Hate to break it to you but they've used them in the Rockies, and they did great. Are they going to compare to a mountain sled, absolutely not but they do great in deep snow.