Yeah that was not a good one. I started laughing when he brought up the fact that several investors hade contacted him to ask how this would effect there stock. Sure bring up money in your apology video thats for sure gonna help the situation.
to echo the words of Koefficient, "Someordinarygamers, Asmongold, & Charlie have talked about the situation, we are 1 Mogul Mail video away from having the 4 horsemen of this drama."
Even Charlie is covering this. Nijisanji is speedrunning their own demise. The yacht is in fact under the water. This company has fumbled so hard that it's kind of hilarious.
Pomu left exactly before the nuke exploded so she definitely saved herself cause she would’ve had to do that stream with Elira and vox because they were the top 3
Never sign a contract that has a clause that says "Upon Termination, you cannot speak of why you were fired or that you ever worked for us." That should be a huge red flag that says that the company is NOT a good company.
@@FuFightersStudioit's a Japanese thing, like most things in Japan, they refuse to change, and keep old laws. That's why Niji JP won't be affected as much, but boy they'll feel the sting once the whole EN crumbles completely.
From my understanding Niji has violated 2 Canadian Laws 2 US Laws and 4 Japanese Legal Laws. Canada's Work Termination Laws [30days notice] and their version of HIPA US [Because her Managers now MRMAN is American so as he managers his laws also apply now which are 1. Violation of NDA and 2 Disclosure of legal documents w/o consent. Japanese Work Laws that were broken was are 1. 30 day notice must be given to all employees on their termination and 2. You cannot terminate employees while they are on medical leave. they also impersonated her while she was in the hospital and on top of all that she could also sue for Defamation and Dishonor in Japanese court if the stuff on the Termination Notice was indeed a lie and she has proof counter to it.
@@bloomleaf8310Actually, under subclause, they legally can't even borrow the asset while said asset is in hospital while their manager is AMERICAN it's UN law
@@cpuirisheart7064 but nothing tied to the selen persona belongs to her it belongs to Niji. so they did not Borrow her asset they were posting from their account. Now if they had done that on the doki account somehow and she had not given them the rights to those then it might hold up not with def not with selen.
The talents don't deserve THIS. I can't bring myself to watch their stuff right now either. But I hope all the innocent talents get better deals from better companies. Cause, atm, I find it hard to beleive Fulgur, Scarle or Rosemi are the problem talents. I also find it difficult to beleive that Vox or Ike are either, as the entire video seemed way too forced, and lacked ANY emotion (even sadness or betrayel), and all three are emotional people. Even Doki's quick vid when she announced her redebut had a tired sadness to it. And, while i hate to admit the possibility, i'm hopeing Elira, Enna and Millie aren't the rpoblems either. Al three are insanely talented, and current evidence points toward two of those three being problems, and all three are close irl friends. Luca is also in hot water if those accusations prove true.
I am also done with Niji. Their talents deserve far better treatment and they should take this chance to leave quietly before it gets even worse for them.
im glad to see that people outside of the vtuber space also talked about the current situation, since it will bring more awareness to other people. Its also a good way to tell that vtubers are also people, that people behind the character and its also as a way to support them and also to see what niji has done behind closed doors. So they basically just nuked themselves. They might try to redo everything, but internet will forever remember
@@lanceman2243 I agree, Charlie, Nux, Mujin, Kwite, Pyro, Mutahar, are less so people who add damage to Nijisanji, they're more so people who spread word of the shitshow to people outside the vtuber bubble. It's kinda' unfortunate that those people outside the space's first taste of the vtuber fandom is drama, but spreading awareness about the by this point beyond proven gross mismanagement and workplace abuse to hold said workplace accountable to the public is always a good thing imo.
Doki : You were the chosen one! You should bring balance to the talents and agency! Not bootlicking the shareholders! Bring the Vtuber into the light, not leave them in the darkness! Kuro : I HATE YOU Doki : You were my friend. I loved you.
@Nuxanor on 16:10 there is a Freudian slip that makes it even more likely that it was management tweeting that message and not Doki/Selen. The message says "I've been in the hospital... and will be staying THERE for a few day" Using "There" instead of "Here" when saying where you are is a minor but extremely common mistake when impersonating someone. Again, nothing that proves anything, since it could be a way Doki/Selen could have said it and it isn't exactly grammatically incorrect, but more than 90% of the time, when someone is saying a similar sentence, they will say "will be staying HERE" if you mean the place you currently are at the moment you are saying it.
No. The Judge from Phoenix Wright. He is naive kind old man who always easily swayed by people's opinion but in the end he always comes out with the RIGHT verdict
I thought the “Message from Nijisanji”video was timed to coincide with Doki’s stream just as a middle finger. The thought it may have been done to make her emotionally unstable enough to slip up and say something that could be used against her in court is just a whole new level of scumbaggery. Like, that is objectively *evil.*
I look forward to the day Doki just posts a smug smile and says "I won". No explanation, no details, just a simple gremlin heh. But we will know and the party will be legendary.
The stream sniping on Neopets where Doki had to react in real time to a slam piece from her former coworkers was what made a lot of the dragoons unreasonably angry and caused worse damage for Nijisanji than any of the other fucked up things they did
9:07 the trigger was not the music video, She had filed a legal notice and got fired 2 hours later. It had nothing to do with not getting permissions. This is from Doki giving details as to why this is happening. It's retaliation.
The things Vox said though, and the way he said it, that guy is a snake. You could not threaten nor pay me to talk about anyone like that, let alone a friend.
@morganhall6459 the tl;dr? He called her a liar and a bad friend, that he was offended she had a recording of him, and that he tried so hard to be a good friend but she scorned him repeatedly. Then, after all of that and notably not apologizing once, he said he hoped she learned from her mistake of TRYING TO KILL HERSELF and grows as a person. It's also coming to light he has a history of all kinds of gaslighting, bullying, etc. Dude is genuine scum.
not surprising coming from the same person who easily threw Reimu under the bus when things went south and more importantly, the same person with a really shady PL @@hawkshot867
I would say that Charlie video is what spread the situation further than the original bubble of vtubing. It more so he contributed in majorly helping destroying the company already declining popularity, than actually destroying it as what he said in the video is what most people have been saying for the past few days, given that they know about the situation well enough.
@@kayschut9327 idk... bored sadists on twitter or 4-chan take simple names and expand the hit list from just the guilty to their whole family tree. It doesn't help that they're in Japan... a place where stalkers, para-socials, fvcked up vigilantes and degenerates are their most talked about crime.
I had a "time" when I was really invested in Vtubers and tried to become one myself. Due to some complications I ditched the idea but was still glued to the vtuber scene, I was very obsessed with hololive for a while then with projekt melody and ironmouse. Then i kinda stopped and just watched whatever was on my feed. Selen's apex video came alot and i enjoyed them but wasn't really that into her as a content creator. This went on for a couple of months until she was the only vtuber i enjoyed watching. The termination and the events surrounding it came to me a really huge shock, and by accident i got recommend a live by Dokibird (her new/old channel) and for the first time ever i watched a whole Livestream. I have to be honest she was legitimately one of the best entertainers i have seen, she was very funny and engaging throughout the whole 3 hours. I cannot understand why they would waste such talent and ruin everything for themselves like that. I really just hope that she can get her footing back and that everything goes well for her. Btw she just started streaming and had set the goal for 500k by the end of the year but she already hit it like a day or two ago so yay doki.
I love that after the "non-neglibable" comment, even the bank Goldman Sachs took a chance to dunk in Nijisanji. The people the internett refer to when they say "Eat the rich" are able to shit all over them.
Hey... when someone else pulls all the public, negative attention, goldman sachs would be stupid to not use that chance. Our national bad egg, Deutsche Bank, would do the same if they had the chance. They did so much shady stuff in the past, they would absolutely jump onto a topic like this.
Blockbuster had plans to expand into the market like Netflix and scale back on stores. Unfortunately during 2008 one of the companies they were working with went under and Blockbuster no longer had the funds or infrastructure as a result, because a large part of the process was provided by that company.
13:00 the leaked dms between Selen and the "manager" all but confirm that's the case. The "manager" says that because the video features some graduated talents it might take some additional time to ok. Which is fucking dumb as shit, and probably just a bullshit excuse to fuck with Selen more.
and their official statement states that it was because of copyright risk hahahaha but aren't they the copyright owner of the IPs of those ex-members as nijisanji hahaha that PR blunder is beyond intern levels of dumb
About the Elira thing. Reportedly, Niji management doesn't have a single English speaker/translator on staff. Elira is the ONLY one who speaks English and Japanese at a sufficient level to communicate between Niji EN and the company itself. WE KNOW WHO THE BULLIES ARE!!
So that means Elira is essentially the messenger between nijisanji and the talents. Every translated message she conveys that undoubtedly has negative stuff will be construed as bullying even if it’s not her words but the companies. But since she is the messenger then she gets shot. Oof. I feel bad for her current position. And since she is living in Japan on a work visa if she even acts out or speaks out a little bit then she’s at risk of being deported
i understand Selen would assume that it's OKAY to post the cover song on her own, why? because it was funded by her own damn pocket. if you spent $200k on your own wallet just to fund your Events and activities, then the cost of that song was barely nothing in exchange for making her fans happy. that's what some other people dont get because they cant even fathom putting themselves on Selen's shoes on that time, most people only care about the 'Drama'.
Kurosanji has something in common with WWE, Walmart , Amazon, most record labels and basically anything that Simon Cowell owns, they've got terrible conditions that basically means you are not human. Point is the terrible mentality is not exclusive to Japanese Idol culture.
I was never really interested in Vtubing much and even less about agencies, but after hearing all the shit that happened to Doki and all the shit Niji is doing as a way to "get rep back" on a daily basis... I just want to see that org burn to the ground.
Good god. I'm such a drama junkie that I'm watching a reaction video to an exposition video on a controversy I've already witnessed directly. What the fuck is wrong with me
Just FYI, Doki confirmed that they wrote the hospital tweet. Also, I'm pretty sure Doki isn't actively pursuing a case against Niji, her lawyer is for her protection because she knew the company would try to bait her so she's making very careful and calculated responses that they can't use against her.
Dragoon soldier -"Sir I have received reports the Yacht is sinking by itself." Captain Dragoon -"Keep going... launch the Moist Critical Nuke." "Nuclear launch detected " Niji EN RIP...............
@@chaty9903 I'm sorry, are we not supposed to boycott the black company that nearly ended her life? That's an absolute and non-negotiable, non-starter for anyone with vaguely pro-labor morals.
@@chaty9903 Harssing people is against Doki's wishes. Sinking the yacht is just boycotting the Niji in any shape or form. Unsubscribe from the channels. If any liver videos pop up in your suggestions mark them as unwanted. And just move on.
@magpiesarebestbirbs8958 Her own discord mods appear to be dim enough to think a boycott constitutes some kind of harassment, when it's a moral imperative at this point. There's no critical thinking present whatsoever.
This is absolutely deplorable and reprehensible, I can't believe this was allowed to go on so long. And the rabbit hole of conspiracies being pushed is just insane, be very careful on the tight rope between falling for conspiracies without proof and into Niji's legal bullying range for sure. Could we just go back and linger a bit more on how future generations will look back on great lore keepers and philosophers and the textbooks will have to mention WeebSh*tter in bold size 16 times new roman?
So if I follow the crumbs, Mysta slipped up about the merch pay, Niji got mad, Mysta lawyers up, Niji allows Mysta to "graduate' instead of getting fired.
That's the worst part of Nijisanji and companies like them; the talent they hire via auditions could likely succeed independently. It would take longer, without the initial clout and vtuber assets that are the only things provided, but that's what the auditions Nijisanji holds are there to test; whether or not these people have the potential to draw viewers. Then, once hired, Nijisanji does everything in its power to beat them into properly shaped cogs attached to the corporate machine. They hammer in the fact that Nijisanjo owns the talent's everything, and they screw the talent over as much as they can get away with.
Don't forget to credit. Without Sayu the main character in this we wouldn't see the truth early! And then our fallen heros like Unnamed, Matara and Kuro now Doki to. Along with the news coverage.. everybody shown what Niji is!
Charlie's video is actually having a pretty big impact, I'm keeping an eye on the Japenese stocks and there are many people bringing up his video, he seems well respected and it's being treated as a big deal that he made a video by many.
BTW a contract that states that you're not allowed to acknowledge that you worked for/with them is almost certainly legally unenforceable even in the US much less the EU and canada, they can restrict certain things but even US worker protection laws prohibit them from this as well as from restricting discussion of what working for them was like.
The three of them "volunteering" to say that crap was Katniss Everdeen going "I volunteer as tribute." at best, and Primrose being initially chosen at worst. Point being, the 'games' and this 'stream' equally need not have existed.
I think these lyrics are perfect fot describing Nijsanji and other companies like it: "Another day older and deeper in debt St. Peter don't you call me, 'cause I can't go I owe my soul to the company store" -Sixteen Tons, Merle Travis
Hey, I just wanna say you are doing something amazing Nux. I don't know much about the behind the scenes of this whole business, I can only imagine how hard this whole thing must be, but also how much fun it can be since you can be as creative as you want. You helping others is something really nice. Good on you, man
i imagine years later when Nux is helping content creators IRL and he shows up in person wearing a custom made Red Fuzzy Coat. and the Copo is like scared knowing that coat
Dammit, I was originally planning to just throw this under the category of "nonsense internet drama" and call it a day. And then you bring all this out.
What is sad is a lot of site that rank vtuber subscribers don't consider nux a vtuber, but only a youtuber they are doing my boy dirty and i won't accept that.
The only reason I can think of why Nijisanji would keep their Vtubers play buttons, is that if a new talent was approached by Nijisanji and didn't know anything about any of this. They can use those play buttons to sway an ignorant potential talent by showing a room or a blank wall littered with those play buttons of their current and past Vtubers, as means to brag about how successful they are and how the *COMPANY* contributed to 100% of their talents success and accolades. That's the only thing I can think of at the top of my head as to why, use the backs of their talents to fan the management and CEOs egos when they didn't do anything. 😒
@@tatsuyahiiragi416 Again, if they didn't know anything about the drama, and let's be real I can see Nijisanji telling a turd of a lie of how their Vtubers let them have them to showcase what they've accomplished, and that new talent can achieve the same thing in order to convince them to sign with them. I do agree that they would have to be the most gullible person to fall for something so obvious but in this day and age where ppl want to become famous or an influencer on the Internet so bad, I really wouldn't be surprised if someone *DID* fall for that. Disappointed...but not surprised.😒
@@RoyG.BivDevoe I don't know much about Vtubers myself (I superfiicially follow clips of shylily and other randoms vtubers at most.) I STILL got to know about this, only three days ago. This thing will reach far... and I'd honestly expect anyone looking to be hired as a talent to research their targets anyway. Due diligence.
@@tatsuyahiiragi416 I hope so too, I'm not too into Vtubers either but I do like Grimmi and Ironmouse, the only reason I even discovered Ironmouse is because she likes Jaboody Dubs. I found out about this whole fiasco with Dokibird through non-Vtubers, Omni and Asmondgold. If ppl who want to be a Vtuber and want to sign with a company I do hope they see this as an example to look for red flags within the company or before signing that contract.
3:50 You know, ive always wondered why I like you're content as much as I do, what give it the spice that stands out. Its this, short, consise, sarcastic summaries that cut through the BS and expose the heart of the issue in a humorous way.
When Internet Jesus casts his stone... oh yeah that ship it be sinking very soon. Charlie be casting that stone like he's skipping rocks and then sunk Nijisanji's ship like the Titanic, their end is nigh.
Here's the thing, they may not have volunteered but they definitely *chose* to say it. They could have refused and threw their supposed friend under the bus instead. What a disgusting thing to do.
Yes. The connection between agencies and the models / characters each person has is somewhat akin to how actors used to be 'out on loan' in Hollywood. The Doors sing about that in Riders on the Storm.
22:08 I’m not gonna discus every single model they make for each member of the company since I honestly don’t know the nitty gritty details of how that works, they may very well own some of the models that they get. But I’m pretty sure that the IP fore the characters themselves are owned by the talents themselves regardless if they had those IPs before joining or not. Take for example Nazuna (I know at this point that’s not the name most know her by but I’m using this name just to easier keep track on who I’m talking about) her model was made specifically for joining the company and when she left she was still the owner of it. Now I definitely agree about the part that they only take in those who only have an existing fanbase. Again, they may own some of the models that are made for them, I don’t know. But the IPs themselves are as far as we’ve seen this far owned by the talents themselves. Btw, not trying to either defend nor attack anyone here. Just trying to based on what I know, which I could be very wrong about, to point to the facts regardless of my feelings to any corpo. If I’m wrong I’m wrong and I’ll admit to it. Sorry for the rambling 😅
Makes me kinda sad that no one ever mentions Yugo when talking about ex-livers…. Yugo and Selen were the reason I even started watching Niji in the first place, both of them getting terminated has been so painful
Have you guys seen the great unifying rrat about Niji? It is crazy but makes kind of sense. If true it explains the apology video, the stream announcement and why Doki was so depressed.
Regarding their stock value, currently as of today 10th of May, its sitting at around 2326, down from 3820 on 5th of February. Expected for it to drop harder when the Q4 investors call happens next month.
"Nijisanji CEO that doing worse apology than Yandere simulator dev" oh god you killing me😂😂
"A cat now Android or something destroyed Niji by revealing the truth leading for months"
He should have brought out the ukulele
Yeah that was not a good one. I started laughing when he brought up the fact that several investors hade contacted him to ask how this would effect there stock. Sure bring up money in your apology video thats for sure gonna help the situation.
to echo the words of Koefficient, "Someordinarygamers, Asmongold, & Charlie have talked about the situation, we are 1 Mogul Mail video away from having the 4 horsemen of this drama."
The council will decide their fate.
@@HybridHenderson and the council has decided death to Nijisanji
@@Senn44sending third nuke now
@@pamelotms5867 Fam…😂
sorry, but Koe is no where near a Mogul. He is so far into the rabbit hole that he is basically one of us
Even Charlie is covering this. Nijisanji is speedrunning their own demise. The yacht is in fact under the water. This company has fumbled so hard that it's kind of hilarious.
And we can thank a certain cat! Sieg Zaion Sasuga Sayu I say!
Also to add on! Like a certain fairy says no matter what..
We. Are. POMU!!
Also
Based Scarle!
The fans from eastern side still support Niji though, most of them agree with Niji action, this won't be enough to takes them down.
Yeah , everyone is. I honnestly have NO idea how you can fail PR that badly.
We need several submarines; the yacht hasn't sunk hard enough.
Make it so the ship isn't even salvageable.
Kyo leaving Nijisanji is like James Bond running away from an explosion at the very last second in a very cinematic way.
Pomu left exactly before the nuke exploded so she definitely saved herself cause she would’ve had to do that stream with Elira and vox because they were the top 3
I really hope Scarle and Rosemi are hiding in a bunker somewhere. Those are the only two I've heard people defend.
@@Lark88Scarle seems she is good, a friend of her did a tweet about how she was doing, so she will be fine.
Scarle aswell because she didnt retweet that one stream and liked a "kurosanji" tweet so shes might be shadowbanned@@Lark88
Meanwhile, Selen managed to escape. However, the blast caught up to her, shredded her skin and she turned a bird.
Never sign a contract that has a clause that says "Upon Termination, you cannot speak of why you were fired or that you ever worked for us." That should be a huge red flag that says that the company is NOT a good company.
Makes a lot of sense. Even Hololive mentions graduated members from time to time. Even the fan base makes games with them. Like this is 100% agreed.
Tbf this is very toxic but in fact the norm in that industry. Should it change? Yes. Is it currently odd? No.
@@FuFightersStudioit's a Japanese thing, like most things in Japan, they refuse to change, and keep old laws. That's why Niji JP won't be affected as much, but boy they'll feel the sting once the whole EN crumbles completely.
@@lizlizbianrosethornswordbunch of Holos are ACTIVE on their PLs.
Remember an NDA can't protect you if you committed a crime, was about to, or is going to.
From my understanding Niji has violated 2 Canadian Laws 2 US Laws and 4 Japanese Legal Laws. Canada's Work Termination Laws [30days notice] and their version of HIPA US [Because her Managers now MRMAN is American so as he managers his laws also apply now which are 1. Violation of NDA and 2 Disclosure of legal documents w/o consent. Japanese Work Laws that were broken was are 1. 30 day notice must be given to all employees on their termination and 2. You cannot terminate employees while they are on medical leave. they also impersonated her while she was in the hospital and on top of all that she could also sue for Defamation and Dishonor in Japanese court if the stuff on the Termination Notice was indeed a lie and she has proof counter to it.
I doubt the impersonation thing would hold up since Niji owns the vtubers likeness so technically she was borrowing the account.
Niji talents aren't considered employees legally.
Holyshit. Anykuro is pretty fucked.
@@bloomleaf8310Actually, under subclause, they legally can't even borrow the asset while said asset is in hospital while their manager is AMERICAN it's UN law
@@cpuirisheart7064 but nothing tied to the selen persona belongs to her it belongs to Niji. so they did not Borrow her asset they were posting from their account. Now if they had done that on the doki account somehow and she had not given them the rights to those then it might hold up not with def not with selen.
Nux: “I called this drama a year ago”
Chat: “pre watched” 😂😂
Nux is the beta tester of life.
Hes a BEATER@@aphrodite7194
Personally I'm done with Nijisanji. Even with the talents I did like watching. I just can't bring myself to give them anymore views.
Same. I gave them many chances as I am absolutely done however I will see if my Niji Oshi goes to a better Agency. If they do..expect tons of support!
You made the right choice.
The talents don't deserve THIS. I can't bring myself to watch their stuff right now either. But I hope all the innocent talents get better deals from better companies. Cause, atm, I find it hard to beleive Fulgur, Scarle or Rosemi are the problem talents. I also find it difficult to beleive that Vox or Ike are either, as the entire video seemed way too forced, and lacked ANY emotion (even sadness or betrayel), and all three are emotional people. Even Doki's quick vid when she announced her redebut had a tired sadness to it. And, while i hate to admit the possibility, i'm hopeing Elira, Enna and Millie aren't the rpoblems either. Al three are insanely talented, and current evidence points toward two of those three being problems, and all three are close irl friends. Luca is also in hot water if those accusations prove true.
I only like one nijisanji after suzuhara lulu left.
I am also done with Niji. Their talents deserve far better treatment and they should take this chance to leave quietly before it gets even worse for them.
Charlie didn't destroy Nijisanji. Nijisanji destroyed Nijisanji. They've shot their foot clean off by constantly attacking Selen.
Charlie's more of a dps multiplier
im glad to see that people outside of the vtuber space also talked about the current situation, since it will bring more awareness to other people. Its also a good way to tell that vtubers are also people, that people behind the character and its also as a way to support them and also to see what niji has done behind closed doors. So they basically just nuked themselves. They might try to redo everything, but internet will forever remember
@@lanceman2243 I agree, Charlie, Nux, Mujin, Kwite, Pyro, Mutahar, are less so people who add damage to Nijisanji, they're more so people who spread word of the shitshow to people outside the vtuber bubble. It's kinda' unfortunate that those people outside the space's first taste of the vtuber fandom is drama, but spreading awareness about the by this point beyond proven gross mismanagement and workplace abuse to hold said workplace accountable to the public is always a good thing imo.
Supplemental damage
Was just about to say this. Charlie definitely added fuel to the fire, but that's like poking your finger into a fucking stab wound.
Nijisanji: You turned them against me!
Doki wan kenobi: you have done that yourself
Nijisanji: “You underestimate my power!”
Dokibird fanbase: “Don’t try it.”
Doki : You were the chosen one! You should bring balance to the talents and agency! Not bootlicking the shareholders! Bring the Vtuber into the light, not leave them in the darkness!
Kuro : I HATE YOU
Doki : You were my friend. I loved you.
I am so disappointed that you didn't use Nijikin or Nijisanjikin
I find it hilarious how many times Nux has called something and people thought he was talking out his butt, only for him to be proven right
Sayu is the same as well. Well kinda. But finally after many months Sayu was proven right to many.
And when he’s wrong he admits it. Others act like they never said it.
I don't watch Nux consistently, Can I get a list of stuff he's called?
He called me handsome. No one believed him. And he is wrong😢
@@sambuddy4465 Big F buddy.
@Nuxanor on 16:10 there is a Freudian slip that makes it even more likely that it was management tweeting that message and not Doki/Selen.
The message says "I've been in the hospital... and will be staying THERE for a few day"
Using "There" instead of "Here" when saying where you are is a minor but extremely common mistake when impersonating someone.
Again, nothing that proves anything, since it could be a way Doki/Selen could have said it and it isn't exactly grammatically incorrect, but more than 90% of the time, when someone is saying a similar sentence, they will say "will be staying HERE" if you mean the place you currently are at the moment you are saying it.
Moist is the final judger of any internet dram, once he talks, its over
Judge.
The final judge.
No. The Judge from Phoenix Wright. He is naive kind old man who always easily swayed by people's opinion but in the end he always comes out with the RIGHT verdict
I mean he is florida jesus after all.
the Oldest View himself.
(it's an analog horror reference for those who don't know lol)
Most of the time he gave good judgement but not always.
I’ll be honest, Penguinz0 didn’t destroy Nijisanji, Nijisanji destroyed Nijisanji, he just put the nail in their coffin
I am here for the sinking of the yacht
All hail Sayu! Many may deny it but she is the one that started it all! Sayu! She is always right! Sieg Zaion!!
Don't forget Sayu to! People may hate her but there is no denying without her we maybe still blinded from the truth! Sieg Zaion LanZa!
I thought the “Message from Nijisanji”video was timed to coincide with Doki’s stream just as a middle finger.
The thought it may have been done to make her emotionally unstable enough to slip up and say something that could be used against her in court is just a whole new level of scumbaggery. Like, that is objectively *evil.*
Fr, but I’m glad she held her ground and kept her composure even though you could her the heart break in her voice
but she kept her composure, and kurosanji made an even bigger ass of themselves. another day another victory for the doki 😎
They weren't even trying to goad her into a mistake. it was just straight up spite.
@@Geoff69420Someone in management hates her guts and will do anything to ruin her, legal consequences be damned
It only makes sense that a sinking yacht would get MOIST as it goes down
Wtf
😂😅.
Hey king, you dropped this 👑
actually the "I got access to my phone" tweet was confirmed to be management because they gave a timeframe of when her accounts were taken.
I look forward to the day Doki just posts a smug smile and says "I won".
No explanation, no details, just a simple gremlin heh. But we will know and the party will be legendary.
I imagine it would be a “We won”.
I would think that she would say nothing but play neopets and garfield kart in the same stream.
@@brianli6562 that will be the clue lol, we'll celebrate that day
@@brianli6562my neopets account is on standby until that day o7
Like not just him. Basically the community, the Ex Niji talents like Sayu, Matara and Kuro now Doki and the news channels destroyed Niji.
The stream sniping on Neopets where Doki had to react in real time to a slam piece from her former coworkers was what made a lot of the dragoons unreasonably angry and caused worse damage for Nijisanji than any of the other fucked up things they did
Idk about unreasonable lol
@@waifudestroyer2120 I meant that there was no reasoning with us to calm down but yeah I phrased that wrong
A giant company is about collapse in fiery flames and we all here to witness it.
And its glorious
I brought Popcorn. I would've brought marshmellows, but I'm concerned of the chemicals involved in that bonfire.
And with Charlie involved, it will be THROBBING
@@redrosewick💀
An arm of it at least. Niji EN is just a branch office.
9:07 the trigger was not the music video, She had filed a legal notice and got fired 2 hours later. It had nothing to do with not getting permissions. This is from Doki giving details as to why this is happening. It's retaliation.
I think he meant the trigger for her attempt, which led to Niji showing their true colors which is black.
You know you've done goofed when both Asmon and Charlie say you've fucked up
And muta
@@BirdUppp yeah and Muta
The things Vox said though, and the way he said it, that guy is a snake.
You could not threaten nor pay me to talk about anyone like that, let alone a friend.
What did he say?
@morganhall6459 the tl;dr? He called her a liar and a bad friend, that he was offended she had a recording of him, and that he tried so hard to be a good friend but she scorned him repeatedly.
Then, after all of that and notably not apologizing once, he said he hoped she learned from her mistake of TRYING TO KILL HERSELF and grows as a person.
It's also coming to light he has a history of all kinds of gaslighting, bullying, etc. Dude is genuine scum.
@@hawkshot867 that's even worse than i thought, i'm actually fucking speechless
not surprising coming from the same person who easily threw Reimu under the bus when things went south and more importantly, the same person with a really shady PL @@hawkshot867
I would say that Charlie video is what spread the situation further than the original bubble of vtubing. It more so he contributed in majorly helping destroying the company already declining popularity, than actually destroying it as what he said in the video is what most people have been saying for the past few days, given that they know about the situation well enough.
Charlie was great. Asmond helped too.
😊😊😊
The only way to calm the mob is either the CEO resigns and sell the yacht or the bullies get name dropped and they each make apology videos.
Only the last half of this comment would help.
@@BowsettesFury And it wouldn't be enough.
@@kayschut9327 idk... bored sadists on twitter or 4-chan take simple names and expand the hit list from just the guilty to their whole family tree. It doesn't help that they're in Japan... a place where stalkers, para-socials, fvcked up vigilantes and degenerates are their most talked about crime.
@@sabertoothno34 I meant it wouldn't be enough for them to make an apology video, considering most people know they don't mean shit to begin with.
@kayschut9327 It'd need to be termination at least
"Because karma is fucking awesome and has a machinegun." That dispenses LIBERTY!!
AND JUSTICE!!
AND .50 BMG!
I had a "time" when I was really invested in Vtubers and tried to become one myself. Due to some complications I ditched the idea but was still glued to the vtuber scene, I was very obsessed with hololive for a while then with projekt melody and ironmouse. Then i kinda stopped and just watched whatever was on my feed. Selen's apex video came alot and i enjoyed them but wasn't really that into her as a content creator. This went on for a couple of months until she was the only vtuber i enjoyed watching. The termination and the events surrounding it came to me a really huge shock, and by accident i got recommend a live by Dokibird (her new/old channel) and for the first time ever i watched a whole Livestream. I have to be honest she was legitimately one of the best entertainers i have seen, she was very funny and engaging throughout the whole 3 hours. I cannot understand why they would waste such talent and ruin everything for themselves like that. I really just hope that she can get her footing back and that everything goes well for her. Btw she just started streaming and had set the goal for 500k by the end of the year but she already hit it like a day or two ago so yay doki.
I love that after the "non-neglibable" comment, even the bank Goldman Sachs took a chance to dunk in Nijisanji. The people the internett refer to when they say "Eat the rich" are able to shit all over them.
Imagine getting community note'd in a professional, corporate environment for your nonsense by Goldman Sachs, lmao.
Hey... when someone else pulls all the public, negative attention, goldman sachs would be stupid to not use that chance.
Our national bad egg, Deutsche Bank, would do the same if they had the chance. They did so much shady stuff in the past, they would absolutely jump onto a topic like this.
Blockbuster had plans to expand into the market like Netflix and scale back on stores. Unfortunately during 2008 one of the companies they were working with went under and Blockbuster no longer had the funds or infrastructure as a result, because a large part of the process was provided by that company.
Omfgg picture Meat Canyon making a video on the CEO gremlin sitting hoarding TH-cam play buttons
Stop no, pls no! I don’t think I could handle that much reality. XD
That would be golden
13:00 the leaked dms between Selen and the "manager" all but confirm that's the case. The "manager" says that because the video features some graduated talents it might take some additional time to ok.
Which is fucking dumb as shit, and probably just a bullshit excuse to fuck with Selen more.
and their official statement states that it was because of copyright risk hahahaha but aren't they the copyright owner of the IPs of those ex-members as nijisanji hahaha that PR blunder is beyond intern levels of dumb
@@benja9029 hey with the incompetence we’ve seen I can fully believe they are dumb enough to sue themselves over something like that
Sounds like this company is going to be a good case study in how not to handle this kind of situation.
It will be taught in business schools for centuries.
@@zemorph42apparently it's currently used as material by law professors in universities.
"Lots of things aren't funny. Breaking my computer wasn't funny. Shoving me in the locker wasn't funny!" - Jimmy (from Static Shock)
Was that the school shooter episode?
@@jibjibs9401Yes
@@jibjibs9401Yup
About the Elira thing. Reportedly, Niji management doesn't have a single English speaker/translator on staff. Elira is the ONLY one who speaks English and Japanese at a sufficient level to communicate between Niji EN and the company itself.
WE KNOW WHO THE BULLIES ARE!!
Isn't that from the great unified rrat?
@@Maxor369reported rrats
So that means Elira is essentially the messenger between nijisanji and the talents. Every translated message she conveys that undoubtedly has negative stuff will be construed as bullying even if it’s not her words but the companies. But since she is the messenger then she gets shot. Oof. I feel bad for her current position. And since she is living in Japan on a work visa if she even acts out or speaks out a little bit then she’s at risk of being deported
Isn't Shu also fluent in japanese?
Truly lore accurage elira
i understand Selen would assume that it's OKAY to post the cover song on her own, why? because it was funded by her own damn pocket. if you spent $200k on your own wallet just to fund your Events and activities, then the cost of that song was barely nothing in exchange for making her fans happy. that's what some other people dont get because they cant even fathom putting themselves on Selen's shoes on that time, most people only care about the 'Drama'.
I subbed to Doki recently because this situation put her on my radar and I think she deserves better.
Kurosanji has something in common with WWE, Walmart , Amazon, most record labels and basically anything that Simon Cowell owns, they've got terrible conditions that basically means you are not human. Point is the terrible mentality is not exclusive to Japanese Idol culture.
how internet jesus destroyed a corrupt weeb company
Nijisanji is like that joke in the Simpsons where Sideshow Bob keeps stepping on the rakes.
I was never really interested in Vtubing much and even less about agencies, but after hearing all the shit that happened to Doki and all the shit Niji is doing as a way to "get rep back" on a daily basis... I just want to see that org burn to the ground.
Good god. I'm such a drama junkie that I'm watching a reaction video to an exposition video on a controversy I've already witnessed directly. What the fuck is wrong with me
Moist might not have Jesus powers, but once he has judged something, then it is done for.
It's no longer a Yacht, it's a submarine.
Promoted to submarine. "Went and ****ed itself", as some might say.
Submarines protect people under pressure. It's more like the Titanic at this point
Edit: Unless it's OceanGate
Oceangate 2.0...
Just FYI, Doki confirmed that they wrote the hospital tweet.
Also, I'm pretty sure Doki isn't actively pursuing a case against Niji, her lawyer is for her protection because she knew the company would try to bait her so she's making very careful and calculated responses that they can't use against her.
You know it's down bad when Moist is coming in guns blastin'
Fellow Dragoons! We must stand in defense of Dokibird! Sink the yacht!
Remember, this is against her wishes though. I'm here for justice and stopping the cycle of graduation, not tarnishing reputations or hurting people.
Dragoon soldier -"Sir I have received reports the Yacht is sinking by itself."
Captain Dragoon -"Keep going... launch the Moist Critical Nuke."
"Nuclear launch detected "
Niji EN RIP...............
@@chaty9903 I'm sorry, are we not supposed to boycott the black company that nearly ended her life? That's an absolute and non-negotiable, non-starter for anyone with vaguely pro-labor morals.
@@chaty9903 Harssing people is against Doki's wishes. Sinking the yacht is just boycotting the Niji in any shape or form.
Unsubscribe from the channels. If any liver videos pop up in your suggestions mark them as unwanted. And just move on.
@magpiesarebestbirbs8958 Her own discord mods appear to be dim enough to think a boycott constitutes some kind of harassment, when it's a moral imperative at this point. There's no critical thinking present whatsoever.
This is absolutely deplorable and reprehensible, I can't believe this was allowed to go on so long.
And the rabbit hole of conspiracies being pushed is just insane, be very careful on the tight rope between falling for conspiracies without proof and into Niji's legal bullying range for sure.
Could we just go back and linger a bit more on how future generations will look back on great lore keepers and philosophers and the textbooks will have to mention WeebSh*tter in bold size 16 times new roman?
Even the investors could see the ship is sinking, but niji is panicking too much trying to pat off the fire on their butt to care about the ship.
Classic we're sorry YOU feel this way corpo speak.
This situation is so bad that the Vshojo drama with Nux sound like kid fight
So if I follow the crumbs, Mysta slipped up about the merch pay, Niji got mad, Mysta lawyers up, Niji allows Mysta to "graduate' instead of getting fired.
That's the worst part of Nijisanji and companies like them; the talent they hire via auditions could likely succeed independently. It would take longer, without the initial clout and vtuber assets that are the only things provided, but that's what the auditions Nijisanji holds are there to test; whether or not these people have the potential to draw viewers. Then, once hired, Nijisanji does everything in its power to beat them into properly shaped cogs attached to the corporate machine. They hammer in the fact that Nijisanjo owns the talent's everything, and they screw the talent over as much as they can get away with.
Oh I didn't know Charlie's agency goes that far back, that is amazing!
The Yacht is a submarine!!
I love how nux gives credit to smaller creators when he knows he’s the one who destroyed nijisanji
Don't forget to credit. Without Sayu the main character in this we wouldn't see the truth early! And then our fallen heros like Unnamed, Matara and Kuro now Doki to. Along with the news coverage.. everybody shown what Niji is!
@@lizlizbianrosethornswordPlus Scarle the goat!! And even some of the other talents still in Nijisanji EN are actually great people!
@@lizlizbianrosethornswordDon't forget something. WE..ARE..ALL..POMU!!!
Gotta support Lil Charlie. He has a solid channel and I'm sure it'll grow... Eventually 😂
No one really destroyed niji. Except their bad or weird management.
Dude, you are awesome. I hope someone takes you up on that offer.
17:22 Uuuhh are we just gonna ignore this bombshell of information?? If that’s true, what in the actual FUCK
I'm betting doki's lawyer has contingencies on top of contingencies he's shared with her for Kurosanji's bs.
2:10 you now think about Team Fortress 2 memes
Charlie's video is actually having a pretty big impact, I'm keeping an eye on the Japenese stocks and there are many people bringing up his video, he seems well respected and it's being treated as a big deal that he made a video by many.
BTW a contract that states that you're not allowed to acknowledge that you worked for/with them is almost certainly legally unenforceable even in the US much less the EU and canada, they can restrict certain things but even US worker protection laws prohibit them from this as well as from restricting discussion of what working for them was like.
I'm surprised Nijisan hasn't tried the old, "We have investigated ourselves and found nothing wrong."
Learning more and more about this makes the vtubing scene much scarier to dip your toes in to.
All we're missing now is a post mortem from Mogul Mail.
It's crazy how this whole nijisanji situation is like a villain comic
Dokibird is going to catch up on games that she hasn't been allowed to play. She's starting Batman: Arkham Asylum tonight.
3:00 dude you are my favorite vtuber has been for years
"This is how I am celebrating Valentine's Day" bro is so me
The three of them "volunteering" to say that crap was Katniss Everdeen going "I volunteer as tribute." at best, and Primrose being initially chosen at worst. Point being, the 'games' and this 'stream' equally need not have existed.
I absolutely love how "I told you so" Nux is it makes my day go off king
I think these lyrics are perfect fot describing Nijsanji and other companies like it:
"Another day older and deeper in debt
St. Peter don't you call me, 'cause I can't go
I owe my soul to the company store"
-Sixteen Tons, Merle Travis
Its really cool to see a youtuber as big as Penguinz0 calling out Nijisanji and the bad people.
Hey, I just wanna say you are doing something amazing Nux. I don't know much about the behind the scenes of this whole business, I can only imagine how hard this whole thing must be, but also how much fun it can be since you can be as creative as you want. You helping others is something really nice. Good on you, man
i imagine years later when Nux is helping content creators IRL and he shows up in person wearing a custom made Red Fuzzy Coat. and the Copo is like scared knowing that coat
Dammit, I was originally planning to just throw this under the category of "nonsense internet drama" and call it a day. And then you bring all this out.
What is sad is a lot of site that rank vtuber subscribers don't consider nux a vtuber, but only a youtuber they are doing my boy dirty and i won't accept that.
Hey boss 👏 😂 you are killing it with these videos!
The only reason I can think of why Nijisanji would keep their Vtubers play buttons, is that if a new talent was approached by Nijisanji and didn't know anything about any of this. They can use those play buttons to sway an ignorant potential talent by showing a room or a blank wall littered with those play buttons of their current and past Vtubers, as means to brag about how successful they are and how the *COMPANY* contributed to 100% of their talents success and accolades.
That's the only thing I can think of at the top of my head as to why, use the backs of their talents to fan the management and CEOs egos when they didn't do anything. 😒
Problem with this- Any actual talent that's swayed by this... Have to be the most gullible people I'd ever have the fortune of not placing eyes on
@@tatsuyahiiragi416 Again, if they didn't know anything about the drama, and let's be real I can see Nijisanji telling a turd of a lie of how their Vtubers let them have them to showcase what they've accomplished, and that new talent can achieve the same thing in order to convince them to sign with them. I do agree that they would have to be the most gullible person to fall for something so obvious but in this day and age where ppl want to become famous or an influencer on the Internet so bad, I really wouldn't be surprised if someone *DID* fall for that. Disappointed...but not surprised.😒
@@RoyG.BivDevoe I don't know much about Vtubers myself (I superfiicially follow clips of shylily and other randoms vtubers at most.) I STILL got to know about this, only three days ago. This thing will reach far... and I'd honestly expect anyone looking to be hired as a talent to research their targets anyway. Due diligence.
@@tatsuyahiiragi416 I hope so too, I'm not too into Vtubers either but I do like Grimmi and Ironmouse, the only reason I even discovered Ironmouse is because she likes Jaboody Dubs. I found out about this whole fiasco with Dokibird through non-Vtubers, Omni and Asmondgold. If ppl who want to be a Vtuber and want to sign with a company I do hope they see this as an example to look for red flags within the company or before signing that contract.
@@tatsuyahiiragi416 Sorry, for some weird reason either YT took down my reply or I can't see it on my end.
Ok hearing a new Nux Documentary incomming is making me so Hype.
3:50 You know, ive always wondered why I like you're content as much as I do, what give it the spice that stands out. Its this, short, consise, sarcastic summaries that cut through the BS and expose the heart of the issue in a humorous way.
“With the properties of both bungee and gum” LMFAO NUX
My oh my. This is a triple reaction. Nux reacting to Charlie reacting to Mujin. This is once in a lifetime event.
Kurosanji must REALLY be a fan of George Orwell's "1984" if this is how they've operated thus far.
Charlie is the final judgment of any drama
30:25 why does nux sound like Scooby do and boss Nass gungen leader had a mutant alien baby and it possessed nux
When Internet Jesus casts his stone... oh yeah that ship it be sinking very soon. Charlie be casting that stone like he's skipping rocks and then sunk Nijisanji's ship like the Titanic, their end is nigh.
Here's the thing, they may not have volunteered but they definitely *chose* to say it. They could have refused and threw their supposed friend under the bus instead. What a disgusting thing to do.
22:25 G******
Every time you mentioned I just get flashbacks
NijiSanji sunk faster than when the United States sunk the Yamamoto
Yes. The connection between agencies and the models / characters each person has is somewhat akin to how actors used to be 'out on loan' in Hollywood. The Doors sing about that in Riders on the Storm.
53:41 not bro singing a hazbin song that was so unexpected
to quote Asmongold: "who cares how to pronounce their name? soon they'll be called Rop Bozo anyway"
22:08 I’m not gonna discus every single model they make for each member of the company since I honestly don’t know the nitty gritty details of how that works, they may very well own some of the models that they get. But I’m pretty sure that the IP fore the characters themselves are owned by the talents themselves regardless if they had those IPs before joining or not. Take for example Nazuna (I know at this point that’s not the name most know her by but I’m using this name just to easier keep track on who I’m talking about) her model was made specifically for joining the company and when she left she was still the owner of it. Now I definitely agree about the part that they only take in those who only have an existing fanbase. Again, they may own some of the models that are made for them, I don’t know. But the IPs themselves are as far as we’ve seen this far owned by the talents themselves. Btw, not trying to either defend nor attack anyone here. Just trying to based on what I know, which I could be very wrong about, to point to the facts regardless of my feelings to any corpo. If I’m wrong I’m wrong and I’ll admit to it. Sorry for the rambling 😅
That’s Vshojo not nijisanji. Niji owns the IP
Makes me kinda sad that no one ever mentions Yugo when talking about ex-livers…. Yugo and Selen were the reason I even started watching Niji in the first place, both of them getting terminated has been so painful
Nijisanji is just out there leasing v-tuber origin stories
Have you guys seen the great unifying rrat about Niji? It is crazy but makes kind of sense.
If true it explains the apology video, the stream announcement and why Doki was so depressed.
Regarding their stock value, currently as of today 10th of May, its sitting at around 2326, down from 3820 on 5th of February.
Expected for it to drop harder when the Q4 investors call happens next month.
34:37 the fact that maybe they would say no is a believable responce is wild.