Great video Lee. It really does feel like the "if all you have is nails, every solution looks like a hammer" with traffic solutions in the community. Lots of praise and attention for very elaborate highway junctions, very little discussion of efficiency in design.
Thank you, and I agree. I have more coming that flies in the face of conventional traffic wisdom coming in Part 8. I’m hoping this gets people to see some different possibilities!
@@bassegovia4706 I have rough cuts (they show the gameplay but lack music/titles/cinematics) of Parts 7-9 on Patreon, and I should have a final cut on these in the coming weeks. I'm working on a script for Part 10 as well. I'm getting excited about getting them out there as well!
@@LeeHawkinsPhoto great to hear! Thanks to your help I’ve got my first city with over 10k cims and sitting pretty with over $1,000,000 in the bank. My cities have never done so well!
Interesting video. You're correct in that roundabouts and fancy junctions are all well and good for fixing an already built, traffic filled city... but actually designing the city correctly in the first place is much better. Then you turn off despawning and see how badly you did anyway 🤣
@@valmeida6846 don’t get me wrong-roundabouts are great, and I’m a big fan! I just don’t like the old fashioned kind that the US Federal Highway Administration calls a “traffic circle”, and the complexity of building a modern roundabout, even with mods, makes them impractical most of the time. It’s a shame CO never made modern roundabouts easier to build in small footprints, because there are times when they are the only effective means of handling an intersection.
@@LeeHawkinsPhoto yes, we have a big double traffic circle on an 8 way junction in my city of Colombo. Thats the place I hate the most here in terms of roadway
Disable despawning at day-one and only click it on if you encounter a severe problem that needs to be resolved. Forces you to get it more-or-less right the first time and fix small problems as you go.
Hi Lee. When are you continuing this series? I think I speak for many when I say how enjoyable and informative this series has been. Not to mention the awesome street layout you have created. Thanks Lee, for all your Cities: Skylines videos.
There are a few TH-camrs I watch for CS, but you are the only one I have seen who intelligently studies all facets of the game and applies that knowledge. As a person who likes to learn and think carefully about everything, I really appreciate the thoroughness and thoughtfulness of your ideas.
Something which I've been trying and that's worked fairly well for me is somewhat emulating European mixed zoning. Putting low density shops mixed in with your residential greatly reduces the traffic from residential>commercial since anyone can just walk or cycle to the shops unless they specifically need to go to high density commercial (which I tend to like to put in areas with strong public transport links). I've found doing this along with using tons of cycling infrastructure basically makes traffic a complete non-issue as long as your public transport makes sense.
I've been playing Cities Skylines for about two years now, but i always abandon my cities because they don't feel natural. Someone recomended your channel on Reddit and i'm amazed by how beaultiful and planned your cities look. I've binge watching all of your series and learning your tips. Hope you can continue with the incredible work, you're amazing!
What I have discovered after starting several cities is exactly what is presented in this video as far as Road Layout + Good Zoning = smoother traffic. I use to use a lot of roundabouts, which, in my opinion do well in moderate to light traffic, but have moved to timed traffic lights for heavier traffic along with lane math (including good lane counts for lanes that have the heavier traffic) & lane management. Between tips from Yumbl, Biffa, & Lee here, my latest city is 50,000 with the equivalent of 3 areas left to unlock & fill & have 0 backups with an average rating of 75% traffic. Yes, I have some red, but that's only due to heavy traffic, not actual traffic issues causing backups.
Somehow, a year or so after this is published, it shows up on my TH-cam feed. I have watched a lot of CS content creators but your style and play along tutorial has been super helpful. I even went through and built the city with you throughout the episodes... But then when I'm most excited to see how you expand, the series is over? Any word on if you'll come back to this series? Either way, it's been so much fun watching. Thank you!
I had a lot of things unravel on me in 2021 and it’s taken me a lot to get back to producing videos again. I’m starting to get back into them now, and I have most of Part 7 and half of Part 8 done, and Part 9 is planned. This series in particular takes a lot of effort to produce and I just haven’t had the energy to devote to it for a while…so more is coming! Hold tight!
@@LeeHawkinsPhoto Awesome! So glad to hear you're getting back in the swing of things. I am excited to see how your city progresses compared to how I built from the stub city you started. I'm up to 4k citizens in Settlegeti now!
@@LeeHawkinsPhoto Please do continue the series…..it might just be the ultimate CS guide…..I’ve seen a million videos and no one explains all the mechanisms as clearly and technically as you do!!
I’ll never stop being terrified when I see cars going the wrong way around an island! 🏴 Love these videos! You’ve stopped me playing with infinite money cuz I actually understand the game now!! Thank you!
I like this series. Not many people design cities with the 19th century design in place and it just looks so much more realistic with it. I always have a hard time trying to expand my city in a realistic way. I can never really decide where that first street should go.
Thank you SO much for this. Traffic is one of the things I struggled with the most (I usually built cities with huge amounts of bicycle lanes, which helped significantly but may not have addressed the root issue), especially when trying to massively scale up cities in order to fulfill the obscure requirements for unlocking special buildings. This was a tremendous help, and I very much appreciate it, especially when (as you've said) a lot of the help I've seen has focused more on fancy and increasingly ugly highway implements when I'm trying to figure out how to keep my highway traffic from cramming down one tiny off-ramp just to get to a specific industrial district. Thanks so much.
Great! I’m so glad you benefitted! I struggled so hard when I started because SimCity always let you skate a lot easier on these things, and CS just DOES NOT! Zoning is really the key. It’ll make your life so much easier armed with this knowledge 😁
Hey Lee, I really enjoyed this series so far - so well explained (+ II liked the sci-fi references) and nice length videos on each subject. But I'm also a bit amazed at this layout so I'm super eager to see it work when you scale it up! Hope you continue it soon!
I'm so happy you've enjoyed these! And I've been working on the next 3 episodes! Hopefully will drop a new episode this month or next! Those take a lot of time to plan and produce, and until recently I have just not been able to focus on them mentally. Should be able to get these back into regular production soon 😎
@@LeeHawkinsPhoto Love these videos. I'm almost 500 hours in Cities Skylines on Steam and you gave me a lot of food for thought! Subscribing and hitting the bell for the next episode!
Finally!! I’ve been waiting impatiently for this series to continue, I even forgot about it and then I saw this on my timeline..... that joy feeling kicked in 😂 the information about traffic it’s amazing! Can’t for the next episode!! 😎
This was an amazing series and was ready to binge more, sad to see it stopped after this one. Any plans to pick this series up again? I learned so much!
I don't know why this guy doesn't have more views. I just found this and I'm enjoying the explanations. It's descriptive and it's not "Do this. And boom."
lol "Cities Skylines isn't a perfect representation of real life. They often die while out shopping, but almost never at work or in a hospital." lmao! You are so funny.
Thank you for calling out that fancy roundabouts aren't needed at the start of the game. I'm still a relative newbie and when i watch some of the other CS players on youtube, they start their cities with such elaborate setups that it feels like the city will collapse without them. Looking forward to your next video. Saw in the comments that you had a rough winter, glad you're doing better now.
It was my pleasure! It just bugs me that the road layout/traffic advice out there flat out ignores land use/zoning, but treats the fancy stuff (especially highways!) like it’s necessary when it’s totally overkill and actually makes traffic a TON more difficult than it needs to be as the city grows. Part 8 will totally explode road hierarchy...I cannot wait to see what people think about that! And I appreciate your concern. We’re moving along much better now, but you never fully recover from losing someone important...you just learn to deal a little better.
@@beepbop6542 😁 I can’t wait for that episode to come out! I had hoped I’d have it ready for May, but this was a crazy month...June looks crazy too, but I think I’ll get caught up to MMLT again 😊
“…we’re modeling our city on 19th century American cities” ok I understand why, as a teaching tool, this makes sense. And, the game is / was maybe developed with that in mind (but maybe not), so yeah, these models will “work” in the game. I just hope that some day you can make a video about the “ideal” Cities Skylines city, or on… 22nd century American cities!
This is an interesting question! And one I could definitely make a video about. But in all sincerity...I really feel like we've gone backwards in developing cities in real life, thanks to the automobile. A lot of damage has been done to excellent urban environments, and a lot of completely untenable suburban environments have been built purely around cars. But as far as "ideal" Cities: Skylines cities go...I don't think there's a right or wrong way to do it. You can build a walkable utopia or an automotive utopia and make either one work. I think it's a lot easier to build a walkable city than a cartopia though, and that's what I'm promoting in this video. Sometimes the old ways were right all along and the technology gets in the way. I feel like that is very true with cars. They're useful, but we have probably become too reliant on them as a society--at least in North America.
Great topic! I see too many references to Biffa's traffic mitigations tips, and not nearly enough to things like this about why there's so much traffic in the first place because of where the buildings are.
That’s part of why I made this and included that rant...Biffa’s tips and many of the others are good ideas most of the time, but there are times they can actually make things worse...which is what I will show in Part 8 😁 I cannot wait for that one!
You never really get over grief...you just learn to live with it. I really needed to be there for the family a lot more. They’re doing much better now, but it’s still gonna be tough for a long time.
@@GATORORANGEGUY yes! It’s not on YT yet, but there’s a rough cut up on my Patreon for those with the Studio pass. Part 8 is written, just not recorded yet.
It didn't end, my life got complicated from the pandemic and it's taken me this long to get new episodes together. I have 3-4 in the works now. A new one will drop in the coming days/weeks.
You should have put something like this in the video title: inapropriatte for begginners or only for Cities Skylines geeks. Don't get me wrong, I personally liked the video because this is A LOT of good info on how to reduce even further traffic. But new players will find it boring and won't see it to the end (well, let's hope I'm completly wrong on this). Anyways, you developed a lot on the concept of zoning traffic theme which is cool since many people doing tutorials often do not mention. The only thing I would suggest is that maybe further in the series you need to come back to this subject with the introducing of new zone types.
For sure I’ll be back...and this series is more of a deep dive, not just a highlight reel. I have more videos coming soon with traffic tips that will be the condensed version of these, but I want to have the depth put together first so I can point people back to these. I really don’t think it’s true that this video isn’t for beginners and is only for geeks though. I think it’s important for everyone who plays with the simulation running (who doesn’t just use the game as a diorama and doesn’t really care about traffic) to understand where cims make trips and how they can design for that. I haven’t seen people make those videos at all so far, and they all get WAY more geeky on the intersections and road hierarchy-rezoning is more effective than just about anything else is to fix traffic. The roads matter, but making things walkable makes a lot bigger difference.
@@LeeHawkinsPhoto don't get me wrong because I'm coming for your videos although I'm an experienced player. I think we should always go for other players to get new ideas/designs for our own cities and there's also something that other people know that we don't. That's why I keep watching your videos because I can see you've done the research for it. Keep up the good job.
I definitely don’t mean as it a jab to anyone in particular. Phil (CPP) is a friend, so he actually saw this video days before it premiered on TH-cam. Road hierarchy works...if it’s done right...but most inexperienced players don’t understand how to implement it, so a grid is way easier for them to start. The same is true for Biffa’s advice...what he does definitely works, but it’s not as easy for a new player to wrap their head around. More than anything I say what I say because roundabouts and road hierarchy are the conventional wisdom in ALL forums discussing Cities: Skylines (Reddit, Steam, etc.). And yet I’ve lost count of how many people this advice did not work for...so that’s why I say it like this. I think it’s good to learn other ways of doing things, but I think it’s more important to enjoy the game by being able to build a big city first-and the easiest most sure way to do that is just to use a grid. That’s all I’m saying.
@@LeeHawkinsPhoto and when you say conventional wisdom, Phil and biffa and czardus are the only C:S TH-camrs i watch on a regular basis, so their videos are the conventional wisdom for me 😁
@@alienamzal477 well I suppose they’re part of that...but you’ll notice that Czardus and CPP use grids much more often...and to their benefit! When I started putting my vids out, I got endless comments and complaints about how it was “just a grid”. But grids are simple! And they are a lot easier for newer players to deal with. Zoning in my mind is WAY more important than road hierarchy, roundabouts, or highways...and it’s the thing I see new players hit snags on most. And it’s all good 👍🏻
Hey! i just started watching your channel. Awesome video! Not only do you explain how zoning is a major contributor to traffic and how important it is planning but you also give a history lesson on how historic cities developed. Thank you Lee!
that is basically the main concept in every sim city ever since 30 years. highest population numbers requires a way to reduce traffic or your city either goes bankrupt for public transportation costs or fails because all roads are blocked or both.
Hi Lee - This video is absolutely excellent ! I learned more from this than most other youtube vids I have ever watched on Cities Skylines! I feel like I understand the game so much more after seeing this one! I will watch more of your vids on CS as well !! Thanks for explaining it so well !!
So much information, so little time. I have to subscribe just so I can watch again. Binge watched this series from the start episode. My brain has a love/hate with the maths. I love the detail but I suck at maths.
I’ve always liked math, but I know lots of people don’t. I try to emphasize the benefits and keep things as simple as possible so people see why they might want to bother. I feel like they teach math wrong (or at least they did when I was a kid in the US) because it’s all numbers and almost zero application until you get into something physics or engineering or navigation related...and then you wish you would have paid attention in algebra class. I always thought they should show you the problem and then explain the math to solve it. I think people would struggle with it a lot less if they had the motivation to make the effort. Like don’t teach how to find the mean or median of a bunch of random numbers, use a play by play from a football game and figure out which running back broke loose more often and which was more consistent. Idk...anything to make the numbers _meaningful!_
@@LeeHawkinsPhoto the only person who could make maths make sense to me was my younger sister. Unfortunately my brain decided early I was too stupid for such things 😔 and I never really recovered from it. I know I can do maths but my brains default reaction is 'too hard, I'm out.'
13:38 Nitpick: Current FHWA definitions make a "roundabout" and "traffic circle" distinct things. The primary distinction is that in a roundabout the traffic *on* the circular roadway is uncontrolled and has priority, whereas on traffic circles there are commonly lights that stop the circulating traffic.
I totally expected this nitpick, which is why I distinguished the first roundabout from a modern roundabout. You’re absolutely right that most regions of the US have a different term for a roundabout that isn’t a modern roundabout-often they’re called rotaries in the Northeast, and here in Ohio we call them traffic circles. But there are actually tons of little things besides just traffic controls that distinguish a modern roundabout from these old traffic circles. However, in Europe the term “roundabout” encompasses just about any circular roadway, so that’s why I distinguish using the term _modern roundabout_ instead of roundabout vs. traffic circle...the game has a very international audience.
@@LeeHawkinsPhoto I'm glad I stumbled across this! I'll be watching more of your videos. You know I'm always appalled that twentieth century North American suburbs generate a $#!+ton of traffic when compared to traditional New England cities and towns that are just as dense if not more dense. It all comes down to zoning. Now on to roundabouts. New England (again) particularly Massachusetts got a handle on its rotaries fairly early on when it eased the entry into and exit out of the circle with curves, and required traffic entering the rotary to yield to traffic inside the rotary. The yield control I think is the one move that makes this type of intersection function so much smoothly than four way stop signs and traffic lights. Which leaves me scratching my head why New Jersey never universally adopted this rule but instead signallised or got rid of most of its traffic circles.
Roundabouts are often nice, but even with mods they get "unrealistic" in Cities Skylines. Usually you have to make them way bigger than they would realistically be, and the traffic flow sometimes isn't easy to set up correctly. That being said, they are not the greatest solution in real life either. Close to where I live there is a roundabout that becomes a pain during rush hour. (So much so that I avoid driving there at those times). The big problem is that most of the traffic comes from the highway, and wants to cross to the left, with very less traffic coming FROM the left and wanting to go towards the high way. That causes that one direction to clog up the roundabout making it more difficult for the other two roads to enter. I see this issue in Cities sometimes too, usually if your roundabouts are too small. (Which technically is a solution in real life too, just not an easy one) In such situations I think a well timed traffic light would work better.
I always draw the roundabouts in Cities: Skylines by hand (with curved streets), making them much smaller, and it works fine for me, just like real roundabouts in Europe.
@@LeeHawkinsPhoto I wish I had found your channel when I was new too I’ve got over 1000 hours but there’s always more to learn and more nuance to uncover. Just like with real city planning!
I can't wait until the next video! I feel like I can't progress any further with this one coz I might break it! Off to make a new city and test what I've learnt while I wait for the next instalment....... also, I hit that Subscriiiiiiiiiibe LOL
I much prefer putting in a spot of commercial here and there then putting it all in one area, or along one or a set of roads; I think of it like how parks have to be evenly distributed to have effective coverage (like in a lot of European countries, which they would do that more here, tbh..)
Great video and this series is phenomenal! Really hoping to see more of this town growth as I really enjoyed following along and building with you. Any updates on when it might be continuing? Keep up the great work!
Lee, just curious if you’ll be making an episode 7-8 in this series? Would love to watch the city grow and expand and see how you’re going to start the public transit for the city.
It’s in the works. I had a pretty close family member die in 2021 and that’s set things back much worse than I expected. We’re still not quite functioning like before...
I have more in the pipeline...2021 has been a brutal year for me personally, so that’s really gummed up production of the rest of the series. I’m hoping to get it back on track in the coming month or two.
@@LeeHawkinsPhoto oh my God! I'm really sorry to hear that! I really enjoyed the content so far! Take the time. That really needs to heal. My condolences!
Has this series been discontinued? Just discovered and absolutely love it, however this appears to be the last episode released in what is about to be a year! If there are more episodes that I am unable to find I would greatly appreciate if someone were to link them
I have a rough cut (not 100% finished yet) of Part 7 on Patreon, and Part 8 has been caught in limbo because of hitting a wall last year from burning out, especially with the loss of my wife’s mom. This will be back! Don’t worry… 👍🏻
@@LeeHawkinsPhoto ah I’m so sorry to hear that. Don’t worry, no stress! Take as long as you need and I for one will watch it whenever it’s released. It’s a great series and has helped me a lot even with a few hundred hours in the game already
one problem with traffic in this game is that the most optmial way is to have no traffic lights, simple because Aciddents don't exist, on the game...... in real life we need traffic lights,, wish they could improve it.....
@@LeeHawkinsPhoto I have no issue with this setup with smaller scale, but once I start to build a big downtown area, vans from generic industry are flooding into downtown.
@@huanglong08 the CBD should not be 100% commercial...you want to intersperse the zone types as the city grows. I’ll have further videos about this in the future. This will not be the last time I get into this. 🙂
Stop signs are ludicrous. The whole world uses Give Way (yield) signs in heavily populated areas with absolutely no problem whatsoever. I cannot comprehend why the U.S. and this game are unable to grasp this simple concept.
You're sure that "the whole world uses yield signs", are you? Many areas of the world use no signs or signals at all at most intersections. They often don't bother to pave their roads either. The roads are often quite narrow too. Of course, their traffic is pretty chaotic as a result, but somehow most people survive their daily trips because the speeds are low. Here in North America we prefer our streets to be paved and wide. This encourages dangerous speeds that must be countered with stop signs at junctions with cross traffic.
Because in America, "yield" (give way) means slow down and cut off the traffic that has the right of way. Even cops do it. "Stop" on the other hand functions like a "yield" should: roll the stop but come to a full stop only when you must (when there's traffic, or the police are there especially if you're black).
Here in Russia (and most parts of Europe), a stop sign is only ever used if the junction has bad visibility, or if the crash rate at that junction is high.
Would love to do that, but while it helps bingers such as you, it can discourage views from people new to the channel...so I have playlists on my channel page that put them all in order 😁
How would you go about office zoning? Considering it doesn't add heavy traffic. Would you recommend zoning it similar to comercial or do you have any other guidelines/tips?
Great question! I didn't address that in this video much, but the short answer is that I usually intersperse it to buffer between high density commercial and residential, and between industrial and residential. Office zones tolerate ground and noise pollution much better than residential ever will, and it provides jobs without ratcheting up the traffic since it's within walking distance of the main roads that usually have transit and within walking distance of so much residential. So it's a win-win-win! I'll have more on that though as we upzone the city!
Are "ring ways" a thing? In the Netherlands many cities have in inner city where cars are discouraged. Most traffic is steered through the rings. Just like having the tiers of main roads and collector roads. But is it advisable to build these in a circle/square around a downtown area and around the city as a whole? They function a bit like a roundabout on a much larger scale.
That is a complicated question with a somewhat equally complicated set of answers. I would say the answer could go either way, depending on so many other factors like land use patterns, walkability, etc. Those sorts of things will eventually get addressed in future videos as things progress. I’m a huge fan of Dutch urban planning and want to do a whole lot more with it.
@@LeeHawkinsPhoto Yeah, the Netherlands has very interesting cities. Because all centers grew organically before cars were a thing, you don't have grids and many parts aren't that suited to much traffic. And we have a lot of pedestrians and cyclists so inner city traffic is a challenge. Both good reasons to discourage cars further. (I have a drivings license but don't think I'll ever get a car). I guess with heavy grids you could get a similar effect to a ring, just some avenues and streets drawing most traffic. If certain parts have extra lanes and/or more speed in a nice shape you could call that a ring. Maybe, like a roundabout, they work excellently up to a certain point, than clog up terribly. Collector roads could take any shape, Y or X shapes with extra lines that may work better.
@@teambellavsteamalice I definitely think you'll see grids as having some unique benefits when I finally get Part 8 done. I am _hoping_ to get that polished off in the next 2 months... _hoping._
This video is really interesting and informative! I've been looking for more advice on how to use stop signs and traffic lights in C:S properly for quite some time now :) So thanks a lot for making this video, I really enjoyed it and find it very helpful! And I already have my eyes on a few other videos on your channel, so I'm looking forward to them :D Also, thanks a lot @CityPlannerPlays for sending me here :)
Yes! You can get away with it when it’s forestry or farming...it’s a bit noisy, but there’s no ground pollution. A lot stuff will get moved around when I bring the railroad in and office zones become available. I like to keep things compact so cims decide to walk.
Great video Lee. It really does feel like the "if all you have is nails, every solution looks like a hammer" with traffic solutions in the community. Lots of praise and attention for very elaborate highway junctions, very little discussion of efficiency in design.
Thank you, and I agree. I have more coming that flies in the face of conventional traffic wisdom coming in Part 8. I’m hoping this gets people to see some different possibilities!
@@LeeHawkinsPhoto Sounds great can't wait
@@LeeHawkinsPhoto Have you ever uploaded part 7 or 8? I can't find them. Very interested!
@@bassegovia4706 I have rough cuts (they show the gameplay but lack music/titles/cinematics) of Parts 7-9 on Patreon, and I should have a final cut on these in the coming weeks. I'm working on a script for Part 10 as well. I'm getting excited about getting them out there as well!
@@LeeHawkinsPhoto great to hear! Thanks to your help I’ve got my first city with over 10k cims and sitting pretty with over $1,000,000 in the bank. My cities have never done so well!
Interesting video. You're correct in that roundabouts and fancy junctions are all well and good for fixing an already built, traffic filled city... but actually designing the city correctly in the first place is much better. Then you turn off despawning and see how badly you did anyway 🤣
Turning off despawning is the *ultimate* test!
Americans are anti roundabout specimen, Biffa
@@valmeida6846 don’t get me wrong-roundabouts are great, and I’m a big fan! I just don’t like the old fashioned kind that the US Federal Highway Administration calls a “traffic circle”, and the complexity of building a modern roundabout, even with mods, makes them impractical most of the time. It’s a shame CO never made modern roundabouts easier to build in small footprints, because there are times when they are the only effective means of handling an intersection.
@@LeeHawkinsPhoto yes, we have a big double traffic circle on an 8 way junction in my city of Colombo. Thats the place I hate the most here in terms of roadway
Disable despawning at day-one and only click it on if you encounter a severe problem that needs to be resolved. Forces you to get it more-or-less right the first time and fix small problems as you go.
Hi Lee. When are you continuing this series? I think I speak for many when I say how enjoyable and informative this series has been. Not to mention the awesome street layout you have created. Thanks Lee, for all your Cities: Skylines videos.
Very excited for the video!!
Thank you for introducing this guy for me
Hello there - Obi-Wan
Excited for another informative channel! Kudos for the intro ٩(^‿^)۶
@@spartacus987 General Kenobi
There are a few TH-camrs I watch for CS, but you are the only one I have seen who intelligently studies all facets of the game and applies that knowledge. As a person who likes to learn and think carefully about everything, I really appreciate the thoroughness and thoughtfulness of your ideas.
Aw shucks 😊 thank you! I’m glad to find a kindred spirit!
Finally after 4 months its finally here.
Hey, thanks for sticking around! This has been the worst winter...I can’t believe how insane it’s been.
Hopefully the next one will arrive sooner...
@@cryptonymsslc ((cough))
Something which I've been trying and that's worked fairly well for me is somewhat emulating European mixed zoning. Putting low density shops mixed in with your residential greatly reduces the traffic from residential>commercial since anyone can just walk or cycle to the shops unless they specifically need to go to high density commercial (which I tend to like to put in areas with strong public transport links).
I've found doing this along with using tons of cycling infrastructure basically makes traffic a complete non-issue as long as your public transport makes sense.
I've been playing Cities Skylines for about two years now, but i always abandon my cities because they don't feel natural. Someone recomended your channel on Reddit and i'm amazed by how beaultiful and planned your cities look.
I've binge watching all of your series and learning your tips.
Hope you can continue with the incredible work, you're amazing!
I’m so glad to have helped you out! I have been working on new episodes, so hopefully I’ll get them finished real soon and there will be more 😊
Lee, I've followed along closely and am totally hooked! Please continue this series so I can learn to build out an amazing city. Phenomenal work!
What I have discovered after starting several cities is exactly what is presented in this video as far as Road Layout + Good Zoning = smoother traffic. I use to use a lot of roundabouts, which, in my opinion do well in moderate to light traffic, but have moved to timed traffic lights for heavier traffic along with lane math (including good lane counts for lanes that have the heavier traffic) & lane management. Between tips from Yumbl, Biffa, & Lee here, my latest city is 50,000 with the equivalent of 3 areas left to unlock & fill & have 0 backups with an average rating of 75% traffic. Yes, I have some red, but that's only due to heavy traffic, not actual traffic issues causing backups.
This is awesome! Sorry I missed this! Thank you for sharing and confirming my findings 😃👍🏻
@@LeeHawkinsPhoto new update - same city - 95,000, 72% traffic with a lot of area to fill in 😃
Somehow, a year or so after this is published, it shows up on my TH-cam feed. I have watched a lot of CS content creators but your style and play along tutorial has been super helpful. I even went through and built the city with you throughout the episodes...
But then when I'm most excited to see how you expand, the series is over? Any word on if you'll come back to this series? Either way, it's been so much fun watching. Thank you!
I had a lot of things unravel on me in 2021 and it’s taken me a lot to get back to producing videos again. I’m starting to get back into them now, and I have most of Part 7 and half of Part 8 done, and Part 9 is planned. This series in particular takes a lot of effort to produce and I just haven’t had the energy to devote to it for a while…so more is coming! Hold tight!
@@LeeHawkinsPhoto Awesome! So glad to hear you're getting back in the swing of things. I am excited to see how your city progresses compared to how I built from the stub city you started. I'm up to 4k citizens in Settlegeti now!
@@LeeHawkinsPhoto Please do continue the series…..it might just be the ultimate CS guide…..I’ve seen a million videos and no one explains all the mechanisms as clearly and technically as you do!!
I’ll never stop being terrified when I see cars going the wrong way around an island! 🏴
Love these videos! You’ve stopped me playing with infinite money cuz I actually understand the game now!! Thank you!
Yay! I’m so glad to hear that!
I think, that it is very important, that every Sim has a comercial building within walking distance.
I like this series. Not many people design cities with the 19th century design in place and it just looks so much more realistic with it. I always have a hard time trying to expand my city in a realistic way. I can never really decide where that first street should go.
Thank you SO much for this. Traffic is one of the things I struggled with the most (I usually built cities with huge amounts of bicycle lanes, which helped significantly but may not have addressed the root issue), especially when trying to massively scale up cities in order to fulfill the obscure requirements for unlocking special buildings. This was a tremendous help, and I very much appreciate it, especially when (as you've said) a lot of the help I've seen has focused more on fancy and increasingly ugly highway implements when I'm trying to figure out how to keep my highway traffic from cramming down one tiny off-ramp just to get to a specific industrial district. Thanks so much.
Great! I’m so glad you benefitted! I struggled so hard when I started because SimCity always let you skate a lot easier on these things, and CS just DOES NOT! Zoning is really the key. It’ll make your life so much easier armed with this knowledge 😁
Hope you are well Lee!! Like many other so curious on if this will ever continue?! Absolutely loved this series, the content and your commentary :)
Thanks for checking up on me! I just put out Part 7…so it already continues 😁 and there’s more to come!
Hey Lee, I really enjoyed this series so far - so well explained (+ II liked the sci-fi references) and nice length videos on each subject. But I'm also a bit amazed at this layout so I'm super eager to see it work when you scale it up! Hope you continue it soon!
I'm so happy you've enjoyed these! And I've been working on the next 3 episodes! Hopefully will drop a new episode this month or next! Those take a lot of time to plan and produce, and until recently I have just not been able to focus on them mentally. Should be able to get these back into regular production soon 😎
@@LeeHawkinsPhoto Thank you! I've been following along and can't wait for the next episodes! Cheers
@@LeeHawkinsPhoto Love these videos. I'm almost 500 hours in Cities Skylines on Steam and you gave me a lot of food for thought! Subscribing and hitting the bell for the next episode!
Finally omg this is the most satisfiying series but I have to wait sooooo long.
Well hopefully it won’t be quite so long for the next one 😉
It's been a long time between videos, but it was worth the wait. So glad this series is back! Thanks Lee
Me too! Glad you enjoyed it!
Finally!! I’ve been waiting impatiently for this series to continue, I even forgot about it and then I saw this on my timeline..... that joy feeling kicked in 😂 the information about traffic it’s amazing! Can’t for the next episode!! 😎
Glad you remembered me! 😁 and I’m so happy you enjoyed this!
This was an amazing series and was ready to binge more, sad to see it stopped after this one. Any plans to pick this series up again? I learned so much!
I’m working on the next several episodes…I’m hoping to drop more soon. 👍🏻
Okay, this is the best Skylines channel on youtube. Great structure and delivery of information.
I don't know why this guy doesn't have more views. I just found this and I'm enjoying the explanations. It's descriptive and it's not "Do this. And boom."
lol "Cities Skylines isn't a perfect representation of real life. They often die while out shopping, but almost never at work or in a hospital." lmao! You are so funny.
I’m glad someone found that as goofy as I did!
Thank you for calling out that fancy roundabouts aren't needed at the start of the game. I'm still a relative newbie and when i watch some of the other CS players on youtube, they start their cities with such elaborate setups that it feels like the city will collapse without them. Looking forward to your next video. Saw in the comments that you had a rough winter, glad you're doing better now.
It was my pleasure! It just bugs me that the road layout/traffic advice out there flat out ignores land use/zoning, but treats the fancy stuff (especially highways!) like it’s necessary when it’s totally overkill and actually makes traffic a TON more difficult than it needs to be as the city grows.
Part 8 will totally explode road hierarchy...I cannot wait to see what people think about that!
And I appreciate your concern. We’re moving along much better now, but you never fully recover from losing someone important...you just learn to deal a little better.
@@LeeHawkinsPhoto Explode road hierarchy 0_0 now you got me hooked for episode 8!
@@beepbop6542 😁 I can’t wait for that episode to come out! I had hoped I’d have it ready for May, but this was a crazy month...June looks crazy too, but I think I’ll get caught up to MMLT again 😊
Just going through this series… you deserve at least 100K+ subscribers. This is top-quality content!
Thanks 😊 there’s more to come!
Always amazed of your high quality content! It's ok it takes some time between episodes 😉
Thanks so much for your patience! We had a pretty rough winter 😞 but I’m back in the saddle again 😎
More like November 2022, lol. I come here every month, love you man.
That firetruck tho.... 6:28
“…we’re modeling our city on 19th century American cities” ok I understand why, as a teaching tool, this makes sense. And, the game is / was maybe developed with that in mind (but maybe not), so yeah, these models will “work” in the game. I just hope that some day you can make a video about the “ideal” Cities Skylines city, or on… 22nd century American cities!
This is an interesting question! And one I could definitely make a video about.
But in all sincerity...I really feel like we've gone backwards in developing cities in real life, thanks to the automobile. A lot of damage has been done to excellent urban environments, and a lot of completely untenable suburban environments have been built purely around cars.
But as far as "ideal" Cities: Skylines cities go...I don't think there's a right or wrong way to do it. You can build a walkable utopia or an automotive utopia and make either one work. I think it's a lot easier to build a walkable city than a cartopia though, and that's what I'm promoting in this video. Sometimes the old ways were right all along and the technology gets in the way. I feel like that is very true with cars. They're useful, but we have probably become too reliant on them as a society--at least in North America.
Great topic! I see too many references to Biffa's traffic mitigations tips, and not nearly enough to things like this about why there's so much traffic in the first place because of where the buildings are.
That’s part of why I made this and included that rant...Biffa’s tips and many of the others are good ideas most of the time, but there are times they can actually make things worse...which is what I will show in Part 8 😁 I cannot wait for that one!
Glad to see you back Lee. I hope you had all the time you needed.
You never really get over grief...you just learn to live with it. I really needed to be there for the family a lot more. They’re doing much better now, but it’s still gonna be tough for a long time.
Woop woop been waiting wot seems forever, glad to see you back at it Lee
I'm glad to be back! I have lots of cool stuff in the pipeline!
@@LeeHawkinsPhoto looking forward to it dude
First time viewer here; this was actually pretty informative. I think I'll go ahead and rewatch the series now.
Glad this helped! Wait till you see Part 8 ☺
@@LeeHawkinsPhoto there’s a 7?!
@@GATORORANGEGUY yes! It’s not on YT yet, but there’s a rough cut up on my Patreon for those with the Studio pass. Part 8 is written, just not recorded yet.
@@LeeHawkinsPhoto yes I know now you told me on discord this is I absolutely hate redheads. 😂
@@GATORORANGEGUY I figured!
Have you realized how bad that sounds grammatically, even though it is grammatically correct lol?
My prayers have been answered. Thanks CPP for letting me know it was time to Lee...ave the No Hawkins wilderness
Oh my! Glad to help out 😊👍🏻
@@LeeHawkinsPhoto love your content.
What happened to this series? Why did it end before the city became big?
It didn't end, my life got complicated from the pandemic and it's taken me this long to get new episodes together. I have 3-4 in the works now. A new one will drop in the coming days/weeks.
Imagine if your job was 4 blocks away from your home, and you still chose to drive.
My life makes sense again now, thanks!! Don't take too long to post next episode pls
Well as long as nobody else does on me it shouldn’t be anywhere near as long 😕 it was a rough winter for me...
@@LeeHawkinsPhoto hope you doing well! Your content is amazing, that's why we"ve missed it so much. But take your time and be sure to feel well!
You should have put something like this in the video title: inapropriatte for begginners or only for Cities Skylines geeks. Don't get me wrong, I personally liked the video because this is A LOT of good info on how to reduce even further traffic. But new players will find it boring and won't see it to the end (well, let's hope I'm completly wrong on this).
Anyways, you developed a lot on the concept of zoning traffic theme which is cool since many people doing tutorials often do not mention. The only thing I would suggest is that maybe further in the series you need to come back to this subject with the introducing of new zone types.
For sure I’ll be back...and this series is more of a deep dive, not just a highlight reel. I have more videos coming soon with traffic tips that will be the condensed version of these, but I want to have the depth put together first so I can point people back to these.
I really don’t think it’s true that this video isn’t for beginners and is only for geeks though. I think it’s important for everyone who plays with the simulation running (who doesn’t just use the game as a diorama and doesn’t really care about traffic) to understand where cims make trips and how they can design for that. I haven’t seen people make those videos at all so far, and they all get WAY more geeky on the intersections and road hierarchy-rezoning is more effective than just about anything else is to fix traffic. The roads matter, but making things walkable makes a lot bigger difference.
@@LeeHawkinsPhoto don't get me wrong because I'm coming for your videos although I'm an experienced player. I think we should always go for other players to get new ideas/designs for our own cities and there's also something that other people know that we don't. That's why I keep watching your videos because I can see you've done the research for it. Keep up the good job.
10:13 I see you made a jab at Biffa for his intersections and CPP for his roadway hierarchy based model
I definitely don’t mean as it a jab to anyone in particular. Phil (CPP) is a friend, so he actually saw this video days before it premiered on TH-cam.
Road hierarchy works...if it’s done right...but most inexperienced players don’t understand how to implement it, so a grid is way easier for them to start. The same is true for Biffa’s advice...what he does definitely works, but it’s not as easy for a new player to wrap their head around.
More than anything I say what I say because roundabouts and road hierarchy are the conventional wisdom in ALL forums discussing Cities: Skylines (Reddit, Steam, etc.). And yet I’ve lost count of how many people this advice did not work for...so that’s why I say it like this. I think it’s good to learn other ways of doing things, but I think it’s more important to enjoy the game by being able to build a big city first-and the easiest most sure way to do that is just to use a grid. That’s all I’m saying.
@@LeeHawkinsPhoto hey, i meant it in a sarcastic way. so no worries
@@LeeHawkinsPhoto and when you say conventional wisdom, Phil and biffa and czardus are the only C:S TH-camrs i watch on a regular basis, so their videos are the conventional wisdom for me 😁
@@alienamzal477 well I suppose they’re part of that...but you’ll notice that Czardus and CPP use grids much more often...and to their benefit! When I started putting my vids out, I got endless comments and complaints about how it was “just a grid”. But grids are simple! And they are a lot easier for newer players to deal with. Zoning in my mind is WAY more important than road hierarchy, roundabouts, or highways...and it’s the thing I see new players hit snags on most.
And it’s all good 👍🏻
Hey! i just started watching your channel. Awesome video! Not only do you explain how zoning is a major contributor to traffic and how important it is planning but you also give a history lesson on how historic cities developed. Thank you Lee!
I’m so glad you enjoyed and even happier that you learned some new stuff! 😊
that is basically the main concept in every sim city ever since 30 years. highest population numbers requires a way to reduce traffic or your city either goes bankrupt for public transportation costs or fails because all roads are blocked or both.
yes! i've been waiting for this.
Wait no more!
Glad to see you back Lee!
Hey, thanks! Glad to be back and to see your name pop up again!
You never made part 8... :(
It’s coming…give it a little more time 🙃
@@LeeHawkinsPhoto :O
Lol the first time I ever zoomed Into my first ever stadium I see the herse dudes carrying coffin out and I was shocked! Soccer Hooligans!
Maybe I’m blind but is this your last video on this series ? If so, such a shame, I was hoping to continue binge watching it :p
There are 3 new episodes in the works...they're just complex...so it's taking me a while 😁
@@LeeHawkinsPhoto amazing. Can’t wait to see them. Thank you for your hard work !
It has finally arrived :D
Hi Lee - This video is absolutely excellent ! I learned more from this than most other youtube vids I have ever watched on Cities Skylines! I feel like I understand the game so much more after seeing this one! I will watch more of your vids on CS as well !! Thanks for explaining it so well !!
Lee, your videos are so good, please keep it going!
Oh believe me, there’s a lot more on the way!
Brilliant series. Really enjoyed watching these, and very much looking forwards to the next in series.
So much information, so little time. I have to subscribe just so I can watch again. Binge watched this series from the start episode. My brain has a love/hate with the maths. I love the detail but I suck at maths.
I’ve always liked math, but I know lots of people don’t. I try to emphasize the benefits and keep things as simple as possible so people see why they might want to bother. I feel like they teach math wrong (or at least they did when I was a kid in the US) because it’s all numbers and almost zero application until you get into something physics or engineering or navigation related...and then you wish you would have paid attention in algebra class. I always thought they should show you the problem and then explain the math to solve it. I think people would struggle with it a lot less if they had the motivation to make the effort. Like don’t teach how to find the mean or median of a bunch of random numbers, use a play by play from a football game and figure out which running back broke loose more often and which was more consistent. Idk...anything to make the numbers _meaningful!_
@@LeeHawkinsPhoto the only person who could make maths make sense to me was my younger sister. Unfortunately my brain decided early I was too stupid for such things 😔 and I never really recovered from it. I know I can do maths but my brains default reaction is 'too hard, I'm out.'
13:38 Nitpick: Current FHWA definitions make a "roundabout" and "traffic circle" distinct things. The primary distinction is that in a roundabout the traffic *on* the circular roadway is uncontrolled and has priority, whereas on traffic circles there are commonly lights that stop the circulating traffic.
I totally expected this nitpick, which is why I distinguished the first roundabout from a modern roundabout. You’re absolutely right that most regions of the US have a different term for a roundabout that isn’t a modern roundabout-often they’re called rotaries in the Northeast, and here in Ohio we call them traffic circles. But there are actually tons of little things besides just traffic controls that distinguish a modern roundabout from these old traffic circles. However, in Europe the term “roundabout” encompasses just about any circular roadway, so that’s why I distinguish using the term _modern roundabout_ instead of roundabout vs. traffic circle...the game has a very international audience.
@@LeeHawkinsPhoto I'm glad I stumbled across this! I'll be watching more of your videos.
You know I'm always appalled that twentieth century North American suburbs generate a $#!+ton of traffic when compared to traditional New England cities and towns that are just as dense if not more dense. It all comes down to zoning.
Now on to roundabouts. New England (again) particularly Massachusetts got a handle on its rotaries fairly early on when it eased the entry into and exit out of the circle with curves, and required traffic entering the rotary to yield to traffic inside the rotary. The yield control I think is the one move that makes this type of intersection function so much smoothly than four way stop signs and traffic lights. Which leaves me scratching my head why New Jersey never universally adopted this rule but instead signallised or got rid of most of its traffic circles.
Roundabouts are often nice, but even with mods they get "unrealistic" in Cities Skylines. Usually you have to make them way bigger than they would realistically be, and the traffic flow sometimes isn't easy to set up correctly.
That being said, they are not the greatest solution in real life either.
Close to where I live there is a roundabout that becomes a pain during rush hour. (So much so that I avoid driving there at those times). The big problem is that most of the traffic comes from the highway, and wants to cross to the left, with very less traffic coming FROM the left and wanting to go towards the high way. That causes that one direction to clog up the roundabout making it more difficult for the other two roads to enter.
I see this issue in Cities sometimes too, usually if your roundabouts are too small. (Which technically is a solution in real life too, just not an easy one)
In such situations I think a well timed traffic light would work better.
I always draw the roundabouts in Cities: Skylines by hand (with curved streets), making them much smaller, and it works fine for me, just like real roundabouts in Europe.
Your videos are amazing, so informative, so well put together and you really know your "Cities Skylines". Thank you so much ^^
Happy to help! Thanks so much for leaving a comment! 😊
This is the exact video I was looking for. thanks
Awesome! I wish I'd have found a video like this when I started playing!
@@LeeHawkinsPhoto I wish I had found your channel when I was new too
I’ve got over 1000 hours but there’s always more to learn and more nuance to uncover. Just like with real city planning!
Some great info here, thanks for the vid definitely useful for future builds ^^
I can't wait until the next video! I feel like I can't progress any further with this one coz I might break it! Off to make a new city and test what I've learnt while I wait for the next instalment....... also, I hit that Subscriiiiiiiiiibe LOL
Great videos!!! I already can't wait for the next episode!! :)
I much prefer putting in a spot of commercial here and there then putting it all in one area, or along one or a set of roads; I think of it like how parks have to be evenly distributed to have effective coverage (like in a lot of European countries, which they would do that more here, tbh..)
Great video and this series is phenomenal! Really hoping to see more of this town growth as I really enjoyed following along and building with you. Any updates on when it might be continuing? Keep up the great work!
No firm date yet, but it should be in the next few months, maybe weeks 😁
Lee, just curious if you’ll be making an episode 7-8 in this series? Would love to watch the city grow and expand and see how you’re going to start the public transit for the city.
It’s in the works. I had a pretty close family member die in 2021 and that’s set things back much worse than I expected. We’re still not quite functioning like before...
Excited for 5B1C
Me too! And nervous 😬 lol!
This video is right on the money! 👌
Wow subscribe without question man good work 👍
Nah bro this man be playing without any mods
Great Video as always! Thank you Lee, excited for the future of the city.
Thank you! Me too!!
Does zoning residential next to commercial lead to problems with noise pollution? What about with their high density variants?
Not significantly, at least for low density. High density can cause problems.
Did this series end? Can not find the next video in this series. Love them.....
I have more in the pipeline...2021 has been a brutal year for me personally, so that’s really gummed up production of the rest of the series. I’m hoping to get it back on track in the coming month or two.
Thanks Lee. Hope all is well and Happy New Year! Look forward to your next release.
Next Video please. My traffic is killing me
I'm hoping to get the next MMLT video out in the coming few weeks! And hopefully the next will be pretty closely behind. Thanks so much for watching!
Has this series been discontinued? Playing this from the playlist.
Not discontinued 😃 more is coming…real life just punched me in the gut a few times and it took a while to get back into videos
@@LeeHawkinsPhoto looking forward for it!
... Where is the next episode? Did I miss a link or something?
Life happened. We had a family member die from the pandemic. It’s been harder to get back into things than I expected. But more is definitely coming.
@@LeeHawkinsPhoto oh my God! I'm really sorry to hear that!
I really enjoyed the content so far!
Take the time. That really needs to heal.
My condolences!
ok ok, where is part 7 and 8?
Well worth the wait.
Glad you enjoyed! Part 7 will be along much sooner than 4 months 😁
Just followed this guide. Really enjoyed! Star wars impression had me laughing. Are there more coming from this series?
Keep your eyes out in the coming month or two
Has this series been discontinued? Just discovered and absolutely love it, however this appears to be the last episode released in what is about to be a year! If there are more episodes that I am unable to find I would greatly appreciate if someone were to link them
I have a rough cut (not 100% finished yet) of Part 7 on Patreon, and Part 8 has been caught in limbo because of hitting a wall last year from burning out, especially with the loss of my wife’s mom. This will be back! Don’t worry… 👍🏻
@@LeeHawkinsPhoto ah I’m so sorry to hear that. Don’t worry, no stress! Take as long as you need and I for one will watch it whenever it’s released. It’s a great series and has helped me a lot even with a few hundred hours in the game already
When can we hope to get a new video ?
Where is part 8?
one problem with traffic in this game is that the most optmial way is to have no traffic lights, simple because Aciddents don't exist, on the game...... in real life we need traffic lights,, wish they could improve it.....
I follow everything you're doing but for no reason I randomly loose a bunch of people
I think the real challenge is how this theory can work in big cities, with a big downtown area and a big generic industrial area.
I think the real point is that I brought this theory up...because it does work for big cities. 😉
@@LeeHawkinsPhoto I have no issue with this setup with smaller scale, but once I start to build a big downtown area, vans from generic industry are flooding into downtown.
@@huanglong08 the CBD should not be 100% commercial...you want to intersperse the zone types as the city grows. I’ll have further videos about this in the future. This will not be the last time I get into this. 🙂
Such a great series, I can't wait for the next video... Wait ...: One year ago..? Where's the rest of this series.?
He's said he's working on new videos for the series
And hopefully I’ll have at least one of them in the next week or two…I’m grinding away at a trilogy right now…
Stop signs are ludicrous. The whole world uses Give Way (yield) signs in heavily populated areas with absolutely no problem whatsoever. I cannot comprehend why the U.S. and this game are unable to grasp this simple concept.
I can't speculate much on that...the answer might make for an interesting video though 😁
You're sure that "the whole world uses yield signs", are you? Many areas of the world use no signs or signals at all at most intersections. They often don't bother to pave their roads either. The roads are often quite narrow too. Of course, their traffic is pretty chaotic as a result, but somehow most people survive their daily trips because the speeds are low.
Here in North America we prefer our streets to be paved and wide. This encourages dangerous speeds that must be countered with stop signs at junctions with cross traffic.
Because in America, "yield" (give way) means slow down and cut off the traffic that has the right of way. Even cops do it. "Stop" on the other hand functions like a "yield" should: roll the stop but come to a full stop only when you must (when there's traffic, or the police are there especially if you're black).
Here in Russia (and most parts of Europe), a stop sign is only ever used if the junction has bad visibility, or if the crash rate at that junction is high.
10:47
Alright! I look forward to that video.
Good content as always, Lee.
Thank you 😊 and I can’t wait to share it myself!
PS : Would be nice to put the part number in the title, so we can easily follow the links.
Would love to do that, but while it helps bingers such as you, it can discourage views from people new to the channel...so I have playlists on my channel page that put them all in order 😁
what happend to part 8 ?
Or Part 7?!
How would you go about office zoning? Considering it doesn't add heavy traffic. Would you recommend zoning it similar to comercial or do you have any other guidelines/tips?
Great question! I didn't address that in this video much, but the short answer is that I usually intersperse it to buffer between high density commercial and residential, and between industrial and residential. Office zones tolerate ground and noise pollution much better than residential ever will, and it provides jobs without ratcheting up the traffic since it's within walking distance of the main roads that usually have transit and within walking distance of so much residential. So it's a win-win-win!
I'll have more on that though as we upzone the city!
@@LeeHawkinsPhoto great, thank you very much
This was fantastic
Awesome! I hope it helps you out!
Great video👌
so good video, thanks
Happy you enjoyed ☺️
Part 8... i completed the map layout from your sketch, was part 8 not published?
Part 7 hasn’t been either...but hopefully we’ll get that happening in the coming weeks.......
Are "ring ways" a thing? In the Netherlands many cities have in inner city where cars are discouraged. Most traffic is steered through the rings. Just like having the tiers of main roads and collector roads.
But is it advisable to build these in a circle/square around a downtown area and around the city as a whole? They function a bit like a roundabout on a much larger scale.
That is a complicated question with a somewhat equally complicated set of answers. I would say the answer could go either way, depending on so many other factors like land use patterns, walkability, etc. Those sorts of things will eventually get addressed in future videos as things progress. I’m a huge fan of Dutch urban planning and want to do a whole lot more with it.
@@LeeHawkinsPhoto
Yeah, the Netherlands has very interesting cities. Because all centers grew organically before cars were a thing, you don't have grids and many parts aren't that suited to much traffic. And we have a lot of pedestrians and cyclists so inner city traffic is a challenge. Both good reasons to discourage cars further. (I have a drivings license but don't think I'll ever get a car).
I guess with heavy grids you could get a similar effect to a ring, just some avenues and streets drawing most traffic. If certain parts have extra lanes and/or more speed in a nice shape you could call that a ring. Maybe, like a roundabout, they work excellently up to a certain point, than clog up terribly. Collector roads could take any shape, Y or X shapes with extra lines that may work better.
@@teambellavsteamalice I definitely think you'll see grids as having some unique benefits when I finally get Part 8 done. I am _hoping_ to get that polished off in the next 2 months... _hoping._
LET'S GOOOOO!!!
Is there another episode of this or did it end here?
There’s more in the works. 2021 was an awful year for me and I’m still trying to regain my footing from it.
Did you made a part 8 video?
It's in the works. Part 7 is mostly done already. Part 8 is about 50% done. Hopefully I'll get it done in the next month or two.
This video is really interesting and informative! I've been looking for more advice on how to use stop signs and traffic lights in C:S properly for quite some time now :)
So thanks a lot for making this video, I really enjoyed it and find it very helpful! And I already have my eyes on a few other videos on your channel, so I'm looking forward to them :D
Also, thanks a lot @CityPlannerPlays for sending me here :)
Hey, glad you made it over! I'm so happy this helped!
Hey anyway to go into more details with how long the roads need to be in the first parts?!
They’re 12 x 12 unit blocks...I think we answered that in Discord too
@@LeeHawkinsPhoto yes sir this was before I found discord 😂
Traffic choked my city. Then my city choked my ram. 😁
You’re in good company then!
So cool!! Il love this series!!!!!
Thank you! What's your favorite so far?
@@LeeHawkinsPhoto my favorite series?
@@romain4764 favorite episode in this series
@@LeeHawkinsPhoto the third.
@@romain4764 interesting! Gotta love those fly noises 😂
Did... Did you zone industrial right next to residential?...
Yes! You can get away with it when it’s forestry or farming...it’s a bit noisy, but there’s no ground pollution. A lot stuff will get moved around when I bring the railroad in and office zones become available. I like to keep things compact so cims decide to walk.