Skyrim - Why the Orcs Always Lose - Elder Scrolls Lore
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In our latest Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim video we go deep into the lore to explain why the orcs always lose.
The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim is an open world action role-playing video game developed by Bethesda Game Studios and published by Bethesda Softworks. It is the fifth main installment in The Elder Scrolls series, following The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion, and was released worldwide for Microsoft Windows, PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360 on November 11, 2011.
The game's main story revolves around the player character and their quest to defeat Alduin the World-Eater, a dragon who is prophesied to destroy the world. The videogame is set two hundred years after the events of Oblivion, and takes place in the fictional province of Skyrim. Over the course of the game, the player completes quests and develops the character by improving skills. The game continues the open world tradition of its predecessors by allowing the player to travel anywhere in the game world at any time, and to ignore or postpone the main storyline indefinitely.
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One of my favorite characters I made in Skyrim was an old orc named Mar-Dagg. My headcanon for him was he had come to Skyrim to die since he had heard it was a dangerous place. I fought everyone who started anything, and went into every cave looking for monsters to fight and kill me. Did rather well for a while, but eventually fell to a Master Vampire in some murky cave. I felt it was a good death for Mar-Dagg, and I never played him again, as he had earned his good death.
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But he fought his way back to daylight?
Yeah...i had a similar idea and that poetic and epic ending was ...a fucking crab.
@@m4eou dont worry bud
You know when enemies say "Ive fought mudcrabs tougher than you"?
Well the crab that killed you is the one theyre all talking about.
Ah yes the head canon! My first character in Skyrim was an imperial ( I usually play dunmer in elderscrolls). My head canon was that he was the son of a high ranking soldier in the imperial Legion who was killed at the battle of the red ring. He journeyed to Skyrim on the run from thalmor assassin's that want him dead for his family's loyalty to the Empire. In the end he was quite powerful with a sword and board and ended up being turned into a vampire by catching the disease. (pre dawn guard) and was killed in battle with a dragon priest on a high difficulty. Good times. Next character was a dunmer. 10/10
thanks, now i know more about tamriel history than my own country
Oof
Good
Is that a bad thing or are we fine
Me too!!!
bro i listened to 200 episodes of a elder scrolls lore podcasts, sooooo many books read in game, so many youtube videos watched, not to mention all the hours playing daggerfall, morrowind, oblivion and skyrim... all to realize it’s all fake and i have nobody else to talk to abt this knowledge of virtually nothing .... lolz
Orc: 'my people look like this because we were cursed by Boethiah'
Me, an intellectual: 'no, pretty sure its the years of incest that did it'
Looks like they learned from a dynasty from another universe
@@Darthwgamer Targaryens?
@@HWDragonborn no, he means the hapsburgs the tergsryanes are based of them as well and fantasy so why even bring it up how pathetic
@@Darthwgamer Which one? Because that was super common among royalty.
@@makeytgreatagain6256 Habsburgs were small time compared to Egyptian dynasties. Egyptian pharaoh lineages were generally brother/sister marriages for generations on end.
Orcs: *Builds a city*
Bretons and Redguards: Allow us to introduce ourselves
Orcs: build a city
Redguards and bretons: it's free real estate
Oh HERE WE GO Orcs playing the Victim/Race card again
JW Money They made me racist
Bretons and redguards: *hate each other*
Orcs: *exist*
Bretons:Prepare for trouble
Redguards: And make it double
@@NiCoNiCoNiCola OMG! 🤣
"No one defeats an Orc", along with "You dare fight a Dunmer", are signs you are about to win the fight.
"No one BESTS an Orc"
@Juggled Lotus ya meant Imperial my boah?
@@NiCoNiCoNiCola - nah, he meant Bretons.
@@jacrispy3275 Nah, he meant dwemers. Infact, dwemers never dissappeared. We are the dwemers
Nikolo Kavacio Nah, he meant nords
Excuse me? I know an orc at the bards college and he isn’t raiding, killing, or engaging in tribal wars of succession. #notallorcs
and the guy who owns the fucking huge library in the college of winterhold
...who probably also owns a Plane of Oblivion
The Gourmet!
David Howard *Ripped apart by atronachs.
#notallorcs
I knew a Orc that was the greatest Chef to ever live.
Guess his clan pronounced Chief lik Chef, so he midunderstood them and actuallt became chef
Not many would recall and understand that statement.
He authored a cook book, did he not?
@@curtisfranzen986 The gourmet
@@coolasf1527 I know, I was being sarcastic. But still, his chocolate patte gives me the runs.
Too bad you fucking killed him
They have a severe issue with their culture: it is self-limiting. In Strongholds, only the strongest male get to have wives and have children. But what about establishing new Strongholds, etc? Not exactly easy with the severely limited amount of orcish women outside strongholds. Compare that to a normal culture, where say the eldest son inherits the farm, gets a wife and children, while the other sons and daughters seek their fortune elsewhere through marriage and settling new lands, etc. Such a culture spreads. Orcish civilisation is stagnant.
Yeah that leader of the pack shit is Stone Age
Its also horrible for genetic diversity. One father means an entire Orcish bloodline is almost exclusively inbreeding by the second generation, and gets worse as it goes on.
Assuming they live that long, Orcs a handful of generations down the tree, will eventually be so inbred, that almost every child born further will, at minimum, be sterile.
I was gonna disagree...but your right. Limiting their own gene pool
It is very likely this doesn't a part of normal orcish culture but is forced on the orcs after orsinium fell as they became more and more tribal.
@@iterationfackshet1990 I mean orsinium itself was also rebuilt and does currently exist as in 4e 201
"Because the chieftain ends up with all the wives, all of the challengers tend to be his sons. So the chieftain gets all the wives and all the children, and his sons will grow up to become-"
Motherfuckers
Also their sisters.
I'm sure the women must migrate through different clans... at least I hope
@@profoundprocrastinator they do, orcs trade daughters around
lol!
@@profoundprocrastinator the sons probably do too, atleast the ones not confident and/or strong enough to challenge the chief. they would then seek fortune elsewhere, try to challenge the chief of a different tribe or become bandits, adventurers or mercenaries.
Everytime I watch Skyrim videos like these, I can't help but imagine what the NPCs see when the camera passes them by.
Like a T-pose Dragonborn just floating across the heavens looking down at them, passing through walls like a ghost, and slowly approaching them with a blank face, all in pure silence.
I too like to think on strange things others don't normally.
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@DEEJMASTER 333 Und er meditierte drei Jahre lang und sah den künftigen Buddha Maitreya nicht.
Dragonborn Cryptid
asserting dominance
Another thing to remember -
The orcs were never a large race, just a cult of elves who worshipped trinimac - not even all of the elves who worshipped trinimac, but the sect mobilized against veloth.
So, that's sort of like asking why the Liechtenstein populace never conquered our europe - were talking about tribes from a single source in comparison to legit nation-states
@C A cuz game mechanics
Exactly. Well spoken, Zack.
at least Liechtenstein is a place.
So were the chimers, but they turned out to be a master race unlike orcs - cause I think Malacath is an idiot.. Unlike Azura and Boethiah ,
@C A The Greeks(mostly) weren't unified and had similar armor and weapons. They weren't tribes but separate city states is somewhat similar.
The Orcs always lose for a couple of reasons.
The first are real, physical reasons. The Orcs have always been persecuted. Have you been to the Dragontails in ESO? Good luck farmer there. Or harvesting a lot of other resources. Mining sure, but that takes time to set up and Orsininium almost always immediately comes under attack or pressure from outside.
The second real reason: magic. The Orcs fear magic, kind of like the Nords but maybe not as much. They would almost surely have far less mages or sorcerers to send to battle, a decided disadvantage in the Elder Scrolls universe.
The other reason they always fail is metaphysical. The Orcs are tied to Trinimac, and thus Malacath. Malacath is a cursed god. The god of outcasts. The god of the broken. The Orcs are his people.
If Orsininium was successful, would the Orcs still be outcast, broken, children of Malacath?
Malacath is also a warrior god. And the attempt to FOUND Orsininium also fits his personality. So the cycle of rise and fall for Orsininium is a mirror of Malacath in the world. He is drawn to acts of valor and bravery; Malacath WANTS a challenge. But he is also cursed, broken, outcast. Cursed to forever strive to climb a mountain, and fail in the end.
Malacath and the Orcs are the Elder Scrolls version of Sisyphus.
Good comment, just an observation. The orcs do not fear magic. In fact, they have their own style of magic regularly managed by the "wisewomen". But being a warrior culture, they do not pay so much attention to the formal development of magic.
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Mmm no. The orcs could speak, since before they were orcs they were altmers. And they also developed their own language.
The Thalmor would have you believe in thier narrative. It's all lies! There is only one true God! And it's Malacath!
What doesn’t kill Orcs, only makes them stronger.
@CommandoDude what I'm confused about is that one entry claims that the Orcs are the best warriors. Another claims it's the Redguards. Another says it's the Nords. Is this a case of propaganda?
I always liked how they showed that organisation and discipline can be more important than strength
Fat Hank Yep
The Imperials are all about organization and they found empires. Most other factions emphasize a balance and at least have provinces. The Orcs are all strength, all the time, and always lose.
Fred Thacker didn't they create the first empire? I'm actually not sure
@Fred Thacker: There was the nordic empire back in Ysgramor's time, true. Then came Alessia's 1st empire (founded by proto-Imperials with Nord help). Reman's 2nd (founded by Imperials) and Tiber Septim's 3rd (founded by Nords and Colovians [read Imperials].
Fred Thacker but is that not the third empire not the first empire?
FudgeMuppet: Why the Orcs Always Lose?
Snow elves: Am I a Joke to You?
Percie Jackson Snow Elves!?
Lexus Fox the falmer
Percie Jackson THE FALMER ARE ELVES!?😱
Lexus Fox yes they are. Look up the wikia
@@LexusFox Haven't you played the dawn guard dlc? When you try to retrieve auriel's bow you actually find 2 living snow elves who haven't been blinded and corrupted.
Orcs: Building a city
Redguards and Bretons: *Its Free Real Estate*
The Face of Woah THE BEST MEME
They should paint it purple
DP to the orcs lol
*not that free real estate because it took 4 years of 2v1 with the orcs while they had a growing empire that wasn’t even fully built yet
I think there's a pretty simple explanation: the Orcs' inability to form a nation permanently is a blessing/curse from Malacath to remind them of their connection to him. He's the prince of the rejected and spurned, so his children are rejected and spurned. If the Orcs permanently establish a nation they would earn respect and recognition over time, which Malacath's sphere doesn't represent. He probably thinks it benefits them (sort of how Sheogorath thinks of madness as merciful).
“If you want to see the kind of person you really are, start taking shit away.”- Wes Watson
Because everyone always invade their swamp and have pet donkeys
Guts The Self-Appointed Knight ...once told me...
The world is gonna roll me...
thats ogres, not orcs
And because they have to many LAYERS!!!
Orcs look like shrek in oblivion
“Anyways, back to Orsinium being sacked again...”
Todd howard just hates orcs
I scrolled past this just as it was said in the video...
What else would you expect from a talentless hack like him? Of course the "ugly" race will be stupid and evil with few or zero redeeming qualities.
RedFeetInventroyOG The history of Orsinium predates Todd's promotion to head developer.
Cantrips Orichalcum was supposed to be the Redguards' thing, becore some absolute moron thought "It starts with the same two letters as Orc!" and made it an Orc thing. In Morrowind and Oblivion Orcish armor was definitely made of steel but it was put together far better than any other steel armor, which was really cool.
>Dunmer enters an Orc stronghold
>Dunmer: "I'M GONNA SAY THE N-WORD"
*N'WAH*
*Nord*
Despite making up only ten percent of the population of Skyrim, orsimer make up over fifty percent of violent warriors.
N'WAH
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Probably already said but; "It's not easy being green."
I think it's interesting to note that Malacath likely prefers his chosen people to have no respect or consistent province of their own. He values strength through adversity and hardship. If the orcs had their own consistent province, somewhere comfortable and safe, it probably wouldn't sit well with Malacath.
Look at the Cursed Tribe quest in Skyrim. Malacath harshly punished Yamarz because he had become soft and comfortable. It's highly possible that he'd do the same to any orcs who become too comfortable in the same kind of province the other races have. No, they're Malacath's children. They do not grow weak, trusting only in the strength of walls and borders over their own personal power. They are strong because they struggle, because they are outcast.
To me, it's possible Malacath has a hand in ensuring there is no stability or major victory for the orcs. Stability and victory, anything which leads to comfort or complacency... these things are not for the children of Malacath.
Very, very very interesting theory Epsilon. I never thought of it that way ;-) But you are right, it's a cool theory that makes total sense. Yamarz was indeed a soft leader.
While in Imperial society, imperials might consider a poet or a laywer to be high status. Now on the other hand, imagine Malacath beholding at an Orcish poet or laywer lol ;-)
That's gonna be their doom, and the children of Malacath will die.
Epsilon being a savage brings balance to the world but it's not a life i would choose to live by in my lifetime. The lives of these orcs are curious, threatening and pitiful.
New headcanon
"We respect strength and strength alone."
Because they don't use the atronach stone
But when a breton uses the atronach stone... Miaq thinks bretons are the master race
Aye LeBron nice play between Tristian's legs for the and one the other night man
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Because no Fungus Beer!
m1rock
No man
“No one bests a orc!”
*proceeds to get stabbed in the stomach*
No one best a orc presides to get there collective ass kicked by the main characters
The real question is who's *really* the gourmet?
Boethia i guess 🤔
Because Malacath. Think about it. He's the Prince of the Spurned and Ostracized, and patron deity of the Orcs. If the Orcs were ever be solidly on the top of the totem pole, they would no longer be spurned and ostracized. So, to keep his followers. Malacath is constantly arranging for the Orcs as a whole to fail. So they keep spurned and continue praying to their god-daddy.
Which is what my Orc character that I'll play soon-ish has realized. He respects Malacath well enough, but this tribal lifestyle he wants the Orsimer to life? That's stupid. Sitting in their small family groups doing nothing while a genocidal empire is carving Tamriel up? That's stupid. While Dragons are burning everyone's faces away? Stupid. The Orcs should go out there and arrange a date between their warhammer and a Thalmor's skull.
Marcus Tullius Cicero Orc resurgence, unite with stormcloaks, ally with Argonian and Dunmer, unite all the Orc clans and stick it to the Altmeri Dominion!
This have been my theory for quite some time.
You know,I recently had theory about this.....remember how it is said that Boethiah consumed and took Trinimac form,and started spreading lies? What if Boethiah (disguised has Trinimac) managed to make Trinimac's follower hate him,reject him.Maybe the lack of Faith of is follower hurted him so much that he ''died'' and became Malacath,who then gave the same treatment to is followers. Spurned and ostracized,like they did to him.And he want things to stay like this.
Is it a coincidence that everytime Orsinium grow strong,there's a rebirth of faith in Trinimac,just to be crushed again ?
The Altmer run a very heavy-handed policy in Valenwood, some would say that they have the province occupied. Dissidents are rather mercilessly hunted down, see for example Malborn's backstory. Then there also was the Night of Green Fire.
And then there is the end-goal of the Thalmor of course, although this is unknown to the rest of Tamriel. They want to unravel existence so that the Elvish souls can once more achieve immortality. To them, life is a prison. And to break out of this prison, they have to bring down the Towers that keep Nirn stable. Luckily for them, by the beginning of the 4th Era all but three had already been either destroyed or lost their stone and thus went inert:
Orichalc went down with Yokuda
Red Tower (Red Mountain) got its stone (the Heart of Lorkhan) destroyed
Walk-Brass (Numidium) was destroyed during the Warp in the West
Crystal-Like-Law (Crystal Tower) fell during the Oblivion Crisis
White-Gold (White Gold Tower) got its stone (the Amulet of Kings) destroyed at the end of the Oblivion Crisis
Which left only the following three remaining:
Ada-Mantia (Adamantine Tower) with the Convention as its Stone
Snow-Throat (the Throat of the World) with "the cave" as its Stone
Green-Sap (a network of graht-oak trees) with "a fruit" as its Stone
Green-Sap is most likely gone by 4E 201 because Valenwood is held by the Dominion, leaving only Ada-Mantia and Snow-Throat.
The Thalmor seem to have opted to knock out Ada-Mantia by destroying its stone, the Convention. The trial and punishment of Lorkhan at the beginning of time. And to do that, they seek to remove Lorkhan's influence from Nirn. Which is why they banned Talos worship, because Talos is technically just Tiber Septim mantling Lorkhan. But this alone will not suffice, as as long as there are Humans, Lorkhan still has agents with which he can influence the world.
So humanity has to be eradicated.
Malacath AKA the God of Eternal Victimhood.
Murkrow42 El rey oscuro Actually, the ultimate goal of the Thalmor is to wipe out all of humanity. This is why they outlawed the worship of Talos, because he won't have the power to protect humanity from the Dominion if not enough people worship him. It's a very long term goal that they intend to active slowly, but surely.
I tried making a orc character in skyrim but deleted because whenever he swung his weapon he would make a noise like " hrrg" or "hurrh" really loud and was super annoying
HRRRURRHHH
HNGOERARRRERAIRERR
Hahaha hilarious
They have the best voice in the game. It's better than being a badass buff bearded nord with the voice of a child
i actually liked that, they have the voice of a true beast warrior, not like the nords or redguards xD
My main is an orc and I got so used to it I thought everyone did it😂😂
Tbh I love Orcs. Even though they are indeed huge losers. They’re *my* huge losers though.
I just love that they're not only losers but they worship a loser as well
Sometimes I feel like the only Elder Scrolls player that plays a orc 😂😭
You aren't an orc! You are just a breton with green skin!
-Soldier, i think...
I play an orc!!! They're the best!
I love playing as an orc. Sure there are other Warrior/tank classes, but Orcs to me fit my play style the best.
As someone who is a skinny and weak girl, playing a badass axe wielding orc lady is my dream.
porky forky would beg to differ
'Cause they don't have enough layers
Yeah, unlike the magnificence of the ogres.
Youre thinking of ogres
I love you
Is that the... *cough cough* joke for added protection in case she visits your swamp?
Don't worry, in the morning I'm making waffles
Nonsense, Orcs can never lose. If they win, they win. If they die, they die fightin' so it doesn't count. If they make a run for it, they can always have another go at it, see?
Matteus Silvestre I assume that by saying "making a run for it" you are referring to a mighty orsimer bezerker battle charge. I can't think of any other circumstance that an orc would run in the middle of a battle.
Matteus Silvestre nah I’ve beaten up orcs many times and they’ve conceded many times to me. One even said he lost after a brawl.
Matteus Silvestre heresy.
I understood that reference.
dorgesh its a warhammer reference
The orsimer are held back by Malacath. Following Malacath generally involves not trusting others and being wary of anyone from outside your chiefdom. If the orcs would follow Trinimac, as explored in the ESO Orsinium DLC, they would actually have a reason to start trusting eachother, and they would being able to finally work together to build something lasting. As things are, however, they won't progress because Malacath's teachings are not at remotely conducive to progress.
I'd love to see a story arc in Elder Scrolls VI where an Orsimer (a Genghis Khan-like figure) reorganizes and leads the Orsinium to a level of prominance that results in it having a province of its own... Ideally, letting you fight with or against him and the end of the fight resulting in the size of the province at the end rather than whether or not it exists at the end. This political decision would definitely have to have bearing on how other factions and regions treated you as you travel and a Redguard/Orsimer war would just be fun to take part in (all the while dealing with the looming threat of the Thalmor...perhaps open war which would be why the Orsimer have the chance to make thier move to begin with... And why a player siding with the Orsimer might not be executed in some major Redguard holdings.
This would be perfect if ESVI is set in hammerfell
I love how everyone in the comments is discussing the lore and I'm just here like "I have no idea what any of this shit is or what I am fighting for,but i know that dragons are bad and I kill dragons"
meanwhile me "why kill dragon when you can ride it....and released them to live another day"i think i have been corrupted by miraak power
I love these type of vids!
"Are Argonians Weak?"
"Why the Orcs Always Lose?"
*Do more like this for other races!*
Orcs are not weak though. They live in harsher conditions than everyone else.
Democractic Peoples Republic of Korea No one said they were.
If you meant *Argonians,* then I suggest you watch their vid to understand what it means.
Democractic Peoples Republic of Korea They're not very smart either thus not very advanced. They are said to be best smiths but most of them still wear hide or leather not their classic orc armor which would actually put them ahead of guards and soldiers.
But they still don't have great numbers because only chief can breed and many kids probably die as well from their lifestyle and lack of cooperation with people and settlements other than their strongholds if they need medical attention.
I mean they are always being beaten by weaker species such as hobbits and humans.
They are portrayed as dumb in Skyrim but there should be a series on the Orcs to show them properly because I'm sick of seeing them get beaten by inferior races.
There strong, but too independent
That breeding rule is kind of limited...I'm guessing orcs that live in other provinces or cities don't follow it? There not in a stronghold, and there would be no chieftain, so it's not like there'd be anything stopping a "city orc" from having offspring, even if there weaker then any stronghold chief. With so many orcs leaving strongholds to settle in cities, it kind of seems like there artificial natural selection would start to be weeded out, and they could even start catching up to the other races. Maybe it's for the best that orcs don't have there own province? I mean, orsinium was basically just one big stronghold, so maybe smaller populations scattered around tamriel and it's other provinces are the best way to ensure that orcs as a race are as strong as possible...just voicing a thought though.
Thats why orc left the tribe...
My cousins out fighting dragons and what do i get? Fudge Muppet duty
Sooo, nords are conciderd racist, while they fought the elves once and after that only hated them. The bretons and redguards slaughter the orcs multiple times and they aren't even seen as xenofobic.
Wouter Castermans they are, but skyrim forced us to focus on nordic xenophobia and racial discrimination while breton and redguard xenophobia is only in in game books
Oh every race in Elder Scrolls is extremely xenophobic, not just Nords. Nords traditionally have hated all elves though, especially the Dunmer. I think it mostly comes from their general fear and misunderstanding of magic as most elves are magically gifted races in general. The hatred of Dunmer is definitely a bit more personal though.
+Saab Story No, it's because the snow elves were huge dicks against them and killed of an entire city (Saarhal). Also Nords were far from against magic until the Winterhold College destroyed half of Winterhold.
Shruk Pls - yeah the Skaal are nords and they still practice a type of magic don't they? Though I think what they do is more druidism then magic.
Yes, the Snow Elves and Nords didn't get along very much and then the later conflicts with the Dunmer around the time the Dwemer disappeared definitely didn't help their sentiment towards Elves in general. The Nords didn't value magic in the same way mer did traditionally the Oblivion crisis and Winterhold collapse really did make everyone abandon it and start to truly fear it. They're a physical culture and value a strong shield arm over knowledge and always have, that's for sure.
*Before watching* Cuz they're idiots?
*After watching* So, they were idiots, got it.
@C A lmfao
*the orc in winterhold comes over to tear you apart with angry atronachs*
@@vxDAZZAvx are they tho? I can kinda see the tribal shit but what else
@@tetsumeaoepaidowha8394 stronger but more primitive civilisation lol. Usually based in wastelands in huts lol. Big nostrils lol
@@vxDAZZAvx I get the nostrils and and huts but I think it comes down more to the individual for strength
What if they made Elder Scrolls 6 about someone who rebuilds orisinium for good, but you can choose whether to do this through sheer ruthlessness or diplomacy. I think that would be really cool.
It would be interesting but couldn’t be a full game. There’s not enough orcs, not enough fans of orcs, and not enough things to do in orsinium due to not being very connected with the rest of the world. However it could certainly be a major piece of the plot in an elder scrolls game and while I did say there’s not enough to do in it for a game I mean more so large scale there wouldn’t be a mages guild or more developed factions really only malocath and Trinimac cults maybe. But like I said could definitely be a piece in a new game.
@@eccentricamalgamations9106 Bethesda could basically make a city building game out of the Orsinium concept though. That's a genre all on its own so you could do something with the idea without it having to be a main series installment.
What if I wanted to turn Orsinium into a Orc auschwitz?
Naw, playing as Khajiit in Elsweyr or Argonian in Black Marsh sounds much more interesting
@@NiCoNiCoNiCola - Black Marsh is probably a big no-no, seeing as the disease kills every race that ISN'T an Argonian. And Kahjiits' lore & culture is way too complicated for a whole game. I, personally, like High Rock.
the orsinium dlc was so good in ESO. I’m not usually a fan of orcs but the whole questline was super interesting. I also helped a lady orc become chieftain of one of the clans. That was fun.
The Thalmor noticed the weakness of the Orcs and they used the same strategy in the Skyrim Civil War.
*Divide & Conquer* and *Civil Conflict* makes nations weak and vulnerable.
Which certainly doesn't sound at all like the US due to out of control polarization and hate of those with different opinions and constant dehumanization of anyone right of Gandhi.
Censored by TH-cam safespace Don't you mean the Nazis?
Censored by TH-cam safespace so they are jewish nazis?
l3054 That's why ISIS never attacks Israel, right? Fucking moron. Look up who is actually behind Open Society Foundation that has been pushing for this shit. Look up who owns the Federal Reserve and by extension the petrodollar which is the reason for all these wars that created the situation in the first place. Who runs the European Parliament? Who runs Goldman Sachs? All fucking yids.
l3054 That land belongs to their historical inhabitants who are the Palestinians. It's ironic that you call me anti-semitic while defending the khazars who murder Palestinians (actual semites) and steal their lands.
This is why I loved Kurog in the Elder Scrolls Online. His vision of a united Orc nation, and doing away with all the traditions that held them back was what the Orcs needed to thrive, but he did it too fast without regard for his subjects. He should've kept some traditions, like beating all the orc chiefs in a fair fight, but sparing them so he could serve him as generals
Simply being strong isn't a guarantee of winning wars and conquest. Some of the best armies in history were of people who physically not imposing.
like ?
@@lennarthumpf8031 Example Number One: Roman Legionnaires. They averaged a few inches shorter than the Germanic warriors they squared off with, and until the reign of Octavian Caesar Augustus, would routinely inflict an order of magnitude more casualties- if not more, than they took.
The Mongolians of Temujin were physically smaller than most of the people they fought.
I went looking for information on the Huns, but with their style of mounted archery warfare that too would've completely mitigated any value in size.
@@johnsteiner3417 legionaires are a perfect example of what I mean
marching an average of 30 kilometers a day with up to 35 kg of equipment just to build a camp in time before nightfall; being able to hold up their scutum while wearing their armour for hours in battle
They were very much physically imposing despite being shorter than say the Germans or dacians
@@lennarthumpf8031That's wholly different from the original point of physically large warriors, and in today's spec ops, often the opposite.
@pokezee king-wolf still doesn't mean the Roman's weren't physically imposing
So what you're saying is.. clean up your room?
J(orc)dan Peterson
Mudcrabs form a hierarchy made up of male and female gender roles.
Well that depends on what you mean by the words "clean" and "room". It's not obvious what you mean by "up" either. It's no joke man.
In all seriousness though, what inspired you to reference JBP on a Skyrim video?
@@Soulslayer612 Free association.
13:23 SHE'S HAVING BREAD FLAVORED ALE! it's my favourite as well
lisa ratt, I love the classic taste of breaded ale
Extreme amounts of yeast
me too. mm yeast #yeastlyfe
lisa ratt i was about to comment that you theif!!!!!!!!!
Lol jk
But i was like "how does that even happen?
Still bit as bad as fo4 tho.....
Kvass
"Why the Orcs Always Lose"
hmm idk maybe that Old Orc in skyrim that basically said "yo kill me pls" had something to say about it
Igor give him a good death....
Is he like the new Umbra I swear Skyrim is just a shitty Morrowind
@@lamolambda8349 How dare you call another elder scrolls bad by the name of another elder scrolls.
@@Checo43 Cmon just admit Oblivion and Skyrim vanillaed a genius game out
@@lamolambda8349 Each game was a masterpiece, and Skyrim is easily considered be best of them all by most ES fans, Morrowind was a masterpiece as well and probably has the best storyline, but the elder scrolls greatness doesn't stop there. Each of the games have their own flaws too, more noticeable as time goes by, but they were more successful each time for a reason. I hope you were kidding, if not I'm really sorry for you lol
In Daggerfall, they were just inarticulated barbaric beasts. They make great heavy infantrimen though. When backed by imperial logistics and tactics.
Maybe that’s just how people perceived them.
I see on possibility for the Orcs. Perhaps a Genghis Kahn like leader can unite the Orcs.
yo... thatd be a great next installment. we did the existential crisis couple of times, gates of hell opening, world eater dragons reborn - lets just take a fuckin step back and have a orc genghis khan for a main villain
@@MertSu66 Villain? Make him the protagonist :)
Otto von Bismark will unite all the small orc tribes and make a big, strong nation!
Ghost *Orco von Bismark
@@Ghost-on5dz That's actually a really good, historical analogy you just made there. Although, the idea of a "purifying" race might be closer portrayed by the High Elves, specifically the Thalmor
It's because they sided with the Dark Lord.
daemonCaptrix sauron can be a real bitch
Brigth referance ?
daemonCaptrix it's a bright reference you know the movie
daemonCaptrix bright was an excellent film
Thought you meant papa franku
I never understood why orcs could never win or had an actual country thanks for clearing this up
Overripe Llama they had, orsinium. A small province in the wrothgarium mountains between Skyrim and Highrock. Irony is they always got pillaged.
George Burner They were tolerated untill they started pillaging others.
Edin wrong it was not the fault of orsinium raiding outhers it was because 2 Clans went Directly against their own king to raid for the sake of raiding even thought they allredey had plenty of food and services
RedFeetInventroyOG they still pillaged.
Yes the fact is however the entirity of Orsinium would not've been sacked you can't say regardless the orc's pilledged it was part of Orsinium that went directly against their king simply out of bordem
Despite orcs making up 13% of the Skyrim population......
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Orcs need affirmative action.
Mostly bandits tho
the past is elven, the present in man, the future is orc!
That's an interesting way to spell Khajitt
Orcs, shmorks, I'm more upset that you can't play as dwarves.
@@Io-vz2jq it's more complicated than that.
They are called deep elves you uncultured swine.
@@sketep1117 but its basically that.
@@koppunch they misteryously disappeared and it is heavily implied they are still alive somewhere.
James Bauer sigh this community doesn’t really know shit about lore lol
2:45 "Malakath, also known as the Daedric prince of the ostracised, the spurned and the BLOODY OATH mate"
FudgeMuppet: Why the orcs always loose?
The Argonians: Am I a joke to you?
They're currentpy doing just fine invading morrowwind post red mountain eruption
The argonians literally invaded the Deadlands.
Orcs: Build a city
Bretons & Redguards: So you have chosen...
*DEATH.*
I love how this has so much lore you can make a 15 minute video over orcs making cities.
The nords always trying to keep a bruddha orc down.
Institutional Racism is why orcs arent flying with the gods in pyramids of orichalcum
NORD PRIVELAGE!
Wing Onn the effing elfs are taking over and killing the nords and changing their culture and values their jerbs it's a nord genocide :(
lone wanderer By Ysgamor we will build a wall around skyrim to keep those damn immigrants out! And make the damn Empire pay for the damn wall!
Skyrim for the Nords!
fug :D lol 😂 i spent a huge amount of time jumping to get to other side of the map every time I played skyrim 😂
I remember I did an experiment years ago when in the start of the game you go from Helgen straight to winter hold and I did this with every race and the only one that could do it without getting killed was the orc it was interesting I'd like to see someone else try this
Wow cool
Being Orc mage is a bad thing.
Being High Elf/Breton mage is a better thing
carter hajek The rng of the enemy spawns makes the experiment inaccurate.
Somebody should make a Skyrim mod called "Rise of The Orcs" where you control an orc and bring glory to your people!!! :D
This is some orc race realism
Na the orc commit incest so they're more like whites
@@afrohighborn262 statistically untrue, inbreeding is significantly more common among third world races.
@@-JimmyRustle- I'm more than sure only a few hundred years ago inbreeding with whites was a openly common thing also many white have sex amongs themselves but these r behind close doors so statically there's no way of tell how much. Also so me a static that stats that what u said is a fact.
@@afrohighborn262 your grammar is so staggeringly horrible that I'd wager you yourself are inbred. If whites "have sex among themselves" (white people do indeed have sex with other white people), but it's kept secret, then how would you know? I know you're a black nationalist and that's fine, but this isn't how you represent yourself.
@Keith Ray Ha look at you.... Desperately trying to nit pick in order to form an argument. As if majority of the people on the Internet bother to long type. But that's what white people do play dumb and pretend they have no clue what's being typed or said. But hey it's a tactic that has worked.
Because they didn't use berserker rage.
It'd be cool if Orsinium is back in ES6 and you can choose to either help the Bretons and Redguards destroy it or help the Orcs defend it
"Why the Orcs Always Lose"
Well last night I was playing some Morrowind and I came across a stronghold of orcs with my low level mage, I levitated onto the wall and just laughed at them while I tossed lightning down on them while they just ran around with their axes.
Morrwind is my favorite TES game and levitation is fantastic.
@@larsrons7937 That mage eventually went onto being the Telvanni archmagister with every piece of equipment enchants with absurd enchants. It really is such a fun game
The pale orc is telling us about orcs
Tom Eccles pale orcs in skyrim?
Azog the Defiler
New SE build confirmed?
Scott looks like an orc with his dumb haircut.
I wish there were several Orc races like the elves have. Even Hobbits have several types.
Because they don't have leader to make Orsinium great again, an orc that would build the greatest wall you ever seen and make the Britons and Reguards pay for it.
Well, orcs have small hands.
I mean I'm sure they would rather tear those walls down and slaughter the lot of them rather than pay anything but sure lets go with that 😂
@@garytaylor3880 r/woosh
Oh, so trump
the background footage is fantastic, makes your videos very enjoyable to watch!
Give a Breton a pile of bricks and he'll make you a City. Give an ork a City and he'll make you a pile of bricks.
I guess the Ukrainians are of Breton descent then. The Ukrainians build something beautiful, the invading Orcs turn it into rubble. But Ukraine confirms the video's title - that the Orcs will always lose.
Lack of numbers, organization, mages and trade/allies. The real question is: "As the Orcs are now, how could they possibly ever win?"
MinionOfDeth2112 dude quick question. w5527. Do you know what that is?
Dude, quick question: what does it have to do with the Orcs?
They might one day united just like the plain tribes of Mongolia IRL and put themselves exclusively as warriors and other races pay them tribute to fulfill the needs of their empire.
The orcs lose because you always call them losers(sheds tear)
Orcs always make for the toughest enemy NPCs
If the orcs were to successfully form a nation, their innate talents in physical strength and metal craftsmanship would eventually lead them to be the dominant race, but due to their nature, they would rise to become aggressive to other nations and attempt to conquer them by force, just like the Krogan in Mass Effect series
That's where some orcs needs to learn diplomacy
2:40 god you gotta love elder scrolls lore sometimes....
Don't forget what vivec did after being raped...
11:53 "Kurog then had his mother lead a fight against the cults"
"Hey mom can you fight the cults?" "Son you're old enough to fight your own battles." "But moooooom I'm the chief"
Tuskor getting Eric Cartman vibes
Look, all I’m saying is that if Orcs have been expelled from 109 provinces, it’s probably their fault
Just like in Ukraine. The Orcs need to be expelled from Ukraine.
After reading orc Hen Tai, I can never see orcs the same way again.
Gimme
Orcs are one of my favorite races along with Nords, Dunmer, and Argonians
Great video BTW FudgeMuppet
Man, your favourite races sure are a rectangle of mutual hate.
How can your fave races be both argonian and dark elf? Screw the dunmer, may the hist save us all
Marcus Tullius Cicero You could be right they all each have there own hate
Liam White Both cultures are interesting
May the hist guide us
Actually, not all Argonians hate the Dunmer. Only those who's tribes were enslaved, hate them. Naga, probably don't care either way as they never leave the inner marsh. Really, only the tribes who live in the outer marsh would have an opinion. (the races of Men and Mer can't survive in the inner marsh)
*dislikes in the name of the green daddi beasts*
*le launches riften guard all the way into outer space with giants club*
Riften Guard
You dont do a very good job guarding your hold, every new player has stolen from your major city at least once.
The Orcs came from World of Warcraft and then they soon found Tamriel as a better place
“It’s not easy being green”
- Kermit the Frog
Orsinium in ESO is one of my favorite cities to visit.
Connor Nicholas It is a nice DLC one of the best haha.
Hero of Wrothgar
Connor Nicholas Is ESO still heavily populated?
I was playing it about four months ago and it seemed pretty full.
Kenny Anahuac yeah, the game is a bit addicting, all the zones are still full of people. I don't think the game is going down especially when there's a new chapter coming in June. There's a lot more dailies to do. Most WB can be soloed others no, they instant one shot or get swamped by trash. There's still a lot of bugs with group tooling, low cp players shouldn't be allowed to do veteran Hard dongeons dlc dungeons, bc you need the cp buffs to help out with dps, also the expetience. But the prize with the low lvl are amazing you get pets, crates, more skill points and more loot, you get to choose too. It's nice! The endgame is amazing, trials are always fun but the loot drop ugh damn you VO daggers!
Do a video on why Wood Elves and Orcs aren't good with magic but the Dunmer and Altmer are.
Orcs are good with magic. They are mer after all.
Orcs are all bandits and Khajits are all thieves!
#SkyrimBelongsToTheNords
Are there actually any khajits that dont talk about drugs or stealing in skyrim?
Me an orc who conquered Skyrim by killing everyone except orcs:
Love lore videos. Dont care if it's about what shoe size tiber septim had. There can't be too much lore
Chiken what size shoes _did_ tiber septim have? And did they change after he reached CHIM? These are the questions that need to be asked
@@HartyBiker First things first, do countries on Tamriel have unified shoe measurement systems? And how do they relate to ours?
It’s because the orcs don’t work together but they need to work with another race to become better
Well, in TES Legends they are THE BEST race playing together... it's impossible lose with an lane full of orcs.
Not all Orcs are Stronghold Orcs, though. Quite a few have given up their barbaric ways and live with the populations of the province they end up in somewhat peacefully and are very much appreciated for their dedication and productivity. This doesn't make them strong as a race in TES, since they basically make up very small minorities, but they do generally enhance the places they live in. If THOSE Orcs decided to band together some day to form a nation with their strength tempered by their experience of civilization, they could actually start carving out an existence for their own people
The early orcs didn't understand that Teamwork Makes The Dream Work, smh
Lotr have given orcs a bad rap.
I mean, Tolkien more or less created orcs. Their name even comes from "Orcus", who is essentially evil, so it's justified.
Are you sure that he created the orcs ? I read in a mythological book that orcs already existed in celtic myth as cruel wanderers in the hills (which keeps the negativ aspect of the race) It seems to me that Tolkien wanted to put back on the spotlight old scandinivians and celtics mythologies.
@@galtrugglorc4223 pretty sure those were goblins which inspired Tolkein's orcs.
The answer on how that orcs city has fallen and was rebuilt is because
Answer:dunmer
This is one of those videos that makes me fairly certain fantasy stormfront would be a real thing.
Orcs: build a city
Redguards and Bretons: American cup song
I think the orcs are still afflicted by the curse, same as malacath. So they are destined to be the outcasts. Which is probably for the best considering how unstoppable they would be otherwise. And it makes for more lore friendly reasons as to why you can find orcs all over
You guys should make a best build for each race vid
best build?
it doesnt matter what you choose....in the end you are so incredibly overpowered you can one-shot almost anything....even a giant....
You know who they remind me of ? Krogan. Krogan were basically cursed too by the Salarians, due to their violent nature and staggering birth rates. Krogan also had clans which are constantly at war.I think why the Krogan are more likeable and why they eventually (if your shepard chooses to help them) get help is because the Krogan had leaders that wanted change for their people. The Orcs don't really care, the Krogan were facing potential extinction otherwise, so to be able to gather a race known for nuking its planet into Oblivion is an incredible feat.
I too Always thought that. It also gives me Hope. As in the end, (with the right choices) even the krogan finally get their worlds to live in.
One reason I play as an Orc in Skyrim… An Orc Dragonborn would have the innate ability to fulfill the Code of Malacath to the point of unifying the Strongholds into a kingdom and, depending on which side he takes in the Civil War, could seize Orsinium for himself and establish a unified Orcish state.
Actually that sounds like a fun play through how would I do that?
1. Play as an Orc, 2. Stay neutral in the Civil War, 3. Come up with a reason why your Orc Dragonborn sacks the Thalmor Embassy for personal revenge if you join the Stormcloaks or do the Forsworn Conspiracy quest before joining the Legion
Skyrim belongs to the Nords
belonged....now it belongs to the altmers.
They wish. Altmer are just whining about being turned mortal. It happened to men to and you don't here them crying. Altmer are pussies
You should go to Windhelm brother. I have a feeling Ulfric Stormcloak want's to see you.
altmer own skyrim :)
the nords are big pussies. the one thing they are good for is dying.
Skyrim is Empire property
It strikes me that you define "winning" as colonizing and sustaining an empire. The orcs clearly have a very different culture in comparison to other races. Not everyone has the same values or defines success in the same terms.
I found this comment to be cringe _and_ bluepilled.
And gay.
Every race would build an empire if they could.
Glory to Caesar!
Nietzsche's Moustache The world does not flow according to your beck and call.
You will choke on your own spittle while your children wait for your last miserable breath to escape your rotting, undeserving lungs. The world would rejoice at your passing, had they only noticed you in the first place.
Pick a god and pray, old fool. They're all a lie anyway.
@@moonstruckstarlet6607
Consider that nerve touched.
You are aping that writing style, by the way. Your eloquence is wasted if it's not in your authentic voice.
Don't be afraid to be you.
I was going to respond to your actual point next, but doesn't seem like you made one.
Unless it was that bit about all gods being lies (barf).
Imagine the arrogance it takes to dismiss thousands of years of human thought.
Have you ever even been out of the country?
Graduated from high school?
Taken a life? Given birth?
What do you know about anything?
King Kade ayy idk what we're discussing here but I'm an athiest too, I'd like to take a moment tho to say that I think spirtuality in terms of the metaphysical aspects of one's own person, not literal spirit, is very important, have a good day, smoke some weed
@@DarthKader
I remember when I used to say cringe shit like that too.
Modern science is a weird, new age pseudo religion. Most of it is bullshit, piggybacking on the success of engineering.
It might _all_ be bullshit. Our institutions have been corrupted.
I always thought they were pretty much like the ancient Celts mixed with a lil nomadic
I kinda came up with this screenplay idea that was about and Orc taking an Elf princess back to her people, explaining to her throughout the journey why his people are cursed and despite their strength are always cursed to die. He brings her back to her people but they brutally kill him and she learns the brutal truth of his philosophy.
I think that would be a cool story.