Great video, LPL! Thank you for the kind words and glad we were able to give you somewhat of a challenge. It’s worth mentioning that all of our locks have similar pinning, not just the locks we send to famous lock pickers. 😃 Your critiques are invaluable and we will look into how best to address them. Looking forward to seeing what destructive techniques you have in store!
Great job on the lock. While LPL commented that the pick resistance outpaced the physical security, I think that for certain uses a higher pick resistance is more valuable and hard to find on certain form factors of locks. Two related questions for you if you'll answer. Is the double anti-bypass plates standard? And why choose that core if you need to add anti-bypass plates to secure the lock?
Ender Gaming The one they sent to BosnianBill also had two anit-bypass wafers. As for the form factor of the core, I suspect it is for interchangability with other body/core manufacturers.
Ender Gaming Hi Ender (great books, by the way)! 2 bypass plates is standard for our locks. We chose to go with this design as one of our first products because it’s popular and familiar. Anyone who is already invested in locks of this design can easily switch to MAKO without needing to rekey or replace all locks at once.
I was going to comment that I bet they pinned that up special. Its good to know all of your locks share this level of pick resistance. And they seem to be affordable as well. Nice! Ok, went to your channel to get a link to your website and there is no link to your website. What's that URL?
MAKO Locks, question for you. I'm a fan of this channel, as well as a handful of very similar ones, and watch them often... Also, a hobbyist amateur picker i guess I'd be considered. Anyway, since tee majority of thefts involving security devices like this are accomplished by brute force, as opposed to a more "technically proficient" means such as this, almost rendering locks w superior "pick resistance" kind of un needed, as shackle thickness and metallurgy are more important factors.... has producing an item of this quality helped sales figures for you? I and the lock sport community certainly appreciate a budget conscious challenge, but I'm curious if the consumer appreciates it as well.
clever guys at Mako to send their products for a test to a specialist Proper confidence in their own products Wish more companies (in general) would do this Thx for sharing!
Have picked and tested Mako 427, American 1100, Paclock 90A pro, Abus 72/40, and even the Night Watch clone. The absolute best pick resistance and challenge came from the Mako 427. My favorite locks to pick, and my favorite to secure my locker. 10/10 for fun and function
Mako has earned 17,126 prospective new customers with this video and fair play to them for making such a fabulous pick resistant lock! Pick resistant for LPL for sure, pick-nigh-on-impossible for the rest of us! 🙃💨👍
If Mako pins all of their locks like that, a model that is all hardened steel would be quite the task to defeat! That one you have there shows how good a product can be when a company cares about what they put on the market!
I always enjoy when you come out complimenting a lock, even after defeating it. At $14, this at least tosses in basic security pins, which could be added to any lock range for a few pennies extra.
Another excellent show of skills, I'm always in awe of your prowess in picking. That core gave you the most trouble that I've seen you have in regards to a shackle lock. You still were able to get through it rather quickly, but I have some respect for that Mako Lock brand. A fairly thin shackle gives me some pause I look forward to seeing a destructive test.
Nearly 11 minutes long (with fluff and gutting) and they sent two of them knowing full well how destructive your destructive opens can be! And that lock looks like a very nice 6-pin beast. Go Mako! I *am* looking forward to that destructive open, by the way. _wink wink_
Happy to say, I went home for lunch today and my Mako was waiting for me. It is very nice. I did pick it in about 5 min. using a Peterson Gem 18. But it did put up a fight. I will play with it more over weekend. Ok, EDIT !!! I picked it like I said, but after work and since then it hasn’t been so straight forward. It reminds me of my American 5200’s. Big time. Great challenge.
LockPickingLawyer Yes sir’ I am happy with the picking resistance of this lock. I am also looking forward to the second lock you have for finding weak points.
That is a very good price for a 6 pin lock with security pins. The new destructive entry technique has got me wondering. You always come up with some pretty amazing ways of getting into locks.
Looks like a great lock at a great price point and certainly competitive. I am impressed, better than I thought. My only gripe would be some better bitting. 😎✌
I got mine in the mail today. Very nice value. But, it isn’t really big enough to resist a serious destructive entry attempt. I wonder if my core would fit in that big Stanley motorcycle lock.
Tex Patriot Thanks, Tex! FYI, we will be releasing 2 larger variants within the next few months. The largest model will have a shielded shackle similar to the Stanley.
Nice ... if it held you out that long it has to be pretty pick-resistant! Very reasonable price too! I’ll await your follow up destructive testing ... wonder if the infamous mr Ramset will be making a cameo appearance? Thanks & Happy New Year !!!
I just ordered a Mako lock. It’s been over 2 hours of dedicated pick time and I’ve only had slight false sets. I’m not a talented picker… at least not like I thought 😢
Very cool, can’t wait for destructive attack(s). Of course there are bigger locks available? LPL did a series on gun locks and it was disappointing, but smart people use multiple levels as do I. I have loads of padlocks for work and firearms security, (locked cases, even in my safes) and construction. I’ve never had a work lock picked, they are always destroyed, typically by one or two hammer strikes. (Still a good idea to have pick resistance especially if it doesn’t increase cost significantly).
Yup, the manufacturer replied to me and said they always install two, to prevent puncture and manipulation. I’m guessing that if you can punch through two wafers then no lock of this type is safe from you. Looks like a well priced lock that gives you much more security then you pay for. (Against hidden attacks in any case, grinders and bolt cutters will always win).
What ever happened to the destructive opening video for the mako? I’m running these on a lot of my personal stuff at the moment, good locks for the money.
I'm surprised that you didn't pick this open with 2 passes at the pins. Either you're losing your touch or this lock is as good as you say it is! Nice job and keep up the good work!
Hi LPL! Love the channel. Quick question for you! Can the MAKO Mo. 427 - Rekeyable Rectangular Padlock be raked open like the in the Bosnian Bill episode 269? I was considering purchasing some but not if they can be raked open like this. Can you test it for me? Per their website, "A vast improvement on a classic design" but to me, a new comer to the lock work world, the cores seem similar if not the same genera.
I'd like to know your pick time on the other lock, now that you've gotten a feel for this type of lock! I've got mine in the mail, and I can't wait to get a pick in it. I really suspect that the style of serrations on those drivers are going to make it much tougher than the American 1100.. on those it is fairly easy to tell a click from a set... these looks more deceptive in that regard.
OK, so mine finally arrived in the mail. I didn't get it in my first 10 minute attempt though. I did get it in the second in about the same amount of time as you got it. All in all I have to say that at the price tag this IS a super tough little lock.
*@thelockpickinglawyer* Can you please test the mako lock with the actuator tool simularly to the American lock? I would like to see if the wafers are actually effective or not. Thanks.
Does anyone know if the Paclock 100/200 series are vulnerable to the same open key way bypass based on the similarity? I know that Paclock doesn’t have any shims behind the cylinder, but they may have designed around the bypass.
LPL.. I've been a fan for a little bit now. So for destructive attacks, how many ft lbs of torque do you think it would it take to shear the pins. Do you think a hand impact driver (200 ft pounds) could shear them?
Serrated pins make you unable to tell whether the pin is truly set or not. Did that click come from a serration or from the pin clearing the shear line? You can't know until the lock pops open. HelpfulLockPicker likes to pick serrated pins one click at a time for this reason. Spools create counter-rotation (the core moving the other way) and possibly dropping pins. Any dropped pins must be repicked.
I have a cheap Chinese padlock that has the exact same bitting, same key, same amount of pins. The key is almost a photo copy except it says 60 and has circle with a mountain in the middle of circle.
Yes works great. It has alot of spring tension but its sloppy and no security pins. That bitting is almost exactly the same as a L rake/city rake. You can tension and hit it just right with the rake and it pops in seconds.
how can this be not key retaining and have ball bearings? And wouldn't that make it shimmable? something about the combination of those 3 traits seems odd.
I'm sure there is a little bit of trickery going on because normally a symmetrical ball bearing shouldn't really care whether you're opening or closing the lock, right? But I have an idea that involves the longer side of the shackle "keeping it unlocked". Doesn't really matter :) It's just a concept i wasn't aware of until now.
While I haven't watched all 592 of your videos, I have seen quite a few and this lock seemed to take you as long to pick as any other I've seen. That's saying something about pick resistance in an affordable lock.
honestly i feel like everyone should be moving away from that american bypassable core design.. such a simple change to the actuator and you dont have to worry about the anti-bypass wafers and wafer breakers and all that nonsense, not to mention the added cost and labor..
the problem with these stupid little locks is that they are very hard for a novice to pick them...but at the same time their shackles are garbage...a good pair of side cutters takes 3 seconds.
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Great video, LPL! Thank you for the kind words and glad we were able to give you somewhat of a challenge. It’s worth mentioning that all of our locks have similar pinning, not just the locks we send to famous lock pickers. 😃
Your critiques are invaluable and we will look into how best to address them. Looking forward to seeing what destructive techniques you have in store!
Great job on the lock. While LPL commented that the pick resistance outpaced the physical security, I think that for certain uses a higher pick resistance is more valuable and hard to find on certain form factors of locks. Two related questions for you if you'll answer. Is the double anti-bypass plates standard? And why choose that core if you need to add anti-bypass plates to secure the lock?
Ender Gaming The one they sent to BosnianBill also had two anit-bypass wafers. As for the form factor of the core, I suspect it is for interchangability with other body/core manufacturers.
Ender Gaming Hi Ender (great books, by the way)! 2 bypass plates is standard for our locks. We chose to go with this design as one of our first products because it’s popular and familiar. Anyone who is already invested in locks of this design can easily switch to MAKO without needing to rekey or replace all locks at once.
I was going to comment that I bet they pinned that up special. Its good to know all of your locks share this level of pick resistance. And they seem to be affordable as well. Nice!
Ok, went to your channel to get a link to your website and there is no link to your website. What's that URL?
MAKO Locks, question for you. I'm a fan of this channel, as well as a handful of very similar ones, and watch them often... Also, a hobbyist amateur picker i guess I'd be considered. Anyway, since tee majority of thefts involving security devices like this are accomplished by brute force, as opposed to a more "technically proficient" means such as this, almost rendering locks w superior "pick resistance" kind of un needed, as shackle thickness and metallurgy are more important factors.... has producing an item of this quality helped sales figures for you? I and the lock sport community certainly appreciate a budget conscious challenge, but I'm curious if the consumer appreciates it as well.
When LPL says "Wow!" after a pick, it's a lock to consider buying.
Omomooomimji iinmiomp. Oommokmooooo
Victor Moran my thoughts exactly
Also, good to see that inexpensive locks can be made with fairly decent cores.
This.
clever guys at Mako to send their products for a test to a specialist Proper confidence in their own products Wish more companies (in general) would do this Thx for sharing!
Have picked and tested Mako 427, American 1100, Paclock 90A pro, Abus 72/40, and even the Night Watch clone. The absolute best pick resistance and challenge came from the Mako 427. My favorite locks to pick, and my favorite to secure my locker. 10/10 for fun and function
When LPL says "Wow, I'm impressed" that's a lock to buy!! Way to go Mako!
Mako has earned 17,126 prospective new customers with this video and fair play to them for making such a fabulous pick resistant lock! Pick resistant for LPL for sure, pick-nigh-on-impossible for the rest of us! 🙃💨👍
If Mako pins all of their locks like that, a model that is all hardened steel would be quite the task to defeat! That one you have there shows how good a product can be when a company cares about what they put on the market!
Another great lock without the hefty price tag, well worth every cent..
Cheers for sharing LPL 👌
MAKO Locks
Cheers mate 👍I couldn't resist ordering one to add to the collection 😀
Good to see a lock maker with a decent product and actually watches the reviews! Thanks!
I love how Mako know both BB and LPL.
It is very nice to know that there are companies like this.
That was some nice pick resistance. I'm pretty impressed with this lock! Nice job, and thanks for showing it 😁
That is a fantastic lock for a good price. And to give you a hard-ish time say’s a lot. Very nice. Thank you.
I can imagine Mako staff playing this video on a giant screen, cracking open the champagne and tossing each other in the air with glee.
I always enjoy when you come out complimenting a lock, even after defeating it. At $14, this at least tosses in basic security pins, which could be added to any lock range for a few pennies extra.
Another excellent show of skills, I'm always in awe of your prowess in picking. That core gave you the most trouble that I've seen you have in regards to a shackle lock. You still were able to get through it rather quickly, but I have some respect for that Mako Lock brand. A fairly thin shackle gives me some pause I look forward to seeing a destructive test.
Nearly 11 minutes long (with fluff and gutting) and they sent two of them knowing full well how destructive your destructive opens can be! And that lock looks like a very nice 6-pin beast. Go Mako!
I *am* looking forward to that destructive open, by the way. _wink wink_
Very nice pick resistance, thanks for showing how to bypass!
Happy to say, I went home for lunch today and my Mako was waiting for me. It is very nice. I did pick it in about 5 min. using a Peterson Gem 18. But it did put up a fight. I will play with it more over weekend. Ok, EDIT !!! I picked it like I said, but after work and since then it hasn’t been so straight forward. It reminds me of my American 5200’s. Big time. Great challenge.
Have fun with it! Nice little practice lock. 👍
LockPickingLawyer Yes sir’ I am happy with the picking resistance of this lock. I am also looking forward to the second lock you have for finding weak points.
That is a very good price for a 6 pin lock with security pins. The new destructive entry technique has got me wondering. You always come up with some pretty amazing ways of getting into locks.
Great picking as always! I’ll have to pick up one or two of these Mako locks. Thanks for sharing. 😊👍
Frosty901 Please do! 😃
Absolutely, looks like a very fun and challenging pick. 👍😊
Looks like a great lock at a great price point and certainly competitive. I am impressed, better than I thought. My only gripe would be some better bitting. 😎✌
When companies sends their lock to LPL, u know they aren’t playing around.
Bill's lock had two anti-bypass wafers as well. I would guess their use is deliberate. Great lock
I would use a lock like this on a gang box where you have no access to the shackle. nice picking..
Very nice picking my friend👍😊😊👍😎😎😎
Mako advertisement at its finest.
Quote:
“Wow! Mako i am impress.” - LockPickingLawyer
I got mine in the mail today. Very nice value. But, it isn’t really big enough to resist a serious destructive entry attempt. I wonder if my core would fit in that big Stanley motorcycle lock.
Tex Patriot Thanks, Tex! FYI, we will be releasing 2 larger variants within the next few months. The largest model will have a shielded shackle similar to the Stanley.
MAKO Locks nice to know Mako is paying attention to their customer and potential customers.
How is this so relaxing? It's like watching a clockwork zit popping or mechanical dentistry!
Nice ... if it held you out that long it has to be pretty pick-resistant!
Very reasonable price too!
I’ll await your follow up destructive testing ... wonder if the infamous mr Ramset will be making a cameo appearance?
Thanks & Happy New Year !!!
Can't find destructive video... Can you give a link?
Impressive! That's a tough little lock.
awsome i dident know about that kind of bypas only heard about it but no one explaind it before so thnx for that :D
very nice! I am impressed with the lock I bought from Mako.
Did we ever get the destructive method, LPL?
It might be the titalium attack he did.
@@KateGrayCode That was the first LPL video I ever saw! But I think that was a different lock. Maybe it was never posted?
@@flashish I think he may have done that tactic to a different lock, when he planned on doing it to the other Mako one.
I bought one of these after watching your video, found it much easier then an American 1100. Maybe it was just the example I received.
I'm a lock now? Great video as always!
😂
Great picking brother as always, this one put up a hell of a fight! Thanks for the review
Nice little lock!
I just ordered a Mako lock. It’s been over 2 hours of dedicated pick time and I’ve only had slight false sets. I’m not a talented picker… at least not like I thought 😢
Outstanding video. What is the lock pinning tray that is used in this video (brand/model)? Thanks.
I made the pinning tray. It’s not available for sale. Sorry.
I recognize quality when I see it - well done!
Out of hundreds of locks, this is the most difficulty I’ve seen picking. 😮
Look good
Great job and good luck, stay safe
Great lock! Great pick!!!
Maybe pop open the other lock and see if there are two plates on the back of that one as well?
John-Paul Silke Hello, John-Paul! There are. We use 2 by default in all locks for some extra security.
Very cool, can’t wait for destructive attack(s). Of course there are bigger locks available? LPL did a series on gun locks and it was disappointing, but smart people use multiple levels as do I. I have loads of padlocks for work and firearms security, (locked cases, even in my safes) and construction. I’ve never had a work lock picked, they are always destroyed, typically by one or two hammer strikes. (Still a good idea to have pick resistance especially if it doesn’t increase cost significantly).
I ordered one, came today, and there were 2 bypass wafers in there. 3 serrated 1 standard 2 spool and then 2 serrated key pins. Great lock.
i have 3 and they all come w 2 anti bypass wafers
Yup, the manufacturer replied to me and said they always install two, to prevent puncture and manipulation. I’m guessing that if you can punch through two wafers then no lock of this type is safe from you. Looks like a well priced lock that gives you much more security then you pay for. (Against hidden attacks in any case, grinders and bolt cutters will always win).
Wow... Imagine if the bitting was a bit more wild how hard this lock would be?
What ever happened to the destructive opening video for the mako? I’m running these on a lot of my personal stuff at the moment, good locks for the money.
Excellent lock there. Woukd be better if it had a shroud to protect the shackle. That pick resistance gave you a hard time.
*slides on over to Mako's website* 👀👀👀
Do you have a video on how you can tell by the key how many pins it has and even what type of core?
Nice looking lock. I’ll have to pick one up.
Impressive! ... looks like extra DEEP serations too if I'm not mistaken!
Not that deep. More than an American Lock, less than PacLock.
I'm surprised that you didn't pick this open with 2 passes at the pins. Either you're losing your touch or this lock is as good as you say it is! Nice job and keep up the good work!
Hi LPL! Love the channel. Quick question for you! Can the MAKO Mo. 427 - Rekeyable Rectangular Padlock be raked open like the in the Bosnian Bill episode 269? I was considering purchasing some but not if they can be raked open like this. Can you test it for me? Per their website, "A vast improvement on a classic design" but to me, a new comer to the lock work world, the cores seem similar if not the same genera.
I'd like to know your pick time on the other lock, now that you've gotten a feel for this type of lock! I've got mine in the mail, and I can't wait to get a pick in it. I really suspect that the style of serrations on those drivers are going to make it much tougher than the American 1100.. on those it is fairly easy to tell a click from a set... these looks more deceptive in that regard.
Obviously, the more I get a feel for these pins, the faster I will get... but it’s still nice to see an effort being made on a low-price Lock.
OK, so mine finally arrived in the mail. I didn't get it in my first 10 minute attempt though. I did get it in the second in about the same amount of time as you got it. All in all I have to say that at the price tag this IS a super tough little lock.
Hi. Thanks for another great video. Question - where did you buy your c-clip tool and pinning tray. BR Jan
I can't find the follow-up destructive video LPL mentioned. Anyone know if he made it or not ?
*@thelockpickinglawyer* Can you please test the mako lock with the actuator tool simularly to the American lock? I would like to see if the wafers are actually effective or not. Thanks.
The wafers work. I did check.
LockPickingLawyer Thanks.
Where is the destructive attack video I can’t find it
I have some interesting high security locks I’d like to send you to see what you think. How do I go about that?
Does anyone know if the Paclock 100/200 series are vulnerable to the same open key way bypass based on the similarity? I know that Paclock doesn’t have any shims behind the cylinder, but they may have designed around the bypass.
2:45 for lpl to pick ? its a decent pinning
LPL.. I've been a fan for a little bit now. So for destructive attacks, how many ft lbs of torque do you think it would it take to shear the pins. Do you think a hand impact driver (200 ft pounds) could shear them?
No idea... I suspect most tools that you can get in a keyway would break first.
In your destructive testing can you try cutting the shackle to see how easy/difficult that is?
It’s easy... no need to test.
What is the function of the serrated pins and the spuls (sorry for the misspelling)? I assume it is to make the picking harder, I just can't see how.
Serrated pins make you unable to tell whether the pin is truly set or not. Did that click come from a serration or from the pin clearing the shear line? You can't know until the lock pops open. HelpfulLockPicker likes to pick serrated pins one click at a time for this reason.
Spools create counter-rotation (the core moving the other way) and possibly dropping pins. Any dropped pins must be repicked.
Just found the replacement for my general use padlock set. $12 USD and I can rekey them alike..
So where is the promised destruction vid?
Nice picking.
I have a cheap Chinese padlock that has the exact same bitting, same key, same amount of pins. The key is almost a photo copy except it says 60 and has circle with a mountain in the middle of circle.
Jeremiah Kennedy is it any good?
Yes works great. It has alot of spring tension but its sloppy and no security pins. That bitting is almost exactly the same as a L rake/city rake. You can tension and hit it just right with the rake and it pops in seconds.
how can this be not key retaining and have ball bearings? And wouldn't that make it shimmable? something about the combination of those 3 traits seems odd.
Good question. There is a spring loaded mechanism inside that makes it possible. These are very common. 👍
I'm sure there is a little bit of trickery going on because normally a symmetrical ball bearing shouldn't really care whether you're opening or closing the lock, right? But I have an idea that involves the longer side of the shackle "keeping it unlocked". Doesn't really matter :) It's just a concept i wasn't aware of until now.
No drill protection?
why those plates, why not make the core non-bypassable? That's just unforced error at this point
While I haven't watched all 592 of your videos, I have seen quite a few and this lock seemed to take you as long to pick as any other I've seen. That's saying something about pick resistance in an affordable lock.
What other lock would fit this core.
looks fun
Teaser alert!
👍🏻
Could you have raked that lock?
Unlikely... nothing’s impossible, but I can’t see that as a reliable way to open these.
I wish you would use the Kronos first, so we can see if it will open. Thanks.
honestly i feel like everyone should be moving away from that american bypassable core design.. such a simple change to the actuator and you dont have to worry about the anti-bypass wafers and wafer breakers and all that nonsense, not to mention the added cost and labor..
That’s a fair point... the reality is that most of these cores are sourced in China, and the makers aren’t that savvy.
I dont understand, the lock companies themselves tell the chinese factory what to make, right? Why dont they make non-bypassable designs?
+ForthyPremonition
It's cheaper when the tooling already exists
Does anyone know if the Paclock 100/200 series are vulnerable to this same attack based on the similarity?
"Wow, I'm impressed. It took me over 10 seconds to pick your padlock. I highly recomend it." WTF...
nice...
*Cough* RAMSET *Cough*
the problem with these stupid little locks is that they are very hard for a novice to pick them...but at the same time their shackles are garbage...a good pair of side cutters takes 3 seconds.
Every time I see you using this blue srew driver it hurts me.
Judging from my view, it has a Phillips No. 1 bit, while the srews are Phillips No. 2.
News flash nothing is safe dig a hole some place if you want better protection
Early!
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