To be fair, Jayce is a good player, especially at the deep ball. However, I feel we don't throw deep often enough to stretch the field and use his abilities. And at times he was open deep and was overthrown. Maybe it's best if he goes somewhere that throws the ball 30 times a game. You can't knock him if he's doing what's the best for him or at least thinks he's doing what's best for him. His consistency has been an issue and wherever he goes he needs to realize that he needs to work hard.
I agree. Think it’s best for both sides. It’s a good time to part rather than sticking around too long and it becoming overly toxic. Can absolutely live with this
I worry that if we play him, he will put in the same level of effort that Will Lee did in last year's ISU game in Manhattan. It will be interesting to see how things shake out tomorrow.
If he is entertaining entering the portal, he needs to stay home. Spivey and Cephas are playing better right now. I remember a young man named Josh Youngblood who got bigheaded, hit the portal and his career just got worse from there.
He was okay on his best days. He had a few good plays this season but the consistency in route running just wasn’t there. As a blocker and route runner he was meh. It wasn’t due to lack of us scheming or throwing to him.
This is a question, not a prediction. Will Avery hit the next portal window? Why you ask? Two of his present (Brown) and future targets (Cure) are &/or maybe leaving K-State. One is Avery's roommate, Brown, and the other is a good friend, Cure, do they know something?!? Then there's Avery's lack of making the progress everyone thought he'd make during the year. Here's just one example, he seems to struggle finding the open receiver(s). This, in my opinion, is a coaching issue, not Avery's. There's the question and a few reasons to wonder and maybe worry!?!
I would doubt it to be honest. He’s K-State through and through. If he didn’t flirt with other teams and consider leaving when stuff was tough the first time around without Klein, I expect him here for the long haul unless something happens to Klieman. Anything’s possible but I’m set on Avery returning. And if not, I’m the leader of the Blake Barnett train
My worry is that he is Avery's best friend and roommate and he has been and is going to continue to be in Avery's ear this off-season. I will be gutted if we lose him.
Are we worried about Avery leaving at all? I know I read reports that Avery is on the phone trying to keep guys here. But it has to be a bit of a worry right?
I think it started much earlier than that to be honest. He stopped getting the football and I think that’s been the last straw. But who knows the real story 🤷🏼♂️
Definitely started as a good thing but think it’s now at a point where it’s ruined major aspects of the sport. Will be interesting to see where it goes from here
Absolutely. Especially with roster cuts coming too. Dudes have to find a home early otherwise they may be left out. Will have to wait and see I suppose
I don't think schools have time to be developmental schools anymore. Looks, these kids aren't dumb. They see what is going on around them. Kids play for teams that can put them in the pros. State's current coaching staff doesn't have a stellar record of putting kids in the pros with meaningful careers.
It,s one thing to transfer out .. but the thing of it is not the K State way !!! He could of waited until After this game .Maybe he looks to look at all the easy drops he had but K State has Always been a run first pass second with their offense.Good luck at Texas A & M
Don’t take him to Ames! I believe all of the players that had decided to enter the portal last year before the Iowa State game was the major contributor to K State losing! Take the kids that Really want to play!!
I don’t blame him for leaving. If I was a receiver I would HATE to play in a Lincoln Riley offense. His offense is horrible for receivers. Riley has no clue how to put together an offense that can do anything other than run the ball and drop the ball off to tight ends.
Conor Riley offense haha, Lincoln Riley may be option No. 1 for like everyone in the country. But I totally know what you’re going for no sweat. I get that people are gonna leave but I also don’t see the offense as bad enough for some mass exodus after ten wins. My guess is Jayce would have left wether it was CK or anyone calling plays. Sometimes dudes just hit their breaking point. Plus (fingers crossed) seems like Riley’s getting better on the sidelines. We’ll see tonight tho
He played and scored 2 TD’s! Should have been 3! So no he wasn’t “in the portal!” He may have intentions to enter the portal in the coming days but it was not accurate in the least to say “he was in the portal”! It hasn’t even opened yet! Enough with the hyperbole and taking rumors at face value!
Look man. It’s out there, I’m not gonna sit here and pretend it’s not. Is it possible Jayce stays because they worked something out? Sure. But it’s not like the man isn’t shopping and planning to leave.
You’re right. He’s good by default as we needed someone to step up. Think he can be a special player, but don’t think it clicked this year and he’s choosing to cut ties
Jayce Brown needs to take some personal accountabilty or his results will be the same no matter where he's at. He disappeared a few weeks ago anyway, so good luck.
Spot on. So naturally with the way college football works he’ll transfer somewhere else where he won’t be WR1 if he wants to stay in the Power conference likely
Think you’re right about that. He’s a solid wideout who helps us at his ceiling he’s just not very consistent and doesn’t help much blocking for DJ and the backs. Feel similar to how I did with RJ Garcia
Thanks!
Thank you so much my friend! Always appreciate your support!!
Sad to see him go.
Me too my friend!
Solid work on this bro 🤘🏼
Thanks brother! Appreciate it!!
Great breakdown btw.
Thank you so much my friend!
To be fair, Jayce is a good player, especially at the deep ball. However, I feel we don't throw deep often enough to stretch the field and use his abilities. And at times he was open deep and was overthrown. Maybe it's best if he goes somewhere that throws the ball 30 times a game. You can't knock him if he's doing what's the best for him or at least thinks he's doing what's best for him. His consistency has been an issue and wherever he goes he needs to realize that he needs to work hard.
I agree. Think it’s best for both sides. It’s a good time to part rather than sticking around too long and it becoming overly toxic. Can absolutely live with this
Thanks for the update. You are right. There will be more -- likely many more to come. The state of college sports today.
Absolutely my friend. It’s a weird ride but it’s the way it goes I suppose! Thanks for watching!
Don’t play him. If someone is looking somewhere else then so are we.
Edit: thanks for showing up Jayce
I worry that if we play him, he will put in the same level of effort that Will Lee did in last year's ISU game in Manhattan. It will be interesting to see how things shake out tomorrow.
Yep! I 100% agree with you there. I’m sure the staff would agree as well but we’ll have to see.
Leave him in Manhattan
I wonder if this had anything to do with missed catches last week 🤔
@@BehindTheReelFishing that and Spivey having #1 potential. He knows he won’t be the guy next year so he want to go somewhere where he is.
If he is entertaining entering the portal, he needs to stay home. Spivey and Cephas are playing better right now.
I remember a young man named Josh Youngblood who got bigheaded, hit the portal and his career just got worse from there.
It feels very VERY similar to the Youngblood situation from the outside looking in
@JoeTillery I agree.
I was sad when RJ Garcia hit the portal. I’m sad about Jayce. But the team will go on.
Retain the Cure!!!
RJ Garcia is a perfect example actually. I was bummed when he left but it made perfect sense and was better for us in the long run
I've said for a couple years now that KSU hasn't had a wide receiver since Lockett. Spivey's recent play makes it appear that streak might end
I think you’re right brother. At least that’s the hope. Love his game and his mentality. Hoping we see some more flashes! Thanks for watching!
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Absolutely nailed this take, brother. Nice job.
Thank you brother! I really appreciate that!
He was okay on his best days. He had a few good plays this season but the consistency in route running just wasn’t there. As a blocker and route runner he was meh. It wasn’t due to lack of us scheming or throwing to him.
You said it. At some point players have to take accountability and step up. Otherwise you see the result. Interesting to see what happens next!
This is a question, not a prediction. Will Avery hit the next portal window? Why you ask? Two of his present (Brown) and future targets (Cure) are &/or maybe leaving K-State. One is Avery's roommate, Brown, and the other is a good friend, Cure, do they know something?!? Then there's Avery's lack of making the progress everyone thought he'd make during the year. Here's just one example, he seems to struggle finding the open receiver(s). This, in my opinion, is a coaching issue, not Avery's. There's the question and a few reasons to wonder and maybe worry!?!
I would doubt it to be honest. He’s K-State through and through. If he didn’t flirt with other teams and consider leaving when stuff was tough the first time around without Klein, I expect him here for the long haul unless something happens to Klieman. Anything’s possible but I’m set on Avery returning. And if not, I’m the leader of the Blake Barnett train
I'm glad you trash talked him. I'm upping my bet on Iowa State to clobber K State; ) Thanks Bud
Trash talked him lol, you should triple your bet brother
My worry is that he is Avery's best friend and roommate and he has been and is going to continue to be in Avery's ear this off-season. I will be gutted if we lose him.
I think it’s the exact opposite if anything. Think it shows Avery who the real ones are. That dudes a Wildcat through and through. He’s here
Are we worried about Avery leaving at all? I know I read reports that Avery is on the phone trying to keep guys here. But it has to be a bit of a worry right?
Zero worry still. Didn’t have any the day it ended and still don’t now.
@ I think getting Linkon Cure to stay committed was Avery doing! And I hope it breaks the ice for the elite talent to start coming to the Little Apple
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Wonder where he goes
My guess is FSU. But he may end up staying the way Avery was talking after the game
Is this because of Spivey taking more reps? Jayce was a stud at the deep ball but a mediocre blocker and route runner outside deep balls.
I think it’s a lot of things but I think he’s mostly unhappy he’s not getting the ball as much if I had to guess
probably found out who coach’s are pursuing other WR.
Maybe he was virus in locker room & part of issues with houston & az st games?
I think it started much earlier than that to be honest. He stopped getting the football and I think that’s been the last straw. But who knows the real story 🤷🏼♂️
NIL and Portal ruination of College athletics.
Definitely started as a good thing but think it’s now at a point where it’s ruined major aspects of the sport. Will be interesting to see where it goes from here
It's going to be transfer portal chaos. Advantage to Deep Pockets. Tough on developmental kids. Yes, no, or maybe?
Absolutely. Especially with roster cuts coming too. Dudes have to find a home early otherwise they may be left out. Will have to wait and see I suppose
I don't think schools have time to be developmental schools anymore. Looks, these kids aren't dumb. They see what is going on around them. Kids play for teams that can put them in the pros. State's current coaching staff doesn't have a stellar record of putting kids in the pros with meaningful careers.
It,s one thing to transfer out .. but the thing of it is not the K State way !!! He could of waited until After this game .Maybe he looks to look at all the easy drops he had but K State has Always been a run first pass second with their offense.Good luck at Texas A & M
Agreed. Still think he ends up at FSU, but A&M wouldn’t shock me
Don’t take him to Ames! I believe all of the players that had decided to enter the portal last year before the Iowa State game was the major contributor to K State losing! Take the kids that Really want to play!!
Agreed! I think he’ll be there and be suited up out of necessity but I can’t imagine him playing much at all
Thanks for the reply Joe! Unfortunately, the Transfer Portal and NIL has turned College Athletics into Free Agency on Steroids!
I don’t blame him for leaving. If I was a receiver I would HATE to play in a Lincoln Riley offense. His offense is horrible for receivers. Riley has no clue how to put together an offense that can do anything other than run the ball and drop the ball off to tight ends.
Conor Riley offense haha, Lincoln Riley may be option No. 1 for like everyone in the country. But I totally know what you’re going for no sweat. I get that people are gonna leave but I also don’t see the offense as bad enough for some mass exodus after ten wins. My guess is Jayce would have left wether it was CK or anyone calling plays. Sometimes dudes just hit their breaking point. Plus (fingers crossed) seems like Riley’s getting better on the sidelines. We’ll see tonight tho
I thought him and Avery were best friends
They were, maybe still are, but isn’t enough for people to move past their own ambitions. Would bet Jayce is ready for change in all regards
He played and scored 2 TD’s! Should have been 3! So no he wasn’t “in the portal!” He may have intentions to enter the portal in the coming days but it was not accurate in the least to say “he was in the portal”! It hasn’t even opened yet! Enough with the hyperbole and taking rumors at face value!
Look man. It’s out there, I’m not gonna sit here and pretend it’s not. Is it possible Jayce stays because they worked something out? Sure. But it’s not like the man isn’t shopping and planning to leave.
He is NOT a true star. He’s an ok receiver that may or may not block, and may or may not catch the ball. He’s definitely replaceable.
You’re right. He’s good by default as we needed someone to step up. Think he can be a special player, but don’t think it clicked this year and he’s choosing to cut ties
Im shocked because i thought he was the best WR on the team. Avery best target.
I have quickly turned to Tre Spivey. He’s the truth. Retaining him is going to be key but think he’s a 100% committed dude to the Cats!
Jayce Brown needs to take some personal accountabilty or his results will be the same no matter where he's at. He disappeared a few weeks ago anyway, so good luck.
You said it brother. If you’re going to transfer transfer, but don’t act like you want to be here and are focused on the team
He realized he’s not going to be WR1 next year
Spot on. So naturally with the way college football works he’ll transfer somewhere else where he won’t be WR1 if he wants to stay in the Power conference likely
Texas Tech is going to pay him big money
I don’t think Joey’ll want him. He’s FSU bound. Would doubt he ends up out of his home state
Move on Jayce u are not being targeted enough
I think it’s also a lot of him not getting open to be fair. But since he hasn’t hit the portal yet they may work something out
Wow, he's not even that good. K-State needs help in the WR room.
Think you’re right about that. He’s a solid wideout who helps us at his ceiling he’s just not very consistent and doesn’t help much blocking for DJ and the backs. Feel similar to how I did with RJ Garcia
NO reason for him to be on the active roster then.
You said it. If you’re exploring elsewhere it doesn’t make sense to pretend to be invested