The Great Overwatch 2 Comeback
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 ก.พ. 2024
- In this video, Freedo gives his full review of Overwatch 2 Season 9. Huge changes to the competitive system, an sr reset, health balancing and projectile resizing have changed Overwatch 2 in massive ways in a short space of time leading to the best season in Overwatch history!
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We still need more avoid slots. 😊
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Seriously
At least 5 of them I'm BEGGING Blizzard
True that! Too many toxic idiots nowadays
We need Character avoid slots, If they play X hero avoid them lol
"The strongest role in the game right now is Tank", I had to check my calendar to verify that it is not April 1st.
This guy has become a Blizzard boot licker, he used to be impartial but now by the way he talks I wonder sometimes if he even plays the game anymore. Because he is not talking about the same game im playing
@@Frankillz because you lack skill? he is literally playing tank in the video and having fun and sucess in the ladder
@@zero13z34 im way better at tanking than him probably way higher that you’ll ever be. Almost every tank player agrees this is the worst season to play tank unless you’re a god tier ball player. Or Getquackedon.
You have no idea what good overwatch is, you probably started playing when ow2 came out.
He's delusional 😭
@@zero13z34dense take since the patch literally punished ALL tank players . Tanks are now much more dependant on factors out of their control such as dps having hands
bro has NOT been playing tank...
Tank plays no different than before if you were good at Tank. You engage, bait some stuff, then disengage to get healed up and re-engage while cooldowns are still active. Good Tank play as of forever ago.
Tank is way more fun. Get better positioning.
Lol yup
dude main junkrat lol
@@BrofUJu finished 2 accounts top 200 last season and as a mostly mechanical player this season feels REALLY bad to play. you are correct, its partially a skill issue, but from my personal experience ive had way less enjoyment out of this season.
9:30 "the weakest role is still DPS"
Alright Freedo, pack it up... you've reached the limit on how many bad takes you're allowed to make me listen to
i feel like the roles strength debate is dumb, because playing meta heroes like tracer / zen / widow gives the most value not the role. Widow and tracer have completely shut my team down several games.
Yeah, that’s absolute nonsense. DPS is super strong when in the right hands. Easily , the winner of s9.
Dps is legit the most impactful role in the game. I've seen widows and sombras take over games and there's basically no counterplay.
I can’t believe he said this. As a mercy main, I’m dying WAY more often to hitscan characters. The increased HP has made little to no difference.
I know this is just a difference of opinion but the OW devs are listening to people like him who want their game to be the most hardcore/sweaty game. I’m just gonna put up with the dumb dps changes but I cannot accept the notion that dps is somehow the weakest role where EVERYONE knows they’re stronger this season. These content creators need to play with their fan base instead of champion matches to know where the majority of the player base stands
@@bluealph2865 Freedo is a mid rank player. DPS is stronger than it used to be, but it's debatable whether they're the strongest, and that's probably a good thing. A lot of DPS heroes are pretty bad, some of them are REALLY good in the right situation/map/team-comp.
sometimes i feel like bro just wants to hear himself talk
Fredo joined the Blizzard payroll.
Right
Yea it’s insane
they forgot to pay him though
They got him all wet and gagging 😉
For some time now. Disgraceful.
Best thing about this season is I can pull Winston out and not immediately get faced with Bastion/Reaper/Orisa. It's amazing how a dive meta can change the game's culture.
No no no. That is still there. If you pop out winston without that dull dive team to back you up best believe they will do that to you. Just had it happen last night XD. One fight. I mean just one fight and they all swapped to counter my winston who really didn't do much aside from harass their 76.
edit: Best part was my team still won and I didn't swap.
You were just lucky, it still happens.
@aerostrafe1075 no feeling better than winning as winston after 3 counterswaps. I want them to fear the tickle monster
i rolled a widow as winston that just didn't swap 😂
Love the dive culture now.
“ever”
Ok, simmer down there 😂
As mostly a support and tank player: No.
Support is definitely worse bc it was just violently busted before, but in high ranks it’s better cuz you’re not forced to hard pocket mauga all game. Tank is bad but I think it’ll get better with some tweaks
Same. Its awful
@@FunPolice6969 I cant wrap my Head around the consensus of this patch.
I see plenty of people on TH-cam and Twitter say its horrible, but some say its good.
I see many Content Creator say its fun, but also a few that say it sucks.
Me and my friends think its worse than before, so I dont know what to think anymore.
Support deserve it say as someone who play mostly Support
You get more punish for Bad positioning and not running around and know you have ana and mercy so you can't die
This Patch punishing bad players more
What do you know, the less a map suits widowmaker, the more fun everyone else has!
Lol someone jealous they can't hit shots and others can
@@dx-dragon4399 You're suggesting I should mirror them even if I'm on support? Don't get me wrong, I can deal with them. But doesn't mean I'm having fun.
Who is paying you to say that playing tank is the best and easiest in overwatch 2 currently? No way you have that opinion without a paycheck behind it
“Universal appraisal”
Was looking for this comment 😂 I haven’t touched the season yet, but keep seeing both love & hate.
@@JohnGundythere is a lot of dps mains with less gamesense than a teaspoon
@@JohnGundy Only the Haters are right, they gave everyone Game Journo aim assist.
@@racmanovOverwatch players as a whole are pretty dumb
@@racmanov dps hasn't been fun in overwatch for 8 years now
The fact you say season 9 is the best season with a TANK in the thumbnail tells me all I need to know
I’ve been having fun…
Freedo selling out big time
@@kakashigaiden111i think a lot of arguments against these changes revolve more around viability and competitive balance and is less about enjoyment. the update overall pandered more to casuals anyway
Mkay listen while there definitely are rough patches it really ain't that bad you have to play differently now so it's gonna take a minute to adapt but once you get through that it really does feel better and I'm a tank main for crying out loud
I'm having a blast with junker queen and ramattra
DID THIS GUY SAY THE TANK ROLE IS THE STRONGEST ROLE???????????????????
Yep he’s on the blizz payroll now
Healing debuff is taking some getting used to. Specifically, Ana feels pretty rough right now. But I’m having fun still on the other supports.
It should NOT work for self heal abilities, only received IMO. (Tank Main)
Tank main here rein specifically! but i feel for tanks i feel tanks passive of steadfast should be reworked a little bit into like this Example: Ana:nade,sleep, Lucio: Boop. all CC abilities such as these should all be 35% less effective and time reduced for CC (ana nade lasts less time and sleep is reduced time like it is currently. So you have a choice do I throw it at the tank where we can burst him while its 35% less effective now or the dps player or supports where the time has 100% effectiveness (just an idea). Id like to see what everyone thinks. I hope i explained this well.@@Jittrry
Ana is really rough for me. The only thing I like about playing her currently is sleep dart. I can't get ANYBODY up in a fight for long, can't get kills. It's hard.
I've been having fun with Kiriko, Zen and Moira ( I finally gave in and tried her 😅) though.
Ana is just all in on her CDs right now. Her base healing is nowhere near as strong at pocketing ppl from a distance due to the new passive, and while her damage is very consistent, so is a lot of other dmg now.
Other heroes got brought up to her consistency, but she can't HS. So, now, if you don't use nade and sleep well you kind of just lose a lot of agency in the fight. They can still be VERY strong, but the window to hit them is much smaller and harder.
@@fizzlock even sleep dart isn’t as effective because you can’t 2 tap+nade someone like you used to be able to. Have a hard time keeping someone up +weak to flankers with tracer and genji strong.
She’s by far my most played hero but I have the lowest win rate of any support with her this season and it’s not close.
The major issue I’m having is more with the players. This season has pretty much put the bad players under a bigger microscope. And a lot of these people are refusing to adapt and improve.
some people just like playing certain heroes. Making that hero trash doesnt make them bad if they keep playing it and lose because of how good the hero is.
That's fine by me. Let them sink in rank until they want to take it seriously and look up tips.
It's OK. They will sink in rank if that's the case
@an7617 And when there bad hero gets buffed they will sky rocket in rank. And then nerfed again, people will say, "wtf are you doing?" and go down in rank. and the cycle continues lol.
@@animefan7617 these heroes are finally normal not bad, need to recalibrate perception caz y'all been eating good without even knowing
Tank needs some fixing up...
But fun heroes are meta and the meta is fun. A bigger, bolder step forward than weve seen in years in terms of structural changes.
My issue with tank is the same as always: I never know if I'm performing bad or if my team just sucks.
If I'm playing extra passive and waiting on the enemy to make a mistake, then my team over commits and dies on cooldown and we lose. If I try to flank, my team ints and dies before I can even get into position and we lose. If I play frontline and babysit my team, I get insta focused by spam/CC and explode and we lose. No matter what my plan is, I'm punished. And it's never clear what I did wrong. It feels like ass
I think they should let tanks pick which ever passive they want. So anti heal passive, support passive or knockback passive.
@@tropicata I think the solution to this is to make tank feel strong (reliable damage) or more durable (more HP, debuff resists etc.)
Tank that deals damage(having the flexibility to do so) used to have an entire role devoted to it in 6v6. When they buffed OW2 off-tanks survivability they either took away their tools to deal damage on re-release or in the subsequent patches. This happened at the same time as the total EHP on both teams being reduced by 300+ and only one tank to be the recipient for all the pain the other roles can give. It seems like they're doing adjustments sequentially so it'll feel bad for tanks for a sec. Hopefully they aren't left out to dry. It's been done before and only in OW2's lifespan. OW1 tanks only crisis was the tank role synergy smothering the metas (GOATS variants, 3-0-3 or 2-2-2, for however long it existed). Which was a problem admittedly.
Tank is very good wdym
@@captain4865 Tanks barely get to play. Nothing changed for the tank between last meta and this new patch+hot fix. I'm spamming Lucio until they fix the role. That's how it feels to play tank: play another role that's more fun.
Turns out it only took the dev team a little over a year to make a good change and the change is to revert the system back to sr lol
Pretty much. Also they never changed SR. Just what the we look at on the outside lol.
Now they just need to revert to 6v6 ;)
Tbf it was an insane year with the sexual assault lawsuits, firings, new team members,getting bought as a company
@@mharley3791 and none of them are our problem as consumers. They lied to us for several years let's start with that
Is it just me or Freedo looks like Tom Cruises character in Tropic thunder?
he does in fact look like les grossman
he needs to make a parody music video
solo queue players dont want to play with stacks. Half of my games no one talks. Nothing is going to make them talk and coordinate much more. Just let solo q players play against solo q players. If you like stacking go scrim or play quickplay. Being a soloqueue playing with or against 4 / 5 stacks is the worst experience. And stackers are always smurfing ruining games, a solo smurf wont have as big of an impact.
Playing against 5 stack in masters is pure nightmare
literally why i only hop to play QP
Are you complaining that people have friends
@@nickmersch2530 The premise seems more to do with what is most likely. Do all OW friends play together at all times?
@@ryvyr I find the game unbearable to play alone bc the base community of this game sucks
I've taken a 2 season break from overwatch and I can say that season 9 made me come back to the game and I'm actually having fun playing tank and playing with friends. Yeah there are some games where the enemy DPS just carry the game but those are few in between and don't make the game "unplayable". So glad the new dev team made these changes!
Copiun
The bronze game sense players are out in full affect
true as hell. this patch exposes dog positioning like none other.
I hate how the shills are conditioning people who don't think into repeating the message "Well in overwatch people move so you should hit them regardless of if you were aiming in the opposite direction"
Angry people who thought they were tanks while being carried by an actual tank in OW1
Yall are glazing this patch. Playing hide and seek on tank is the opposite of fun.
Yes, it’s the required game style right now. But is it fun?? NO that’s the problem
@@vp301 most people playing since the release but the game isn’t fun lmfao
People are playing tank the same way they were and wondering why it isn’t working. It may be hard to swallow that you were boosted by mechanical ability but you gotta change up if you want to succeed on tank this season. Super fun to play Winston if you don’t just run it down
1:10
sort of a hot take, as a lot of ppl miss "old overwatch", but I 100% agree... dont get me wrong, they were absolutely great at *making* the game... just not nearly as good in supporting it, pretty standard blizzard behavior tbf
I like the season, but saying tank is strong and dps is weak is an interesting perspective
It’s a dummy perspective
it’s completely inaccurate. just the existence of the dps passive makes tanks worse. tanks that cannot mitigate damage are nearly impossible to thrive on in the same way and as a result DPS are absolutely stronger. there are some games on tank now where your only job is to not die.
Can we get looking for group back please
FINALLY someone! I loved that feature.
I love that they are finally letting us play with friends again
I don't have any friends who Play Overwatch competitively anymore should I just quit? I really love this game I don't really want to. But it does feel like the new patch punishes lack of teamwork a lot, and you're a lot more reliant on hoping your teammates understand what they are playing. Also, I don't actually find this meta that much fun like everyone else, It feels very restrictive and boring... then again, a lot of previous Meta's were even more restrictive and boring. For context, my Friends kind of just dropped the game, and I didn't want to leave because I enjoyed it, so I've been playing alone since then.
I feel u man. The streamers who are glazing this patch are all stacking so they don’t see the real issues with the game rn.
Just quit. Play a fun game and keep watching overwatch content. It will make you realise why your friends quit and in some time you will see how bad this game really is and then you will not have that itch for the game anymore or fill it with a game thats better. There's a reason your friends quit.
@@majorshepard2 Sigh, i watched some 2022 Overwatch 6v6 clips of mine and the game just felt and look insanely more fun, sure you had the occaisonal 2x Shield, but that was fixable.
Now every fucking Season is some shitshow, every season 1 - 2 Tanks and Supports are must pick, your player skill matters less, it matters more what you pick. 5v5 has ruined the Depth of this game so fucking much its insane.
All my friends quit S1 Overwatch 2 and if i wouldnt have played 5k Hours OW1 and if OW1 wouldnt be my favourite game ever would have quit too already.
They should just swallow their ego and try a 6v6 patch, a real 6v6 patch, nerf Tank HP, nerf Supports, nerf Shields.
@hepard2 Problem: no FPS game has been more fun for me. Most have been dull in comparison, or I couldn't enjoy the characters and visuals enough to get attached to them. I feel every other shooter is either too gritty looking or too whimsical, and I don't enjoy how they look. I guess my problem is I don't want to not use the FPS skills I've built up, but no other shooter (That I have found) has been entertaining to me. Otherwise, I probably would have quit a while ago. I guess I could just move on to playing only nonshooters I enjoy, like Pokémon, Zelda, Animal Crossing, and Fire Emblem, but idk. My friends left to play some edgy-looking shooter, and I just couldn't enjoy it. The closest thing to a shooter I have enjoyed other than Overwatch was like Sea of Thieves... and Palworld looks cute, I guess. TF2 also looks cool I should probably try that. Edit: Basically, TLDR, by my personal preference, Due to art style, there hasn't been a better shooter game because even if a game is better in all other aspects, if it's too gritty or edgy, I just don't find it fun. (other than maybe TF2)
@@heiko2255 I wish there would be more experimental leaps made that they could go back on if it didn't work, we should at least try it, like that's basically what this patch was a huge leap of faith, so maybe that will happen more idk
This title is cap
No u
He needs the dough
Overwatch 2 has Been absolutely miserable until this season. Still needs a lot of work but much better than before. The game takes more skill now is that what bothers you
He got you to click
@@crustychildren I’m GM2 on tank and GM1 on dps, masters 1 on supp this season, I think this is the best overwatch 2 season, best ever, cap
I’m glad everyone is loving the season at least. I hate it. So, so much.
Higher ranked players hate the changes. Overwatch has been dumbed down since they removed the second tank.
Im just happy about heal is not broken anymore and aim and positioning is more rewarding
@@muysli.y1855 Yeah that's great that the tanks aren't broken anymore but we're still missing a tank! I just can't with Overwatch 2.
I wouldnt call it best season, maybe for OW2 standards but that isnt hard to do.
Tanks still feel horrendous, many supports are just unsatisfying because you cant really heal and are unbalance and Hitscans are by far the most opressive.
Many other DPS like Sombra dont feel great either and the game overall just has insane balance issues, the gap between the best and worst heroes has increased drastically.
Its a decent patch, but if this is regarded as OW2s and 5v5s Peak then i dont know what to tell you.
It will never reach the Amazing and special feeling that playing 6v6 gave you.
Preach!! 6v6 synergies like rein/zar and Winston/dva will never be forgotten. 1,000 times better than the state of the game now
Don't forget that the core gameplay is quite literally all overwatch has too. Garbage progression, garbage monetization, garbage lore, garbage casual gamemodes, it's either play to rank up or get bored in a week.
Ofc friends change everything, but friends can make any game fun.
@@InnerAwes0me
They made the Gameplay worse.
Removed Account Levels so your only real incentive to play is for the Battle Pass... when you have that done you dont have anything to do except ranked.
You dont get any meaningful amount of premium coins, not even in the BP.
Lore got butchered a bit because they swapped the lore writers like 3x because the Original Lead Writer from 2016 left in 2020, which sucks because he and his team made Lore by far better than the current team.
Voice Lines too, the old ones had charm and werent that cringe, new Voice Lines are often kinda cringey.
The Rank Icons, the HUD and the Soundtrack (Play of the Game Music for example) all are worse imo but thats just subjective.
The only thing i like about OW2 is it being F2P.
Nice timing. Right as i take my dog out. Always love the videos
this video ages so bad in just a month
How much did blizzard pay you for this title ?
Wow, a man can't enjoy a game nowadays, can he?
It's never possible someone isn't as miserable as you right?
I just wanna heal and now people die thru my heals it makes me wanna kms
The game feels as fun to play as ow1 year one. Maybe you’re just not great.
He openly shits on the PVE content so I kinda believe he means this. People can have different opinions.
lol Freedo I love your endless optimism of this game. And I appreciate that, as divergent as they are, your opinions are well-articulated and very much your own. Been years since I've had any faith in OW and Blizz and general, but these videos are just plainly entertaining.
These changes are good, but combined with the immediate rank reset it has lead high plat to low master being a complete mess where the skill differences between players makes every other match unplayable due to alarmingly high amount of people who definitely should not be there...
How is Sym easier to play? Turrets seem useless at higher ranks and beam damage requires near constant contact.
Turrets apply debuff. They're good in a pinch, but they're not good in general as a builder mechanic. Which is a good thing. Probably giver her dmg fixes though.
Just hold the beam on them constantly?
@@maximos105able Movement can be fast and not everyone shares the same time/capacity for accurate fast mouse movement. (edit: of course thumbstick mastery included in that)
Am I missing something?
@@ryvyrWell thats the point of the game, just get better.
@@josephreynolds2401 If understood, that seems to be in line with my thinking, in that higher ranks seem to render builder mechanics less impactful.
Bro is blizzards ride or die even when it’s going down deadman’s hill 💀
Played OW since its 2017 debut and I am impressed with how much OW2 has improved over the beginning of 2024.
All my friends are back on and enjoying the game. Excited for season 10.
overwatch 2 improving is a falacy when ow2 relase was complete shit
@@verguco6051 release was shit cuz Bobby Kotick rushed everybody to get it done so they removed a lot of stuff
@@Bluemansonic so? ow2 launch was shit and the game is still shit, any "improvement" is not an improvement, is making things should be since launch
He said tank is the strongest role 🤣🤣🤣🧢
This man has to be the biggest hack in TH-cam history.
it's sad to see you drop your morals for money
If I hear “Now this is actually overwatch 2” one more time …
Until we get the PVE mode promised, then it isn't Overwatch 2. Just Overwatch 1.1
@@DamienBlade Nah its actually Overwatch 0.5
They turned my favourite game ever with depth, strategy and lots of teamplay, into a mindless 5v5 deathmatch. Its evolving backwards.
I have yet to even experience 10% of the fun i had playing 6v6 and Overwatch 1, the whole ass game is Joke.
Going 5v5 and turning it more deathmatchy might work short term, but over long you would have more players and more hardcore players with 6v6, which actually had a higher skill ceilling and didnt make Tanks fucking miserable to play.
@@heiko2255 Agree. 6v6 was WAYYYY more fun. It's not even close.
I truly wanna experience the games they do because what?? Are we playing the same game? I’m in the high play low Diamond range. The game feel so uneven, so many competitive matches are one sided, and the game hasn’t been fun for awhile
All the streamers who think this patch is great are stacking the entire time. If they weren’t stacking they’d realize it’s dogshit
Thats probs more due to the sr reset, and players not knowing what theyre doing than it is the actual patch itself. I'd say in general the game is more fun than it was before, but theres alot of tank and dps players that don't understand the new dps passive and its consequences, and will still stand out in the open waiting for heals and screaming at their supports. And then also by nature of a rank reset you have some people in games they simply dont belong in.
This is gaslighting season 9 killed the game for me
I use to watch and respect Your Overwatch for so long. But it’s so clear that they have become the biggest sell outs ever. Just watch Samito. He keeps it 100%.
8:55 WHAT WAS THAT ILLARI ULT!? NAAAAAAH
i giggled
I've only played a bit of the new patch (Quick Play because I don't want to stress out) & it feels a lot better, hopefully I'll be able to convince some of my friends to start playing OW again. I fully believe Microsoft are going to able to save OW, obviously they won't be able to undo a lot of the damage done but they can at least make the game better.
Also I did not realise Eddy is the editor, I miss Eddy & Liam but thank you Freedo for continuing to upload OW videos through all the game's problems & mistakes.
Nobody of your friends will turn on the game when they see that you can turn away and still headshot someone that's not on your screen
Freedo’s point about 4 minutes in is exactly right. It’s what Samito gas even arguing for for years, skill/reward curve balancing. You can play Moira/Orisa/Bastion in bronze and get tons of value, but as you go up better players should be able to outplay simple cheese and you need to learn harder heroes to attain higher value peaks.
Freedo says he “doesn’t want a balanced game, he wants a fun game” but I’d argue a balanced game is the one where heroes are NOT even on winrate at all levels. If Widow is above 50% WR in bronze, the game isn’t balanced. If Moira is above 50% WR in GM, the game isn’t balance. Some hero designs are more niche than others, and a strength of OW is how certain heroes are better tools for certain jobs. Widow is good on J Town and Havana but shouldn’t be on Lijang Control Center.
What I disagree with though, is that this patch has moved this direction for DPS, however supports are more reliant on invulnerability cooldowns and tank feels more miserable than ever. In 6v6, all we needed to do was balance the game like this, where you shouldn’t have to put 5x the effort on Genji to get just half the value of Torb. That feels terrible. I agree that Blizz shouldn’t try to balance it, cuz they’ll just buff Orisa, Kiriko, Bastion, etc. all these toxic designs that make the game play bad. But, in 6v6 I think there was more of a balance in all the roles being able to get value, we just had to stop designing supports with broken AOE heals/invulnerabilities.
Ultimately, this patch is the peak of how 5v5 can feel. Tank is just always going to get shafted in this format. I’d argue the fun of tank was synergizing with your cotank/team, even if it was simply waiting to push in on Rein for when your out of voice ball drew aggro. Much better than eating all 5 enemy’s CD’s at once. It’s great Blizz has brought some fun factor back, but I think it’d be more fun especially for tank if we didn’t need all these weird passives and such if we went back to 6v6 and just maintained a balance philosophy where skill is rewarded and things can actually be punished and not infinitely sustain.
I want some maps back. I miss Napal. That was probably one of my favorite maps. I also miss the space station map. I wish they would put a little into those for ranked play again.
Where are LFGs?
I've been playing OW since day one (but with some 'angry vacations' here and there), i'm disabled mentally, and here's my thoughts (though they probably won't fit with that many people).
Also, thought i should move this near the top just in case: "Keep up the great work Freedo, your videos are a big help! And thank you for sticking through all this and not giving up on OW."
This is the first time ever (or as far as i can remember) that i can play EVERY character (except Illari and Mauga, for now), to a point where i feel like i'm still contributing! For once i don't have to Only play characters like Reinhardt, Orisa (ow1), Junkrat, Bastion (ow1), Mercy, or Moira without dragging my team down.
Back when they first added "game speed" to the custom parameters, i found that (for me personally) i can handle the game so much better at 92% speed (less 'thoughts required per second to play well' or something). I remember immediately emailing Overwatch/Blizard asking if they could add something like a "slightly slower quick play, just for people who need it" game mode.
Of course, i got back the typical corporate pre-written response; but i wonder if the current team would be more open to at least considering something like it? I know that i tested ow1, so ow2 might need a different number; but as of this patch, it seems like 100% might be doable (for what i can do).
Sigma seems like the only character over time i have gotten genuinely good at, not 'good at for free'(i mean, if the quantum shoe fits… ). Season 9 didn't seem to effect him that much; though no matter how fair/balanced he can get, i will always miss being able to 'shield flicker'.
Last thing, then i'Il stop. I wish they would add a Group Finder back in, because that was the only way of finding NEW friends; otherwise it's who you have in your friends list, and maybe some of theirs (but adding to your friends list by meeting people is gone).
Ok, let me have it; how was my take?
Glazers like Freedo, are enjoying this patch while STACKING. That makes a complete difference and no one is talking about it.
Facts
I am an ow1 alpha player. I remember a time Freedo where you were ready to quit this game. Now it is great to see you happy and enjoying this game again. I have been having a hard time getting into this patch. I think if I lean back to playing with friends as you have, I might enjoy this patch and game more. Great advise. Thank you sir.
Stacking is the only way playing this patch is bearable. That’s why Freedo is glazing
He does not get enough money from his valorant TH-cam channel so he has to gobble up blizzard. He always does that.
lootbox and bringing back 6v6 are the only thing that can fix this game.
HELL YEAH BRO 😎 GREAT VID AS ALWAYS 💪
Absolutely could not disagree more. There have been almost zero positive changes this season, with one of the few exceptions being ironically the self-healing passive.
OverWatch 2 has become a joke, somehow more than it already was. And honestly shame on the devs for their second major rug pull just since the launch of OverWatch 2 alone.
They completely replaced the game that millions of us put hundreds of hours into over the course of the last year and a half and there is no option to go back.
Glazing when the season just started
If they can make Tanks receive 10% (instead of 20%) less healing and immune to cc/ or lesson it, then this patch would be perfect. Playing Tank still feels like a poke/peak/blow up game.
i said the same thing. 20% is too much. should be 10% for tanks
Idk man, good Winston, balls and DVAs absolutely TAKE over games harder than I’ve ever seen. Especially if there’s coordination between those tanks and dive heroes, almost impossible to win against coordination. If we made those tanks even harder to kill…. GG
10-15% less healing instead would be perfect imo. No cc would be dumb though this is the first patch Lucio has felt normal since way earlier in Overwatch 1 finally being able to boop again, and heroes need to be able to protect themselves from tanks free walking on them for the game to function heathily. I have been enjoying tank surprisingly a lot on the new patch though
I fully agree, they need to increase the sustain of tanks
@@mrpetebojangles21 So 1/3rd of the tanks are good?
Freedo i implore you pls make a how to tank guide for season 9 seeing as you seemingly know something that half the tank playerbase doesnt. Make it make sense to people like me who are miserable playing tank this season.
I think he is just a masochist.
As a OW1 GM Tank main, i dont touch the role anymore, i know many pros that quit the role or even the game because of 5v5.
Its just miserable, if he somehow thinks its fun facetanking all CC and being perma discorded and blown up, good for him, but i miss Tank Duos and OW2s tank expierence is a 1/10 maybe a 2/10 at best.
@@heiko2255 im being serious, I love tank in OW2 overall I think its better then ow1. But this season, this season man it's been so rough. Ivr never considered leaving my main role this hard before. But I don't wanna give up, but every time I tank this season I just feel like I have so little impact on the game and have to play even safer than last season. I just wanna play Ram again without keeling over after 3seconds of getting shot at.
You just have to take smarter engages before, yes tank is harder but it’s not impossible, and in some cases it’s better. Unless you play rein lol
@@brandongosch7969 How would i do that on Ramattra?
I poke at range with my primary fire, using my shield as well as natural cover to break line of sight. I try to save nemesis form for if I need some extra defense, or if I need to try to brawl close; blocking if and when i need to.
But 3/5 times this season whenever I try to push up to take space I get shredded like tissue paper. I feel like i have almost 0 choice in how the game progresses now. It's all on my DPS to get kills and my supports to try and keep me up and I'm just there for the ride.
Better dpses wins. You have no agency anymore. Only thing you can do is try to outlive oponent tank
My two problems with tank (console metal rank player)
1. If your supports or dps aren’t as good as theirs you have no control over the game at all
2. Orisa doesn’t take a lot of skill and basically stops the other tank from playing the game or farms your team if they aren’t as good (which forces you to swap dva which doesn’t automatically win you that game
Facts
1. Same as every role
2. There’s more Orisa counters
@@sealordx27001. No
2. No
the thing I like the most is just that DPS / tank characters aren't left out in the cold if a support forgets to heal them (in the backline or in between fights). And not dying instantly a lot.
It is good to hear you talking positively about the game
Can we please have group finder added back in from OW 1? The sudden removal of their only community building tool (and a mostly good one at that) and the complete silence around the topic is confusing. 95% of the friends on my list got there from joining/making a group with group finder
Blizzard commented somewhere that the group up feature caused a lot more problems than it solved (might have been during blizzcon). I agree with you though - that was the most fun I had in Overwatch. Meeting new people and getting to play in a stack
I really don’t think I could disagree any more. If TTK is increased for DPS (hence making them worse), the same is true for tanks, especially the ones who cannot burst damage as consistently as many dps. Also skill gap does not equal “strongest” role. In the end the vast majority of the player base is metal ranks, as it should be. This doesn’t mean metal rank players just need to get good and the unfun nature of tanks is fixed…
This aged liked a dirty diaper in a milk bath.
Definitely need to dial back the projectile size/hitbox a bit but I like the initial direction of the patch.
Don't agree with DPS being the weakest role though. My experience in plat/diamond lobbies has been damage carrying every single game. As a tank/support player, you either have the good dmg players or you don't and that usually determines the outcome of the game.
The hitbox changes rob players who want to get good of any endgame satisfaction of actually playing good, all so that the guy who made the Cuphead video can actually start playing.
@@foodyrulez what
And playing zen usually = win
Bro has NOT played against a damage boosted pharah that understands the rework
Maybe cuz bro is NOT silver
Says symmetra is easy while showing no aim no brain Winston on screen
if you think winston takes no brains you clearly don’t play that character so hush up peanut gallery
They should adjust the base universal speed of each individual character at this point, ie. wintons' base walk speed could be buffed to help close the gap in between targets.
we need a crossplay competitive queue please!!! my friends okay on console and we'd love to play comp together
what do we all think of a DPS character whose main job is to enhance their DPS partner in some way? think of some old wise master that can inspire his student to push themself or something like that. in solo queue, it can really feel like the 2 DPS are playing a single player game where SOMETIMES someone else also happens to be shooting the same target. maybe more synergy within the DPS category would help
Hey Fredo! Can you make a video explaining the new ranked system? I think people are confused about how it works
I get what he's saying about dva And winston but i've been playing rein and it feels like hell.
Well there’s ur problem bro 😂
Try a tank that doesn’t suck shit rn
Rein ultimately is still only 1 of the 10 tanks in the game, and I'd wager that considering only 3/10 of the tanks are actually bad to play (as in not a competitive option according to community sentiment) the game is objectively in a pretty acceptable state balance wise. I can make him work in a surprising number of competitive situations in high diamond/low masters, and he def feels better to me than before. Feels like shielding teammates actually does something now, and his damage can actually cut through support self-healing healing by himself which rewards you immensely when you actually get a good rush down off.
They will eventually have to do something to patch up tank survivability as a role though. TTK is longer than before but not long enough to make playing face tank style heroes that aren't Orisa fun. But this patch did make tank more fun for me as an OW1 vet.
Reins been bad for a while devs gotta give him some help
so helldivers
What's that?
People are disliking this video cuz its a month old, humanity is doomed
I'm really liking this seasson, but I think a few heroes need to be rebalanced. Rein, Junk, Mouga, etc. Not to fell strong, but to fell less of a F pick.
As a ball main i cant kill anything, it feel wrong to run away from fight all the time as a tank
Same, I found ball so much easier to get value from before this season at diamond rank .
Matchmaking has felt awful, even more snowball than before but now you can’t leave
My biggest concern is my second main, Brig. Her aura has become extremely underwhelming in the fact of the new DPS passive and her ult does nothing.
ive stopped playing for half a year now, is it worth the reinstall?
no
Yes but more than likely wait til season 10
This new version is going to take a lot of getting used to. I haven't played it much, but it's kicking my butt. I mostly play support, and the healing nerfs make me feel like I can't save anything. xD It's painful playing support now, but I'm not great at the game overall so that's a factor I'm sure.
I personally like the previous version of the Rank system because now I don't take a win seriously
after the update i found the game harder, you just have more time to do stuff and so does the other person.
Hard disagree on limiting swaps
The assault map first point cap time needs to be lengthed and rein needs a rework hella hard. So far so good tho
If we have big changes such as format change on the seasons between heroes, the game will always feel fresh
Send this video link to Samito please. Whenever I see him on Noobhunter he looks like he’s having a breakdown.
Literally just had a 5 stack of randoms after I shot called and played dive monkey Sombra tracer Lucio moira/kiri. after the first game we all grouped up and went 7-1 and was literally peak overwatch for me back in season 4 ow1. when we got sloppy and monkey diving without my tracer being in position we would start to lose or lucio not having amp and get impatient and try to engage off CD but then we would tighten up, he'd wait for my calls on positioning and soft engaging and waiting and setting up dives, we rollllledddddd enemy team. Was very tight tho and as soon as that synergy slacked it reflected in the outcomes of the team fights. We always came back and would make those subtle micro adjustments to our engagements and was such a fun way to play the game. I'd call me forcing bastion cool down, before engagement and soft engagement until he's off of cooldown or whoever had their win condition like kiri ult and baiting our dives forcing them to commit to really be just disengaging for a follow up engagement in 10 seconds or w.e.. didn't feel like that was possible as much in seasons past so as a diehard overwatch fan whose literally been playing since season 1 of overwatch 1 am very happy with season 9 and the hotfix so far.
It could be due to the "rank reset" however the lobbies are scuffed, im plat 2 and have been anywhere from lobbies of silver to former masters and gms and the "expected outcomes" are inconsistent as i can lose the game and it wont even give the consolation when they had a masters 3 widow ☹️
Well with the reset they're gonna be scuffed for a minute until people finally start settling into ranks and it's more clear cut who the good and bad players of this season are
Blizz loves this it fixes the big problem with owl now huge plays are gonna be plentaful. And with the hit boxes bigger gives low level players a better chance to land thoose big plays. Its a smart move by blizz not sure im a fan of it but i see where they are goin which could re launch pro play to new heights.
The desperation lmao
In the video, you can say that you're a DPS fan and finally, you can kill healers without having to aim at anything literally.
They brought back this game for the cryhard DPS players who complained about immortal tanks and healers, when in reality, it was a skill issue and exaggeration from whiny DPS players.
This season isn't fun; it literally feels like every character gained 200 pounds, and every shot hits you, whether it's in the head or somewhere else. The 20% less healing feels eternal, and there's almost never an opportunity to heal without being cursed by the 20% periodically.
This season, whether they like it or not, is fun for DPS players because finally, they don't have to put too much effort into aiming, and now we literally have 20% less healing almost all the time.
Trash season and favoritism for whiny DPS players.
Tanks, as healers, have almost no utility; Zen is now the terror of tanks more than ever, and Ana as well.
DPS healers have more utility than healers who are barely focused on being a hybrid of healer and DPS.
PREACH‼️
They need LFG back, so I can actively avoid squeakers.
Imagine thinking Sym is easy.
Is Zen still a glass cannon?
I FARDED and I filled my pant ❤
Plat tank is awful right now, your team will feed their ass off and go on to blame the tank
Hmmm.. are you perhaps trying to dive and leaving your teammates with no frontline while also not actually accomplishing enough in your dive to pull enough resources away from your front line?
@@_korbo_ tanks dont to enough dmg to pull resources
@@MostlyNOOB Clearly you haven't played against a good enough doomfist. When the skill difference is high enough, he can disrupt the entire team alone.
Besides hanzo not being able to one shot anymore and pharah with a mercy pocket absolutely terrorizing my teams. I really do enjoy this patch.
how can i find people to group up with for qp?