HUGE Reinhardt & Mauga BUFFS! - Midseason Patch Season 9 Update
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- IS THE TANK ROLE SAVED? Almost half the the tanks got buffed today as well as a nerf to the DPS passive overall (and buffs to many anti-tank DPS). We will be LIVE STREAMING testing of this patch as soon as this video goes live, so check us out in the links below!
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The size nerf is actually a buff, Emongg watched a tiktok that showed people aiming at the head with Zen and Hanzo and getting body shots because the projectile size was so large so in essence, you were getting punished for being accurate
Yeah the one thing in this patch that would have actually benefitted Hanzo, and they compensated it by reverting a previous change. Weirdge
Also on Kiri
The smaller projectile size will prevent the chest blocking headshots because the chest sticks out further than the head on most hitboxes, so a smaller projectile is less likely to “clip” the top of the chest on the way to the head now. Not sure why this would only affect fast projectiles though. My guess is that those are the ones where this effect is most noticeable and the projectiles that generally have the ability to headshot?
It would be cool if they did what siege did with there penetration. Ex) rifles will pen arms to hit things like the chest and head
But if you shoot above or beside the head you are also much less likely to hit
Frido didn’t even try to understand it lmfao 😭. Exposed as a hanzo hater
@@thijmstickman8349 ya that’s def a nerf but I think it’s would be good on characters like Kiri. I feel like I have to aim above people now to hit more consistent headshots compared to before where it’s mostly head and some body. As for the pen R6 thing maybe only give it to hit scan or other really fast projectiles.
The slower projectiles tend to not be able to headshot. Think Pharah rockets, junk nades
REIN BUFFS LETS FUCKING GOOOO!!!!!
RAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH
25 Armor and undoing the accidental nerf they did to him when they buffed EVERYONE'S health isn't exactly a buff.
@@Tekshipie man tbh, I’ll take anything I can get at this point
Tbh, his firestrike cool-down should be 5 seconds instead of 6
The 5 Reinhardt mains are so happy and I'm one of them 😅
HONOR! JUSTICE! REINHARDT! REINHARDT! REINHARDT!
Beer! Beer!
COPE COPE COPE!!!!!
rein gets knocked down from orisa gold and mauga run now
"HUGE REIN CHANGES" bro got 25 armor and remembered that firestrike is an ability if thats huge i dont even know what to say.
Combined with dps passive reduction, it is indeed huge.
@@xdaywolf nah its significant but not huge at all
Firestrike is their comfort ability to buff because it is the one that bronze players aren't using well
@@ooochoa (They buffed pin and hammer damage last patch)
@@xdaywolf it also applies to all the other tanks, so he’s still bottom tier
Damn, a Sombra buff just as I was starting to enjoy this season...
dont forget sym buff too
Right? Such a garbage character. And no Moira nerfs...
Hack is useless since the rework. Not that big
She was balanced perfectly before this. Hot garbage if you randomly pick her but good if used in certain comps or to counter certain heroes
For real. Sombra take no skill
i would like to see them make the DPS passive 10%, but have it stack so that if both DPS players are attacking the same enemy, that enemy will take 20% heal reduction. That way we still have the same level of potency, but only against one enemy at a time, and it incentivizes team coordination to efficiently eliminate targets
From what I understand about the projectile size change, there have been problems with the projectiles hitting the chest hitbox before the head hitbox, so it registers as a body shot. This is most likely because the chest being further out from the head. It’s also really apparent when shooting up at someone.
Huge rein buffs
Where?
Rein is huge, and got buffed.
You read it wrong.
What was the point of rebalancing and boosting everyone's health, if they now buff all the dmg attacks???
they just change things to make players think they care about the game or for the mass majority of players that are dopamine starved and want constant changes and content, next update expect a video player in the top left that plays minecraft parkour constantly
@@moltensh4dow506Yup this is how it starts. They'll buff one or two heroes, those heroes will become noticeably better and everyone will start playing them. Blizz will start looking at "who isn't being played" and will start buffing them. A year or two from now everyone will again be complaining about power creep. The circle of lifeeeeeeeee! lol
They buffing tanks bro, they need it.
If you want to make Rein more viable, it's not the ranged attack or the armor that you need to improve... he's the only close-combat tank, yet he's not the strongest tank in close-combat (wtf) and gets decimated by Ramatra, Orisa, Mauga.
I see 2 ways to make Rein viable:
1. A passive buff that increases his melee damage against other tanks (and only tanks).
2. Make his shield more effective, since he's THE shield hero of the game AND can't attack at all while using his shield, unlike other shield tanks. For example, let him have a shield that blocks certain things that other shields don't (maybe not phyisic attacks, but at least, for example, Moira's ult, Ramattra's Pummel) or, alternatively, better resistance to turret/beam damage.
it should cancel Sym’s primary passive too. Anytime i see Rein get played, someone plays Sym to infinitely decimate his shield
His hammer should do a flat amount of damage as well as a percentage of max health. Or maybe current. Either way, tweaking such a number would ensure that Rein can fight tanks effectively without the side effect of accidentally one shotting tracer with a regular m1 swing
the hanzo arrow size is crucial. ive had to aim slightly above the head hitbox to avoid the arrow hitting the top of the chest hitbox
Rein's shield should charge his firestrike or his pin. Hear me out. Yeah its a doom-like mechanic, but it could help him alot. making pin's take off speed a big burst, or making firestrike stronger, wider or faster. or if not his barrier, his hammer swings could charge him over time. some kind of berserker mechanic would be nice
4:15 The chest hitbox is a large ball and the head hitbox is a smaller ball. They overlap a bit... think of a snowman. If you aim at the opponents jaw then a large projectile might graze the chest hitbox on its way to the head hitbox, which causes it not to be a headshot. If you reduce the size of the projectile then hitting the jaw won't touch the chest on the way in
I really wish they weren't so afraid to just make changes that exclusively affect Tanks. The heal reduction passive was honestly fine at 20% in most cases, it just hurt Tanks the most, and I don't think reducing it to 15% helps Tanks that much in the end. I wish they just make the rule "it's 20% normally, except for Tanks where the effect is halved" or something. I think the dev team simply doesn't want to make too many "Exception" rules to prevent things from getting confusing and hard to pick up for the average player, but they need to accept that after they made the Tank role a singular one that they have to make exceptions that only apply to that role to keep things balanced. There are so many things in the game (DPS passive, Ult retention on switching, anti-heal effects) that work against the Tank role so much more than it does the other roles that you really can't make "blanket" changes to them to balance things overall, it just makes things MORE unbalanced because the entire system was unbalanced from the start.
Pretty sure others have pointed this out, but according to the bugfixes, disjointed damage sources (i.e. sym/torb turrets and BOB) were not applying the dps passive. They are now.
So thankful for reaper buffs. Certainly felt like a struggling dps. Felt good when in optimal position, but how many ults did I use that tickled bootyholes and nothing else? lol
Lol fr
I see Sombra buff, I wonder why this is in the game, I get depressed
Be better?
I don’t like sombra, but felt like it’s needed due to the fact genji tracer are so much gooder
@@haydenp8417and those pesky zenyatta and ball players
@@haydenp8417so buff everyone instead nerfing the overperformers
Sombra is on the same level of Genji and Tracer. The only difference is Genji and Tracer take lots more skill than Sombra.
Blizzard is making the same mistake for the hundredth time; buffing low skill heroes to be on par with high skill heroes, thus making the high skill heroes worthless for their value.@@haydenp8417
no moira changes??? HOW ARE YOU SO CALM FREEDO?!
Let’s the moiras be free 😈
@@dah2437 "Moira is offensive to the skill expression of the game."
@@plain-bagelSo why we see more moiras in high rank?
Moira should stay as low elo hero, ranged auto aim (no improvement) is enough reward i don't wan't these bad players
@@muysli.y1855 so what your saying is Moira is bad and you blame your teammates to feel better about yourself 😗
@@CarriB65 Heroes like moira and Brig shouldn't be in High elo this has nothing do do with myself, just bad Heroes Design.
I don't like what Blizzard did with bringing more casual player to Overwatch but than these Heroes shouldn't be higher ranks.
Its always a worst Season when Brig or Moira is meta
And i play this sh*t since 2016
Always appreciate your insights!
The projectile change is good as Kiriko, sometimes I’m hitting a headshot but the game processes it as a bodyshot instead
The forbidden technique is to not aim at the head but just a tiny bit above their heads. Huge hitbox is still big enough to hit the head and it misses all the body stuff in the way like chest/arms/etc. It kinda incentivized intentionally not aiming at the target to hit the target lol
There were clips of hanzos hitting headshots, but it would register as a chest shot due to its size
The projectile change is about headshots becoming bodyshots because the projectile size made the edge of the projectile interact with the chest before the head.
For anyone confused about the projectile size decrease, imagine Hanzo's arrow hitbox is a giant cube. Now imagine shooting the head of a roadhog. The issue was that the bottom front of the arrow was hitting the body of the roadhog before it could get to the head. The change allows for more precision.
With a smaller projectile it's less likely to clip some other body part before the head
Freedo punching the air with moira not getting any changes
Her healing got buffed due to dps passive being nerfed xD
The projectile change is because you couldn't hit tracers head by aiming at her head. It woyld hit her arms instead. There are a few other heroes that would happen on too.
huge rine buffs is a massive overstatement
Why didn’t they add some sort of visual or sound for when you are getting the 15% damage reduction? That’s a big deal especially playing tank
I think did this with the new Patch
The projectile size thing is huge for me. I play a ton of kiriko and I notice the body shorting issue a lot
Important to note that Sombra's virus now does 50 damage to hacked targets instead of 20. Virus was heavily nerfed when everyone's health went up so this ups Sombra's lethality again.
That 5% is HUGE for elos that dont orchestrate properly and collapse onto a target for the finish. Though this definitely is going to buff Orisa at those same elos lmao.
I completely understand the projectile size they're talking about. I can make a diagram showing it, but it's hard to put into words.
I know when they first changed widow if I hit a target in the head far away it would count as a body shot so I'd have to aim above the head. So to me it sounds like they want Hanzo to have to kind of lob the long shots for a headshot but someone like zen doesn't
Health increases + damage increases are pretty much just nerfs to healing and health packs. I get that S9 rework was massive, but I hope the power creep doesn’t get out of hand.
Serious talk, can we nerf DvA? Defense Matrix eats WAY too much (including a wide variety of ults AND projectile heals,) and if you want to move off a projectile hero you have like 2 dps options, neither of which are actually that good against dva given she can just fly out of their limited range. Also, with barrier heroes you at least have the option of moving around a barrier and shooting from another angle. Defense Matrix is a LOT harder to punish because she can just flick in another direction as soon as you shoot from a different angle (not to mention her jets punish anyone taking an off angle.) How do you punish a tank that can eat almost anything AND has the mobility to escape (or punish?) She can conserve her defense matrix well enough to both be using it regularly AND always have enough reserved to stop a crucial ult or other ability it seems. At the VERY least, a way for the enemy to tell when she's low on DM resource would be great (similar to seeing cracks in a barrier) so there's SOME way to gauge when to engage on her.
Okay so no mention of Baptiste, but upon looking at the patch notes his Lamp minimum health threshold was decreased from 25-20% like is that what it saves people at or?
The Hero mastery gauntlet sounds like Zombies Outbreak
5:08 lol I got 5 on it reference was nice.
Oddly enough, some of the biggest changes were the bug fixes. Apparently the DPS passive was not being applied at all by Torbjorn’s or Symmetra’s turrets.
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got up my knowkedge here, to being able to raise skull and awarness from silver 2 to a master in tank and support.
Major dps passive issue Is no damage threshold before being applied. Tracers can tag whole team in Just 2 seconds.
i would put It on maybe minimal damage done on 20.
Ilary seems to get a bit of rework?? i am thinking that when She was designed nobody thought about HP increase.
i sort of like the changes they have made to hog but at the same time i miss his alternate fire, despite it being hard to hit that perfect shot
Tank counter pick roulette is what makes me miss 6v6 the most. I never play tank anymore because of it
10:31 LMAO 🤣
Excited about the Reinhart and rammatra buffs, the roadhog buffs were absolutely not needed
Heroes nerfed from the projectile hitbox adjustment:
Sojourn - Railgun (Primary) |160|
Ana - Biotic Rifle (Unscoped) |125|
Torbjorn - Rivet Gun (Secondary) |120|
Mei - Endothermic Blaster (Icicle) |115|
Hanzo - Storm Bow (Maximum Draw) |110|
Hanzo - Storm Arrows |110|
Mercy - Valkyrie (Caducius Blaster) |100|
Orisa - Augmented Fusion Driver |90|
Kiriko - Kunai |90|
Zenyatta - Orb of Destruction (Single) |90|
Zenyatta - Orb of Destruction (Volley) |90|
Doomfist - Hand Cannon |80|
Ramattra - Void Accelerator |80|
Roadhog - Scrap Gun (Primary) |80|
Brigitte - Whip Shot |80|
Echo - Tri-Shot |75|
Orisa - Energy Javelin |70|
Torbjorn - Rivet Gun (Primary) |70|
Genji - Shuriken (Primary) |60|
Genji - Shuriken (Secondary) |60|
Pharah - Concussive Blast |60|
Ana - Sleep Dart |60|
the devs still don’t seem to understand why illari is underperforming I think
BRIG IS INSANE!!! Less dps passiv massivly impacts her self heal and 20% faster repair packs are extremely strong + much faster ult!
When was reading the patch notes, the brig changes were to only ones that made me audibly gasp.
Shhhhhhhh don’t tell them
Torbjorn, Symmetra, Hog, Orisa, Sombra, Mei . Why we buffing the cheesiest, most momentum killing heroes. Poke at the choke gameplay just became a lot more common
Because all of the above puts a stop to the fast paced meta comps. Well, it doesn’t put a stop to it, it just provides an answer other than “run the same comp but do it better” because that’s how it feels a lot of the time
Torbs E does too much. It does all 3 roles at once.
@@jontaii152one problem being that dive meta just instantly renders several Supports all but unplayable (unless you're significantly better than others in the lobby etc)
@@erikhendrickson59 yes that’s why dps and tank need to have picks that can counter dive and give other supports that would be otherwise unplayable, room to breathe
@@jontaii152fast comp is what’s fun not the other garbage,
“ROADHOG gets a significant buff here guys….enemy are pulled closer to reinhardt~” i had to rewind twice to make sure i heard that right. 😂
The headshot thing sounds like a problem with server ticks
no it's due to the body hotbox extending more morizontally than the head one so it hits that first
Was tryna headshot Orisa with zen from low ground, can see that working for the better
A lucio amp could pretty reliably save you from an Orisa ult before, maybe less so now.
Shot, nade, punch combo is back for ana vs tracer
So glad they buffed Mauga! He really needed that. Always a fun season when he's strong for sure!
Keep in mind that 0.1 Meters is 10 centimeters. that bullet or arrow has the diameter of 10 centimeters.
Wait you had a podcast with keemstar???? I didn’t even know you had any other media out there wow I’m blown away
Woooooopieeeeee!! I’m downloading the update now
I hear they were going to buff Moira but Freedos post scared them off
I am confused they gave higher hp pools to help with blowing up...but now everyone is getting dps buffs?!?!?!
Am i taking crazy pills?
I don't want rein's health and damage buffed. I want the goddamn recharge rate on his barrier increased. Having to stand afk around a corner for 10+ seconds waiting for your shield to come back just so you can play the game feels fucking awful. It's the worst aspect of his kit by far
Too OP there needs to be a reason to even break his shield if that’s the only thing that can be shot
@@chizzybizy3150 I hate to say it, but as someone who has played from both perspectives from DPS and even as a Rein? He has a point, Rein's kit gets melted with the heavy amount of damage dealt now alongside the buff. A decrease to the recharge rate would be beneficial for him to continue being A TANK. As he can't really hold his own anymore, especially against anti-tankers.
We are so back baby. It's REIN TIME
This has to be the fastest power creep I have ever seen
Dang Rein gets a chain hook 😂
Wait guys. So they basically gonna revery the ho changes by adding MORE damage?
Yes cause the devs are clueless on what they want
Remove pin. No scoop. No instakill. INSTEAD Use how the game is played to inform the design of the character.
Charge. No longer Grabs a target (they would get saved anyway). Pinning a target is now impossible.
For 1-2 seconds after a charge. Rein uses the collected kinetic energy (brig upgrade) to empower 1 of 3 things.
A. M1 changed reins first swing into a mini single target shatter stun. Requires crit on target. (give us something to aim for.. we want to hit the nail.)
B. M2 A small boost (minimum 100, max 500?) to sheild. For extra flair... with a cleanse(?)* to targets within the sheilds effective range (think dva matrix for a single instance)
C. This one i doubt. but what if we have not a higher damage firestrike. but what if it was a wide sweep strike (I see firestrike like a vertical swipe. I imagine a horizontal slash twice the length. but similar height.)
I think within the available power budget for how a character is provided tools for impact in a game. Giving access for 1 ability to have 3 outcomes is within the fantacy of the tactical rein hive mind. Gives us a choice to make and the ability to use that same resource to either stun, damage or defend. While also being the main source of mobility. thus maybe being wasted most of the time regardless in gameplay. I dont think every slot needs a cleanse. So im down for the sheild bump alone. Let me be DANGEROUS
alternatively make every tank have some sense of ability parody. Let me block LOS with sheild. to remove zen discord. Let me accellerate my own DPS passive cooldown timer while sheild is up
symmetra turrets having 50 health means they cant be 1 punch killed ?
Illari needs all the help she can get. I miss launch week Illari so much.
Make Mauga's survivability balanced around having good aim and reduce his spread on single fire. They really are doing everything in their power to make sure the tank who's entire kit revolves around his guns doesn't get rewarded for mechanical skill...
Rein got some love ❤️
Smaller Hanzo logs? I approve.
Ana one-shot combo is back
No pharah 3 directs for a kill and ult doing no damage isn’t an issue 😢
Buffing Torb Sym and Orisa NEVER makes the game more fun imo. I am so much happier when those characters are on the back burner. Torb and Orisa were MORE THAN FINE.
Also, who tf likes Mauga?
Idk man last patch was really fun and I've been dreading a new patch. Been liking where the game is headed overall, I have faith.
Can we please start nerfing stuff so other stuf gets stronger instead of ghis powercreap
The fact that moira still didnt get nerfed is insane
Wide matchmaking is already here. I am not kidding, I had a Silver to Diamond difference.
Yooo those projectile size nerfs weren't for Hanzo man. Zen, Mei, Echo, Kiriko? Probably missing one but yeah
Don't be ridiculous! Rally cost hasn't been "decreased", it's been *reduced*
Can you do Meta lists as the meta changes please 🙏🏾
Bro the hero bug fixes. Symmetra wasn't even applying the damage reduction before 💀 The turrets having more health than quick melee deals is gonna be such a pain now tho
She still sucks
I hate Symettra's changes especially since my teammate never destroy her teleporters or turrets
Symetra is about to be a complete menace especially in lower ranks, and increasing the turret health is gonna be so annoying for some characters
Finally some good compensation Buffs for symm. But 30dps for a DMG ability ist still hilarious
They overbuffed her turret's health. They're no longer one hit by melee since melee only does 40 damage, and many other primary fire attacks also now need 1 more hit than they previously did. The DPS of her turrets isn't the real point of them anyway, as the slow is what allows Sym comps to shut down other comps and bunker on objectives.
Increasing damage contradicts increasing health and hitbox size. If things are landing more often, just nerf the damage and do more to promote combos
They have to break the game more to justify fixing it
Good changes
You glossed over it but Virus did 110 no hack/120 Hack to now 125 no hack/150 hacked, significant buff.
this will only cause more power creep, they buffed dps on all heroes like there was no tomorrow to justify the removal of the second tank and here we are still buffing dps even more so the heroes that were left behind catch up with the more powerful ones. So much they needed to buff hp and healing on all heroes and it will keep going like that the more dps they keep adding.
I still love ow its such a fun game but overwatch 2 was a such a stepback
FINALLY buffing rein
2:00 People won't vod review to self reflect because that would require them to acknowledge their mistakes.
Why don't they give Meteor Strike a similar effect to Rein BigSlam.????? so Dmg wont be an issue and it will actually feel like an ultimate than a "im low on health and should get out".
I promise you no doom players want this shit. It’s good at what it’s used for, an escape/reposition ult
@@zoovaado7759 I understand that. and I'm not saying it's useless or anything. It's just very underwhelming compared to other tank ults.
This game just hasn’t done it for me since it switched to OW2. I miss the good ol days
Was hoping for more junkrat buffs he's still pretty bad
Gg genji mains, it was fun whilst it lasted
As a tank main, mei is not miserable to play against, you can counter every ability she has. The support that have immo, grip, platform, teleport, unlimited mobility, no risk high reward is miserable to play against.
Of all the buffs they could’ve given Orisa, I’m ok with this one. She has the one ult in the game that I think is just terrible, hopefully this will help that a bit
REINHARDT MY KING
Mei Symm Rein buffs? London meta incoming
Oh boy Mauga meta time :]
Ana needs more buffs she still just feels like shes jusy tickling both team mate and enemy alike this season, a cool down buff on sleep would be nice