Feel more confident in black and white, and sometimes it's what fits the scene better imo. In black and white, I feel like it's more about shapes and lum, and that color can be a little distracting. That said, I'm trying to do more with color these days. The amount of color (saturation) is the big question for me. It's a fine line for sure.
It would be good if they include a button that narrows the selection down automatically with one click, so your not dragging sliders everytime. great explanation, thanks
The best part of this tool is being able to use this within a mask. I've always wanted to isolate the HSL panel to local selections, but this does a fine job. So glad they did this. Thanks for the video.
Hi Mark, thanks so much for your Lightroom videos. I used to shoot a lot in the early 2000s and have recently picked up photography again. When I put the camera down around 2007 Lightroom was only just a thing. Image editing has changed a lot since then and your videos have really helped me pick it up again quickly and start having a good time with my photography. Thank you!
Nice video; however, don't you think using point color within masks would be better/faster? Especially with the new AI mask, for example, select the sky and then use the point color blue and make the changes you want.
I was having a bit of trouble getting the point color tool to work well. This video with the narrowing down the range to just the point was the ticket. This was very very helpful for me.....not sure I would have thought of this on my own. So thank you kindly.
I've been loving this color selection update. I used to do similar things by using multiple intersected masks and it only sometimes worked right. This new way isn't just less clunky, but the results are significantly better. I'm surprised more people haven't been talking about this and the curves in masks. Those are two fantastic additions.
Thank you so much for this video! I am an amateur photographer and color blind so being able to pinpoint colors will be so helpful and to help correct an issue I have been having this week.
Brilliant tips I didn't realise the additional panel was there to really target very specific colour. Thanks for the explanation. Oh and just subscribed !
Again Mark you produced another video that actually has substance. I only wish others would do the same, there is another channel I watch, like you produced content that is easy to follow and understand. I've been in photography for almost 25 yrs and as a lifetime learner your content teaches me something everytime I watch.❤
Game changer!! I was just working on some edits on some fall shots last week and was getting so frustrated because of this **exact** issue so I set it aside and now I’m excited to get back to it and finish em up! THANK YOU for showing off this tool!!!
Adobe needs to streamline this and just have this is one click versus having to go through all of the steps to just pinpoint the color I'm trying to do. This is great this works though and will be using this method thank you!
I'm still learning about this new update, but I'm sure I'm going to love it as much as this video suggests. Thanks for explaining it in a way that makes sense!
Excellent, Mark. Wow, this looks like a very powerful and usable tool. I have not done too much color adjusting in my photos up to now because I was often unsatisfied with the results. I'm looking forward to trying this out.
This is so cool! They are turning LR in a user friendly version of ps more and more! I just had this issue on a recent weekend trip where i struggled to get the colors „right“ (as i saw/felt em on location) beautifull white top mountains and fall forest beneath, but i just couldnt get it to look right and i realized the only way would be to spend a lot of time in ps (im not very skilled in ps) or use convoluted radial filters to try and get stuff right. Either the snow was too warm or forest to mushy cold… Both didnt really tickled my interest. I rarely spend hours on a picture edit. This might just do the trick tho! I need to update my lrc asap and test it out! Beside its rather hidden without your video i might not even noticed that new feature!
Thanks for this. It reinforces a video I saw earlier on the colour mixer. I was doing a test on a photo I was having trouble with the other day and LR had the worst colour and C1 pro was marginally better than DXO PL 7 I will try this again in LR and see if I can get it to the same as C1
This is great…thx for explaining! But this can also be accomplished in PS with luminosity masks, with even greater refinement. I guess for those that don’t feel comfortable with PS and luminosity masking, this is a good alternative.
Excellent Mark, I have wanted to do this sort of edit a few times in the past and always wondered why the colour mixer cannot be included in masking to achieve the same effect?
Wow! Once again, it was a great teaching moment. I appreciate how you take time to explain things in terms I can understand and at a pace that I can follow easily. I believe too many tutorials talk way too fast,which for a novice photographer like myself is frustrating to follow. You're amazing, and I look forward to more instructions.
Hi Mark Have you noticed that when you mask an area the. Masking process appears to give a green colour cast before any adjustments are made. Great video thanks
Thank you Mark. I was working on some fall foliage and was getting flustered over everything either to yellow or orange. Now I have something to work with,thank you. I do mostly color but have been trying black and white.
Excellent video Mark. Thank you for your efforts I think we all count on you to stay sharp with Lightroom (no pun intended). I do mostly color but also some B&W. Thank you again.
The color tool is fantastic, but I really wish LR would have other graphic visualizations for color as well, similar to what is used in video editing softwares such as Davinci Resolve. I've found some of those tools quite useful in color grading in video.
Thanks for this practical video. Being a darktable user I find that you see less of this kind of video for paid tools. On the other hand, i think darktable's drawn¶metric masks have offered this sort of control for a long time, albeit maybe in a package not so accessible to a lot of people
Thank you for showing the capability to really zero in on the color. I just watched did the 5-day Photoshop Summit, and I didn't see anyone demonstrate that capability. Admittedly, I didn't watch all the videos, so maybe someone did... I tried editing an image in Camera Raw and was using the color picker. It was a woodland image, and I was attempting to pick a tree trunk, and it said the color was too dark to pick. It was light enough that I could see the varying texture of the bark. I did not try it in Lightroom. Have you experienced this, with all the woodland images you take? Do you know a way around it?
Thanks Mark. Do you think the difference between LR and CO is less, with the new LR tools ? For landscape photography do you still prefer CO? The latest update of CO with the AI masks is very promising as it was an advantage that LR had over CO.
Thank you for this information. You made this very clear to me. Lightroom is adding features faster than I can learn them. I'm still not up to speed on add, subtract, intersect of masks.
seems like the transitions will be harsh with this technique. Just drop a gradient mask on the corner and then use the saturation slider in the color picker.
Not to sound redundent, but captureone has always been able to do this, but you can also feather it better. I'm not seeing where, or how this is top of the game. Maybe in landscapes, it is useful, but in food and skin tones, it's still a half dozen steps behind captureone in colour management.
Fair enough, but most people watching this channel are likely landscape photographers, as it is dedicated to that subject. Also, I don’t recall him saying it was top of the game, and in fact said it was catching up to Capture One and “maybe” improving on it, which (depending on how you use it) is an argument that could be made.
@@JesusChrist-xb7jq 10:37 "It puts lightroom colour control at the top of the game." One can have their opinions, but when your opinion is being streamed it needs to have a impartial fact driven angle. Lightroom is objectively not top of the game. Lightroom doesn't do anything until someone else does it first. Its a hard piece of software to justify a subscription for. Thats not an attack on the author. He seems pleasantly happily with the new updates, that said..these updates have been standard for most ediotrs for over 6-7 years now.
Mark thanks for the video great new feature, question when I use lightroom and adjust the colors as close to the round indicator when I move the ranges in LR the circle indicator disappears so I cannot adjust it accurately, in LRC it works perfect, any idea why the circle indicator disappeared in LR when I adjust the Ranges ?
Absolutely stellar review, Mark! The Point Color Tool seems like a game changer for nuanced edits. Have you found it affects the workflow speed significantly for professional editing? Thanks for the thorough insight!
Wow, Adobe, yes Adobe of all developers, finally figured out how to target a color or a narrow color range. Phenomenal. 😏 Way more than overdue for a RAW editor.
✅QUICK QUESTION: Do you process mostly in color or black & white?
The colors, Duke, the colorsssss!!!
Black and white at first to get the contrast right. Then I switch to color and adjust accordingly.
color
Color
Feel more confident in black and white, and sometimes it's what fits the scene better imo. In black and white, I feel like it's more about shapes and lum, and that color can be a little distracting. That said, I'm trying to do more with color these days. The amount of color (saturation) is the big question for me. It's a fine line for sure.
It would be good if they include a button that narrows the selection down automatically with one click, so your not dragging sliders everytime. great explanation, thanks
Finally!!!! Someone who can demonstrate this function perfectly!!! Thank you Mark!!!
Awesome to hear - thank ya!
The best part of this tool is being able to use this within a mask. I've always wanted to isolate the HSL panel to local selections, but this does a fine job. So glad they did this. Thanks for the video.
100% agree!
Thank you Mark I watched this video months ago and couldn’t remember how to use this tool. Glad I was able to find the video and rewatch.
Hi Mark, thanks so much for your Lightroom videos. I used to shoot a lot in the early 2000s and have recently picked up photography again. When I put the camera down around 2007 Lightroom was only just a thing. Image editing has changed a lot since then and your videos have really helped me pick it up again quickly and start having a good time with my photography. Thank you!
Nice video; however, don't you think using point color within masks would be better/faster? Especially with the new AI mask, for example, select the sky and then use the point color blue and make the changes you want.
I was having a bit of trouble getting the point color tool to work well. This video with the narrowing down the range to just the point was the ticket. This was very very helpful for me.....not sure I would have thought of this on my own. So thank you kindly.
Mark, you have become my Go To guy for Lightroom enhancements. Your explanations are clear and helpful so I can easily apply the tool to my projects.
I've been loving this color selection update. I used to do similar things by using multiple intersected masks and it only sometimes worked right. This new way isn't just less clunky, but the results are significantly better. I'm surprised more people haven't been talking about this and the curves in masks. Those are two fantastic additions.
Thanks Mark, I've not dived into it but after watching your video I'm excited to check out this new feature!
Thank you for helping me understand this new Lr tool. I've been trying to figure it out. 👌🏽👌🏽
Glad to do it!
Color. Always. Until now, when you've asked the question and I've read some of the responses. I'll now start using a bit of B&W work in my processing.
Thank you so much for this video! I am an amateur photographer and color blind so being able to pinpoint colors will be so helpful and to help correct an issue I have been having this week.
Thanks for the clear and concise explanation Mark. I was a little confused on how to use this tool but this video has made it make sense.
Great to hear the video was helpful!
Yet another easy-to-follow and absorb example of excellent training!
Brilliant tips I didn't realise the additional panel was there to really target very specific colour. Thanks for the explanation. Oh and just subscribed !
Excellent demonstration of this great new tool. Thanks!
🤗 Yet another easy-to-follow and absorb example of excellent training!
Again Mark you produced another video that actually has substance. I only wish others would do the same, there is another channel I watch, like you produced content that is easy to follow and understand. I've been in photography for almost 25 yrs and as a lifetime learner your content teaches me something everytime I watch.❤
Thanks Mark. Once again a clear and easy explanation of a process. How about tackling the new HDR feature soon?
100X better! Thank you so much for sharing and teaching
Game changer!! I was just working on some edits on some fall shots last week and was getting so frustrated because of this **exact** issue so I set it aside and now I’m excited to get back to it and finish em up! THANK YOU for showing off this tool!!!
Game changer is the perfect description!
Thanks, Mark. I've been using the mixer tool but not point colour because I didn't know how. Thanks for explaining it!
Great explanation, wasn’t sure how to isolate individual colors. Thanks
Very useful, Mark. I wanted to do that yesterday, but was not able. 😊 thank you
fantastic demo... you just blew my mind. Thanks!!
Great demo! I hadn't used this tool much, but now I know I need to get started. Thanks for posting!
Thanks for checking it out Bruce!
Thanks Mark. This was very well explained. It's a feature that I will use often, no that I understand some of the nuances.
Very helpful, and as luck would have it, a very timely video Mark - many thanks, much appreciated.
Thanks--great info on this new tool! Great to know that you can use it within masks as well as for global edits.
This is awesome! Did not realize how powerful this can be.
Adobe needs to streamline this and just have this is one click versus having to go through all of the steps to just pinpoint the color I'm trying to do. This is great this works though and will be using this method thank you!
Point Color with Mask is a game changer. Thanks!
Thank you Mark for the detailed simple explanation.
Nice demo of the new feature, thanks!
I'm still learning about this new update, but I'm sure I'm going to love it as much as this video suggests. Thanks for explaining it in a way that makes sense!
Thanks for checking it out!
Excellent, Mark. Wow, this looks like a very powerful and usable tool. I have not done too much color adjusting in my photos up to now because I was often unsatisfied with the results. I'm looking forward to trying this out.
Lightbulb moment, been struggling with the same problems. Thoroughly enjoy your videos have learned so much. Many thanks 👍👍
Awesome to hear!
Thank Mark! Very helpful. I was playing with this last night wondering how to apply it.
Glad to do it Troy!
another clear and concise explanation - many thanks!
This is so cool! They are turning LR in a user friendly version of ps more and more!
I just had this issue on a recent weekend trip where i struggled to get the colors „right“ (as i saw/felt em on location) beautifull white top mountains and fall forest beneath, but i just couldnt get it to look right and i realized the only way would be to spend a lot of time in ps (im not very skilled in ps) or use convoluted radial filters to try and get stuff right. Either the snow was too warm or forest to mushy cold… Both didnt really tickled my interest. I rarely spend hours on a picture edit. This might just do the trick tho! I need to update my lrc asap and test it out! Beside its rather hidden without your video i might not even noticed that new feature!
Thank You Mark you have explained that very well. I was wondering how to fine tune my selection. Keep up the great work. Mike, Northern Ireland 👌🍻
This is incredible, Mark! I’ve learned so much from your videos! Seriously, thanks a million!!
Great to hear Todd!
What an eye opener! This was an awesome tutorial on using this new tool to its best advantage. Thanks!!
Thanks so much!
thank you so much for excellent class . very well explained
Thanks, Mark. I've been exploring this new tool, but your demonstration and clear explanation has really opened up its full range of possibilities.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Great explanation! (I’d say cloning is where Lightroom is most behind though.)
Thanks for this. It reinforces a video I saw earlier on the colour mixer. I was doing a test on a photo I was having trouble with the other day and LR had the worst colour and C1 pro was marginally better than DXO PL 7 I will try this again in LR and see if I can get it to the same as C1
This is great…thx for explaining! But this can also be accomplished in PS with luminosity masks, with even greater refinement. I guess for those that don’t feel comfortable with PS and luminosity masking, this is a good alternative.
I’m here for it!
Simply Amazing!! Thanks for this tutorial!
Thanks so much!
Excellent Mark, I have wanted to do this sort of edit a few times in the past and always wondered why the colour mixer cannot be included in masking to achieve the same effect?
Your best LR video yet! Thanks!
Magistrale démonstration, très utile, merci
You explained this perfectly Thank you!!!!!
Wow! Once again, it was a great teaching moment. I appreciate how you take time to explain things in terms I can understand and at a pace that I can follow easily. I believe too many tutorials talk way too fast,which for a novice photographer like myself is frustrating to follow.
You're amazing, and I look forward to more instructions.
Thanks so much - really appreciate it!
Hi Mark Have you noticed that when you mask an area the. Masking process appears to give a green colour cast before any adjustments are made. Great video thanks
Love that tool! I am such a B&W geek as soon as you hit 'visual range' I would have been on a tangent! :D
Thank you Mark. I was working on some fall foliage and was getting flustered over everything either to yellow or orange. Now I have something to work with,thank you.
I do mostly color but have been trying black and white.
Glad to do it Kathy!
Excellent video Mark. Thank you for your efforts I think we all count on you to stay sharp with Lightroom (no pun intended). I do mostly color but also some B&W. Thank you again.
Thanks Mark, Although I loved the tool I kept struggling a bit. Your explanation helped turn on the light bulbs.
Awesome to hear!
This is awesome! Thanks for sharing! 🤓
I like this new tool! I hope that you do more videos like this showcasing the tool.
Glad you liked it!
This was very helpful, thank you!
The color tool is fantastic, but I really wish LR would have other graphic visualizations for color as well, similar to what is used in video editing softwares such as Davinci Resolve. I've found some of those tools quite useful in color grading in video.
Thank you Mark, that’s a game changer for me 🙌🏻
Wow-- such good information here-- will have to try
Very helpful! Thanks for this lesson!
Happy to do it Randy!
This is a great explanation of this new tool. Thanks, Mark.
Glad you enjoyed it Bob!
That’s awesome, Mark! Thanks for demonstrating it.
Happy to do it!
Thank you Mark. I learned something very valuable today.
Glad to hear it!
👏🏻 thanks for sharing knowledge
Thanks for this practical video. Being a darktable user I find that you see less of this kind of video for paid tools. On the other hand, i think darktable's drawn¶metric masks have offered this sort of control for a long time, albeit maybe in a package not so accessible to a lot of people
Thanks so much Mark. Had no idea what this was and now I know...
Glad to do it!
Nicely done Mark
Thank you for showing the capability to really zero in on the color. I just watched did the 5-day Photoshop Summit, and I didn't see anyone demonstrate that capability. Admittedly, I didn't watch all the videos, so maybe someone did...
I tried editing an image in Camera Raw and was using the color picker. It was a woodland image, and I was attempting to pick a tree trunk, and it said the color was too dark to pick. It was light enough that I could see the varying texture of the bark. I did not try it in Lightroom. Have you experienced this, with all the woodland images you take? Do you know a way around it?
I have so much to learn, thanks for the tips
Love to hear it James!
Thanks, Mark, nice tip!
Great video, Mark. Game changer for sure
Thanks a million!
Thanks Mark. Do you think the difference between LR and CO is less, with the new LR tools ? For landscape photography do you still prefer CO? The latest update of CO with the AI masks is very promising as it was an advantage that LR had over CO.
Amazingly helpful.
Thank you for this information. You made this very clear to me. Lightroom is adding features faster than I can learn them. I'm still not up to speed on add, subtract, intersect of masks.
They've had a big couple of years!
seems like the transitions will be harsh with this technique. Just drop a gradient mask on the corner and then use the saturation slider in the color picker.
How different is this functionality from the advanced colour editor in CaptureOne?
Best explanation ever.
Very informative. Thank you.
Thanks Greg!
Thanks Mark!!
Not to sound redundent, but captureone has always been able to do this, but you can also feather it better. I'm not seeing where, or how this is top of the game. Maybe in landscapes, it is useful, but in food and skin tones, it's still a half dozen steps behind captureone in colour management.
Fair enough, but most people watching this channel are likely landscape photographers, as it is dedicated to that subject. Also, I don’t recall him saying it was top of the game, and in fact said it was catching up to Capture One and “maybe” improving on it, which (depending on how you use it) is an argument that could be made.
Still help for grading, especially outdoor portraite
@@JesusChrist-xb7jq 10:37 "It puts lightroom colour control at the top of the game." One can have their opinions, but when your opinion is being streamed it needs to have a impartial fact driven angle. Lightroom is objectively not top of the game. Lightroom doesn't do anything until someone else does it first. Its a hard piece of software to justify a subscription for. Thats not an attack on the author. He seems pleasantly happily with the new updates, that said..these updates have been standard for most ediotrs for over 6-7 years now.
agree. And capture one can even create a mask out of the colour selection.
Photoshop has always had this feature. Lightroom is honestly a really basic editor.
Excellent video. And a game changer!
Thanks Richard!
Finally!!! Thank you
Mark thanks for the video great new feature, question when I use lightroom and adjust the colors as close to the round indicator when I move the ranges in LR the circle indicator disappears so I cannot adjust it accurately, in LRC it works perfect, any idea why the circle indicator disappeared in LR when I adjust the Ranges ?
I have the same issue :/ did you find a solution for LR?
@@nikelover94 I'm sorry I haven't found a solution yet I may try to reach out to Adobe if I hear anything I'll definitely post it thank you
So thankful for this great information! Is there any way to accomplish this on the mobile app? I often edit with my tablet so this would be great.
I don't believe it can be done in mobile
@@MarkDenneyPhotoI figured as much but I hoped I had missed something. Thank you for taking the time to respond.
Absolutely stellar review, Mark! The Point Color Tool seems like a game changer for nuanced edits. Have you found it affects the workflow speed significantly for professional editing? Thanks for the thorough insight!
Great video thanks
Great tutorial - thank you 👌
Thanks Kevin!
Ok, back to redo my fall foliage photos 🤓
🤣
Brilliant Thank you
Wow, Adobe, yes Adobe of all developers, finally figured out how to target a color or a narrow color range. Phenomenal. 😏 Way more than overdue for a RAW editor.
I'm not absolutely sure but didn't DxoPhotoLab figured it out too?
edit. Yes they did. They call it Local HSL
Really, amazing❤