Ferrari 458 vs Ferrari 430 | Top Gear | BBC
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- Jeremy borrows James' Ferrari 430 for a drag race against the new £170,000 Ferrari 458. But how will the 458 handle round the track with the Stig behind the wheel?
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The 458 has aged absolutely beautifully. If it was released today, no one would be sad.
8 years later and i still want one.
@@Biconnecc and Dr Gray,
We are all astute. I hope that you are also both watchers of - The Car Guys - who are two English gents who have a garage full of modern Ferrari's.
458 and 458 Italia - are the last of the normally aspirated, non turbo engines. As The Car Guys say, the 458 will absolutely skyrocket in value due to its engine and as of today bring the 31st of September, 2019 the hybrid SF-90 Stradale being the stock V8 Ferrari.
A Ferrari w i th an e l ectric hybrid motor.
9y later, still saving for 1
I still wouldn't care if it ate one of my legs
style 🇮🇹 unique
character
Ferrari è oltre 🏆🇮🇹
8 yrs later, the 458 is still such a sexy lunatic
The best Ferrari a normal person could hope to buy.
I'm ironically looking at a 2006 430 14k mi. This particular dealer offers maintenance and repair packages.
@@tingokuman for 85-90 k the 430 is a great car.
tingokuman you’re rich man then
You got that right Pranay! 488 sucks in comparison.
I saw this clip when i was in 8th grade and it started my obsession with cars. 9 years later and im starting my dream job as a car designer. Thank you top gear.
Really cool. At what company?
It's only been out for 8years tho...
wow that's what i want to do later...
Nice math
Wow
Its been 6 years and i still want one.
+Emyr Ilhan it's been 30 years and i still want a white testarossa
+Emyr Ilhan well, I don't really blame ya....the 488 is not that different anyway.
+pdbre exactly
+pdbre sorry but since it's out of production I still want one
Get an AMC Gremlin has more appeal than this money pit
No wonder the 430 lost it had all the extra weight from the chocolate smudge Jeremy put on the window
lol
Airdrag
and dont forget the wrapper
😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂
How was this car released in 2009 and still looks phenomenal by 2021 standards
it doesn’t help that the 488 and F8 are basically just a 458 with different vents and bumpers ascetically, yet they don’t look as good as the 458.
@@devandrasimanjuntak1646 they basically achieved perfection and were unable to top it
@@lolickypeepee23xdd6same can be said with Lexus
@@devandrasimanjuntak1646They're both a little chunkier than the 458, which still just looks so lean and sleek years later.
@@devandrasimanjuntak1646 this is also why pininfarina had the downfall with ferrari the exact same thing happened to 360 and 430 and they couldnt find a good design that wasnt a firehouse so they demanded to ferrari to change the engine cooling system to a more efficient one
4.5L V8 revving to 9K, that's the beauty of a flat plane crankshaft
Meanwhile the LaF revs to 9250 rpm with a 6.3 V12 motor...Ferrari really knows how to design awesome engines.
Ford: made the mustang sound like it’s roaring
Dear lord the GT350 sounds amazing, I think it sounds better than the 458
@@Ob1tuber the elegance of a 458 revving makes my eyes watery every time I hear it. Any Ferrari engine revving makes me watery everywhere. Its elegant, loud, vibrant .... it feels like it has a soul.
The gt350 its nice, but its just a loud roar.... nothing special.
@@lukarancini1630 Yep, it has a soul. The gt350 is nothing, lol. I did not get the fuss about Ferrari's honestly till about 6 years ago when I saw this then I realised ''oh,,, *that's* a Ferrari!''
4.8L V10, 9.5k rpm, 72 degree bank angle, best sounding engine
This car is 10 years old know, released in 2009. unbelievable how fast time is going
it feels like yesterday this episode aired. it’s been 11 years!
Still a beautiful car today
@@Alex-mp5xe Without any doubt
I still have a HUGE soft spot for the 430, but the 458 is simply superb.
Agreed.
+King Bobo Spook performance though, man.
+turbofanlover My soft spot is for F355.
+spavatch Oh man! I feel you. The 355 is by far the most beautiful Ferrari ever made. In my opinion.
I still prefer the 458, even with the newer 488 already exists for a while
And then James May buys one
Will James and then the 458 Speciale
67claudius Id take a standard 458 over a Speciale, its better for the road which is where you will spend 99% of your time.
Will James I agree with you, James May bought the 458 Speciale.
www.driving.co.uk/news/james-may-orders-the-last-ferrari-458-speciale/
67claudius I didn't know that, he already owns a yellow 458 so I cant say I'm surprised
Will James 99.9%
Never seen Clarkson so genuinely amazed and astonished by a car as during this review.
My favorite Ferrari by far
@@lllll8449 mine is the 488
@@marantamil459 Mine the 365 Daytona
exactly
B4 the LFA
The 458 will go down as a future classic, it's absolutely amazing!!!! :)
I hate to bring up an American top gear moment but Rutledge Wood said the 458 was an instant classic the moment it was released.
@Ken Norcott Actually I kind of agree, because the 488 exists which on paper at least, it's better in every single way (still prefer the 458 though), so the 458 simply became the previous model, the outdated one, just like the F430 (which admittedly is great used value these days) to the general public at least.
StarShape i feel the 488 is more a 458 2.0 than a whole new car. Idk looks to similar and the interior is the same. Much the the mp4 12c and the 650s
They burn because of the adhesive used. So they won't survive long enough.
Last n/a Ferrari V8
4:44 This is one of the most impeccable tracking shots I've ever seen from a drone.
Believe it’s an actual helicopter
It was from a heli. Drones werent used back then yet
It’s a helicopter and it’s not even that good
Jesus, I miss this show so damn much.
Patrick Todd Grand Tour on Amazon Prime. Its even better than the old. Much larger budget, go anywhere and do anything
@@Stammerjohan95 sorry to say but their getting too old for their shenanigans apparently this last season of tgt will be the last they do all the crazy stunts and crew challenges from then on its all about showcasing the car with good scenery
It's still on
Don't start a praying about it
"It sounds like a bear. A BURNING bear"
I think he was actually speechless there
"It really is absolutely, unbelievably, mesmerisingly brilliant"
You can keep your Veyron, give me a 458 Italia anyday. Its actually usable on the track and looks awesome, plus with that amazing Ferrari sound
And it is quite reliable.
i luv the 458........but i luv the Lamborghini huracan more
Tim Young I would most definitely take a 458 over a veyron!!
Yeah the veyron is ugly
try AC 458 S3, amazing though:th-cam.com/video/2YCX-afPKJ8/w-d-xo.html
"You ate a chocolate bar in my car"
That's the best feature of that car now; 1 of them comes with pre-installed chocolate wrappings and remnant flakes
You can see James twitching with contempt for that orangutan
Dan Phillips “Doesn’t matter. You can’t drive it any more.”
I wouldn’t have trusted him from the beginning
"CLARKSON!"
The 458 is definitely one of Ferrari's halo cars
6:15 White Obama
That had me dying
.
holy shit hahaha
Lmao
Where??? I cant see it
I love how this era of cars has aged so well…
Absolutely. The SLS, this, 12C, all those cars were my childhood. The feeling I get when I watch any review of these cars it gives me chills because of how absolutely amazing they are.
Starting from 2:58 to 5:08, this is one of Top Gear's best productions ever.. its 2018 and I still watch it..!
"It sounds like a bear! A burning bear!" 😂😂😂😂man I love Jeremy and his metaphors
I drove a 458 not too long ago, I was 17 at the time. It was my first time sitting in a Ferrari let alone driving one. At the time the only other car I had drive was a fiat 500 and I’ll never forget the shock I felt when I started it and heard this roar behind me.
This was my very first dream car. 10 years later, it still looks achingly beautiful. A Future classic? Absolutely.
the speciale is already a classic
my favorite review...so much emotion...
430. 1 month 22 days and 9 hours compared to the 458 1 minute 19
EXAAAAACTLY MY BRO..!!!
actually the 458 can't compare in gt series…the 430 gt2 is far superior
Yep this car really did become a all time great probably the greatest Ferrari ever besides the la ferrari
Stone Cold 458 is the last great ferrari
It's gonna be hard for LeBlanc or Harris to make a review as energetic and hyped as this, I won't complain if they do though.
Looks like you'll be complaining then, because they won't.
+George Morley I mean probably but still no point in not hoping
Harris doesn't make emotional reviews? Maybe you want to check the one he did on the F40 and F50 then.
CockatooDude seen it
CockatooDude yep that one really is very emotional but still I don't think they can reach Clarkson's best level! After seeing the Zonda R and the P1 I don't think anything can become that good
The F430 is a modern classic now and the prices are skyrocketing.
osamaFXX because you can get it with a manual
Oh come on I wanted it to be a budget Ferrari, I wanted the 458 to appreciate but not the 430 but hey there is still the 360
@@Ob1tuber I think the 360 is more elegant and somewhat better looking than the 430, but I think the 430 is better engineered than the 360, still, the clear winner here is the 458...
Hahahahahaha
458 is so much better looking
458 looks better in person, my friend has it in white, I have driven it many times....visually it's just about the best looking sportscar ever
of course this is the best car in the world can't wait to buy this :D
Super car. Not sports
nugrohodendy4
Is there even a clear difference in definition between a sports car, a super care and a hyper car?
fcastle It already looks good on screen and in pictures, and it still looks better in person?
One of the prettiest cars of the 2000s, along with the DB9
. The Zonda and Aventador are more what I'd call hot
Agreed.
Carrera GT
Couldn't have put it better myself
The F430 and 458 are like classy women in cute red dresses
The Zonda is a bad chick in short shorts and a skimpy top who has tattoos and wears black leather heeled boots.
Zonda is a disgusting abomination. And a car can never be male, like all vehicles, guns, ships, and so on they are always female. So pretty or good looking or other gender neutral terms. Or even sexy. Are fine but calling a car hot doesn't sound quite right to me. Anyway id say porsches are the best looking cars regardless
@@jacobbahr9316 The one is for an one night stand, the other two are for your whole life. That's what you just said 😂
8 years on and the 458 is still such a beauty
When i heard that the 488 was to replace the 458 and it would not have a N/A V8 it genuinely brought me to tears. There will never be a replacement for this car. It was balls out, beautiful, and truly beautiful
This reminds me 458 Speciales Side slide angle stability control. Is kind of a stability control that allows the car to drift until it reach a certain angle then traction control kicks in to increase turn out acceleration. Brilliant idea!
13 years later, and it still looks modern and timeless
The editing, music, and presentation are simply top notch. At 3:00 and onward, his emotion is genuine and you can feel the energy and charisma. This is why the show is loved by both motor-enthusiasts and people who honestly couldn't care less about cars; it just drags you in with its enthusiasm.
Any idea what that music at 3:00 is?
@@captainnope747 The Chemical Brothers - Dissolve
james buys the f430 458 comes out. buys the 458 488 comes out hahahaha
To be fair to James, he bought the very last 458 speciale, which as of now are valued much higher than the 488.
@@CockatooDude He called Ferrari to buy a 458 speciale they said it was sold out.....but nevertheless ferrari made just one more just for him
@@wwethemes2341 Pretty crazy right? It was cool of Ferrari to do that for him.
He has a speciale, a fantastic car.
On an old TopGear magazine in 2008 or so i once read a column of James May who was very annoyed about car makers bringing out newer improved versions too soon and in too short periods of time instead of making them perfect immediatly
6:00 “You ate a chocolate bar... in. My. Car.” (Eyes twitching)
This video has some of the best editing I've ever seen. Amazing work.
this whole review is just incredible. The music, the editing, clarkson's enthusiasm... I mean it pumps you up like hell!
i like the porche better, but this is by far my favorite top gear video. The way the 458 was shot to be an absolute beauty (which it of course is), its driving capacities, the music, the pure joy of clarkson as he drives the car is combined beautifully
458 is the best Ferrari ever made... imo
Have u seen a laferrari, FXX K, or a 488? If you havent it might be a bit of a surprise
+Kim Jong Un that's where you are wrong, I've been driven in a laferrari, the FXX K is the same, they are both hybrids, the 488 is turbocharged so that's out of the discussion! Best Ferrari: V8: 458 V12: F12 both naturally aspirated, both great.
+Kim Jong Un all of which being newer than the 458.
+Jack Björkqvist i totally agree with you
+Alex Gærtner Totally. Hey, have you seen the 458 Spider owned by Deadmau5? I heard he had to get rid of the Purrari paintjob at the request of Ferrari.
3:10 What a glorious shot! I never tire of watching it. I still remember how I was blown away by this review when I first watched it in the middle of 2010. Can’t believe it was 11 years ago now!
It’s been 8 years and I still want one
This is when top gear was good.
When it was EPIC. Now it's still good, just not EPIC
Fantastic the 458 Italia!!!
Motor: V8
Top speed: 325 km/h
Aceleration 0 - 100 km/h: 3,4 sec.
Power: 562 bhp
nowadays, we have family SUV's & pickup trucks that can go much faster than that lol. But tbf they're a lot heavier and likely less fun to throw around corners. Plus, 500-600 hp is realistically all you need in a supercar to go blisteringly fast
any1 notice 0:27 and 0:44 plates are different?
cheers :)
+TobyIsHere So it wasn't James' actual car after all
did u honestly expect it to be?
Yur good
cheers david
it's a great car the 458 but I'd still have the 430 scuderia it's just perfect
Dean Hollyoak Make that a Scuderia 16M spider.
Dean Hollyoak I'll take the F40 (not for daily driving though, but overall I would prefer to drive an F40 over any other Ferrari)
F430 Scuderia is the best modern ferrari i think (after 2000) followed by 458 and enzo.
I agree, I think it's nicer looking. They're both good looking, but the f458 has a pinched, duck-beaky front end by comparison, and it's just not as elegant from that angle. It has a nicer back end than the f430, but overall the f430 is just more beautiful.
Have to agree with you, I'd rather have a 430 Scuderia too, there's something in the look of the 458 and the Speciale that seems just odd and inelegant. Don't care about being a little bit slower than 458 anyway
I shed real tears when I saw this on TV for the first time.
The Ferarri 'La Ferrari' is five times the price of the Ferarri 458. I can't get my head around that. 'La Ferarri' is a hell of a car, but not five times better than the 458. Really!
Its rarer
5 times rarer, faster, betting looking, better sounding, better handling
ajwasp that's not how money works.
Colds three times better perhaps....where do you get the last two parts from?
ajwasp Its true though, thats not how money works, if something is 5 times more expensive that does not make it 5 times better.
One of the greatest supercars ever made
2021 and I still want one
I ve watched this review every year since it was aired ... it’s fantastic ... these three fellas were just pure fun . The golden era of Top Gear
this is probably the best track test they've made, editing and everything was pretty much perfect.
From 3:00 til about 5:00 min, just pure passion! I love that part!
Was my all time favourite Ferrari. The last non-turbo V8 in their mid-engine cars…
And now I have driven one.
And now I want one a LOT.
15 years later and I still want one
This was by far...... The best top gear review of all times ... I don't get tired of seeing over and over again ... So sad now top gear is gone but for all of us they left us quite good memories
It’s been 8 years - and there’s no beating the 458 🔥
Except the laferrari
Probably the best Top Gear car review. Simply iconic.
Finally got one lads, thanks for keeping my dream alive Jeremy. Came to write it here the day I got it. 4 days and she'll be in my garage.
6 1/2 years later, i still need one in my life
Got it yet mate?
Got it now?!?
Jeremy has one of the best jobs in the world. Next to Anthony Bourdain.
had*
urbanmonkey2145 :(
***** Not just being a chef, going through all the world, tasting different foods, getting drunk on strange drinks, and meanwhile getting money enough to buy some supercars. Yes I think that is the best work in the world
Hasnt this post dated.
And no i never envied that blue pill simp.
Big oof
I remember this like yesterday:(, time does go so quickly
I remember when the 458 came out and the first time I got to experience one in person. Still one of the most fantastic cars ever made.
The 458 has such a timeless design. It never ages.
9 years later...this car never gets old
Beast
This interview convinced me to buy a red one 😊. Phenomenal Machine!
This was the best review ever, so much passion and emotion.
"The engine sounds like a bear...A burning bear". hahahaah
458, the best NA V8 Ferrari ever created, also the last NA V8 mid engine Ferrari.
This is when too gear was at its best. Very simple and unique. Jeremy is top gear
definitely one of the best tack tests top gear has done
I dont care if it ate one of my legs...A true sacrificer,hands down.
Well then you wouldn't be able to drive.
correct
+Paawan Sagar hands down lol......
+Simon TH-cam yes you can
+Simon TH-cam Its not manual so you only need one leg
1. The 458 is better than the Veyron
2. The 458 does not have a silly name.
3. The 458 is worth the price
4. The 458 sounds great.
5. The 458 is better than the 430
6. The lights are cool on the Italia. They aren't hideous.
7. 458 Drooling time.
Robert Papageorge But not better than a porsche xD
better than a 488 actually
Robert Papageorge It looks like a rabbit
Better then any porsche, they are just smashed VW-cars with poor sounds and cheap atmosphere
The 458 doesn't have a silly name? It doesn't have a name at all; it's just identified by some numbers, which is typical Ferrari being overly clinical with their cars.
Every now and then I must come back and watch this video. Addictive and gives me chills looking at it and hearing it. What a car.
Clarkson not being able to hold his enthusiasm gives me goosebumps every time I watch
A like for the awesome editing team, and scene editors.
i saw the 458 speciale at the ferrari museum in maranello and it's even better!!!that's an incredible car!
458 is the best looking car ever
Lewis Taylor Spider version is even better
definitely beats the 488
Lewis Taylor Mclaren 570s looks heaps better.faster cheaper 😂
+Morgan Mclarenwood no it doses not 😂😂 all Mclarens look the same at the front, no major differences at all. The all have the same P1 front.
The 570s isn't ugly but the 458 looks so much better. I love both cars but I'd choose the Ferrari
This era of top gear is the best in car review history. Top notch informative and entertaining
I remember when this episode originally aired it gave me goosebumps. I love this car and the old top gear !
It's OVER NINETHOUSENDS!!!!!!!!!
adrian 9000??!!
There's no way that can be right!
Isaac Olarewaju he means rpm i think
imHziq4real
hes quoting nappa
Blue Comet No, he's quoting Vegeta, Nappa had broken his thingie
*****
vegeta says its over 9000 and nappa replies in shock
1:42 He’s looking at the wrong screen 😂
Every time I watch this video (which is a lot) I always get goosebumps at 3:00 and turn the volume waaay up.. This review is just so god damn excellent.I hope they will still do car reviews on The Grand Tour.
1:38 “I have no idea how fast I’m going now” it literally says in the bottom left
10 years later but still the best V8 Ferrari ever made.
I love how excited he gets when he drives this thing.
2021 still the best review off a car ever pure passion watched this about 300 times
So James' car at 0:01 is YN55 NEO ... the one the Stig gets into at 0:44 is RX55 FTZ. Strange?!
no, when the race begins the plate is YN55 NEO as they're accelerating
Fabio da costa Yes I noticed that. I reckon the NEO plate is the false one ... it looks like it was just made ... whereas the FTZ looks older and is probably James's real number, which they let slip at that one moment at 0.44. That's my take on it anyway :-)
Mehh who knows but I read in the lower comments somewhere on where as James made a mistake, people were saying that but now I doubt it because the plate is at the front and back and its a different color so he couldn't have made a mistake but who knows they might of just switched the plates and not the car but who knows
Fabio da costa If I remember correct James also had a convertable not a hard top
yea, you're actually correct. Therefore I'm not sure why the changed the plates.
It doesn’t matter if you’re watching this in 2023 or even 3023, the 458 is a literal artist’s masterpiece in car form
Anyone else get chills when the music builds before that first drift even though we've all seen it a thousand times?!? 🤣
I remember watching this on tv before couple of years
Made me cry. Long live N/A engines and long live Jeremy clarkson
The United States is still doing N/A V8’s, at least on base models, and they still have the power and soul, and the sound
If the 458 was released today it would stil look like one of the most beautiful cars ever, how can you compare such an incredible car to all the electric stuff companies are pushing now…
i watched this video so many times, i know it line by line. this was the peak of car shows.
9 years and still one of my favourite car reviews, ever!
Best moments:
1:24 nine thousen!!!
3:18 This is incredible!!!
3:59 AAAAAAHHHHHH what's a maaaaaachiiineeeeee!!!!!
4:13 Listen to that noise, it's like a bear... A BURNING BEAR!!!!!
5:52 James: Are you quite finished?
Jeremy: No you are.
God I miss the Top Gear so much.
I love this clip. One of the best reviews they have ever done.
Anyone noticed the difference in license plates from the first few scenes of the silver F430? 0:01 and 0:44