The return of Palpatine actually makes sense considering Star Wars Canon history and the powers that Darth Sidious has compared to older Siths, when you consider Sith Alchemy, Essence transfer and Immortality, it makes perfect sense that he would be able to return. It could just have been done a lot better and it does clash somehow with the Chosen One prophecy (which I have a problem with in the first place anyway as getting rid of the dark side entirely is not bringing balance and is not realistic, so it is either a false prophecy or its true meaning was misunderstood).
@@YAZlakhdar It doesn't matter if it makes sense in some weird way like "muh but he has that kind of power". It completely destroys the entire point of the ENTIRE series.
@@YAZlakhdar Getting rid of the Sith is bringing balance, that's literally George Lucas' definition. The Sith and the use of the Dark Side to gain power is the imbalance. That's how Light, Dark, and the Force work in this universe What i understand is that Palpatine wanted a strong force user to transfer his essence into from the very beginning, that's why he made Luke and Vader fight, it was a win/win situation for him. But he didn't expect Luke resisting the Dark Side and Vader redeeming himself and this was his undoing, also blowing up twice. in space. There was literally nobody around for him to transfer into, and that's why him returning is not only stupid, but completely disrespectful to the source material and the viewer's intelligence and their understanding of cause and effect.
@@fio_lume it seems the main idea of movies using force for destruction is moving world to imbalance state, and using force for sustaining the world is making world balanced.
All the wars fought by hundreds of extremely powerful Sith and Jedi with real Dark v Light battles makes the Clone Wars and Galactic wars seem like a small dodgeball game. Being a powerful Jedi never mattered at that time. If there was only a small village of humans left, and they were fighting wars with nearby anthills it wouldn’t matter who the stronger human was because the enemy is crushed just as easily. Humans v ants are Jedi v Soldiers/battle droids. And making Anakin the “Chosen One” at that time, like bruh does it really matter? Not really because the Sith have pretty much been wiped out already. What’s killing one or two more? There were *zero* Sith at one point in time way after the Sith Empire was destroyed and people found their old knowledge. It’s gonna happen again at some point or another. Anakin killing himself then Palpatine is a footnote compared to Vitiate/Valkorian, Revan, Malgus, Nihilus, Hero of Tython, Marka Ragnos, Exar Kunn, and all of Luke’s achievements as grandmaster of the new Jedi Order.
@@daniyalvirk6302 Yeah, there were a bunch of issues with his 7-9, but it might have been a bit better if he got time to flesh it out. I feel like Disney had a decent idea, where they hired 3 directors, with JJ, who's really good at putting things in place, Rian, who's really good at developing things, but they put JJ back in for the 3rd movie, and he struggled with closing it in that movie, because Duel of Fates was pretty good in terms of a concept.
Star Wars is Episodes 1-6. And that's it. And that's all I need. It is a complete story -- and George Lucas clearly explains the completeness of the story.
@@homi1001 they are not a creative project. They are a destructive project, to replace a story they could never have set up with one of their own, a much less meaningful one. People say that the sequels were purely made because of greed, I think they are mostly created out of envy and pride.
Everyone knows that the sequels are a bad nightmare Luke had after the ewok party on Episode VI, that's it. I still consider Rogue One and Solo (also the Obi-Wan series and The Mandalorian) as real though.
When the emperor returned in Rise of Skywalker everyone was saying:"Oh my god, biggest pile of crappy garbage-shit we've ever seen!" but when it was done in the Thrawn-Triology everyone said:"Oh my god, biggest twist ever, Palpatine is a genius, coolest shit we've ever seen!" The Star Wars community is a really strange one.
@@Bambuzzsprosse it all depends on delivery I suppose. I haven't read the Thrawn trilogy but I am sure that the delivery of said twist in that story is a lot better than the "somehow hurrr" in the movies which had already been shitting all over star wars for 2 movies prior to it. It doesn't take a galaxy brain to figure out why one was welcomed by fans and the other was shit on.
@@Bambuzzsprosse ur joking right ? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Nevermind the fact dark empire is WAYYYYY better, palpatine shouldn’t return AT ALL, Heir to the empire are the true sequels to return of the Jedi
The fall of Anakin Skywalker is one of the most tragic stories in cinematic history. Someone with so much love and empathy, but still so flawed. So much pain and loss. And yet did so much harm to others. Even though he was ultimately redeemed, he must still be held accountable for all the pain, death and destruction he caused.
I was thinking the same thing. His redemption is a nice story, but it hardly negates the harm and loss he created, which was so much worse than he himself suffered. When you think about it, the jedi code of "no attachment" is what allowed a place for Palpatine a place into Anakin's heart to be able twist it to his will. If the jedi had been more cognizant mentors, they could have seen his pain and done something to help him heal. Instead they put him in a box that served their interests... until it didn't. Their solution to the problem is to get acolytes when they are young and moldable. If they don't find them soon enough, they are abandoned to figure it out on their own, which is why the sith would always be able to find young padwans, just like every other criminal enterprise IRL (mafia, yakuza, gangs etc). Sorry for the editorializing, just a stream of consciousness that jumped into my head as I watched this informative video😉
@@nard1000 the Jewish code itself is what brought Anikan down to the dark side, not the fact he had attachments, even the original Luke realized that and Luke allowed attachments in the new jedi order, until disney came along and ruined everything
It makes me unreasonably angry when people try to say Luke is The Chosen One. it takes one quick look up to see he isn’t. The creator of the universe literally says it right here “Anakin is The Chosen One”.
You can interpret works in many ways. You can use the word of the creator as the absolute truth, the actual work it self instead, or a combination of the two. George interprets his story as Anakin being the Chosen One and balance as no dark side, other interpret balance as a literal balance of light and dark and can view Luke as the Chosen One. As long as you can back up your interpretation with evidence then it’s valid.
@@mUndertakerg rogue one sucked. It erased Kyle Katarn, my favorite Star Wars character. I'll never watch Obi Wan. Dont care to see that character get as trashed as they did Luke and i also don't like giving a company as perverse as Disney money.
@@DevilWillCry222 Obi wan’s character didn’t get trashed. He ends up at the end of the show being the guy we saw in the other movies. Show has problems but Obi Wan’s character isn’t one of them
@SaiyanPrince97 well, he did, he murdered lots of jedis. In the end it was good for the balance of the force, but still, if he hadn't moved to the dark side he would have been the chosen one either way. That what I think.
If Anakin didn't fall to the Dark Side, Palpatine would have never died. He would have found another Sith, and that Sith wouldn't have been turned to the light side and thus Palpatine would never have died. Anakin is like a sacrifice to bring about balance, a martyr who was supposed to fall to the Dark Side to bring about the light.
@@misternich4935 palpatine might have been testing whether or not anakin would turn to the dark side. if not, palpatine could have probably just killed mace windu regardless
@@puncifikator3870 mace won fair and square George said that, there are a lot of parallels between mace and palpatine, they both seemingly have the same potential and they definitely share the same powers (shatterpoint, proficiency in 7th form of lightsaber combat, both using the dark side etc...) Palpatine could have won only if he killed mace in the beginning, you see mace has mastered vapaad which means that the longer the fight was going on the more he was channeling the dark side energy from palpatine.
If Anakin didnt fall to the dark side he would still bring balance becoming a full Jedi and doing it by killing the Sith. Is not that hard to understand.
I want George to come back and remake the sequels even if it's crap I'd rather watch his version then Disney's bull shit fan fiction version. That's my one wish I hope that comes true one day.
Luke was a symbol of hope, in hope to bring back the light, and he did bring back Anakin, Anakin fulfilled his destiny. This is why Disney SW will never be canon or part of this franchise in my eyes, episodes 1-6 will always be the real franchise and only.
Same. The only way I can view the Sequels...is if I mentally tell myself "ok, this is just an alternate universe". And it really is an alternate universe. Lucas clearly did not want this.
@@awakenow7147 I honestly see the disney made SW movies as a really expensive fan fiction trilogy, I don't count them as ever occurring in the real star wars universe, alternate reality or not.
@@hyperrunner8531 Thats valid. I think we're practically on the same page, but I have a bit of an unpopular opinion when it comes to the old Expanded Universe as well. I also see most of the EU as being pure fan fiction/alternate universe(with the exception of maybe KOTOR and Force Unleashed). Basically, anything that Lucas didn't seem to care for, I compartmentalize it and place it elsewhere in the multi-verse. Of course, the EU is largely better written than the Disney stuff, but that doesn't change the fact that it also strays from the core philosophy too many times for me to be comfortable with.
@@awakenow7147 I can definitely say I share a little bit of that opinion when it comes to only a small part of the EU, principally the parts after episode 6, and George has indeed expressed feeling the same way for the longest time as the whole thing of the Emperor coming back several times and then the republic collapsing again to then be reformed yet again just didn't sit right with me as it was super repetitive, lacking in originality, and just like the disney version, undermining of the point of the 6 true SW movies, that the chosen one was prophesied to destroy the sith and bring balance to the force, but the sith keep coming back again and again which basically makes everything Luke and his father did seem for nothing, that's why I don't count anything happening after episode 6 as canon. But most parts of the EU before the prequels I look at it as brilliantly crafted with immense depth, lore and realism that rivals the Tolkienverse, the origins of the sith, Darth Vitiate, Darth Nihilus, Revan, Darth Bane, the background to the rule of 2, the stuff that went on in the sith wars are so epic they very easily rival the movies, the writers had the space to be really creative and make up their own characters without having to be limited by the narrow possibilities of what sort of conflict could realistically arise after episode 6, its really difficult to make something like that work when the sith and the empire were defeated and the force was in balance, it was the ultimate ending, how do you continue it realistically? Which is why both disney and the EU really couldn't make a great squeal story It just seems like they were out of good ideas, but I would say George was the only one who knew how to carry on the story in a realistic way by changing the entire theme of it, doing something new and innovative, essentially taking the mythos to the next level by delving into the celestials and the deeper nature of the force and how/why it influences the events of the galaxy, a story structured on discovery of a deeper cosmic world that influences the force and the events of history similar to the Star Trek the final frontier movie where they discover secrets about creation, rather than your very typical dark vs light war would give us something new and progressing of what came before, wile giving greater meaning and understanding to all of it.
@@hyperrunner8531 Good points about the old republic content. I'm honestly not as concerned about that. I do think the old republic era has a lot more room for creativity. This could even be why George almost canonized Revan and Bane in The Clone Wars series. I guess my only nitpick about the old republic era is Kreia. I personally love her as a characters, and she brings up many good points in regards to the Force, Jedi, and Sith. But I do wonder if there was a way to incorporate her foresight in a more organic way with Lucas's movies. I respect KOTOR 2 as a deconstruction, but I wonder where it fits in exactly. Then again, I suppose my conditions can be a little steep sometimes. I too wanted to see George's expansion of the Force's lore. The microbiotic Whills using people as vehicles sounds insane...but somehow intriguing. The very description of the Whills makes them sound like they could either be a great ally, or a huge threat. But of course, Disney was too scared to even consider such a route. And to be fair...I feel like many of the fans would be too. The closest we're going to get...is whatever lore Dave Filoni decides to incorporate into his shows.
This is why I love Anakin Skywalker/Darth Vader; he committed a lot of horrible actions not even his redemption can completely make up for but you can still sympathize with him. With a lot of villains who commit horrendous actions and redeem themselves in the end, they still come off as unlikable and the redemption feels half-baked. However, Anakin is different because you can actually tell how he's feeling and understand the suffering he's going through, making him feel human.
I’ve always thought Luke and Anakin were representations of the 3 greatest kinds of heroes across storytelling history. Anakin is the prophesied “chosen one” and also the redeemed villain. Luke is the hero of a thousand faces- who became great seemingly by chance and his own sense of responsibility.
The first six movies have forever changed my view of Darth Vadar from an iconic villain to a tragic character. He was born into slavery and would spend the rest of his life in servitude to the dark side and the emperor (“I must obey my master”). He was only free during his time with the Jedi. He lost his mother, he lost his wife and his children (or so he thought) and had no friends except for the emperor, a man he probably despised. His entire life was one long tragedy.
@@luizboxwellgranja561 totally agree with you he was never free until he was freed by his son and i guess in death where he wasn't Vader anymore but himself
@@LukasOfTheLight the story of the prequels was pretty good but the deliverance, pacing, and the writing was bad. The idea of anakin going through journeys with kenobi, learning more about the emperor, witnessing anakin struggling with the dark side of the force, leading more about the Jedi, and watching kenobi story was pretty awesome. However, I will agree that their dialogues, acting, deliverance, and even some part of the story were extremely awful. George Lucas as a director is not his strong suit, but the concept of the prequels was still top notch.
@@techno639 Will with the movie they did. Rey was the one that brought balance to the force in the end. If rey was the one to end the sith then she is the chosen one not anakin. And its so dumb, because it always anakin star wars is all about anakin and the skywalkers.
@@user-vz2ot7cj5u Well technically it was also all the Jedi which includes Anakin, Luke, Obi Wan, Yoda, Qui Gon, Mace Windu, Ahsoka and Kanan so it wasn't just her
It was always Anakin... Through the Force, Luke was either used as a fail-safe option or as the final lesson that Anakin needed to learn depending on how you view the situation... essentially Free Will vs Destiny and all that jazz but it doesn't really matter... Because the core motivational force behind everything that Anakin did was always "the Fear of Loss" which first began with Losing his Mother. Then it was the Fear of Losing Padme that made him fall to the Dark. But it was also the Fear of Losing his Son that eventually made him rise back to the Light again. Throughout his long journey Anakin tried so hard to acquire all the power he could in order to protect those he cared about and to never lose them and at first this sounds noble or at the very least relatable. But in doing so he was led astray and taught to believe by Sidious (essentially the Devil) that only a person that can control everything can have any real impact. But this is a lie and is ultimately a path that can only lead to despair. It's only though self sacrifice for the greater good and letting go of trying to control everything that we are able to have the greatest positive impact on those we Love. And Anakin had to spend years in the Dark and in hellish torment to eventually understand that harsh lesson. The whole concept of "The Chosen One" (in every meaningful story created from Neo, Harry Potter, Jesus, etc.) is that they are never meant to walk an easy path. They have to suffer. There's no way around it. It's the only way in which life's greatest lessons and their own personal transcendence can be obtained.
I always loved Luke's conversation with Vader on Endor Something about the big bad and big good coming together to just have a genuine talk before moving on to the inevitable always gets me. Also because of how Vader for maybe once in his life doesn't intimidate or force or manipulate but just tries to convince Luke back as well as not mocking or trivialising Luke's thoughts and feelings, gets him to rethink instead.
@@DarthUchiha91 Disney robbed Anakin (and all other Star Wars characters) of his achievements so that they could give them to Rey. Anakin was supposed to destroy the Sith and bring balance to the Force, but they retconned Sidious back to life.
If George said it, then that settles it. The prophecy is true and we were right all along. Maybe they should brush up on their general education, the art of storytelling, and star wars history.
Joe Gray first off i hate the shitty prequels second no where else besides rebels does it say luke is the chosen one anakin being the chosen one is still offical canon how can he not be the whole saga revoles around him Give me proof of this claim.
Me, and after watching this i'm more inclined to think that ros is worse then tlj. By bringing sidious back they ruined everything that original trilogy and prequels had established. And they don't even explain how he came back, so basically they could bring him back again? Episode10: "I'm back bitches...again"
@@mychaellytvyn5100 Adding on to that. why couldnt any jedi figure out how to force heal like Ray and Kylo. Cause if they did Anakins Fall is completly pointless. He wouldnt need the darkside.
Masterpiece. These six movies will be long remembered, while the Disney output will fade into memory, the substandard, corporate byproduct of better times and greater imagination.
I wish it were true but Disney will keep pumping out more shows and movies and shows and movies that eventually, generations will come and go having been introduced to star wars ONLY through their garbage content. That's why they don't care that people reject their trash and call their new stories terrible. The goal is just to make a giant wall of content that ignore Lucas' cannon and keeps people subscribed and buying merch.
Very well put. That's how I deal with Disney's take on Star Wars. I just tell myself, "As far as I'm concerned, the story ended with Episode 6!! However, I really liked Rogue One!!
The prequels arw absolute shit. The only reason anyone is praising them now is because people hates the Disney ones so in their weak minds suddenly the prequels were great. They are trash. An abomination in terms of movie making. The original trilogy will live on forever and in time the prequels will be relegated back to the shit pile they came from with the Disney trilogy.
@@nossenkanter except that renders the prophecy of the chosen one as complete garbage. And renders basically the story of Star Wars (ie: the story of Anakin Skywalker) as complete garbage. Disneys sequels exist for one reason. It wasn't to complete the story. Because the story was complete. They exist because Money. Just to add, Palpatine was thrown down into a reactor. That Death Star then proceeds to explode. In space. Disney: "Somehow, Palpatine has returned"
@@nossenkanter George Lucas' own ex wife who was just as much part of creating Star Wars as George himself said in her own book that she was furious and in tears over what Disney did with her characters and world even from Force Awakens. George himself said that his ideas for the sequels were discarded by Disney. Whether you like the sequels or not; they are not true to the original saga or the vision of its actual creators
@A Guy he brought back the flow of the force that the siths were trying to build a dam to control everything. If they won, there wouldnt be a flow to the force for rey to harness as sith would control the flow of the force. aka no balance. think of it as a river. jedis flow through it, letting it guide them. siths harness the flow, and control it.
It’s crazy that people just blatantly deny what the creator of a fictional piece says about his own creation. This is just as bad as when some people deny that Luke and Anakin have the same potential, when George Lucas clearly stated it.
@@GB1510-yt well I mean Luke is a direct offspring of someone made directly from the force plus Lucas literally stated that they have the same potential so there is no denying it.
@@GB1510-yt I like to think of it like they have the same potential but luke wouldn’t reach his maximum potential like anakin did because he doesn’t utilize both sides of the force. But I’m a super new SW fan so I don’t know if that is true or not.
@@chanda3171 yeah it isn’t true but that would be a good theory if Lucas didn’t confirm that they have same potential and that Luke became what Anakin could not.
He was for the first three, he wasn't for the prequels and he cannot direct edit or scripwrite but as an ideas man he is great although he does borrow heavilly from other sci fi books but who doesn't.
@@jonesfamily4326 The overwhelming majority of the problems with the prequels go away if you just fix the dialogue and have good actors to deliver it. That's really the only thing holding them back, assuming you can handle the oversaturation of 2000s CGI.
@@jonesfamily4326 i wouldn't say he's a bad director but i agree with the script part lol though the story was good it was just the dialogue that was bad
@dextercochran4916 the actors were good. It's really just the dialogue. Hayden is a good actor he just got the cringiest lines George could think of. And everyone else in the movies were amazing. Ewan McGregor, Liam Neeson, Sam L Jackson, Ian McDiarmid and basically everyone else was amazing. The diologue is the culprit not the actors.
I honestly feel like there’s a lot of layers to this trilogy as far as structure goes. The three act structure can be split between the movies like this Act 1: Ep1-2 Act 2: Ep3-5 Act 3: Ep6
techno639 act 2 ends at a low point in the three act structure. Act 1 and 3 are roughly 25% of the story each whole act 2 is 50%. Splitting them equally doesn’t work. Also 7-9 is too far separated from the prequels to work in that way, aside from the last minute inclusion of palpatine
This pretty much makes the sequels completely noncanon fanfiction by official standards. George himself confirmed that Palpatine died and Anakin was the Chosen One. The sequels undermined both of those things with both Rey and Palpatine.
@@DarthUchiha91 physically he did die. Soul wise it still took him a good while to transfer into one of his clones. And even then you saw how quickly his own soul began to destroy the clone body. The thing people forgetting bout balance, it never STAYS balanced forever. The fact people are complaining bout palpatine "surviving" Ep6 into the legends story is like people denying the fact that becoming a force ghost isnt immortality despite them saying thats a way to become immortal. Palpatine just used the dark version of the same end result.
@@DarthUchiha91 legends was never canon at all anyway. George also said that Clone Wars, the Prequels, and Original Trilogy were canon because he worked on them.
I wasn’t a huge fan of the Star Wars prequels, but adding the prophecy was such a smart and artistically sensitive move. The prophecy is basically forgotten about by all the characters over time, and by the time Vader redeems himself the audience is the only one remembering it. It makes Vader’s last moments so much more emotionally tender, to see him fulfil his destiny even after so much violence and bloodshed.
Xlen Omega We all do buddy, We all do...... and now we DAMN sure wish Ep8 didn't exist, more so than Ep7. At least Abrams somewhat knew what he was doing, Rian Johnson had no idea what HE was doing at all. He didn't even know how to make a Star Wars film even FEEL like a Star Wars film at all. It was horrible. It had a couple pretty cool parts and action scenes yea, but the movie itself overall and the whole storyline is just flat out horrible in every way.
not me tho i liked ep7, rogue one and ep8! Disney is doing good with star wars so far. We got star wars rebels which btw is a great show. I'm fully star wars fan! i like everything star wars related. (well not everything cough... jar jar...)
Well, you will have to contend with the fans of Rey now. If there are any. She is the chosen one in the new film. To do what Anakin didn't do. Which is ludicrous
I’ve literally never heard an “OT fanboy” declare Luke to be the chosen one; there is no mention of a chosen one in the OT to begin with. I think it’s pretty much universally understood to be Anakin (or at least it _was,_ then Rey came along...)
@@unpopularopinions7407 Rebels... Obi Wan said Luke was the chosen one since he tought Anakin was gone forever. So some OT fanboys say that Obi Wan was right. They also say that without Luke saving his father the emperor would still be alive there for Luke is the chosen one. But then I just say but without Anakin Luke wouldn't even exist.
Anakin Skywalker/Darth Vader will always be my favourite hero. To me, he represents the very core of the human being: The immense good and love we're capable of, the suffering we face and sometimes are crushed by, the desire to be free to choose, the drive to serve a higher purpose, the evil that knows no boundaries, the venegefulness we fight but often fall prey to, the loss we cannot escape, the sadness and anger that consume us like fire, the ability to change and find a way back to our hurt heart. Anakin Skywalker is that all and more, all that represents humanity. He is both the greatest failure and the greatest success in the world. That's why he's my favourite hero, and that's why he's the Chosen One.
What’s truly sad is that anakin from birth was given a burden so heavy that not only did it cost him his love ones but his own self in which he gave in to evil only to be saved by his own son such a tragic yet beautiful story Lucas created.
At the very end of his life, Anakin did bring balance to the force. He was destined to. Even the injury no one else would've survived Anakin did survive, probably by the will of the Force itself. And so, he redeemed himself and fulfilled the final destiny of his life.
Anakin lost everything, his wife, his body, his health, all he had was anger. He couldn't start a new family, he could only focus on his "job". Thats so good story. Everything about anakin is so great, that every other story seams boring. It's really hard to one-up that. Every other bad SW movie, makes anakin story greater.
There are two things that so many Star Wars fans fundamentally misunderstand and it skews their entire perception of the saga. But these are facts and they need to be understood. *1. Anakin was the Chosen One.* He always was and always will be (which is a serious critique of what the sequels later did) *2. He did not bring balance to the Force in Revenge of the Sith, he did it in Return of the Jedi.* Too many people think balance in the Force is equality between the Jedi and Sith but that was never true. Lucas always treated the Dark Side as a corruption of the Force, where balance can only be achieved if the corruption is destroyed. In this case, balance means harmony and you can only have harmony when the unbalance Sith aren't destroying, controlling, and manipulating everything. It's like a human body, is the body balanced when you eat heathy foods and poison in equal amounts? No. The most balance you can have is when you only eat healthy food. When Anakin helped destroy the Jedi, he threw the Force into an imbalance. But the surprise was that in the end, he established balance by destroying the Sith. That's why the happy ending is when Luke, the only Force user left, is a Jedi. The Force is balanced when only the Jedi exist, that is the balance Lucas always talked about the films reflect this.
This is a well thought out take, but I disagree. The thing is, the prequels and OT both show us that neither the Jedi nor the Sith are very good. They both try to manipulate and use Anakin and Luke. Thats why Anakin fell. He needed trust and love and etc. and the Jedi failed him while looking out for their own ends. Obi Wan and Yoda did the same to Luke. We see this in ROTJ. From the very beginning, Luke is walking a super fine line between dark and light. He's dressed in all black, he's cocky and brash in his approach to Jabba, hell...he even force chokes Gamoreans. That is 100% a Sith move. But he's also still a good guy doing good things. Morally gray you might call it. Then, at the end, when goaded by the Emperor and Vader, Luke loses it and hits Vader with a Wolverine style Berzerker Barrage which results in Vader beaten down and his hand cut off. Full on dark side rage. The emporer cheers and Luke realizes what he's done. He seees his fathers robot hand and then his own. Its at this moment, when Luke says NO, throws down his sword and denies the Emporer what he wants, that Anakin understands. Palpatine tortures Luke and he begs his father for help, and Anakin can take it no longer, tosses Palps and saves Luke. Here at the end, all Jedi are dead (taking ONLY the movies Canon into account) and all Sith are dead, leaving Luke. The only one who managed to find the balance between dark and light. To me, this says Anakin brought about the balance, and Luke is the representation of said balance.
I knew it! What i loved about these films is the way it narrated the chosen one story line and how Anakin did prove to be the chosen one but not going through the journey we all assumed or expected, love it when story lines go against the norm
This is why anikins/vaders story is my favorite of all of scifi . It’s rare when the chosen one or hero of a story becomes evil and is later redeemed with such a twist.
@@fuehwbdb3765 true .and Disney or should I say Kathleen Kennedy who has become Disney does approve this cannon and even has I believe pushed the creator of star wars original and prequel trilogy off the set of Obi wan Kenobi series..star wars was being rescued by the mandorian series under the stewardship of someone who actually understands and loves star wars. its lore and fanbase.which is more majority men. But actually speak to women who love star wars i.e one of my best friends from high school,who also was nerdy dungeon and dragons type and she will tell anyone she doesn't want Mary sues i.e Rey and Kathleen Kennedy patronising her rather strong characters. with strong character arc and strong main plot with a few interesting subplots taken from existing legends lore i.e legends is canon,middle finger Kathleen.
@@fuehwbdb3765 p.s just get rid of Kathleen Kennedy and Disney problem mostly solved.she is so toxic.she's mercury and uranium all in one. rogue one was also a star wars mini recovery and george Lucas really liked it.plus force awakens was just lacking in originality with Rey following same plot as Luke the seeming nobody on desert planet.however it was beautifully shot from the very first long shot of the landscape and then Rey scavenging metal for food.the production values of JJ Abrams were superb for awakens.e.g location shooting,insisting on using same sets as original trilogy.so JJ Abrams is more influential on force awakens but Abrams is huge Spielberg fan and he just nostalgically recreates seventies and eighties era e.g his super eight sci fi film. Kathleen's claws still got into force awakens however by making Rey straight away able to best a storm trooper and kylo the grandson of Darth Vader at light saber dueling at first attempt.the mary Sue. If not for that no for beating kylo at light saber duel ,no major issues with force awakens.and most fans loved it and then said how the prequels were so bad .but then after the last jedi they changed their mind saying they wished for the prequels and that both sequels were terrible, really the force awakens was nostalgically safe,it was nice and JJ Abrams is at fault for giving up the last Jedi to a new director who dismissed and scrapped JJ Abrams existing script for his own radical version which we got in the cinema ,the most hated film of a fanbase in recent times .why did abrams give it up??
George: *looks upon his entire estate, legacy, and self-satisfaction from creating a six-story saga that everyone loves and completely outshines 7, 8, & 9* Uno Reverse Card
Whenever someone tells me Anakin isn't the Chosen One, I just copy this link and all they have to do is click. However, now that Disney owns it they have the legal right to change that. It depends on how you look at it. Do you trust the man who created the whole Star Wars universe and the story? Or do you trust those who can tell the story simply because they bought it? Then, you have those who will adhere to fan fiction. For example, the fan remake of Darth Vader vs Obi-Wan Kenobi I want to consider as canon. 😂 You can believe whatever you want. At the end of the day, it's just a story and no one should get bent out of shape over something that isn't real. Celebrate the fact that Lucas gave this to us in the first place and show the man some respect.
Eric Neely I say Lucas has the final say regardless, if you really hate the Disney movies. You can just think of 1-6 as a finishe story, and ignore 7-9
@@ericsesame6321 It's unfortunate. Best case scenario would have been for Lucas to do the sequel trilogy before selling it to Disney, then they could have taken off from there and created stories outside of the Skywalker Saga. Instead the sale of Lucasfilm opened up interpretation of Anakin and Luke's legacies to directors and writers outside of Lucas' influence. I enjoyed the sequel trilogy and love all things Star Wars. I do think it's sad that we couldn't see Lucas' vision all the way through.
Luke brought Anakin back that's why people thought it was him he got him to become Anakin again and kill the emperor and up until I saw this I thought it was luke too because he was too pure and wise like obi-wan and yoda
@@angelothompson186 he was too pure because he never faced the hypocrisy of the Jedi Council which Anakin did, tbh, even Luke would have snapped out if he was in Anakin's place.
It's funny how Disney completely destroyed George Lucas idea. "Somehow Palpatine returned" lmfao Anakin: Am I a joke to u? Thats why the sequels and not canon. Even legends is more canon than the sequels.
This is the story of star wars. The sequels gave me the feeling nobody working on those films, SW is not about space ships and light sabers, but about the emotional conflict with in characters like anakin skywalker
I like to think Anakin had the power to fulfill the prophecy on a galactic level. Not just the relational one between Jedi and Sith force users. Anakin’s godlike connection to the Force, respect as a military leader and state royalty status through marriage to Padme primed him to have ushered in a galactic era. In the end, I think the Prophecy was still “technically” fulfilled - but on a much smaller scale in ways that Palpatine altered forever. Luke was able to salvage the small glimmer of Anakin left to fulfill the prophecy. The Jedi really let Anakin down and it cost the entire order, Republic, and galaxy dearly. Lucas wrote a masterpiece of a tragedy that manages to also be hopeful. Just my 2 cents.
he was afraid because anakin was the strongest of them all in the force even Yoda. that is why Yoda feared for his future. so Palpatine had to manipulate him and get him to the dark side.
but that was the whole prophecy, that Palpatine didn't get. Yoda didn't want to believe anakin was the chosen one because he feared that what if the prophecy change patterns and the sith once rule again and anakin didn't bring balance to the force whether he was dark side or not.
but it did come true because of his son Luke. once Vader destroyed Darth Sidious, sith no longer exist anymore because there is not rule of one. there is must be a dark lord of the sith for sith to exist. that is why Kylo Ren wants to contine.
Balance is not between light and dark. Light and dark, good and evil, they're all just words. You can't have balance between vocabulary. Balance is between life and death. Life creates the force, so preserving life strengthens the force. The Jedi protect all life and accept death, preserving the balance between the two. The Sith destroy life for self-gain and power, and they defy death for selfish reasons, as Anakin did, which disrupts the balance. That's the real and tangible balance that the films are referring to, not some simplistic and intangible notion of "light" and "dark."
I mean, he brought balance to the force, just not in the way everyone, including the Jedi, expected. He killed almost all the Jedi and then killed Sidious. Force balanced
Except for luke, the ultimate jedi. The prophecy was destroy the sith, not end the conflict by destroying the two polls. One side, the sith destroys everything no matter what, the jedi only fight the sith and cause destruction if the sith are around. Balance, peace, only comes from destroying the sith.
@@Aceshot-uu7yx and he did destroy the sith, as george lucas says in the video. he kills palpatine and then himself. luke isn't the chosen one, he never was, never will be.
@@Parallel_ Believe it. Disney is ruthless, they do not care about Lucas. Matter of fact, I truly believe that they resent him. They're jealous of the fact that he was once practically independent, while they are all slaves to the system.
@@awakenow7147 That's what I've been saying all along !!! George is a self made man, that created something legendary. Out of jealousy they ruined his creation.
@@AlexYBITW It really does seem like that. The decisions that they made for the sequel stories just feel like pure spite. I mean...really? A Palpatine adopting the Skywalker name? I feel like we're in an alternate universe right now.
imagine having a trilogy about darth vader that are between 4,5,6. secrets things he do for good(anakin side of him showing up here and there), some flashback when he lost everything, the struggle of being evil and justify it by his loss, etc etc, man that would be amazing.
EXACTLY George please come back and save star wars remake the sequels even it their crap I'd rather watch his version then Disney's shit trilogy all Disney's version is just fan fiction lmao
@@OkamiVtuber it’s not somehow he returned. The Jedi can turn into force ghosts. Some can heal. Some can’t. The dark side is always stronger because it is more about controlling the force for personal gains. the light side is about letting the force be as it should be. the idea is some dark force users will be able to return. When he returned he was not as strong as when we last saw him. Rey had to have help from every single force ghost to defeat him.
EXACTLY… not at all. The force you know not. Learn more. You’re only looking at what you remember not the complete picture. Watch it all again. but realize light side was always weaker. they turn into jedi ghosts. The stronger force allows for some to return. Just like…. Some jedi can heal, some can’t.
that actor really was perfect as anakin skywalker especially in revenge of the sith. brw as much as people knock lucas's prequel trilogy, the revenge of the sith is an amazing film. the downfall of anakin is deeply disturbing and utterly relatable.he is a man madly in love, and cant beat to lose her. this is where the problems with the light side of the force appear. where the jedi ban all amotion. anakin is even ordered by yoda to not grieve or even miss his mother who has just been killed. yoda is the worst at the emotional repression theology. balancing the force means among other things embracing emotion and stopping the ban on jedis getting married and having children. the jedi order is analogous to roman catholic monk orders. very similar. anakin may never have turned into darth vader if he had not been properly counselled, if he had been allowed to express his emotion, allowed to grieve, if his romance had been allowed. obi wan is at least far more affectionate towards anakin, treating him as his brother, and we see how emotional he gets after being forced to cut anakin into several pieces with his lightsaber in their final duel at the end of revenge of the sith.
The child-parent relationship was probably the only thing that could get through to Anakin/Vader's core and really make him human again. Luke and Leia were what remained of Padme and his old self
I think it should be included that anakin was involved in destroying the corrupted jedi order. Only the ones that were truly strong with the force survived till the end. So I do say he did bring balance
Not to mention that the Jedi Order had become a rather corrupt shell of its former self. I'd like to think that bringing balance to the force also meant stripping down that institution (ala Order 66), something the Jedi Order never realized. Given that Luke is a complete subversion of the Jedi's dogmatic teachings (has attachments to his friends, proves that it's possible to bring someone who's turned to darkside back to the light) I'd like to believe the prophecy also involves a new era of Jedi that won't repeat the mistakes of the Republic-era Order (Disney's sequel trilogy is not canon in my mind).
Craig Not at all Anakin still is in the film he says “Now bring balance to the force as I have Rey” He will always be the chosen one Rey couldn’t beat Palpatine alone she had all the power of the Jedi inside of her in that moment. The only reason she was able to defeat him is because she had the bloodline of Palpy and the Chosen one was inside of her too.
yep, always has been, always will be. luke isn’t the chosen one, luke is the balance that vader brought to the force. and in the end, that balance aided him in destroying the sith. smart shit, eh? really admire this kind of stuff with lucas’s storytelling.
i dont think luke was the balance of it. i think its more like a river and the jedi just flow through it, let it guide them through for the will of the force. but the sith want to control the flow of the force for themselves. but yes luke was the connection anakin needed to get back to the flow. but luke would have most likely died if it wasnt his dad. and then the sith would have taken control of the forces path. potentially ppl that would have had force abblities, wouldnt or just be weaker.
I always just assumed that "bringing balance to the force" when the light side was so much stronger than the dark was just something the jedi didn't think through.
The light side is stronger but the dark fights and causes turmoil by existing. The dark will destroy no matter what, the jedi fight that destruction and if the dark is not present than there is peace. The only connection between evil in the force and the suffering caused by the jedi is the sith.
@@shellfire6931 it was what george said. You can argue semantics on meening but it was what he wrote it as. We could be here all day or except that the balance he was talking about was the force being at peace. Something that could only be achieved by removing the sith.
@@Aceshot-uu7yx This isn't semantics, this is literally the definition of the word. Also, the prophecy didn't say 'bring peace to the force.' It said 'bring balance to the force.'
@@shellfire6931 literally what george said was light winning was balance as the force will no longer be in turmoil, the sith clause turmoil and removing it is balance. In Buddhism desires are what cause samsara nirvana is achieved from cutting the desires out, desires do not coexist with virtue it must be removed to achieve in balance, remove the source of disruption and everything is calm. When you have a problem you remove what's causing the problem not balance it with what is not causing problems.
wenseslaus dasepta there’s some vid that’s says why the council didn’t trust anakin and this guy said that Luke is the chosen one Luke was only able to turn him back to the light
You are all showing your age and lack of maturity. They are one, the father is nothing without the son, and the son is nothing without the father. And you are missing what made all these films great. But I will gift you this. th-cam.com/video/-2BNdF_NCVQ/w-d-xo.html .
whe should all download a copy of this just in case. if disney tries to say rey is the chosen one, we should mail them this on sd cards, usb drives, even on dvd or vhs.
![Everything Anakin did as a Force Ghost [Canon and Legends]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/UEGj4OA_hjg/mqdefault.jpg)
Years later: “somehow Palpatine returned…”
Damn It!
The return of Palpatine actually makes sense considering Star Wars Canon history and the powers that Darth Sidious has compared to older Siths, when you consider Sith Alchemy, Essence transfer and Immortality, it makes perfect sense that he would be able to return. It could just have been done a lot better and it does clash somehow with the Chosen One prophecy (which I have a problem with in the first place anyway as getting rid of the dark side entirely is not bringing balance and is not realistic, so it is either a false prophecy or its true meaning was misunderstood).
@@YAZlakhdar It doesn't matter if it makes sense in some weird way like "muh but he has that kind of power". It completely destroys the entire point of the ENTIRE series.
@@YAZlakhdar Getting rid of the Sith is bringing balance, that's literally George Lucas' definition. The Sith and the use of the Dark Side to gain power is the imbalance. That's how Light, Dark, and the Force work in this universe
What i understand is that Palpatine wanted a strong force user to transfer his essence into from the very beginning, that's why he made Luke and Vader fight, it was a win/win situation for him. But he didn't expect Luke resisting the Dark Side and Vader redeeming himself and this was his undoing, also blowing up twice. in space.
There was literally nobody around for him to transfer into, and that's why him returning is not only stupid, but completely disrespectful to the source material and the viewer's intelligence and their understanding of cause and effect.
@@fio_lume it seems the main idea of movies using force for destruction is moving world to imbalance state, and using force for sustaining the world is making world balanced.
When the creator of Star Wars says it then its the truth
I had to come here because people keep saying Anakin brought balance by killing all the jedi. Like are people really that stupid?
moist_captain yes he killed all the Jedi and smith
He also said star wars is for kids
@@techno639 It is for children. I mean, it can be enjoyed by everyone but, it's primarily made for children and tween boys.
@@Johnnybomb1 He also gave Yoda a lightsaber I don't have to agree with this man
Anakin Skywalker =one of the saddest tales, but also one of the best written characters of all time.
Well we all know who the Chosen One is, and who it will always be.
Me
Rey Skywalker
@@jayguero2123 you are stupid
Darth Vader ikr he is sooo stupid
Jay Guero you have made a CRIME SIR, REY SKYWALKER IS NOT A SKYWALKER, SHE A PALPATINE YOU DUMB DUMB
I Can't believe there are still people denying that Anakin is the chosen one, when the creator of Star Wars himself confirms it... Its hilarious
And now people wants Anakin to be the chosen one
whoever says rEy SkYwAlKeR is the chosen one they need serious help
All the wars fought by hundreds of extremely powerful Sith and Jedi with real Dark v Light battles makes the Clone Wars and Galactic wars seem like a small dodgeball game. Being a powerful Jedi never mattered at that time. If there was only a small village of humans left, and they were fighting wars with nearby anthills it wouldn’t matter who the stronger human was because the enemy is crushed just as easily. Humans v ants are Jedi v Soldiers/battle droids. And making Anakin the “Chosen One” at that time, like bruh does it really matter? Not really because the Sith have pretty much been wiped out already. What’s killing one or two more? There were *zero* Sith at one point in time way after the Sith Empire was destroyed and people found their old knowledge. It’s gonna happen again at some point or another.
Anakin killing himself then Palpatine is a footnote compared to Vitiate/Valkorian, Revan, Malgus, Nihilus, Hero of Tython, Marka Ragnos, Exar Kunn, and all of Luke’s achievements as grandmaster of the new Jedi Order.
@@rokia360 he is Lucas said it in the Video bro are you dumb haha Anakin is the Choosen won
Well in Star Wars rebels, Obi-Wan says Luke is the chosen one to Darth Maul. I always interpreted it as Luke was the chosen one.
Absolutely love George Lucas. A shame we never got to see his 7 - 9, that Disney threw away.
his 7-9 made leia the chosen one
@@daniyalvirk6302 Yeah, there were a bunch of issues with his 7-9, but it might have been a bit better if he got time to flesh it out. I feel like Disney had a decent idea, where they hired 3 directors, with JJ, who's really good at putting things in place, Rian, who's really good at developing things, but they put JJ back in for the 3rd movie, and he struggled with closing it in that movie, because Duel of Fates was pretty good in terms of a concept.
@@askask2721 They had good ideas, but 7-9 suck so bad
@@daniyalvirk6302Yea that was a bit dumb, cause he literally stated here that Anakin will always be the chosen one either way.
@@daniyalvirk6302 Those were the first drafts, not the final concept
Star Wars is Episodes 1-6. And that's it. And that's all I need. It is a complete story -- and George Lucas clearly explains the completeness of the story.
Anyone who considers the Sequels as Canon must go into exile. I still cant believe how hard they fumbled those movies in every way possible.
@@homi1001 they are not a creative project. They are a destructive project, to replace a story they could never have set up with one of their own, a much less meaningful one. People say that the sequels were purely made because of greed, I think they are mostly created out of envy and pride.
@@homi1001 I agree. And what is sad is they are happy with the result because they made the money they wanted to make.
Everyone knows that the sequels are a bad nightmare Luke had after the ewok party on Episode VI, that's it.
I still consider Rogue One and Solo (also the Obi-Wan series and The Mandalorian) as real though.
@@homi1001 kenobi series really opens the doors to new reboots of episode 4 to 6. Let's pray it will be the greatest star wars movie ever
"Somehow, Palpatine survived."
Lucas: "Oh come on!!!"
Lucas: "You know how much I sacrificed!!?"
When the emperor returned in Rise of Skywalker everyone was saying:"Oh my god, biggest pile of crappy garbage-shit we've ever seen!" but when it was done in the Thrawn-Triology everyone said:"Oh my god, biggest twist ever, Palpatine is a genius, coolest shit we've ever seen!"
The Star Wars community is a really strange one.
@@Bambuzzsprosse it all depends on delivery I suppose. I haven't read the Thrawn trilogy but I am sure that the delivery of said twist in that story is a lot better than the "somehow hurrr" in the movies which had already been shitting all over star wars for 2 movies prior to it. It doesn't take a galaxy brain to figure out why one was welcomed by fans and the other was shit on.
@@Bambuzzsprosse When a film is as shit as episode 9, everything in it will look even worse.
@@Bambuzzsprosse ur joking right ? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Nevermind the fact dark empire is WAYYYYY better, palpatine shouldn’t return AT ALL, Heir to the empire are the true sequels to return of the Jedi
The fall of Anakin Skywalker is one of the most tragic stories in cinematic history. Someone with so much love and empathy, but still so flawed. So much pain and loss. And yet did so much harm to others. Even though he was ultimately redeemed, he must still be held accountable for all the pain, death and destruction he caused.
IS* in my opinion
I was thinking the same thing. His redemption is a nice story, but it hardly negates the harm and loss he created, which was so much worse than he himself suffered. When you think about it, the jedi code of "no attachment" is what allowed a place for Palpatine a place into Anakin's heart to be able twist it to his will. If the jedi had been more cognizant mentors, they could have seen his pain and done something to help him heal. Instead they put him in a box that served their interests... until it didn't. Their solution to the problem is to get acolytes when they are young and moldable. If they don't find them soon enough, they are abandoned to figure it out on their own, which is why the sith would always be able to find young padwans, just like every other criminal enterprise IRL (mafia, yakuza, gangs etc). Sorry for the editorializing, just a stream of consciousness that jumped into my head as I watched this informative video😉
@@nard1000 the Jewish code itself is what brought Anikan down to the dark side, not the fact he had attachments, even the original Luke realized that and Luke allowed attachments in the new jedi order, until disney came along and ruined everything
@@mystikow6287 didnt know Anikan is jew
@@mystikow6287 what in the actual Fuck are you talking about? You meant the Jedi code right? Lol
It makes me unreasonably angry when people try to say Luke is The Chosen One. it takes one quick look up to see he isn’t. The creator of the universe literally says it right here “Anakin is The Chosen One”.
Well this dickbag also destroyed this Universe singlehandedly.
Boognish prequel haters are the garbage of this community
You can interpret works in many ways. You can use the word of the creator as the absolute truth, the actual work it self instead, or a combination of the two.
George interprets his story as Anakin being the Chosen One and balance as no dark side, other interpret balance as a literal balance of light and dark and can view Luke as the Chosen One.
As long as you can back up your interpretation with evidence then it’s valid.
It's even worse when people say that Rey is the chosen one. Smh 🤦♂️
Luke was a symbol of hope, not the chosen one. He brought back the light in his father, and Anakin fulfilled his destiny, when killed Palpateine.
People need to just accept it. Hayden was the perfect fit for Anakin and Anakin is the chosen one.
Well he hates sand
@@crazybiscut Who doesn't?
@@delphicdescant younglings?
@@crazybiscut Lol I meant who doesn't hate sand. It's actually terrible stuff. I thought that was a good line in the movie because I agreed with it.
@@crazybiscut and that's what did them in 😂
I love that the lovers of the originals ant the prequels now have joined forces against the sequels...
Star Wars meant something once. Before the dark times. Before Disney.
Empress Kennedy
Rogue One and Obi Wan were kinda good. Disney fucked up the sequels
@@mUndertakerg Yeah, it's mostly the sequels, and Book of Boba Fett, the rest is ok.
@@mUndertakerg rogue one sucked. It erased Kyle Katarn, my favorite Star Wars character.
I'll never watch Obi Wan. Dont care to see that character get as trashed as they did Luke and i also don't like giving a company as perverse as Disney money.
@@DevilWillCry222 Obi wan’s character didn’t get trashed. He ends up at the end of the show being the guy we saw in the other movies. Show has problems but Obi Wan’s character isn’t one of them
This is why I cry every single time Darth Vader dies in Return of the Jedi
I cry evry tiem ( ;_ʖ ;)
@SaiyanPrince97 well, he did, he murdered lots of jedis. In the end it was good for the balance of the force, but still, if he hadn't moved to the dark side he would have been the chosen one either way. That what I think.
@@popez10 no that was darth Vader
@@beebear4541 what do you mean? Not trying to sound upset, is just that i didnt understand what you tried to say refering to my comment.
@@popez10 it was darth Vader who killed the jedis and the youngLings not anakin because he was consumed by darth Vader
Anakin had to moved through the dark into the light to find his true self back! What a great story..I always loved Star Wars it’s such a great saga 💫
The line he is redeemed by his son
Such a good message
If Anakin didn't fall to the Dark Side, Palpatine would have never died. He would have found another Sith, and that Sith wouldn't have been turned to the light side and thus Palpatine would never have died. Anakin is like a sacrifice to bring about balance, a martyr who was supposed to fall to the Dark Side to bring about the light.
If anakin didnt fall to the darkside mace windu would have killed palapatine instead anakin cut his hand off
@@misternich4935 palpatine might have been testing whether or not anakin would turn to the dark side. if not, palpatine could have probably just killed mace windu regardless
@@puncifikator3870 judging by how fast that lightsaber was going palpatine wouldn't have had the time
@@puncifikator3870 mace won fair and square George said that, there are a lot of parallels between mace and palpatine, they both seemingly have the same potential and they definitely share the same powers (shatterpoint, proficiency in 7th form of lightsaber combat, both using the dark side etc...) Palpatine could have won only if he killed mace in the beginning, you see mace has mastered vapaad which means that the longer the fight was going on the more he was channeling the dark side energy from palpatine.
If Anakin didnt fall to the dark side he would still bring balance becoming a full Jedi and doing it by killing the Sith.
Is not that hard to understand.
It is such a beautiful story. Luke's faith saved his father's soul, they really did him wrong in the sequels.
What Sequels?! 🤷🏻♂️
George Lucas is a genius!!! Loved the prequels!
I want George to come back and remake the sequels even if it's crap I'd rather watch his version then Disney's bull shit fan fiction version. That's my one wish I hope that comes true one day.
@@OkamiVtuber Indeed
And I’m tired of pretending I don’t. The prequels are AMAZING, and I LOVE both Hayden’s and jake’s acting. I said it. Fuck you.
Luke was a symbol of hope, in hope to bring back the light, and he did bring back Anakin, Anakin fulfilled his destiny. This is why Disney SW will never be canon or part of this franchise in my eyes, episodes 1-6 will always be the real franchise and only.
Same. The only way I can view the Sequels...is if I mentally tell myself "ok, this is just an alternate universe".
And it really is an alternate universe. Lucas clearly did not want this.
@@awakenow7147 I honestly see the disney made SW movies as a really expensive fan fiction trilogy, I don't count them as ever occurring in the real star wars universe, alternate reality or not.
@@hyperrunner8531 Thats valid. I think we're practically on the same page, but I have a bit of an unpopular opinion when it comes to the old Expanded Universe as well. I also see most of the EU as being pure fan fiction/alternate universe(with the exception of maybe KOTOR and Force Unleashed). Basically, anything that Lucas didn't seem to care for, I compartmentalize it and place it elsewhere in the multi-verse.
Of course, the EU is largely better written than the Disney stuff, but that doesn't change the fact that it also strays from the core philosophy too many times for me to be comfortable with.
@@awakenow7147 I can definitely say I share a little bit of that opinion when it comes to only a small part of the EU, principally the parts after episode 6, and George has indeed expressed feeling the same way for the longest time as the whole thing of the Emperor coming back several times and then the republic collapsing again to then be reformed yet again just didn't sit right with me as it was super repetitive, lacking in originality, and just like the disney version, undermining of the point of the 6 true SW movies, that the chosen one was prophesied to destroy the sith and bring balance to the force, but the sith keep coming back again and again which basically makes everything Luke and his father did seem for nothing, that's why I don't count anything happening after episode 6 as canon.
But most parts of the EU before the prequels I look at it as brilliantly crafted with immense depth, lore and realism that rivals the Tolkienverse, the origins of the sith, Darth Vitiate, Darth Nihilus, Revan, Darth Bane, the background to the rule of 2, the stuff that went on in the sith wars are so epic they very easily rival the movies, the writers had the space to be really creative and make up their own characters without having to be limited by the narrow possibilities of what sort of conflict could realistically arise after episode 6, its really difficult to make something like that work when the sith and the empire were defeated and the force was in balance, it was the ultimate ending, how do you continue it realistically?
Which is why both disney and the EU really couldn't make a great squeal story It just seems like they were out of good ideas, but I would say George was the only one who knew how to carry on the story in a realistic way by changing the entire theme of it, doing something new and innovative, essentially taking the mythos to the next level by delving into the celestials and the deeper nature of the force and how/why it influences the events of the galaxy, a story structured on discovery of a deeper cosmic world that influences the force and the events of history similar to the Star Trek the final frontier movie where they discover secrets about creation, rather than your very typical dark vs light war would give us something new and progressing of what came before, wile giving greater meaning and understanding to all of it.
@@hyperrunner8531 Good points about the old republic content. I'm honestly not as concerned about that. I do think the old republic era has a lot more room for creativity. This could even be why George almost canonized Revan and Bane in The Clone Wars series. I guess my only nitpick about the old republic era is Kreia. I personally love her as a characters, and she brings up many good points in regards to the Force, Jedi, and Sith. But I do wonder if there was a way to incorporate her foresight in a more organic way with Lucas's movies. I respect KOTOR 2 as a deconstruction, but I wonder where it fits in exactly. Then again, I suppose my conditions can be a little steep sometimes.
I too wanted to see George's expansion of the Force's lore. The microbiotic Whills using people as vehicles sounds insane...but somehow intriguing. The very description of the Whills makes them sound like they could either be a great ally, or a huge threat. But of course, Disney was too scared to even consider such a route. And to be fair...I feel like many of the fans would be too. The closest we're going to get...is whatever lore Dave Filoni decides to incorporate into his shows.
This is why I love Anakin Skywalker/Darth Vader; he committed a lot of horrible actions not even his redemption can completely make up for but you can still sympathize with him. With a lot of villains who commit horrendous actions and redeem themselves in the end, they still come off as unlikable and the redemption feels half-baked. However, Anakin is different because you can actually tell how he's feeling and understand the suffering he's going through, making him feel human.
I’ve always thought Luke and Anakin were representations of the 3 greatest kinds of heroes across storytelling history. Anakin is the prophesied “chosen one” and also the redeemed villain. Luke is the hero of a thousand faces- who became great seemingly by chance and his own sense of responsibility.
Pretty interesting. Do you know a book that explains heroes or storytelling stuff ?
@@leoetlesbas2343 'Hero with a Thousand Faces' by Joseph Campbell was referenced by Lucas when developing Star Wars
@@leoetlesbas2343 “Hero with a thousand faces” by Joseph Campbell, and “Story” by Robert McKee are both very good references.
Thanks a lot !
@@solvemproblerstudios5889 So what's the third type? Nvm anakin is two of them got it.
Anakin/Vader is the most beautiful character I've yet to encounter, incredibly written by George
The first six movies have forever changed my view of Darth Vadar from an iconic villain to a tragic character. He was born into slavery and would spend the rest of his life in servitude to the dark side and the emperor (“I must obey my master”). He was only free during his time with the Jedi. He lost his mother, he lost his wife and his children (or so he thought) and had no friends except for the emperor, a man he probably despised. His entire life was one long tragedy.
He was a slave to the jedi too, he was only free in his death
@@luizboxwellgranja561 totally agree with you he was never free until he was freed by his son and i guess in death where he wasn't Vader anymore but himself
Let me feel bad for the genocidal space-robot terrorist who oppressed the galaxy and slaughtered Jedi
@@cheikhdiouf5617 butthurt?
@@cheikhdiouf5617 the jedi had it coming, the rest of the space dudes not tho
The story telling is incredible. These modern day writers can’t hold a candle
@@LukasOfTheLight the prequels are great
bruh
@@LukasOfTheLight it is a good film.
@@LukasOfTheLight phantom menace has good story but bad execution.
@@LukasOfTheLight the story of the prequels was pretty good but the deliverance, pacing, and the writing was bad. The idea of anakin going through journeys with kenobi, learning more about the emperor, witnessing anakin struggling with the dark side of the force, leading more about the Jedi, and watching kenobi story was pretty awesome. However, I will agree that their dialogues, acting, deliverance, and even some part of the story were extremely awful. George Lucas as a director is not his strong suit, but the concept of the prequels was still top notch.
See Disney!!! Just listen to the man who built Star Wars. Anakin is the chosen one. No one else can be!
Disney never said Anakin wasn't the chosen one
@@techno639 Will with the movie they did. Rey was the one that brought balance to the force in the end. If rey was the one to end the sith then she is the chosen one not anakin. And its so dumb, because it always anakin star wars is all about anakin and the skywalkers.
@@user-vz2ot7cj5u Well technically it was also all the Jedi which includes Anakin, Luke, Obi Wan, Yoda, Qui Gon, Mace Windu, Ahsoka and Kanan so it wasn't just her
Disney didn't change that fact, he still brought balance, y'all always want something to be mad about
@@dylpickle0927 Like techno said, it wasnt anakin anymore. It was rey and all the jedi. So were no just hating for no reason.
Miss the days when movies were made like this, with passion and originality.
It was always Anakin...
Through the Force, Luke was either used as a fail-safe option or as the final lesson that Anakin needed to learn depending on how you view the situation... essentially Free Will vs Destiny and all that jazz but it doesn't really matter... Because the core motivational force behind everything that Anakin did was always "the Fear of Loss" which first began with Losing his Mother. Then it was the Fear of Losing Padme that made him fall to the Dark. But it was also the Fear of Losing his Son that eventually made him rise back to the Light again. Throughout his long journey Anakin tried so hard to acquire all the power he could in order to protect those he cared about and to never lose them and at first this sounds noble or at the very least relatable. But in doing so he was led astray and taught to believe by Sidious (essentially the Devil) that only a person that can control everything can have any real impact. But this is a lie and is ultimately a path that can only lead to despair. It's only though self sacrifice for the greater good and letting go of trying to control everything that we are able to have the greatest positive impact on those we Love. And Anakin had to spend years in the Dark and in hellish torment to eventually understand that harsh lesson.
The whole concept of "The Chosen One" (in every meaningful story created from Neo, Harry Potter, Jesus, etc.) is that they are never meant to walk an easy path. They have to suffer. There's no way around it. It's the only way in which life's greatest lessons and their own personal transcendence can be obtained.
this deserves to be pinned at the top by the poster of this video; great job on explaining the deeper meaning of Star Wars, brother. Well done
Agree with previous comment, this should be pinned. Great explanation of the underlying concept of The Chosen One and great examples to boot 👍
That was motivating. Great explanation.
The final lesson fit perfect.
Agreed, this needs to be pinned.
Ten years later, Kathleen Kennedy throws this whole concept in the dumpster.
And shits on George Lucas and his vision
FUCK Kathleen Kennedy. When she makes her own epic saga she can do what the eff she wants with it. Until then...
@@NeidalRuekk she did make her own epic saga. It's called episode 7-9
@@thetaytheist Epic saga? I've seen more epic sagas come out of Naboo's swamps!
@@thetaytheist Pfffttt!! Bwahahaw!!!!!
I always loved Luke's conversation with Vader on Endor
Something about the big bad and big good coming together to just have a genuine talk before moving on to the inevitable always gets me.
Also because of how Vader for maybe once in his life doesn't intimidate or force or manipulate but just tries to convince Luke back as well as not mocking or trivialising Luke's thoughts and feelings, gets him to rethink instead.
Star Wars is not the same without George
"LOL Anakin's entire story meant nothing at all, Rey is the Chosen One."
- the writers of the Disney fan fiction series
Underrated comment
Butchered in that trilogy. Ruined it.
Anakin is the chosen one
I'm confused, where did it say Rey's the chosen one at?
@@DarthUchiha91 Disney robbed Anakin (and all other Star Wars characters) of his achievements so that they could give them to Rey. Anakin was supposed to destroy the Sith and bring balance to the Force, but they retconned Sidious back to life.
@@B463L If that's all it takes, then the Legends canon robbed Anakin of his chosen one status already. Unless that's considered fanfiction.
I always theorized that after Anakin was shown his future, his memory wasn't erased and he did it all for his son.
When was he shown his future
@@idkfortheday in the cartoons, clone wars
@@idkfortheday mortis arc The Clone wars
didn't he somehow forget or was made to forget?
@@AngelHernandez-tn4re the "Father" character in the cartoons made Anakin forget.
Anakin is The Chosen One😍😍
Nope... Luke is... it's canon now... accept it.
Guess what, no one is, anymore.
Joe Gray nope anakin is the one. Accept it.
Nope... Luke is the chosen one... It's canon!
Joe Gray no Anakin is The one! Its canon! Confirmed by george and the clone wars. Accept.
This is how it is meant to work, a complete story from beginning to end.
The Saga has such a deep emotional connection with me it’s impossible to put into words. The greatest film ever made.
If George said it, then that settles it. The prophecy is true and we were right all along. Maybe they should brush up on their general education, the art of storytelling, and star wars history.
Luke IS the chosen one... It's 100% canon now. Just accept it.
Daz Skywalker92 its canon... Learn to like it.
Joe Gray nope anakin is the chosen one period.
Devin Brown nope... Its canon... Luke is the chosen one. Why do you George Lucas fan boys have such a hard time accepting it.
Joe Gray first off i hate the shitty prequels second no where else besides rebels does it say luke is the chosen one anakin being the chosen one is still offical canon how can he not be the whole saga revoles around him Give me proof of this claim.
Who’s watching this after seeing Rise of skywalker
Crazy bs man
Me.
Me, and after watching this i'm more inclined to think that ros is worse then tlj. By bringing sidious back they ruined everything that original trilogy and prequels had established. And they don't even explain how he came back, so basically they could bring him back again? Episode10: "I'm back bitches...again"
@@mychaellytvyn5100 Adding on to that. why couldnt any jedi figure out how to force heal like Ray and Kylo. Cause if they did Anakins Fall is completly pointless. He wouldnt need the darkside.
This is what I needed to hear
Masterpiece. These six movies will be long remembered, while the Disney output will fade into memory, the substandard, corporate byproduct of better times and greater imagination.
Well said.
I wish it were true but Disney will keep pumping out more shows and movies and shows and movies that eventually, generations will come and go having been introduced to star wars ONLY through their garbage content.
That's why they don't care that people reject their trash and call their new stories terrible. The goal is just to make a giant wall of content that ignore Lucas' cannon and keeps people subscribed and buying merch.
Very well put. That's how I deal with Disney's take on Star Wars. I just tell myself, "As far as I'm concerned, the story ended with Episode 6!! However, I really liked Rogue One!!
The prequels arw absolute shit. The only reason anyone is praising them now is because people hates the Disney ones so in their weak minds suddenly the prequels were great. They are trash. An abomination in terms of movie making. The original trilogy will live on forever and in time the prequels will be relegated back to the shit pile they came from with the Disney trilogy.
And this is why the sequel trilogy is fan fiction: Darth Vader's sacrifice meant next to nothing in the grand scheme of things
Well I guess you could qualify it like Palpatine is SO powerful that it was a necessary setback for him but it still took more to defeat him.
@@nossenkanter ehh, it still takes all the power away.
Disney bought Star Wars to profit off of stupid people, the end.
@@nossenkanter except that renders the prophecy of the chosen one as complete garbage. And renders basically the story of Star Wars (ie: the story of Anakin Skywalker) as complete garbage.
Disneys sequels exist for one reason. It wasn't to complete the story. Because the story was complete. They exist because Money.
Just to add, Palpatine was thrown down into a reactor. That Death Star then proceeds to explode. In space.
Disney: "Somehow, Palpatine has returned"
@@nossenkanter George Lucas' own ex wife who was just as much part of creating Star Wars as George himself said in her own book that she was furious and in tears over what Disney did with her characters and world even from Force Awakens. George himself said that his ideas for the sequels were discarded by Disney. Whether you like the sequels or not; they are not true to the original saga or the vision of its actual creators
@A Guy he brought back the flow of the force that the siths were trying to build a dam to control everything. If they won, there wouldnt be a flow to the force for rey to harness as sith would control the flow of the force. aka no balance. think of it as a river. jedis flow through it, letting it guide them. siths harness the flow, and control it.
It’s crazy that people just blatantly deny what the creator of a fictional piece says about his own creation. This is just as bad as when some people deny that Luke and Anakin have the same potential, when George Lucas clearly stated it.
Ikr ? Its ridiculous
Would anakin not have more potential? Due to him being made through the force thing
@@GB1510-yt well I mean Luke is a direct offspring of someone made directly from the force plus Lucas literally stated that they have the same potential so there is no denying it.
@@GB1510-yt I like to think of it like they have the same potential but luke wouldn’t reach his maximum potential like anakin did because he doesn’t utilize both sides of the force. But I’m a super new SW fan so I don’t know if that is true or not.
@@chanda3171 yeah it isn’t true but that would be a good theory if Lucas didn’t confirm that they have same potential and that Luke became what Anakin could not.
George Lucas has incredible creativity, a strong imagination, and a passion for telling stories.
Something Lucasfilm these days lacks entirely.
He was for the first three, he wasn't for the prequels and he cannot direct edit or scripwrite but as an ideas man he is great although he does borrow heavilly from other sci fi books but who doesn't.
@@jonesfamily4326 The overwhelming majority of the problems with the prequels go away if you just fix the dialogue and have good actors to deliver it. That's really the only thing holding them back, assuming you can handle the oversaturation of 2000s CGI.
@@jonesfamily4326 i wouldn't say he's a bad director but i agree with the script part lol though the story was good it was just the dialogue that was bad
@dextercochran4916 the actors were good. It's really just the dialogue. Hayden is a good actor he just got the cringiest lines George could think of. And everyone else in the movies were amazing. Ewan McGregor, Liam Neeson, Sam L Jackson, Ian McDiarmid and basically everyone else was amazing. The diologue is the culprit not the actors.
I honestly feel like there’s a lot of layers to this trilogy as far as structure goes. The three act structure can be split between the movies like this
Act 1: Ep1-2
Act 2: Ep3-5
Act 3: Ep6
I thought it was like this:
Act 1: Episodes 1-3
Act 2: Episodes 4-6
Act 3: Episodes 7-9
techno639 what’s 7-9? There’s only 6 skywalker saga movies.
@@SuperD00D Ok you're one of those people fine then enjoy your headcanon
techno639 my “headcanon”? George Lucas, creator of Star Wars, would like a word.
m.th-cam.com/video/xgBpoiC8qGA/w-d-xo.html
techno639 act 2 ends at a low point in the three act structure. Act 1 and 3 are roughly 25% of the story each whole act 2 is 50%. Splitting them equally doesn’t work. Also 7-9 is too far separated from the prequels to work in that way, aside from the last minute inclusion of palpatine
This pretty much makes the sequels completely noncanon fanfiction by official standards. George himself confirmed that Palpatine died and Anakin was the Chosen One. The sequels undermined both of those things with both Rey and Palpatine.
Palpatine didn't die by anakin in legends canon either.
@@DarthUchiha91 physically he did die. Soul wise it still took him a good while to transfer into one of his clones. And even then you saw how quickly his own soul began to destroy the clone body. The thing people forgetting bout balance, it never STAYS balanced forever. The fact people are complaining bout palpatine "surviving" Ep6 into the legends story is like people denying the fact that becoming a force ghost isnt immortality despite them saying thats a way to become immortal. Palpatine just used the dark version of the same end result.
But somehow... he returned.
@@DarthUchiha91 legends was never canon at all anyway. George also said that Clone Wars, the Prequels, and Original Trilogy were canon because he worked on them.
This is before he sold it so now anything George says is actually "fanfiction" by your logic
Everytime that you see Hayden talking about Vader or Anakin, you see that he is the chosen one for this character. He trully understands him
Imagine how anxious George Lucas was to let people know the story behind Episode I to III and had to wait all those years for it.
I wasn’t a huge fan of the Star Wars prequels, but adding the prophecy was such a smart and artistically sensitive move. The prophecy is basically forgotten about by all the characters over time, and by the time Vader redeems himself the audience is the only one remembering it. It makes Vader’s last moments so much more emotionally tender, to see him fulfil his destiny even after so much violence and bloodshed.
What an amazing arc
George Lucas: He is the chosen one!
Disney(brings Palpatine back): Hold my beer!
I wish ep 7 never happened.
Xlen Omega We all do buddy, We all do...... and now we DAMN sure wish Ep8 didn't exist, more so than Ep7. At least Abrams somewhat knew what he was doing, Rian Johnson had no idea what HE was doing at all. He didn't even know how to make a Star Wars film even FEEL like a Star Wars film at all. It was horrible. It had a couple pretty cool parts and action scenes yea, but the movie itself overall and the whole storyline is just flat out horrible in every way.
not me tho i liked ep7, rogue one and ep8! Disney is doing good with star wars so far. We got star wars rebels which btw is a great show. I'm fully star wars fan! i like everything star wars related. (well not everything cough... jar jar...)
@@darkpro0031 no disney is ruining star wars
@@FigFirearms opinions kid
I wish 1-3 never happened.
Such a satisfying story. I'm glad they never made any sequels after the sixth film.
Whenever an OT fanboy says LuKe Is ThE cHoSeN oNe, I send them to this video.
Well, you will have to contend with the fans of Rey now. If there are any. She is the chosen one in the new film. To do what Anakin didn't do. Which is ludicrous
@@nthdegree1269 Yes there are and its hard arguing with them about this they just say thats not canon. Rey is not the chosen one!
Man I hate the disney trilogy
I’ve literally never heard an “OT fanboy” declare Luke to be the chosen one; there is no mention of a chosen one in the OT to begin with. I think it’s pretty much universally understood to be Anakin (or at least it _was,_ then Rey came along...)
@@unpopularopinions7407 Rebels... Obi Wan said Luke was the chosen one since he tought Anakin was gone forever. So some OT fanboys say that Obi Wan was right. They also say that without Luke saving his father the emperor would still be alive there for Luke is the chosen one. But then I just say but without Anakin Luke wouldn't even exist.
Luke Skywalker is truly the only character who could save Darth Vader. The way he always looks for the good in people is really special.
Final words of padme "there's good in him" final words of Anakin "you were right"
Anakin will always be my favorite character
Anakin Skywalker/Darth Vader will always be my favourite hero. To me, he represents the very core of the human being: The immense good and love we're capable of, the suffering we face and sometimes are crushed by, the desire to be free to choose, the drive to serve a higher purpose, the evil that knows no boundaries, the venegefulness we fight but often fall prey to, the loss we cannot escape, the sadness and anger that consume us like fire, the ability to change and find a way back to our hurt heart. Anakin Skywalker is that all and more, all that represents humanity. He is both the greatest failure and the greatest success in the world. That's why he's my favourite hero, and that's why he's the Chosen One.
What’s truly sad is that anakin from birth was given a burden so heavy that not only did it cost him his love ones but his own self in which he gave in to evil only to be saved by his own son such a tragic yet beautiful story Lucas created.
At the very end of his life, Anakin did bring balance to the force. He was destined to. Even the injury no one else would've survived Anakin did survive, probably by the will of the Force itself. And so, he redeemed himself and fulfilled the final destiny of his life.
That's what makes the entire CANON SAGA perfect. I mean, episodes 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 and 6. =)
Anakin lost everything, his wife, his body, his health, all he had was anger. He couldn't start a new family, he could only focus on his "job". Thats so good story. Everything about anakin is so great, that every other story seams boring. It's really hard to one-up that. Every other bad SW movie, makes anakin story greater.
There are two things that so many Star Wars fans fundamentally misunderstand and it skews their entire perception of the saga. But these are facts and they need to be understood.
*1. Anakin was the Chosen One.* He always was and always will be (which is a serious critique of what the sequels later did)
*2. He did not bring balance to the Force in Revenge of the Sith, he did it in Return of the Jedi.* Too many people think balance in the Force is equality between the Jedi and Sith but that was never true.
Lucas always treated the Dark Side as a corruption of the Force, where balance can only be achieved if the corruption is destroyed. In this case, balance means harmony and you can only have harmony when the unbalance Sith aren't destroying, controlling, and manipulating everything. It's like a human body, is the body balanced when you eat heathy foods and poison in equal amounts? No. The most balance you can have is when you only eat healthy food.
When Anakin helped destroy the Jedi, he threw the Force into an imbalance. But the surprise was that in the end, he established balance by destroying the Sith. That's why the happy ending is when Luke, the only Force user left, is a Jedi. The Force is balanced when only the Jedi exist, that is the balance Lucas always talked about the films reflect this.
agree
This is a well thought out take, but I disagree. The thing is, the prequels and OT both show us that neither the Jedi nor the Sith are very good. They both try to manipulate and use Anakin and Luke. Thats why Anakin fell. He needed trust and love and etc. and the Jedi failed him while looking out for their own ends. Obi Wan and Yoda did the same to Luke.
We see this in ROTJ. From the very beginning, Luke is walking a super fine line between dark and light. He's dressed in all black, he's cocky and brash in his approach to Jabba, hell...he even force chokes Gamoreans. That is 100% a Sith move. But he's also still a good guy doing good things. Morally gray you might call it. Then, at the end, when goaded by the Emperor and Vader, Luke loses it and hits Vader with a Wolverine style Berzerker Barrage which results in Vader beaten down and his hand cut off. Full on dark side rage. The emporer cheers and Luke realizes what he's done. He seees his fathers robot hand and then his own. Its at this moment, when Luke says NO, throws down his sword and denies the Emporer what he wants, that Anakin understands.
Palpatine tortures Luke and he begs his father for help, and Anakin can take it no longer, tosses Palps and saves Luke. Here at the end, all Jedi are dead (taking ONLY the movies Canon into account) and all Sith are dead, leaving Luke. The only one who managed to find the balance between dark and light. To me, this says Anakin brought about the balance, and Luke is the representation of said balance.
I knew it! What i loved about these films is the way it narrated the chosen one story line and how Anakin did prove to be the chosen one but not going through the journey we all assumed or expected, love it when story lines go against the norm
This is why anikins/vaders story is my favorite of all of scifi . It’s rare when the chosen one or hero of a story becomes evil and is later redeemed with such a twist.
He understood that vader was our favourite, that's why.
Anyone else just now seeing this video after 13 years of it existing
Anakin to Rey: Take a seat.
Rey: This is outrageous! Misogynist! Unfair! You're a monster!
We do not grant her the rank of Skywalker
and then ten years later she files a sexual assault charge against anakin. now darth vader he force crushes the paperwork.
@@shaunhumphreys6714 Now you laugh, but if Disney approves it's canon.
@@fuehwbdb3765 true .and Disney or should I say Kathleen Kennedy who has become Disney does approve this cannon and even has I believe pushed the creator of star wars original and prequel trilogy off the set of Obi wan Kenobi series..star wars was being rescued by the mandorian series under the stewardship of someone who actually understands and loves star wars. its lore and fanbase.which is more majority men. But actually speak to women who love star wars i.e one of my best friends from high school,who also was nerdy dungeon and dragons type and she will tell anyone she doesn't want Mary sues i.e Rey and Kathleen Kennedy patronising her rather strong characters. with strong character arc and strong main plot with a few interesting subplots taken from existing legends lore i.e legends is canon,middle finger Kathleen.
@@fuehwbdb3765 p.s just get rid of Kathleen Kennedy and Disney problem mostly solved.she is so toxic.she's mercury and uranium all in one. rogue one was also a star wars mini recovery and george Lucas really liked it.plus force awakens was just lacking in originality with Rey following same plot as Luke the seeming nobody on desert planet.however it was beautifully shot from the very first long shot of the landscape and then Rey scavenging metal for food.the production values of JJ Abrams were superb for awakens.e.g location shooting,insisting on using same sets as original trilogy.so JJ Abrams is more influential on force awakens but Abrams is huge Spielberg fan and he just nostalgically recreates seventies and eighties era e.g his super eight sci fi film. Kathleen's claws still got into force awakens however by making Rey straight away able to best a storm trooper and kylo the grandson of Darth Vader at light saber dueling at first attempt.the mary Sue. If not for that no for beating kylo at light saber duel ,no major issues with force awakens.and most fans loved it and then said how the prequels were so bad .but then after the last jedi they changed their mind saying they wished for the prequels and that both sequels were terrible, really the force awakens was nostalgically safe,it was nice and JJ Abrams is at fault for giving up the last Jedi to a new director who dismissed and scrapped JJ Abrams existing script for his own radical version which we got in the cinema ,the most hated film of a fanbase in recent times .why did abrams give it up??
George: "So the prophecy IS true."
Obi-Wan: "From a certain point of view."
Seeing in Lucas' eyes, it's such a beautiful story.
This video:
JJ Abrams, Kathleen Kennedy, Bob Igear, and Rian Johnson: *We about to end this man’s whole career.*
George: *looks upon his entire estate, legacy, and self-satisfaction from creating a six-story saga that everyone loves and completely outshines 7, 8, & 9* Uno Reverse Card
The whole thing started due to a little bit of sand he had in his shoe… he explained in a compelling way how he felt about it. So moving.
I like Hayden Describing Anakin/Vader at the end. Always loved him cuz he understands The Character. Like Mark Hamill with Luke..
Whenever someone tells me Anakin isn't the Chosen One, I just copy this link and all they have to do is click. However, now that Disney owns it they have the legal right to change that. It depends on how you look at it. Do you trust the man who created the whole Star Wars universe and the story? Or do you trust those who can tell the story simply because they bought it? Then, you have those who will adhere to fan fiction. For example, the fan remake of Darth Vader vs Obi-Wan Kenobi I want to consider as canon. 😂 You can believe whatever you want. At the end of the day, it's just a story and no one should get bent out of shape over something that isn't real. Celebrate the fact that Lucas gave this to us in the first place and show the man some respect.
Eric Neely I say Lucas has the final say regardless, if you really hate the Disney movies. You can just think of 1-6 as a finishe story, and ignore 7-9
@@SuperD00D The Sequels really defeated the purpose of 1-6. 🤦♂️ This last movie really made it feel like Anakin achieved absolutely nothing.
@@ericsesame6321 It's unfortunate. Best case scenario would have been for Lucas to do the sequel trilogy before selling it to Disney, then they could have taken off from there and created stories outside of the Skywalker Saga. Instead the sale of Lucasfilm opened up interpretation of Anakin and Luke's legacies to directors and writers outside of Lucas' influence. I enjoyed the sequel trilogy and love all things Star Wars. I do think it's sad that we couldn't see Lucas' vision all the way through.
Kathleen Kennedy says no it's Rey.
@@thegooseman90 the good thing about that its that we dont give a shit for kathleen
I got that when I was an infant. How exactly did Luke bring balance to the force? He said he wasn't going to fight. How did he defeat the Sith?
Anakin did it! Not luke!
Luke brought Anakin back
Luke brought Anakin back that's why people thought it was him he got him to become Anakin again and kill the emperor and up until I saw this I thought it was luke too because he was too pure and wise like obi-wan and yoda
@@angelothompson186 he was too pure because he never faced the hypocrisy of the Jedi Council which Anakin did, tbh, even Luke would have snapped out if he was in Anakin's place.
Because he threw Vader down that shaft
Bringing back Palpatine was the biggest F you to this story line and it pisses me off so much
Because Disney pretty much made episode 1-6 pointless now.
Right!!
7-9 is just bad corporate fan fiction.
@@crimesweepersthewebseries3385 Are you implying that fan fiction can't be good?
@@gamestation2690 Fan fiction can be good. Not the case with the sequels.
@@curupa66 I wouldn’t even call it fan fiction. The people who made those movies aren’t really fans of Star Wars.
It's funny how Disney completely destroyed George Lucas idea.
"Somehow Palpatine returned"
lmfao
Anakin: Am I a joke to u?
Thats why the sequels and not canon.
Even legends is more canon than the sequels.
Disney destroyed George Lucas idea, but Legends canon didn't? Where did you think the idea of Palpatine's survival came from?
@@DarthUchiha91 At least it was explained in legends how he returned and not "somehow Palpatine returned" smh
@@vini-ix8yt Indeed, that's what happens when movies aren't made with some actual thought. Palpatine surviving was stupid then, and it's stupid now.
gives me goosebumps
These behind the scene documentaries and videos are more entertaining than the sequel trilogy 😂
This makes sense and this is how it should be. It is so crazy that later i though i was the chosen one.
This is the story of star wars.
The sequels gave me the feeling nobody working on those films, SW is not about space ships and light sabers, but about the emotional conflict with in characters like anakin skywalker
REMEMBER THIS ABRAMS
He did not.
I like to think Anakin had the power to fulfill the prophecy on a galactic level. Not just the relational one between Jedi and Sith force users. Anakin’s godlike connection to the Force, respect as a military leader and state royalty status through marriage to Padme primed him to have ushered in a galactic era. In the end, I think the Prophecy was still “technically” fulfilled - but on a much smaller scale in ways that Palpatine altered forever. Luke was able to salvage the small glimmer of Anakin left to fulfill the prophecy. The Jedi really let Anakin down and it cost the entire order, Republic, and galaxy dearly. Lucas wrote a masterpiece of a tragedy that manages to also be hopeful. Just my 2 cents.
i love this part in the special features of episode 3. good behind the scenes commentary.
I wonder what Palpatine thought of that prophecy.
he was afraid because anakin was the strongest of them all in the force even Yoda. that is why Yoda feared for his future. so Palpatine had to manipulate him and get him to the dark side.
but that was the whole prophecy, that Palpatine didn't get. Yoda didn't want to believe anakin was the chosen one because he feared that what if the prophecy change patterns and the sith once rule again and anakin didn't bring balance to the force whether he was dark side or not.
but it did come true because of his son Luke. once Vader destroyed Darth Sidious, sith no longer exist anymore because there is not rule of one. there is must be a dark lord of the sith for sith to exist. that is why Kylo Ren wants to contine.
when they said bring balance to the force meaning to destroy the sith so they can never exist.
Balance is not between light and dark. Light and dark, good and evil, they're all just words. You can't have balance between vocabulary.
Balance is between life and death. Life creates the force, so preserving life strengthens the force. The Jedi protect all life and accept death, preserving the balance between the two. The Sith destroy life for self-gain and power, and they defy death for selfish reasons, as Anakin did, which disrupts the balance.
That's the real and tangible balance that the films are referring to, not some simplistic and intangible notion of "light" and "dark."
I mean, he brought balance to the force, just not in the way everyone, including the Jedi, expected. He killed almost all the Jedi and then killed Sidious. Force balanced
Except for luke, the ultimate jedi. The prophecy was destroy the sith, not end the conflict by destroying the two polls. One side, the sith destroys everything no matter what, the jedi only fight the sith and cause destruction if the sith are around. Balance, peace, only comes from destroying the sith.
@@Aceshot-uu7yx and he did destroy the sith, as george lucas says in the video. he kills palpatine and then himself. luke isn't the chosen one, he never was, never will be.
@@infect6521 I'm saying luke, the strongest jedi, survives so the balance of the force is the jedi winning. No chosen one was mentioned.
To fight fire with fire, perfect quote for Anakin Skywalker. Sometimes you need power to fight powerful people, having good moral doesn't help.
I see Luke as the one who saved the Chosen One, because without Luke, Anakin would never have stopped the Emperor by himself
And without Anakin, Luke wouldn’t be here
Without Anakin luke was dead. If the sith Apprentice wasn’t his dad… he would have died.
Imagine having your saga torn to shatters by a strong wahman adopting the Skywalker name like it's nothing
Cosmicgoatee cant believe they’ve done this
It’s a slap in the face.
@@Parallel_ Believe it. Disney is ruthless, they do not care about Lucas. Matter of fact, I truly believe that they resent him. They're jealous of the fact that he was once practically independent, while they are all slaves to the system.
@@awakenow7147 That's what I've been saying all along !!! George is a self made man, that created something legendary. Out of jealousy they ruined his creation.
@@AlexYBITW It really does seem like that. The decisions that they made for the sequel stories just feel like pure spite. I mean...really? A Palpatine adopting the Skywalker name? I feel like we're in an alternate universe right now.
imagine having a trilogy about darth vader that are between 4,5,6. secrets things he do for good(anakin side of him showing up here and there), some flashback when he lost everything, the struggle of being evil and justify it by his loss, etc etc, man that would be amazing.
But everything changed when Disney attacked... And somehow Palpatine returned
EXACTLY George please come back and save star wars remake the sequels even it their crap I'd rather watch his version then Disney's shit trilogy all Disney's version is just fan fiction lmao
@@OkamiVtuber it’s not somehow he returned. The Jedi can turn into force ghosts. Some can heal. Some can’t. The dark side is always stronger because it is more about controlling the force for personal gains. the light side is about letting the force be as it should be. the idea is some dark force users will be able to return. When he returned he was not as strong as when we last saw him. Rey had to have help from every single force ghost to defeat him.
EXACTLY… not at all. The force you know not. Learn more. You’re only looking at what you remember not the complete picture. Watch it all again. but realize light side was always weaker. they turn into jedi ghosts. The stronger force allows for some to return. Just like…. Some jedi can heal, some can’t.
that actor really was perfect as anakin skywalker especially in revenge of the sith. brw as much as people knock lucas's prequel trilogy, the revenge of the sith is an amazing film. the downfall of anakin is deeply disturbing and utterly relatable.he is a man madly in love, and cant beat to lose her. this is where the problems with the light side of the force appear. where the jedi ban all amotion. anakin is even ordered by yoda to not grieve or even miss his mother who has just been killed. yoda is the worst at the emotional repression theology. balancing the force means among other things embracing emotion and stopping the ban on jedis getting married and having children. the jedi order is analogous to roman catholic monk orders. very similar. anakin may never have turned into darth vader if he had not been properly counselled, if he had been allowed to express his emotion, allowed to grieve, if his romance had been allowed. obi wan is at least far more affectionate towards anakin, treating him as his brother, and we see how emotional he gets after being forced to cut anakin into several pieces with his lightsaber in their final duel at the end of revenge of the sith.
The child-parent relationship was probably the only thing that could get through to Anakin/Vader's core and really make him human again. Luke and Leia were what remained of Padme and his old self
I think it should be included that anakin was involved in destroying the corrupted jedi order. Only the ones that were truly strong with the force survived till the end. So I do say he did bring balance
Not to mention that the Jedi Order had become a rather corrupt shell of its former self. I'd like to think that bringing balance to the force also meant stripping down that institution (ala Order 66), something the Jedi Order never realized. Given that Luke is a complete subversion of the Jedi's dogmatic teachings (has attachments to his friends, proves that it's possible to bring someone who's turned to darkside back to the light) I'd like to believe the prophecy also involves a new era of Jedi that won't repeat the mistakes of the Republic-era Order (Disney's sequel trilogy is not canon in my mind).
Here after The Rise of Skywalker!
Yes now ray is supposed to be the chosen one😪😥
Craig Not at all Anakin still is in the film he says “Now bring balance to the force as I have Rey” He will always be the chosen one Rey couldn’t beat Palpatine alone she had all the power of the Jedi inside of her in that moment. The only reason she was able to defeat him is because she had the bloodline of Palpy and the Chosen one was inside of her too.
@@optimal9126 and she was too overpowered
Craig Well she is a Palpatine so that makes a lot of sense. As well as having the Jedi within her at the Palpy fight as well.
@@optimal9126 Anakin destroyed Sidious already. Her destroying what was destroyed makes no sense. In fact, its stupid.
The true chosen one is the friends we made along the way.
yep, always has been, always will be. luke isn’t the chosen one, luke is the balance that vader brought to the force. and in the end, that balance aided him in destroying the sith. smart shit, eh? really admire this kind of stuff with lucas’s storytelling.
i dont think luke was the balance of it. i think its more like a river and the jedi just flow through it, let it guide them through for the will of the force. but the sith want to control the flow of the force for themselves. but yes luke was the connection anakin needed to get back to the flow. but luke would have most likely died if it wasnt his dad. and then the sith would have taken control of the forces path. potentially ppl that would have had force abblities, wouldnt or just be weaker.
Like uses both sides as seen in ROJ he is balanced especially compared to the old jedi.
I always just assumed that "bringing balance to the force" when the light side was so much stronger than the dark was just something the jedi didn't think through.
The light side is stronger but the dark fights and causes turmoil by existing. The dark will destroy no matter what, the jedi fight that destruction and if the dark is not present than there is peace. The only connection between evil in the force and the suffering caused by the jedi is the sith.
@@Aceshot-uu7yx That's not quite what 'balance' means.
@@shellfire6931 it was what george said. You can argue semantics on meening but it was what he wrote it as. We could be here all day or except that the balance he was talking about was the force being at peace. Something that could only be achieved by removing the sith.
@@Aceshot-uu7yx This isn't semantics, this is literally the definition of the word. Also, the prophecy didn't say 'bring peace to the force.' It said 'bring balance to the force.'
@@shellfire6931 literally what george said was light winning was balance as the force will no longer be in turmoil, the sith clause turmoil and removing it is balance. In Buddhism desires are what cause samsara nirvana is achieved from cutting the desires out, desires do not coexist with virtue it must be removed to achieve in balance, remove the source of disruption and everything is calm. When you have a problem you remove what's causing the problem not balance it with what is not causing problems.
He had a life of light, and dark. True balance.
I LOVE ANAKIN MORE THAN LUKE
Anakin was the best character, Lucas wrote him to be the best
Agree. Might be my favorite character even outside of Star Wars.
favorite character star wars list
1. Anakin/ Darth Vader (pre suit
2. obi wan(prequel)
3. Darth vader( with suit)
4. Luke
5. qui gon jin
wenseslaus dasepta there’s some vid that’s says why the council didn’t trust anakin and this guy said that Luke is the chosen one Luke was only able to turn him back to the light
You are all showing your age and lack of maturity. They are one, the father is nothing without the son, and the son is nothing without the father. And you are missing what made all these films great. But I will gift you this. th-cam.com/video/-2BNdF_NCVQ/w-d-xo.html .
whe should all download a copy of this just in case. if disney tries to say rey is the chosen one, we should mail them this on sd cards, usb drives, even on dvd or vhs.