@@tigger1662003I think he also had a young married couple living with him and the husband was an LFB firefighter and as you said told Jack many a tale to inspire him.
@@PibrochPonder and remember on station...could be tough especially when tied to a short extension ladder being blasted with a hose reel...different times...
I was a Police Officer 1986-2016, the Fire Brigade were the emergency service that you could always trust to get the job done. Thank you sir. Hope you found your spectacles.
I was Blue Watch, Delta 2, Brierley Hill West Midlands. 1976 to 1978 then moved to NSW and rejoined there. So many memories watching this....great days and great friends made for life.
My uncle worked at Delta 1 Oldbury, Delta 8 west Bromwich and Echo 9 Wednesbury when I was a kid in the 80s/90's. He then became Sub officer and moved over to Highgate in Birmingham. No longer with us, but remember him fondly.
@@TheWeepingDalek Because the fire service is a semi disciplined organisation not a commercial business. The rank to role was fine as it was now you have two separate pay grades and ranks with same rank markings. All very confusing and makes for far too many white hats at fires. All this was dreamt up by some overpaid commercial company employed to 'professionalise' the fire service and made a right balls up of it.
i was at an accident a month ago and had to go under the car to check on a man, who had been killed instantly. the memory of that lived with me for a month. theese guys see that maybe once every couple of months. they must hold a lot of bad memories. true gentlemen.
Remember turning out in the Dodges ..... they used to sway into the corners. Ours also had a cold start like a choke and use to over rev...sacred going through traffic lights
I was in Essex fire brigade some years ago, until they rebranded it as a fire and rescue service. Started on a machine with a wooden 105 ladder, and was soon on a 135 ladder. We even had a wheeled escape for one day, why? Because our appliance caught fire (whilst at a shout). I really feel for them when they are searching wearing BA, when you actually find someone in a fire it's devastating! 64 now, I would go back and do it all again if I could.
wow when was this aired? this came as a recommended video but glad i watched it. love the fact its come from the fire fighters involved. no over the top narations or silly incidental music masking dialogue etc. not like documentaries today
Absolutely. Couldnt agree more. Wouldn't I like to meet the grade one plonka that decided plastering 'music' across everything end to end and have a word with him.
Doesn't take much to cause a lot of smoke. Went on a single story house with thick black smoke banked right to the floor. The home owner came home from a days work to find this. Turned out there was no fire. She had left the stove on low with a frying pan on that burner. In that frying pan she had left the all plastic spatula that she used that morning. That 1 spatula created enough smoke to fill the entry house with smoke so thick I could not see my hand in front of my face. Incredible really. After discovering this we just PPV the structure and called it a day.
The engine voice of Dodge fire engine remind me those truck had been used for goods lorries and the tankers but never used in fire service in Hong Kong while HKFSD wildly used Dennis on that time but also used Perkins engine, probably same engine had been used on Dodge?
It is ok to be scared of something. It only becomes a problem when you act on those fears. Know lots of firefighter who hate small spaces, hate heights but its no problem. You be in charge of yourself and never give into your fears or they will control you.
my input to this 'that tea was piss weak' Respect to all emergency workers and those who support them, and drivers, move out of the fscking way, that could be your family member
the electrical intake cupboard, scary as hell, if it was a thicc cable hopefully it took out the substation fuses. smaller cables will just continuously explode... scary af, respect to the fire brigade from a sparky
The stuff about the newbie down at the police station wouldn't happen now. There would be enquiries done, people suspended and sacked. Then people would have to talk to councillors ect. The same happened when I was in the Royal Navy. All the fun was taken out.
Funny how times change, what was considered “banter” is now bullying, what was a practical joke is now hazing. Even when this was filmed, the practice of mickey taking & jokes was under scrutiny, hence the down playing of it in the film. I think there was a probationary fire fighter that died around this time as a result of being tied to a ladder & being suspended over a water pool, the ladder fell in one end & he drowned. This era of the fire service was a tough one ! Everyone had highly flammable furniture & almost everyone smoked ! Terrible combination.
Knw quite a few firefighters through my lifesaving work with stjohn ambulance have been in some tricky situations bt nothing compared to what the fire brigade have to face risking their lives .nothing but respect for all of them.
That Dennis has the code name brave 301/302 which is 5 of bravo 251 and bravo 252 the call signs for the plot applicationes for blackwall in London's burning
I thought the same thing! LOL. Wouldn't last a minute these days. Seems they mostly use a trashline. What I wonder is ....I never saw a single firefighter use gloves. Certainly they must have had them back then! Those were the days. Time to come out of the structure when your ears start to burn.
General purpose gloves were issued to everyone in my brigade, Greater Manchester. High pressure hose reels are by far the most used extinguishing tool. A high pressure hose reel can deal perfectly well with a single room fire, even if well alight and two hose reels deals with most domestic dwelling fires and car fires. The big advantage is their high pressure, 150psi and their ready use, always ready charged with water. Water is on the fire in seconds. You also only need pull of as much as you need, no kinks and easy to handle. It mystifies me why the USA doesn't use them to the same extent. The Dutch fire service has gone one better with larger diameter reels and fire suppressing chemicals. A ultra high pressure lance is now the common tool for house fires. It suppresses the fire after cutting a hole in even brick exterior walls. Fire is suppressed and cooled down very, quickly enabling a rapid and safe entry for BA teams. The down side is that management sem to think these innovations can replace firefighters and even reduce the number of appliances and stations which simply isn't the case. Quite frankly most brigades in the UK are dangerously under manned.
@@LindaFirefighter03Aye. Blistered ears was your badge of office back in those days of no flash hoods. The thing about flash hoods and Nomex gloves is that they resulted in quite serious burn injuries as the took away the feeling of the back of the hands and ear lobes blistering until it was too late. They have caused at least one death that I know of due to heat syncope. The body sweat simply cannot evaporate to cool you if none of your skin is exposed. It takes regular heat training to recognise the onset of heat exhaustion and if left too late it can be and has need fatal in my former brigade.
@@throttlegalsmagazineaustra7361I don't think he's wrong quite honestly and there is certainly no call for your comment. He was just stating things ashe sees it.
@@Zackislivid they were pretty good masks, you could have facial hair and the vision was great. The new ones had a better seal though and obviously didnt fog.
Chris Lates they were still fitted to Cleveland Fire Brigades engines in this period. They were deemed to be less frightening to animals than rwo-tone air horns.
Loving this documentary. I love seeing the older uniforms and equipment. I do wonder about that one driver with the really long hair and beard. I honestly would've thought grooming standards at the time were a little more severe.
Chris Whitbread Yea they were ........I stood buy there mid eighties he looked a right cock . Bit like David Seaman thought he looked great but in reality looked stupid .
At the time he joined which was probably pre 1974 there were no regulations about hair length. Those joining from '74 onwards were required to ' have a tidy haircut and the hair must not touch the collar'. Hence you has the older serving members exercising their 'long hair' rights. To be fair I saw a lot worse than that.
Hi messroomh6 You have an great collection of firefighter videos it's been so interesting to see all the difference videos Looking for a video that might have been one of your ones ? It was a video where a pump like a Bedford TK or Dennis had crashed and had to be rescued by a heavy rescue vehicle
@@messroomh6 No worries messroomh6 I just found it today it's definitely worth watch it's very interesting thanks for getting back to me I appreciate it th-cam.com/video/hHBe_jCKZCE/w-d-xo.html
@Adrian Heath They aren't as effective and the sound doesn't carry like two tone AIR horns. Electronic sirens never were as effective and that goes for two tone electronic as well.
@@Biffo1262 what about the rumbler siren they are being installed on all police cars ambulances and fire trucks in the uk now now all thats left now is to install q sirens on the firetrucks
@Adrian Heath your americans sirens cause ear loss and there not affective we have changed what you think we still fight fires in rubber and wool we have a better fire crews in the uk than the us your helmets are inpracticl your rigs are to big the uniforms are asbestos and the visor on your helmets only protect your eyes when our uniform has curved helmets microfiber fire proof tuxs we have led lights our rigs are fast and skinny and our sirens are not loud
Along with " On the Run " originated in Victorian England, even before Horse Drawn Fire Engines when some Fire ladders were pushed by hand somebody would run ahead shouting to make way for the Firemen and " On the Run" started when Fire Engines were pulled by horses, the Fire Station floor would have a slight lift so that when the steam pump was ready to go with chocks applied to the wheels, the horses would be harnessed to the pump and when the chocks were removed the weight of the Fire Engine would move on its own , meaning the horses did not need to pull against a dead weight when they left the station, the fire engine was already "On the Run" still used today meaning that an appliance is ready to go
Long before telephones some cities employed Watchmen whose job was to patrol the most dangerous parts of the city for fire. All they has was a rattle or whistle and they would run to the fire station and shout fire, fire on the way. Hence turning out on a shout!
U do a relly good job on TH-cam keep up there good work on TH-cam mate u do a relly good job on TH-cam hove a good day mate u do a relly good job on TH-cam mate hove a good day mate form greg Bouchard keep up there good work on TH-cam hove a good day mate form greg Bouchard
Respect to all of you past present ❤ thank you ❤ you do ONE HELL of a JOB . Regards and RESPECT thank you❤😊❤😊
This was very probably the inspiration for 'London's Burning'. What a fantastic show.
The inspiration was a writer called Jack Rosenthal who wrote the initial film, who used to drink in a pub with an off duty firefighter many years ago.
@@tigger1662003I think he also had a young married couple living with him and the husband was an LFB firefighter and as you said told Jack many a tale to inspire him.
I was a firefighter in the 80s tough old job...cant even find my glasses these days !
Lots of respect sir!
They are lowering the standards now to get more BAME and women in. That makes me feel nice and safe.
@@PibrochPonder and remember on station...could be tough especially when tied to a short extension ladder being blasted with a hose reel...different times...
we all know that feeling
I was a Police Officer 1986-2016, the Fire Brigade were the emergency service that you could always trust to get the job done. Thank you sir. Hope you found your spectacles.
Love the sound of those Perkins V8 so gutsy
I was Blue Watch, Delta 2, Brierley Hill West Midlands. 1976 to 1978 then moved to NSW and rejoined there. So many memories watching this....great days and great friends made for life.
My uncle worked at Delta 1 Oldbury, Delta 8 west Bromwich and Echo 9 Wednesbury when I was a kid in the 80s/90's. He then became Sub officer and moved over to Highgate in Birmingham. No longer with us, but remember him fondly.
My dad worked directly opposite Brierley Hill fire station at the hugh round oak steel works, which has since become the Merry Hill Shopping Centre.
13:07 combo of bell and two tones
I remember watching this as a child in 1983. Very gritty and insightful. Good old days, indeed.
YelpBullhorn so does my father
I was with greater Manchester county fire service for 32 years. Some fantastic memories
Best thing I’ve watched in ages. Father was a firefighter in Bournemouth for many many years
Would love to know who he was, knew a lot of Bournemouth boys
A station officer ,sub officer and leading fireman - the proper ranks, none of this crew ,watch or area manager shite, Brilliant videos mate
did you hear LFB are going back to that?
Why does it matter.
@@TheWeepingDalek Don't forget FIREMEN, none of this PC firefighter rubbish.
@@davidhack1974 what. The proper title is firefighter tho. You don't call a paramedic ambulance man do you?
@@TheWeepingDalek Because the fire service is a semi disciplined organisation not a commercial business. The rank to role was fine as it was now you have two separate pay grades and ranks with same rank markings. All very confusing and makes for far too many white hats at fires. All this was dreamt up by some overpaid commercial company employed to 'professionalise' the fire service and made a right balls up of it.
Feel really nostalgic now 27yrs on the run, 1974-2001
Lanarkshire FB through Strathclyde FB sounds are memorable
Brilliant and brave men.
I miss those LFB appliances.
Opening and closing music is an instrumental by Blondie from Album Autoamerican titled Europa.
i was at an accident a month ago and had to go under the car to check on a man, who had been killed instantly. the memory of that lived with me for a month. theese guys see that maybe once every couple of months. they must hold a lot of bad memories. true gentlemen.
That Dennis is beautiful, especially compared to the Dodge.
Shame they replaced the wheeled escape with a 135 though.
13:38 the good old days.
Very good film!!
Remember turning out in the Dodges ..... they used to sway into the corners. Ours also had a cold start like a choke and use to over rev...sacred going through traffic lights
Do you remember the Dennis RS and the SS
I was in Essex fire brigade some years ago, until they rebranded it as a fire and rescue service. Started on a machine with a wooden 105 ladder, and was soon on a 135 ladder. We even had a wheeled escape for one day, why? Because our appliance caught fire (whilst at a shout). I really feel for them when they are searching wearing BA, when you actually find someone in a fire it's devastating! 64 now, I would go back and do it all again if I could.
I was 2 years old when this was made
wow when was this aired? this came as a recommended video but glad i watched it. love the fact its come from the fire fighters involved. no over the top narations or silly incidental music masking dialogue etc. not like documentaries today
Absolutely. Couldnt agree more. Wouldn't I like to meet the grade one plonka that decided plastering 'music' across everything end to end and have a word with him.
It aired in 1983/4
Doesn't take much to cause a lot of smoke. Went on a single story house with thick black smoke banked right to the floor. The home owner came home from a days work to find this. Turned out there was no fire. She had left the stove on low with a frying pan on that burner. In that frying pan she had left the all plastic spatula that she used that morning. That 1 spatula created enough smoke to fill the entry house with smoke so thick I could not see my hand in front of my face. Incredible really. After discovering this we just PPV the structure and called it a day.
Haha "You silly ol' bastard!" 13:38
If you like this video watch a mini series set in the 90s called Merseyside firefighters .. worth a watch.
Wonder where these firemen are today. Hope they're all still alive and well 🙏🏽
Same here. If any of you are reading this, I hope you're all doing well. You are heroes.
@@scousertom0388 💯🙏🏼
My grandad is the station commander! Glad to say he’s alive and well
@@Gibraltar999 not my uncle luckily
@@joshhoare2693 same here my uncle is still alive
0:12 vintage Dennis and Dodge engines turning out
Sobering to think most are long retired...
Or even dead
The engine voice of Dodge fire engine remind me those truck had been used for goods lorries and the tankers but never used in fire service in Hong Kong while HKFSD wildly used Dennis on that time but also used Perkins engine, probably same engine had been used on Dodge?
The Gunvor is a ringer for Griff Rhys Jones
On the last shout second pump nearly takes the appliance bay door off,quick braking action by the driver.
Ol' Dennis fire engines .. the best of the rest 👍
I wanted to be a firemen,but i dont like heights,scared of fire, faint at the sight of blood and have asthma, so shame really.
You can overcome everything bar the asthma, and if you're asthma is under control you can still join.
It is ok to be scared of something. It only becomes a problem when you act on those fears. Know lots of firefighter who hate small spaces, hate heights but its no problem. You be in charge of yourself and never give into your fears or they will control you.
my input to this 'that tea was piss weak' Respect to all emergency workers and those who support them, and drivers, move out of the fscking way, that could be your family member
the electrical intake cupboard, scary as hell, if it was a thicc cable hopefully it took out the substation fuses. smaller cables will just continuously explode... scary af, respect to the fire brigade from a sparky
Served in Belfast, N.Ireland 1975-82. No job comes even close.
The stuff about the newbie down at the police station wouldn't happen now. There would be enquiries done, people suspended and sacked. Then people would have to talk to councillors ect. The same happened when I was in the Royal Navy. All the fun was taken out.
Funny how times change, what was considered “banter” is now bullying, what was a practical joke is now hazing.
Even when this was filmed, the practice of mickey taking & jokes was under scrutiny, hence the down playing of it in the film.
I think there was a probationary fire fighter that died around this time as a result of being tied to a ladder & being suspended over a water pool, the ladder fell in one end & he drowned.
This era of the fire service was a tough one ! Everyone had highly flammable furniture & almost everyone smoked ! Terrible combination.
Knw quite a few firefighters through my lifesaving work with stjohn ambulance have been in some tricky situations bt nothing compared to what the fire brigade have to face risking their lives .nothing but respect for all of them.
Brilliant!!! Are there any other Lfb documentary’s from the 80s/90s apart from FIRE 1991 and shouts 1983, thanks for posting mate !!
There’s a Buckinghamshire fire and rescue one from 1995
That Dennis has the code name brave 301/302 which is 5 of bravo 251 and bravo 252 the call signs for the plot applicationes for blackwall in London's burning
200 gallons gives 30 minutes on one hose reel?? It must be dribbling out of the nozzle!
I thought the same thing! LOL. Wouldn't last a minute these days. Seems they mostly use a trashline. What I wonder is ....I never saw a single firefighter use gloves. Certainly they must have had them back then! Those were the days. Time to come out of the structure when your ears start to burn.
General purpose gloves were issued to everyone in my brigade, Greater Manchester. High pressure hose reels are by far the most used extinguishing tool. A high pressure hose reel can deal perfectly well with a single room fire, even if well alight and two hose reels deals with most domestic dwelling fires and car fires. The big advantage is their high pressure, 150psi and their ready use, always ready charged with water. Water is on the fire in seconds. You also only need pull of as much as you need, no kinks and easy to handle. It mystifies me why the USA doesn't use them to the same extent. The Dutch fire service has gone one better with larger diameter reels and fire suppressing chemicals. A ultra high pressure lance is now the common tool for house fires. It suppresses the fire after cutting a hole in even brick exterior walls. Fire is suppressed and cooled down very, quickly enabling a rapid and safe entry for BA teams. The down side is that management sem to think these innovations can replace firefighters and even reduce the number of appliances and stations which simply isn't the case. Quite frankly most brigades in the UK are dangerously under manned.
@@LindaFirefighter03Aye. Blistered ears was your badge of office back in those days of no flash hoods. The thing about flash hoods and Nomex gloves is that they resulted in quite serious burn injuries as the took away the feeling of the back of the hands and ear lobes blistering until it was too late. They have caused at least one death that I know of due to heat syncope. The body sweat simply cannot evaporate to cool you if none of your skin is exposed. It takes regular heat training to recognise the onset of heat exhaustion and if left too late it can be and has need fatal in my former brigade.
Where was the FBU with this - rank titles? Plus Police Commissioners? Blair and Cameron on ‘red tape’ ?
When the fire brigade was actually good and a respected profession.
It still is...
Failed the entrance exam, did you?
@@CARLIN4737It doesn't get the respect it used to, nowhere near.
@@throttlegalsmagazineaustra7361I don't think he's wrong quite honestly and there is certainly no call for your comment. He was just stating things ashe sees it.
8:05 unusual mask for BA, what was the difference between those and the one that covers your nose now?
Its all they had there uniforms diddent protect them like now
And thats normal ba mask
Oh no never mind
@@Zackislivid they were pretty good masks, you could have facial hair and the vision was great. The new ones had a better seal though and obviously didnt fog.
Those were the old BA sets used in the 80s
Wow a bell in the 80s never knew
I know I showed this to my dad it made him feel so old. Bell's are more better than sirens in my opinion.
@Ian Wildon have they
@Ian Wildon I never knew that
Chris Lates they were still fitted to Cleveland Fire Brigades engines in this period. They were deemed to be less frightening to animals than rwo-tone air horns.
@Ian Wildon big ben for massive ones?
Heroes.
Loving this documentary. I love seeing the older uniforms and equipment.
I do wonder about that one driver with the really long hair and beard. I honestly would've thought grooming standards at the time were a little more severe.
Chris Whitbread Yea they were ........I stood buy there mid eighties he looked a right cock . Bit like David Seaman thought he looked great but in reality looked stupid .
Looked like a roadie for Motor Head.
At the time he joined which was probably pre 1974 there were no regulations about hair length. Those joining from '74 onwards were required to ' have a tidy haircut and the hair must not touch the collar'. Hence you has the older serving members exercising their 'long hair' rights. To be fair I saw a lot worse than that.
What happened to the barber
Same issues then and now with drivers getting in the way... and idiots doing stuff like smoke bombs in phone boxes etc.
wheres sicknote
Indeed
Ikr where tate
Hes off sick
Hi
messroomh6 You have an great collection of firefighter videos it's been so interesting to see all the difference videos Looking for a video that might have been one of your ones ?
It was a video where a pump like a Bedford TK or Dennis had crashed and had to be rescued by a heavy rescue vehicle
Andrew Diack That doesn’t ring a bell I am afraid.
@@messroomh6 No worries messroomh6 I just found it today it's definitely worth watch it's very interesting thanks for getting back to me I appreciate it
th-cam.com/video/hHBe_jCKZCE/w-d-xo.html
Theres a video of a Essex SS that'd rolled over being rescued by the Essex FRS Scammell wrecker.
the real londons burning
0:34
In Bath and Bristol at this time, not about haircuts, just do it!
Bells in the 1980s. That what proper fire engines sounds like.
@Adrian Heath They aren't as effective and the sound doesn't carry like two tone AIR horns. Electronic sirens never were as effective and that goes for two tone electronic as well.
@@Biffo1262 what about the rumbler siren they are being installed on all police cars ambulances and fire trucks in the uk now now all thats left now is to install q sirens on the firetrucks
@Adrian Heath your americans sirens cause ear loss and there not affective we have changed what you think we still fight fires in rubber and wool we have a better fire crews in the uk than the us your helmets are inpracticl your rigs are to big the uniforms are asbestos and the visor on your helmets only protect your eyes when our uniform has curved helmets microfiber fire proof tuxs we have led lights our rigs are fast and skinny and our sirens are not loud
@Adrian Heath yea no hard fealing yeah
24:24 Out the way Guv...
13:00
BEE BOO BEE BOO
Or just blues and twos but for the pump its blues and bells
Could someone please explain where the term "shouts" originated from for those of us across the pond? Thanks!
I am just guessing but a 'shout' is to be called,. 'Shouted out', 'called out'.
Along with " On the Run " originated in Victorian England, even before Horse Drawn Fire Engines when some Fire ladders were pushed by hand somebody would run ahead shouting to make way for the Firemen and " On the Run" started when Fire Engines were pulled by horses, the Fire Station floor would have a slight lift so that when the steam pump was ready to go with chocks applied to the wheels, the horses would be harnessed to the pump and when the chocks were removed the weight of the Fire Engine would move on its own , meaning the horses did not need to pull against a dead weight when they left the station, the fire engine was already "On the Run" still used today meaning that an appliance is ready to go
On The Run Plmr... thanks for that. I knew the bare bones of the two expressions, but your explanation has filled many holes. Very insightful.
Your welcome take care out there
Long before telephones some cities employed Watchmen whose job was to patrol the most dangerous parts of the city for fire. All they has was a rattle or whistle and they would run to the fire station and shout fire, fire on the way. Hence turning out on a shout!
U do a relly good job on TH-cam keep up there good work on TH-cam mate u do a relly good job on TH-cam hove a good day mate u do a relly good job on TH-cam mate hove a good day mate form greg Bouchard keep up there good work on TH-cam hove a good day mate form greg Bouchard
B30 be dirty
Shaaat's
Stop cab 46 first strike J25
Gill is now a brigade scab and traitor to the brigade.
And where did you get that info?
I know don't you worry
he is head of finance and procurement for lfb, or something similar
It will probably to benefit his pocket once he retires which is unfortunate as he sounds like a decent bloke on this video
I very much doubt he cares what you call him.
That bell constantly ringing is so fucking annoying. Get their attention then shut it down Jesus!