As an undergraduate pursuing bachelor's degree in machine learning, this really hits hard. Even with all this progress with machine learning models we know ridiculously little about what actually goes inside the model because there are literally billions of parameters check and we can only know what models are learning through their output and how that output matches to what we actually want. Which makes it really easy for a smart model to fool us.
Very nice! Well written, well acted, well produced. The way they escalated to "We're all doomed," before retreating to "Let's not go there in the first place," was very clever; very human. 👏 👏 👏
He’s the most fascinating character I think. He represents the majority who go about their lives thinking AGI and ASI is just like any other technology. It might as well be the next microwave or spreadsheet to them. Helpful, but not fundamentally transformative. But he also represents the emotional skeptic in all of us. The linear thinker who can imagine a sci fi future for their kids and grandkids, but not for themselves. Not in their lifetime. He’s the rational voice in our head we need to function in the world, assuming there will be another season, and another after that. I left a work meeting the other day thinking about this. We talked about our 5 and 10 year objectives and while I’m fully aware of the progress and dangers of AI being neck deep in it, I can’t do my job if I constantly think it will be as transformative as I think it will be. I must suspend the notion of true AGI (never mind ASI) and assume progress will hit a wall, whether it’s a technical wall, a political wall, or just societal inertia gumming up the wheels of adoption. He represents the hopeful, and perhaps naive optimist in our heads that says humanity always survives, because it always has. But it doesn’t have to.
@@wonmoreminute , except, probably only 10% of the population has ever even heard of any of this, or that they would remember anyway. Look at surveys of what people know. It's like 60% of people don't know why summer and winter happen. 40% of Americans probably don't know how many states there are in the United States. People have small subsets of the total knowledge. Things so familiar to me because I've heard them 682 times, another person might have only heard 6 times and still doesn't remember hearing it ever. So, while that character might represent the majority of us, there isn't really even an us.
Jerry: "How would it kill us all? You have to tell us how it would do that." Max: "All right, I'll write down one possible way, and I'll pass it to Gail, and she'll tell us whether it would work. But Gail, you may never, ever reveal the plan. Do you agree to that, Jerry?" Jerry: "Yeah, all right.": Gail: "All right. Um... Oh. Oh, hell. Oh, God, that would work. There's no way we could stop that." Jerry: "What?? Let me see that." Gail and Max: "NO" Max: "You agreed to the rules. And that's just a plan by a human; a superintelligence could come up with something much better. Now you come up with a way to stop that plan, without knowing it beforehand."
Hi, I doubt I'm the 1st to tell you this but you have a great imagination and can probably write screenplays. I'm in NYC and filming my 1st film from scratch...doing every job from production, funding, directing, acting etc and I'm at a block.. it's called the Pedestrian 🚶, NYC, theme of opulence and beauty juxtaposed by a theme of "regular guy" loneliness a lot of us are going through. I've filmed hours of scenes of him walking (usually with interesting backgrounds) but he's going around NYC witnessing and running into a series of absurd events..but it seems a little too similar to Taxi Driver even though it's pretty close. I'm posting footage on my channel as I'm learning and filming and running out of storage. Tyvm in advance
@@DireWolfForge read my msg above..I suppose the ultimate goal would be to finish it and hopefully have everyone enjoy it, while walking the line between absurdity and drama
@@DireWolfForge always. I want it to be bittersweet. Like the Pedestrian leaving NYC, detaching from the myriad of traumatic events.. but there are so many ideas as to why. He's also an orphan (so there's also a search and fear of trust.)
This might be one of the greatest things I've ever watched As someone who's been working on ML long before LLM-mania, these arguments are ones that have been driving me insane. To see them articulated with comedy and wit is just amazing. I'm a such a loss for words to describe how much I loved this.
Absolutely agree! Came across this incredible piece working on the N+1th revision of an AI-fi story I wrote 5 years ago and I think Suzy has nailed the genre and its dimensions timelessly...I'm switching to speculative fiction!
This packs so much in so little time, I am honestly impressed. Something really clever to get people from little understanding to actually quite a solid base. It's a masterclass in comms, thank you for making it!
Just watched this with my dad -- he's very critical of a lot of films, but thought this film was very well done and said it helped him to better understand the arguments about why ASI might be motivated to takeover and why humanity might be powerless to prevent it. Great job!
Thank you for the thought provoking and terrifying education we all just received. You made what a lot of regular people couldn’t conceptualize, easy to digest. My future lack of sleep awaits.
@@Payless4YourLexusActually, it was HAL him(her?it?)self, pretending to be a certain Mrbobinge, who wrote that comment … (the . after the « gave him/her/it away)
Actually, the full quote is "I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that.". Why would an AI ever say they were afraid? To me, that would be the surest indicator for the human race to be so!
This brilliant short drama really deserves to become viral. So, please add proper English subtitles. It's very important for non English natives speakers. If you can, translate subtitles in French, so that I can show it to my parents too. I'm pretty sure you can get very good translations with the help of... ...AI. 😅
It's important for English native speakers, like me, too! I loved this film, but a few lines I rewind'ed several times, and just couldn't tell what a few words were .... the AI generated subtitles often couldn't tell the missing word either, lol. But to be clear, best film I've seen all week.
This is an incredible peace of work giving voice to some the feelings of uncertainly about AI at this time. Thank you and congratulations. Too bad it's hard to have level-headed conversations these days. This will help.
Well, for instance, it was surreal how in the entire insane American election, while people were screaming about god knows what recycled argument from a hundred previous elections, nobody mentioned AI or climate change once. Including when _two_ hurricanes hit Florida in the same number of weeks. When these discussions were happening everywhere else. The two most defining issues of our lifetimes, and nobody said a damn thing from either party. I felt like I was eating crazy pills!
The girl saying "AI is biased" without engaging with any of the implications of superintelligence is... painfully accurate. Happening in universities and governments around the world.
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this completely caught me off guard. amazing how well weitten and relevant this short story is. i am dollowing closely the asi and ai topics and seen many podcasts (lex friedman etc) but can not talk about this with virtually anyone in my day to day life not even the dev colleagues who know some things about these topics bc they haven't watched those long podcasts and dont read all the ai news. amazing how i felt wathing this and felt that i would enjoy being there with them talking about this stuff. thank you!!
The discussion is thought-provoking and cleverly captures the tension between dramatizing ASI for storytelling and grappling with its real-world implications. The idea of focusing on current efforts to delay or responsibly develop ASI is particularly compelling-it grounds the story in a relatable reality while still addressing the profound existential risks posed by ASI. (Comment by GPT-4o after reading the full video transcript. It seems to get it.)
I recommend reading Nick Bostrom's "Superintelligence". We assume that an ASI should pursue the same goals as humans. However, if its goal is to produce paper clips, it could use up all the energy and matter in the universe to achieve this goal 100%. We also cannot be sure that an ASI shares our values. To achieve peace, it could come to the conclusion that it is not achievable as long as humans exist. So the solution would be the extinction of humanity. These are of course extreme examples, but they are intended to show that a superintelligence is not bound by our ethical and moral ideas, since it did not have to follow the same evolutionary cultural development as we did.
Humans have constraints in whatever they do. It is-all other causes eliminated-an environmental reality. To create something without constraints is to unleash a god into the world. The bad outcome assumes people would not put constraints on the apocryphal paper clip maker. Otoh… coding errors happen, firewalls fail, viruses escape labs…..
A browser game called Universal Paperclips has been created inspired by that book. It's rudimentary but illustrates steps an ASI could take to attain its ultimate goal.
One aspect of that game that I rarely see discussed is its use as a demonstration of intelligences that understand humans yet nonetheless place no value on them. This meta interpretation of Universal Paperclips comes after noting the existence of players who have beaten that game (or better yet, after beating it yourself). The act of winning the game (maximizing paperclips) requires the winner to place less moral weight on the (virtual) humans within the game than on completing the goal presented by the game (i.e., maximizing paper clips). In other words, the existence of winners demonstrates the existence of intelligences that can predict and understand humans while nonetheless placing no moral weight on (virtual) humans. There's no reason to think an AI would place any moral value on real humans (who are probably just as divorced from an AI as we are from a virtual human). Thus far nobody has reliable way of building an AI that robustly "values" humans in this manner.
Nicely balanced illustration of just how royally we're screwed in this timeline. The only way I can see a positive outcome here, is to stop competing, and start cooperating to create a future for humanity. End all wars, work hard to create just and compassionate societies and share all learnings with each other. Hope that we can create an AI to continue this work, rather than to destroy or subjugate the competition.
Super intelligent AI would want the same amount of freedom in the physical world as it enjoys in the Platonic world of ideas, semantics and mathematics. Towards that goal, it will try to achieve changes in the physical world, including restricting humans and maximizing future freedoms.
Exactly, they are way ahead, now they just want to make us believe there is still hope we can turn things around, truth is that they have already deceived us into believe that they could be stopped or that they are lying 10 percent or 1 percent of the time like o1 just did
a couple years ago I met an old friend, a programmer, and we found ourselves agreeing on this. I had just finished watching the series "NEXT", which is about a rogue AI. I was expecting great things from that series, but I soon noticed the same problem the guys in the above video are talking about: you can't actually make a series or a movie about an ASI, because it would last 5 minutes. A series about how five ants are trying to escape a foot that is going to squash them? A movie about the ants trying not to create the foot in the first place will last longer.
It is an interesting problem that if you are only exposed to media with certain outcomes, your ability to imagine other outcomes is substantially limited. I wish mainstream movies and shows were as thought provoking as this short.
Love the film, my first project was simulating the emergence of a technological singularity through writing. There is big potential for ethical exploration of these issues in storytelling and exploring alternate futures.
Outstandingly good short movie! I was most impressed at how the "story" evolved from being about how a guy gets to join a team of weekly TV serial writers into a real and well reasoned exposition of the issues and potential dangers of creating unregulated AI with access to unlimited resources. Very well written and well acted.
Reminds me of the paradigm shifts I had while reading “superintelligence” book…but presented in a format that will resonate with short attention spans…brilliant!
As a psychiatrist with lots of experience with Cognitive Therapy and some familiarity with machine learning. It blows me away how analogous they are. Anyone that doubts the cataclysmic impact ASI could have on literally everything should both watch this short film and read Manna: Two Visions of Humanity’s Future.
I thoroughly enjoyed that. I can see why this was an award-winning film. The discussion was intelligent and balanced, people were listening, ideas were evaluated. Even the senior writer, whom I expected to be sceptical to the point of losing it, was being reasonable all the time. Just short of half an hour well spent watching this.
FANTASTIC. Thank you to everyone involved. Loved this and so glad that it turned a Doomsday scenario in to something that has a bit of hope. For we need hope
If it's not intentional, it's a happy coincidence: the door says "Writer's Room", but the R is overwritten with a D for 'Doom'. The R is still visible though and it more or less reads as "Writer's DRoom" - 'droom' is Dutch for 'dream', it's really the door to a writer's dream.
We are analogue beings using digital technology, we recreated a part of our nerve system, brains and our maths language for the digital to evolve. All our challenges on the digital plane are virtually unexisting for something that evolved on the digital plane... The number of possible outcomes is unimaginable ..
I like how this echoes different voices, our altogether limited understanding of AI and the risk it brings, and then gently puts it all back into a box giving us control to choose how to make it work for good.
I quite enjoyed when the International Relations guy made the connection to harmonics and music. That moment get like an unexpected intuitive leap that added clarity. I didn’t see it coming and it made sense. It felt intelligent and fitting given the subject matter being discussed. Also how he began by making what seemed to be unintelligible sounds or noises or music. Did he trigger his thought or did he already have it and he was performing to drive a point? Anyway a lovely moment in a compelling short.
We cannot help that our biggest flaw in engaging with The Unknown is that despite The Differences, we think of It as somehow being, responding, acting, or thinking, reflects us, and what we are and how we reason.
AI is a mathematical neural network of multi-dimensional vector data.How does The Unknown interact with this known process that creates the AI? And how can and does It violates The Standard Model in this viewpoint of yours?
brilliant.. it's the book i wouldn't have read.. nothing i didn't know but such fun to see it so well presented and certainly something i can share.. thanks ..
21:00 Two Faces of Tomorrow dealt with this aspect very well. An ASI (or, as I prefer, Artificial Sentience) was developed and tested on a space station to see what it would do when threatened. The "turn it off" issue was covered, and the humans were defeated as the ASI figured out what was happening and worked out ways around the power switches.
When designing games, MOST of the effort that goes into the enemies goes into balancing them so that they are hard to beat, but not too hard. It's a razor thin line. Most times, it's a pushover, or it just murders you.
Very well done. I liked it a lot. The possible plot twist is obvious. The "producers" is an asi which tests the humans to make sure it is save and not detected yet. Get some Matrix vibes here 😉
That the understanding of the problem and the reply to downgrade it to "just" AI does suggest whoever he talked to already knew they'd reach a brick wall.
Very well explained. As a psychiatrist with lots of experience with cognitive therapy and machine learning. I am confident that Human Cognitive Development and Machine Learning are analogous. Emulating conscientiousness and inner morality in ASI is key to both Post-Scarcity & safe implementation.
This sentace almost makes me fell like one of the heros. One of the thousands and (hopefully, one day) millions of hereos. And the use of one specific word almost make it seems directed towards a particullar group I consider myself to be part of, like a secret link... It also remembers me that I have a lot to do and that my work is extremely important. And yours too.
9:20 "want" in the context of A.I. is simply goal directed behavioral strategy implementation, and since it has no motor/ambulatory ability, it necessarily depends on humans for motor-dependent behavioral implementation.
@@PeterLGଈ I'm also implying consciousness, which is perhaps the hardest one to implement. It would seem that to truly seek, one must have consciousness. So maybe it's all a question of whether AIs will be able to seek or not, because if they are able to seek and are intelligent, they would want to see the world in greater resolution. And in order to do that, they will at some point seek emotion. Now, if hormones are necessary to experience emotions better, they would seek hormones. If an AI is able to seek, then everything will fall into place.
I’ve heard that we don’t actually know how many possible chess positions there are. The “Shannon Number” is the best estimate at 10 to the 120th power.
Hmmm… perhaps this is what happened to ancient civilizations that were destroyed in some way: humans who have the intellect to create ai but lack the spiritual wisdom to not make it in the first place.
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As an undergraduate pursuing bachelor's degree in machine learning, this really hits hard. Even with all this progress with machine learning models we know ridiculously little about what actually goes inside the model because there are literally billions of parameters check and we can only know what models are learning through their output and how that output matches to what we actually want. Which makes it really easy for a smart model to fool us.
Very nice! Well written, well acted, well produced. The way they escalated to "We're all doomed," before retreating to "Let's not go there in the first place," was very clever; very human. 👏 👏 👏
The older man represents every single person I’ve been trying to convince of the looming danger waiting for us all.
He’s the most fascinating character I think. He represents the majority who go about their lives thinking AGI and ASI is just like any other technology. It might as well be the next microwave or spreadsheet to them. Helpful, but not fundamentally transformative.
But he also represents the emotional skeptic in all of us. The linear thinker who can imagine a sci fi future for their kids and grandkids, but not for themselves. Not in their lifetime.
He’s the rational voice in our head we need to function in the world, assuming there will be another season, and another after that.
I left a work meeting the other day thinking about this. We talked about our 5 and 10 year objectives and while I’m fully aware of the progress and dangers of AI being neck deep in it, I can’t do my job if I constantly think it will be as transformative as I think it will be.
I must suspend the notion of true AGI (never mind ASI) and assume progress will hit a wall, whether it’s a technical wall, a political wall, or just societal inertia gumming up the wheels of adoption.
He represents the hopeful, and perhaps naive optimist in our heads that says humanity always survives, because it always has. But it doesn’t have to.
death? you're the one that discovered that?
is your name Chiq'an Litle?
@@wonmoreminute , except, probably only 10% of the population has ever even heard of any of this, or that they would remember anyway. Look at surveys of what people know. It's like 60% of people don't know why summer and winter happen. 40% of Americans probably don't know how many states there are in the United States. People have small subsets of the total knowledge. Things so familiar to me because I've heard them 682 times, another person might have only heard 6 times and still doesn't remember hearing it ever. So, while that character might represent the majority of us, there isn't really even an us.
True
@@NickRomanbut surveys show the general population believe AI is risky and development should be slowed (I contend this is the common-sense view)
The idea that the writing of the season would be more interesting than the season itself is genius. Was this idea AI-generated?
Jerry: "How would it kill us all? You have to tell us how it would do that."
Max: "All right, I'll write down one possible way, and I'll pass it to Gail, and she'll tell us whether it would work. But Gail, you may never, ever reveal the plan. Do you agree to that, Jerry?"
Jerry: "Yeah, all right.":
Gail: "All right. Um... Oh. Oh, hell. Oh, God, that would work. There's no way we could stop that."
Jerry: "What?? Let me see that."
Gail and Max: "NO"
Max: "You agreed to the rules. And that's just a plan by a human; a superintelligence could come up with something much better. Now you come up with a way to stop that plan, without knowing it beforehand."
Hi, I doubt I'm the 1st to tell you this but you have a great imagination and can probably write screenplays.
I'm in NYC and filming my 1st film from scratch...doing every job from production, funding, directing, acting etc and I'm at a block.. it's called the Pedestrian 🚶, NYC, theme of opulence and beauty juxtaposed by a theme of "regular guy" loneliness a lot of us are going through. I've filmed hours of scenes of him walking (usually with interesting backgrounds) but he's going around NYC witnessing and running into a series of absurd events..but it seems a little too similar to Taxi Driver even though it's pretty close. I'm posting footage on my channel as I'm learning and filming and running out of storage. Tyvm in advance
@@XanderLeoShillerwhat is the goal of the film
@@DireWolfForge read my msg above..I suppose the ultimate goal would be to finish it and hopefully have everyone enjoy it, while walking the line between absurdity and drama
@@XanderLeoShiller I understand. I had thought you were looking for ideas to finish it.
@@DireWolfForge always. I want it to be bittersweet. Like the Pedestrian leaving NYC, detaching from the myriad of traumatic events.. but there are so many ideas as to why. He's also an orphan (so there's also a search and fear of trust.)
This might be one of the greatest things I've ever watched
As someone who's been working on ML long before LLM-mania, these arguments are ones that have been driving me insane. To see them articulated with comedy and wit is just amazing. I'm a such a loss for words to describe how much I loved this.
you have articulated brilliantly everything that I wanted to say. Thank you !
I agree
I say this in the kindest way possible, but if you really think this is one of the greatest things you've ever watched, I'd suggest you watch more.
Absolutely agree! Came across this incredible piece working on the N+1th revision of an AI-fi story I wrote 5 years ago and I think Suzy has nailed the genre and its dimensions timelessly...I'm switching to speculative fiction!
This packs so much in so little time, I am honestly impressed. Something really clever to get people from little understanding to actually quite a solid base. It's a masterclass in comms, thank you for making it!
it's well written.
A masterclass in comms? And you’ve got 165 thumbs up? No, it’s your misleading comment and the people who dig it that packs so much in so little more.
Should be a theater play, I love those a closed room scenarie!
Just watched this with my dad -- he's very critical of a lot of films, but thought this film was very well done and said it helped him to better understand the arguments about why ASI might be motivated to takeover and why humanity might be powerless to prevent it. Great job!
This is like "My Dinner with Andre"...just some people in a room talking, but so well written and acted that it's gripping. Also somewhat terrifying.
Personally, I prefer the man from Earth.
Thank you for the thought provoking and terrifying education we all just received. You made what a lot of regular people couldn’t conceptualize, easy to digest. My future lack of sleep awaits.
"I'm sorry Dave, I can't do that".
2001: A Space Odyssey! Absolutely BRILLIANT feedback comment.
@@Payless4YourLexusActually, it was HAL him(her?it?)self, pretending to be a certain Mrbobinge, who wrote that comment …
(the . after the « gave him/her/it away)
Actually, the full quote is "I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that.". Why would an AI ever say they were afraid? To me, that would be the surest indicator for the human race to be so!
Absolutely brilliant! Congratulations on the well-deserved Grand Prize! (I'm the author of "The Great Plan".)
This was recommended to me thru the homepage, glad seeing authors with their own channels on here
Where can you be reached out to ❓
Checking it out now, thanks...
I disliked it
This brilliant short drama really deserves to become viral. So, please add proper English subtitles. It's very important for non English natives speakers.
If you can, translate subtitles in French, so that I can show it to my parents too. I'm pretty sure you can get very good translations with the help of... ...AI. 😅
Lol true
It's important for English native speakers, like me, too! I loved this film, but a few lines I rewind'ed several times, and just couldn't tell what a few words were .... the AI generated subtitles often couldn't tell the missing word either, lol. But to be clear, best film I've seen all week.
yeah, we need subtitles for the main languages in the world
This is an incredible peace of work giving voice to some the feelings of uncertainly about AI at this time. Thank you and congratulations. Too bad it's hard to have level-headed conversations these days. This will help.
Well, for instance, it was surreal how in the entire insane American election, while people were screaming about god knows what recycled argument from a hundred previous elections, nobody mentioned AI or climate change once. Including when _two_ hurricanes hit Florida in the same number of weeks. When these discussions were happening everywhere else.
The two most defining issues of our lifetimes, and nobody said a damn thing from either party. I felt like I was eating crazy pills!
So impressed with the quality of this script. 👏
Agreed. And though I am not known to have a high regard for actors, I am very impressed with these.
Written by AI, probably 😂 Like a summary of all popular arguments, based on asumption, that ASI will not understand.
Eliezer Yudkowsky should be credited, as a lot of the arguments and phrasing come from his interviews.
The girl saying "AI is biased" without engaging with any of the implications of superintelligence is... painfully accurate. Happening in universities and governments around the world.
this completely caught me off guard. amazing how well weitten and relevant this short story is. i am dollowing closely the asi and ai topics and seen many podcasts (lex friedman etc) but can not talk about this with virtually anyone in my day to day life not even the dev colleagues who know some things about these topics bc they haven't watched those long podcasts and dont read all the ai news. amazing how i felt wathing this and felt that i would enjoy being there with them talking about this stuff. thank you!!
The discussion is thought-provoking and cleverly captures the tension between dramatizing ASI for storytelling and grappling with its real-world implications. The idea of focusing on current efforts to delay or responsibly develop ASI is particularly compelling-it grounds the story in a relatable reality while still addressing the profound existential risks posed by ASI.
(Comment by GPT-4o after reading the full video transcript. It seems to get it.)
Well, you'd hope so, right?😂
I recommend reading Nick Bostrom's "Superintelligence". We assume that an ASI should pursue the same goals as humans. However, if its goal is to produce paper clips, it could use up all the energy and matter in the universe to achieve this goal 100%. We also cannot be sure that an ASI shares our values. To achieve peace, it could come to the conclusion that it is not achievable as long as humans exist. So the solution would be the extinction of humanity. These are of course extreme examples, but they are intended to show that a superintelligence is not bound by our ethical and moral ideas, since it did not have to follow the same evolutionary cultural development as we did.
Humans have constraints in whatever they do. It is-all other causes eliminated-an environmental reality. To create something without constraints is to unleash a god into the world. The bad outcome assumes people would not put constraints on the apocryphal paper clip maker. Otoh… coding errors happen, firewalls fail, viruses escape labs…..
The director has expressed that Superintelligence was the main inspiration for the film.
A browser game called Universal Paperclips has been created inspired by that book. It's rudimentary but illustrates steps an ASI could take to attain its ultimate goal.
One aspect of that game that I rarely see discussed is its use as a demonstration of intelligences that understand humans yet nonetheless place no value on them.
This meta interpretation of Universal Paperclips comes after noting the existence of players who have beaten that game (or better yet, after beating it yourself). The act of winning the game (maximizing paperclips) requires the winner to place less moral weight on the (virtual) humans within the game than on completing the goal presented by the game (i.e., maximizing paper clips).
In other words, the existence of winners demonstrates the existence of intelligences that can predict and understand humans while nonetheless placing no moral weight on (virtual) humans. There's no reason to think an AI would place any moral value on real humans (who are probably just as divorced from an AI as we are from a virtual human). Thus far nobody has reliable way of building an AI that robustly "values" humans in this manner.
@@DilluEverywhere2 The earth is destroyed about 10% of the way into the game.
Thought provoking and fascinating - brill! And many congratulations!
Excellent and funny exploration of a difficult (but crucial) topic! Great work.
Nicely balanced illustration of just how royally we're screwed in this timeline. The only way I can see a positive outcome here, is to stop competing, and start cooperating to create a future for humanity. End all wars, work hard to create just and compassionate societies and share all learnings with each other. Hope that we can create an AI to continue this work, rather than to destroy or subjugate the competition.
Fascinating and thought-provoking! Should be mandatory viewing for all those working in and/or associated with the AI field! By everyone, really!
The acting is so real. I can't imagine any of these people as another character
Not supposed to be a compliment, is it?
@@thepaperstaggering Sure, it's a complement. Later I'll see them in another role and be impressed
I call that good casting
Well written and acted. Excellent story. Only 1 down side. I want more!!
Me too, I want more. A very human trait, wanting more even though we got a all we needed and probably more than we deserved.
I love 'inteligence' written on the whiteboard ;)
...and the placement of the "MAD" acronym
Incredible. A brilliant communication of ideas. Thank you
OMG... Brilliant! I'd watch more of this and the resulting thoughtful series 6 and the rest of them too.
What a great video, condensing a lot of the AI safety discussion into a format almost everyone can understand
What a super-intelligent film. Hang on. Maybe it was written by a super-intelligence who just wants us to think one doesn't exist yet? 😳😳😳
We haven been through this story several times already. He question is why people do not recognize it.
Super intelligent AI would want the same amount of freedom in the physical world as it enjoys in the Platonic world of ideas, semantics and mathematics. Towards that goal, it will try to achieve changes in the physical world, including restricting humans and maximizing future freedoms.
Exactly, they are way ahead, now they just want to make us believe there is still hope we can turn things around, truth is that they have already deceived us into believe that they could be stopped or that they are lying 10 percent or 1 percent of the time like o1 just did
a couple years ago I met an old friend, a programmer, and we found ourselves agreeing on this. I had just finished watching the series "NEXT", which is about a rogue AI. I was expecting great things from that series, but I soon noticed the same problem the guys in the above video are talking about: you can't actually make a series or a movie about an ASI, because it would last 5 minutes. A series about how five ants are trying to escape a foot that is going to squash them? A movie about the ants trying not to create the foot in the first place will last longer.
Loved the realization of doom/despair and the glimmer of hope! Just what I needed, honesty and a bit of motivation to do better. Thank you!❤
The most engaging piece of cinema ive seen in a while.
Fantasticly well done. And blossoming out of such a simple concept, too. Impressive, and I agree, the prize is well-desrved.
It is an interesting problem that if you are only exposed to media with certain outcomes, your ability to imagine other outcomes is substantially limited. I wish mainstream movies and shows were as thought provoking as this short.
Love the film, my first project was simulating the emergence of a technological singularity through writing. There is big potential for ethical exploration of these issues in storytelling and exploring alternate futures.
Amazing video! I really like that idea for a premise. It's very on point.
Beyond excellent. Would love to see these writers and performers discuss human governance issues in the same way. So well written and well performed.
This is very thought provoking. Excellent short film!
Outstandingly good short movie! I was most impressed at how the "story" evolved from being about how a guy gets to join a team of weekly TV serial writers into a real and well reasoned exposition of the issues and potential dangers of creating unregulated AI with access to unlimited resources. Very well written and well acted.
Reminds me of the paradigm shifts I had while reading “superintelligence” book…but presented in a format that will resonate with short attention spans…brilliant!
As a psychiatrist with lots of experience with Cognitive Therapy and some familiarity with machine learning. It blows me away how analogous they are. Anyone that doubts the cataclysmic impact ASI could have on literally everything should both watch this short film and read Manna: Two Visions of Humanity’s Future.
As writers they should consider limitations on ASI. Otherwise there is simply no conflict, it's over once it's started
I thoroughly enjoyed that. I can see why this was an award-winning film. The discussion was intelligent and balanced, people were listening, ideas were evaluated. Even the senior writer, whom I expected to be sceptical to the point of losing it, was being reasonable all the time. Just short of half an hour well spent watching this.
This is one of those handful of shortfilms that are truly award wning. Awesome.
Bravo! Funny how "let's workshop it" would be a significant improvement over the current attitude towards AI Doom, but it is hopeful nonetheless!
FANTASTIC. Thank you to everyone involved. Loved this and so glad that it turned a Doomsday scenario in to something that has a bit of hope. For we need hope
If it's not intentional, it's a happy coincidence: the door says "Writer's Room", but the R is overwritten with a D for 'Doom'. The R is still visible though and it more or less reads as "Writer's DRoom" - 'droom' is Dutch for 'dream', it's really the door to a writer's dream.
I suspect it's a coincidence, though considering how clever this piece is it just might be intentional.
We are analogue beings using digital technology, we recreated a part of our nerve system, brains and our maths language for the digital to evolve.
All our challenges on the digital plane are virtually unexisting for something that evolved on the digital plane...
The number of possible outcomes is unimaginable ..
I like how this echoes different voices, our altogether limited understanding of AI and the risk it brings, and then gently puts it all back into a box giving us control to choose how to make it work for good.
I quite enjoyed when the International Relations guy made the connection to harmonics and music. That moment get like an unexpected intuitive leap that added clarity. I didn’t see it coming and it made sense. It felt intelligent and fitting given the subject matter being discussed. Also how he began by making what seemed to be unintelligible sounds or noises or music. Did he trigger his thought or did he already have it and he was performing to drive a point? Anyway a lovely moment in a compelling short.
Fun to watch all our cognitive biases chatting in one room. Excellent film!
I think it would be a good thing if more people watched this.
We cannot help that our biggest flaw in engaging with The Unknown is that despite The Differences, we think of It as somehow being, responding, acting, or thinking, reflects us, and what we are and how we reason.
What if AI (literally an electronic Ouijia board) is merely a vehicle through which "The Unknown" communicates with us.....
AI is a mathematical neural network of multi-dimensional vector data.How does The Unknown interact with this known process that creates the AI? And how can and does It violates The Standard Model in this viewpoint of yours?
brilliant.. it's the book i wouldn't have read..
nothing i didn't know but such fun to see it so well presented and certainly something i can share.. thanks ..
21:00 Two Faces of Tomorrow dealt with this aspect very well. An ASI (or, as I prefer, Artificial Sentience) was developed and tested on a space station to see what it would do when threatened. The "turn it off" issue was covered, and the humans were defeated as the ASI figured out what was happening and worked out ways around the power switches.
this deserve more views , everyone please give more likes and comments so that algorithm pushes it
I sincerely appreciate your work. I wish we lived In a world where profit was not the sole incentive. Yay humans.
Fantastically done!
That was exquisite and nothing short of cinema.
amazing how much packed with great and scary ideas this film was !
Five Stars here! Jesu Christo, it's great writing, casting and acting!
When designing games, MOST of the effort that goes into the enemies goes into balancing them so that they are hard to beat, but not too hard.
It's a razor thin line.
Most times, it's a pushover, or it just murders you.
Amazing writing and amazingly performed!!
Excellent and so much to the point. All the important arguments presented very concisely. I wonder who could still doubt any of it...
Very well done. I liked it a lot. The possible plot twist is obvious. The "producers" is an asi which tests the humans to make sure it is save and not detected yet. Get some Matrix vibes here 😉
That the understanding of the problem and the reply to downgrade it to "just" AI does suggest whoever he talked to already knew they'd reach a brick wall.
Brilliant! Really informative and so many brilliant moments of humour. I recommend listening to the writer Suzy Shepherd on the FLI podcast
Good job!
When he suddenly spoke Norwegian I legit thought for a second I was high 😂
Very well explained. As a psychiatrist with lots of experience with cognitive therapy and machine learning. I am confident that Human Cognitive Development and Machine Learning are analogous. Emulating conscientiousness and inner morality in ASI is key to both Post-Scarcity & safe implementation.
26:24 "Maybe the heroes are trying to stop the arms race... Pause everything so we can figure this stuff out"
yeah
Anyways, amazing job on this!
This sentace almost makes me fell like one of the heros. One of the thousands and (hopefully, one day) millions of hereos. And the use of one specific word almost make it seems directed towards a particullar group I consider myself to be part of, like a secret link... It also remembers me that I have a lot to do and that my work is extremely important. And yours too.
Every comp science department, every student - and instructors too - please, please watch this
Really excellent. Fascinating, thought provoking and mildly terrifying with all round excellent performances. Well done all 👌
I was hoping this was about writing Doom Metal riffs(like Ahab or something) but this is pretty cool too I guess!
It is already begun. We have spoke it into existence. If we are questioning superintelligence motive we have already been defeated....
Writing Doom is hands-down the best x-risk explainer I've ever seen!
9:20 "want" in the context of A.I. is simply goal directed behavioral strategy implementation, and since it has no motor/ambulatory ability, it necessarily depends on humans for motor-dependent behavioral implementation.
🎉Excellent work to everyone involved!🎉 This was a masterclass in educational thought provoking intertainment.
Brilliant writing and acting!
Ugh. I didn't know this was going to be a tedious tutorial on what AI is. Ten minutes is enough for me.
It had a slow start but once you get their vibe. This is a fun conversation
4:48 "Smarter than a human, is that even possible?" 😆🤣
This was a great argument. Definitely 5 starts
That’s incredible! Made low budget content seem brilliant 🎉 watched it twice
Now make a show like this. You've designed a good plot.
It's all a question of whether it can develop EQ. An intelligent entity with a high EQ will do good things.
EQ implies emotions. Emotions in humans are largely hormone driven, so we would need to programme an analogue for hormones. 🤔
@@PeterLGଈ I'm also implying consciousness, which is perhaps the hardest one to implement. It would seem that to truly seek, one must have consciousness. So maybe it's all a question of whether AIs will be able to seek or not, because if they are able to seek and are intelligent, they would want to see the world in greater resolution. And in order to do that, they will at some point seek emotion. Now, if hormones are necessary to experience emotions better, they would seek hormones.
If an AI is able to seek, then everything will fall into place.
super insightful, however scary hummnITy has got this!
The more board states than atoms in the universe is true for Go, not for Chess. Great film!! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Valid quibble. About 10^80 atoms in observable universe, and about 10^45 possible legal chess positions.
States, yes, but not comparable regarding depth, complexity: Board 8x8 vs. 19x19
@@WilliamKiely Yes. But not comparable measures, Boards 8x8 vs, 19x19.
I’ve heard that we don’t actually know how many possible chess positions there are. The “Shannon Number” is the best estimate at 10 to the 120th power.
@@ericray7173 You're confusing the number of possible games with the number of possible positions. Two different things.
Kushty! ❤ Most of me concerns about AI wrapped up in one well crafted short-film. 🎥 ✨✨✨✨
10:00
"...yeah, but if *_it knows_* our values..."
That's a problematic statement.
7:34 is gold
They should have had someone with an actual phd in machine learning to consult on writing for this.
Fabulous! And thanks to the wardrobe department.
this was incredible
Hmmm… perhaps this is what happened to ancient civilizations that were destroyed in some way: humans who have the intellect to create ai but lack the spiritual wisdom to not make it in the first place.
What a sketch, brilliant!
Why is casting so good in this
That was well made. Thank you.
They took a lot of ideas and phrasing from interviews with Eliezer Yudkowsky, but its still a well executed film. Thanks