I must say that, as a pretty conservative evangelical myself, I have always loved John Dominic Crossan. His book The First Paul was fascinating and I'd be interested in seeing how his ideas have evolved in the new book
This was a really rich and informative discussion. Thank you. I do think, however, that it's a little naive to suggest that most Christians today would be able to handle this perspective on reading the New Testament. The whole idea that different writers are promoting their own religious perspectives on things-not literal divine revelations or historical eyewitness accounts-is, unfortunately, anathema to them.
Are you serious? Are you saying you must be from 21st century Jerusalem to know anything about 1st century Jerusalem? And why did you single out Serbians? This comment was a joke, right?
@@arbitScaleModels I'm working through the video now. I'll reply more to this later, but is it possible they were using it as a way to illustrate how different people *understood* history?
@@arbitScaleModels So at 37:16 Crossan mentions a painting from Sicily. Is that an example of your concern? I believe he is using it to illustrate an ongoing tendency in the Church to strive to harmonize Paul with Peter and to make the latter the one in charge. It wasn't a proof-text as such for what's happening in the book of Acts, but rather an artistic rendering of the same idea that Crossan is getting at in his book.
@@arbitScaleModels Similarly at 51:00, he mentions the Serbian art. It is clearly not a historical proof or even evidence of anything-prior to this Crossan already stated that the entire issue of Paul's death is "amateur guesswork." He's just using that art to illustrate Paul's "legacy" among later Christianity, namely, his letters.
Great topic, great guest - one of my all-time fave scholars! Thanks so much!
Yes! Always great to hear about a new book by JDC
I must say that, as a pretty conservative evangelical myself, I have always loved John Dominic Crossan. His book The First Paul was fascinating and I'd be interested in seeing how his ideas have evolved in the new book
This was a really rich and informative discussion. Thank you. I do think, however, that it's a little naive to suggest that most Christians today would be able to handle this perspective on reading the New Testament. The whole idea that different writers are promoting their own religious perspectives on things-not literal divine revelations or historical eyewitness accounts-is, unfortunately, anathema to them.
What do Europeans or Serbians know anything about the historical events in Jerusalem.
Are you serious? Are you saying you must be from 21st century Jerusalem to know anything about 1st century Jerusalem? And why did you single out Serbians? This comment was a joke, right?
@KingoftheJuice18 In the interview, they mentioned Serbian and European art as evidence for history, which I found preposterous.
@@arbitScaleModels I'm working through the video now. I'll reply more to this later, but is it possible they were using it as a way to illustrate how different people *understood* history?
@@arbitScaleModels So at 37:16 Crossan mentions a painting from Sicily. Is that an example of your concern? I believe he is using it to illustrate an ongoing tendency in the Church to strive to harmonize Paul with Peter and to make the latter the one in charge. It wasn't a proof-text as such for what's happening in the book of Acts, but rather an artistic rendering of the same idea that Crossan is getting at in his book.
@@arbitScaleModels Similarly at 51:00, he mentions the Serbian art. It is clearly not a historical proof or even evidence of anything-prior to this Crossan already stated that the entire issue of Paul's death is "amateur guesswork." He's just using that art to illustrate Paul's "legacy" among later Christianity, namely, his letters.