The one where she's pulling the container train up the hill at the speed limit is better, especially when she passes the container train going down the hill with 10 diesels to power it.
So very glad I caught this pulling the circus train in 2010. Little did I know that it would be the 3985’s next to last trip. And the circus train succumbed to Liberal protestors a few short years later.
Interestingly, it looks like this was from the late 80s, as the 3985's tender seems to be in a coal configuration (unlike with Big Boy 4014 who was converted during restoration, they didn't convert her to oil until 1990).
It's under restoration by a heritage organization in Silvis, Illinois now with the goal of running it again (they also will try to bring back UP 5511, that huge 2-10-2 that was stored in Cheyenne for decades). UP even donated several passenger cars for them to haul with the two giants.
One of the best videos like this. And best one I've ever seen. Short to the point, great camera, sense of anticipation and nice lucky catch on the freight.
hey gerf! buddy i had NO IDEA you were into locos lol. 3985 is one amazing engine ei? hope they restore her in the next coming years...would look mighty nice with the 4014
Thought I saw TWO trains entering that curve... DAMN, a debate about drivers being in synch??? LOL That guy would have a stroke looking at old film of the Pennsy Duplexes! Those suckers could really spin and slip out of synch!!!
Hard to believe this was only nine years ago. The resolution is poor. Even for back then? Also, I imagine this must be a " fans only " video as there is no explanation for those of us who love the rails, both steam and diesel, who could use a backstory. Where the hell is Sherman Hill? I gave a thumbs up but think you could do better.
@@dustyshackleford8674 That could be, but we're still left to guess which is disappointing. It could be in the 60s when some of the last locos were still sharing the tracks with the diesels. Today I have viewed locos completely restored being put to work on select routes in the present.(2010s)
CARAMBA! ísto que é VIDEO, com som e imagem bem naturais, sem musiquinhas acopladas ou filmagens tremidas ou distorcidas...meus sinceros parabéns!...que continue sempre assim!
Right, but diesel locomotives have higher tractive effort and better adhesion and they move the heaviest trains on earth in the Pilbara region of Australia.
@@Jemalacane0 Eh diesels aren't about huge power and traction, the biggest benefit by far over steam is their versatility and ability to run in multiple which basically made huge steam locomotives like 4014 obsolete. You can lash together 5 diesels and it'll be far more powerful than any steam locomotive but it still only takes one crew to operate and at the end of it you can split them all apart to pull 5 different trains.
UP's Steam fleet is really neat. It's sad that the idea of returning older locos for exhibition wasn't around when the UP's Turbine locos were retired. Can you imagine standing next to the track when with one of those rolling past, it would be like having a 747 at full throttle slowly moving past you 😁
Given the location, I don't think it was. It looks like this was shot around the Tie Siding area, which if so, then the train was heading east towards Cheyenne.
@@carryfreak5059 There are 3 primary reasons: 1--Protection power in the event of a breakdown on the steam engine 2--For their dynamic braking ability when going down a mountain grade 3--To provide power and lighting for the passenger cars behind the engine
DASCO2136 ok. I get 1 and 3 but The steamers had to do it by themselves before the advent of diesel power so I would think this big boy could handle mountain grades by itself
They're called dome cars. UP called them "Astrodomes." Observation cars are tail cars with round ends or in the old days, brass railings for politicians speeches.
At first I was going to call this digital bogus... then I did many gnat's ass detail comparisons... and.. I find zero faults. So unless someone is REAL good at video overlay, with lots of spare time on their hands, it is, in fact, a six-and-a-half minute span with two trains. Definitely a once-in-a-lifetime place to be standing with a camera. Very cool!
Not really. One Progress SD and two GE's. I see mixes like this every day in front of my place at Sunset Falls in Index WA. It is nice to see more SD's as I am sick of seeing so many GE's. A BNSF engineer made an interesting comment a couple of days ago that the ge loco's were a lot cheaper then the Progress SD's and that is why the railroads invested heavily in them for a while. Also given the the EPA tried to put EMD out of business, they had some catching up to do. But Progress is on the rise in a really big way. Starting to see trains with only Progress Locos, and no GE. . EMD/Progress still has the majority of patents on locomotive technology, some of which you can not get on a GE, and I suspect that they charge accordingly for some of those innovative features.
I agree with 3RTracing. I even saw an ancient SD (45, I think) doing yard hosteling goat work last week with brand new BNSF livery paint.. so I would guess they plan on keeping it around. What I'd really love to see would be the UP to round up a few of the old 6900s, paint them up nice and send them out on the line across the nation in a pretty little set for the public (at least those of us who know the difference) to oogle over.
It was 2 EMD SD60Ms bracketing an SD40-2. The lead SD60M 6133 has the original 3 window wide cab design affectionately called 'tri-clops'. The trailing SD60M 6314, had the newer two window design that became standard on later EMD wide cab designs
This is a bogus video of the Challenger. It's been inserted through some animation photoshop type program. The proof is the Challenger in Steam's Train Simulator. The driving wheels are synchronized, so this cannot be a real Challenger! I wish I had been around at the time of steam. It was at the end of phasing out when I was growing up, but still remember seeing the engines when I was maybe 5 yoa. My dad had taken me to a roundhouse where they were working on steam loco's. Loved watching your vid. Two thumbs up.
+Sincronicity not to be an ass, but this is one of those cases where u should keep your mouth shut to keep from proving yourself a fool. this IS NOT photoshoped, its the real challenger. you do realize that in ts, its a stylized version of the trains, right? in real life, one group of drivers can spin while the other group keeps traction. never ever EVER will you see both sets of drivers in perfect sync. this is only one reason why they wouldnt be in sync. whatever the reason, there is NO need to have them in perfect sync, other then aesthetics, like in a game.
+Sincronicity There is an old saying that seems to fit here. "It is better to keep your mouth shut and have people wonder how much you really know then to open it and remove all doubt."
It was great news when I heard that UP3985 is going to be restored back to running condition.
Fire, water, iron and the ingenuity of man -- elemental.
My dream is 3985, 4014, 844 run together....how beautiful!!!
No diesel on point, how refreshing to see a Challenger under it's own steam...
One of the most beautiful sights on the planet!!! Can't wait to see 4014!
Thanks!!
I come from the future. Big Boy 4014 will be worth the wait.
@@MrMarthasville I come from the past. It was.
The one where she's pulling the container train up the hill at the speed limit is better, especially when she passes the container train going down the hill with 10 diesels to power it.
So very glad I caught this pulling the circus train in 2010. Little did I know that it would be the 3985’s next to last trip. And the circus train succumbed to Liberal protestors a few short years later.
Interestingly, it looks like this was from the late 80s, as the 3985's tender seems to be in a coal configuration (unlike with Big Boy 4014 who was converted during restoration, they didn't convert her to oil until 1990).
It is great to see footage of the 3985 in action now that it has been retired from service by the Union Pacific steam program.
It's under restoration by a heritage organization in Silvis, Illinois now with the goal of running it again (they also will try to bring back UP 5511, that huge 2-10-2 that was stored in Cheyenne for decades). UP even donated several passenger cars for them to haul with the two giants.
One of the best videos like this.
And best one I've ever seen.
Short to the point, great camera, sense of anticipation and nice lucky catch on the freight.
hey gerf! buddy i had NO IDEA you were into locos lol. 3985 is one amazing engine ei? hope they restore her in the next coming years...would look mighty nice with the 4014
Its a Challenger, OK I forget, and not a Big Boy, Thanks for reminding me
Thought I saw TWO trains entering that curve... DAMN, a debate about drivers being in synch??? LOL That guy would have a stroke looking at old film of the Pennsy Duplexes! Those suckers could really spin and slip out of synch!!!
I see no diesel helpers. She's big, she's bad, she's UP 3985!!!!
I experienced the dome dining car in service on the City of Los Angeles. Seeing the executive train always brings back fond memories.
If it was a race looks like the steamer is out in front an pulling away.
Hard to believe this was only nine years ago. The resolution is poor. Even for back then? Also, I imagine this must be a " fans only " video as there is no explanation for those of us who love the rails, both steam and diesel, who could use a backstory. Where the hell is Sherman Hill? I gave a thumbs up but think you could do better.
i think it was only posted 9 years ago but filmed well before
@@dustyshackleford8674 That could be, but we're still left to guess which is disappointing. It could be in the 60s when some of the last locos were still sharing the tracks with the diesels. Today I have viewed locos completely restored being put to work on select routes in the present.(2010s)
CARAMBA! ísto que é VIDEO, com som e imagem bem naturais, sem musiquinhas acopladas ou filmagens tremidas ou distorcidas...meus sinceros parabéns!...que continue sempre assim!
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steam train is a soo beautifully machine...
this train use diesel than water
I saw this engine coming through Momence about 20 years ago. Beautiful piece of equipment.
Diesels to Challenger- "You need some help pulling that hill pops?"
Challenger- "step aside rookies, I'll show you how its done."
Respect your elders, diesels.
It's "spanking" that climb
Right, but diesel locomotives have higher tractive effort and better adhesion and they move the heaviest trains on earth in the Pilbara region of Australia.
@@Jemalacane0 Eh diesels aren't about huge power and traction, the biggest benefit by far over steam is their versatility and ability to run in multiple which basically made huge steam locomotives like 4014 obsolete. You can lash together 5 diesels and it'll be far more powerful than any steam locomotive but it still only takes one crew to operate and at the end of it you can split them all apart to pull 5 different trains.
Gammareign this isn’t Australia kiddo
Not a Big Boy, its a challenger.
UP's Steam fleet is really neat. It's sad that the idea of returning older locos for exhibition wasn't around when the UP's Turbine locos were retired. Can you imagine standing next to the track when with one of those rolling past, it would be like having a 747 at full throttle slowly moving past you 😁
Union Pacific 4-6-6-4 Challenger 3985.
Superb machine for doing the job, outstanding for their time, never the like to be seen again.
BIG BOY BAYBE !..
What is stored in the yellow tenders?
Water
Meu nome devia ser, APAIXONADO POR TRENS (FERROCARRILES,TRENES)!
My name is Grenville Dodge...and I approved this video! LOL.
Good video. What year was it recorded ??
A V.I.P. train, I presume? ( hubba hubba ) :-)
Mel aside, challenger, the h Big Boy is a'comin.
I was firing from Rawlins to Cheyenne. Barry R.
6 dome cars! They must have had all the UP executives on that train.
I bet it was standing-room only in those domes as well. What am I talking about? They would have been packed in like sardines!
Awesome🚂
I think this was the start of the 94 Calif trip. If so I was firing here.
wow
Given the location, I don't think it was. It looks like this was shot around the Tie Siding area, which if so, then the train was heading east towards Cheyenne.
Just a question. Why are there diesels often times working with the Challenger?
@@carryfreak5059 There are 3 primary reasons:
1--Protection power in the event of a breakdown on the steam engine
2--For their dynamic braking ability when going down a mountain grade
3--To provide power and lighting for the passenger cars behind the engine
DASCO2136 ok. I get 1 and 3 but The steamers had to do it by themselves before the advent of diesel power so I would think this big boy could handle mountain grades by itself
Fantastic UP passenger video.
Why did they put 6 dome cars on that train? Were the executives loving the scenery or what?
Awesome distant and close up shot!
power biitches...
No diesel assist. Great.
Was this in 94?
Too bad this spot where this is filmed now is off-limits to railfans (if memory serves me right)
I'm 8 at the time of this video
Que flagrante o video
Ficou top👋👋👋
Acc. to my calculations the velocity reaches 80mph. With 50m distance from one telegraph pole to the next. Is US standard 50yds or not?
Not sure about telegraph poles, but power poles are generally 500 ft. I use that to figure out how far I can see in the fog.
@@markantony3875 I didn't say it did. I said 500 feet and I didn't do any math
@@cbmech2563 Meant to reply to the first guy
This thing was no where near 80 mph in this video. Maybe 25-30 mph tops.
That's really nice Gerald
One of those endless American trains.
Awesome catch, the Challenger and a UP Mainifest!
😅.. Mm
KKK kk kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
After waiting 2 minutes, I gave up and watched a Big Boy video.
Poor baby 👶
Good girl, hard worker!
♥.♥
Thanks...
Like!
Was this back in the 80s when 3985 was still a coal burner or from the 90s as a oil burner
there appears to be two liquid fuel tenders and an older water tender behind the engine (or vice versa) either way i'd say oil.
@@vizagothx7294 The two yellow tenders are carrying water, not oil.
uuuF! subir cuesta como cuesta!
Beastie........
Awesome video!
Prachige mooie opname.
That’s a lot of observation cars man!
They're called dome cars. UP called them "Astrodomes." Observation cars are tail cars with round ends or in the old days, brass railings for politicians speeches.
At first I was going to call this digital bogus... then I did many gnat's ass detail comparisons... and.. I find zero faults. So unless someone is REAL good at video overlay, with lots of spare time on their hands, it is, in fact, a six-and-a-half minute span with two trains. Definitely a once-in-a-lifetime place to be standing with a camera. Very cool!
looks like someone never saw the conversation above.
2020 rail fan
Weird mix of diesels...
Not really. One Progress SD and two GE's. I see mixes like this every day in front of my place at Sunset Falls in Index WA. It is nice to see more SD's as I am sick of seeing so many GE's. A BNSF engineer made an interesting comment a couple of days ago that the ge loco's were a lot cheaper then the Progress SD's and that is why the railroads invested heavily in them for a while. Also given the the EPA tried to put EMD out of business, they had some catching up to do. But Progress is on the rise in a really big way. Starting to see trains with only Progress Locos, and no GE. . EMD/Progress still has the majority of patents on locomotive technology, some of which you can not get on a GE, and I suspect that they charge accordingly for some of those innovative features.
I agree with 3RTracing. I even saw an ancient SD (45, I think) doing yard hosteling goat work last week with brand new BNSF livery paint.. so I would guess they plan on keeping it around. What I'd really love to see would be the UP to round up a few of the old 6900s, paint them up nice and send them out on the line across the nation in a pretty little set for the public (at least those of us who know the difference) to oogle over.
All the engines are EMDs SD 60m and A SD 40
Modern diesels are boring, how about a few GeePs or F-units ;-)
It was 2 EMD SD60Ms bracketing an SD40-2. The lead SD60M 6133 has the original 3 window wide cab design affectionately called 'tri-clops'. The trailing SD60M 6314, had the newer two window design that became standard on later EMD wide cab designs
wind sock ?
You mean, "Wind Screen"...
Ty
WOW Biig Boy!!!!! ;-))
Kevin Berger Dasa Challenger
Isso e uma maria fumaça
Ou e inpreção minha
Ainda existe??
Sim, vc pd pesquisar o Big Boy 4014, foi restaurado esse ano!!!
An era that will never come again, though we may reminisce.
¡ Extraordinario !, que conjunciòn de vapor y Diesel ; pasajeros y mercancìas. Muchas gracias.
Anyonr for a fantrip?
This is a bogus video of the Challenger. It's been inserted through some animation photoshop type program. The proof is the Challenger in Steam's Train Simulator. The driving wheels are synchronized, so this cannot be a real Challenger! I wish I had been around at the time of steam. It was at the end of phasing out when I was growing up, but still remember seeing the engines when I was maybe 5 yoa. My dad had taken me to a roundhouse where they were working on steam loco's. Loved watching your vid. Two thumbs up.
+Sincronicity not to be an ass, but this is one of those cases where u should keep your mouth shut to keep from proving yourself a fool. this IS NOT photoshoped, its the real challenger. you do realize that in ts, its a stylized version of the trains, right? in real life, one group of drivers can spin while the other group keeps traction. never ever EVER will you see both sets of drivers in perfect sync. this is only one reason why they wouldnt be in sync. whatever the reason, there is NO need to have them in perfect sync, other then aesthetics, like in a game.
+Sincronicity There is an old saying that seems to fit here. "It is better to keep your mouth shut and have people wonder how much you really know then to open it and remove all doubt."
This is a actual video shot in 94 on the way to Calif, I know because I was firing her. . It is not bogus.
Jugdish Dinesh you realize that I a GAME the drivers were never sincronized
You sir win Idiot of the Year award 🥇
Neat :)