I know i've said this before, and i'm not sure who will read it. The production levels on these videos is best on youtube, hands down. The editing and videography are just unlike anything else, even better than stuff you see on TV. Keep it up!
May I suggest the International Harvester 345 for your next "unique" motor tear-down and build. Scout II's are gaining in popularity, as are most 4x4's from the late 60's and early 70's. Would be fun to see you guys do a 1976 US Ski Team tribute Scout II (which is what I hope to day when I'm finished with my current Scout II project).
That rolling shot through the rod big ends is legendary. Also, the bearings in that thing look fantastic, especially given the condition of the oil and sludge.
Davin: "Get out in the shop. Get your work done. There's a beautiful day waiting on you..." Me: Looks out window at the current "nor'easter" passing through... Hey, I'm with ya Davin - in spirit, anyways. :-) -Ed on the Ridge
Enjoyed it) That "go get your work done" magic at some point will definitely make me a proud owner of my own not-yet-existing shop)) Thanks Davin! Keep going)
I had the 365 in my 58 cadillac rebuilt in 2011. 1st rebuild. Parents bought it in 1960. They did a good job, running beautifully. Tons of blow by was the reason. Has NONE NOW!!LOL 😊
Standing in front of the camera while working and explaining what's going on is difficult, and you make it look easy. Great job!! Also, camera equipment in some shots is nice to see. Even camera man's shoes is genius. Thanks.
Love watching these. Please please please get rid of that alternator and go back to the generator. Or at least get one of the alternators that looks like a generator.
Davin , You missed a very critical operation on this tear down told to me by Smokey Yunick decades ago. Always check side clearance of each pair of rods before you remove the rod caps and make a paper trail as you need to match ware of each rod bearing to the rod clearance to see if there might be a restriction from to tight a rod clearance. Also if you do loosen the side clearance on the rods it can allow more cool oil to get into the bearings even with a stock GM 35 pound oil pump. I always replace my oil pumps with a Mellings high pressure/ standard volume pump with all BOP motors and open up the side clearance from factory set up of around .004 to .006 per pair to .010 to .012 after cheeking the rods on a surface grinder as it could free up a few hp ! , Ask Mike Thirlby about this.
I always thought Chevy pioneered the cross-flow cooling system with the aluminum-headed LT1 in the 5 gen Corvette. Nice to see Cadillac doing this back in the 50s.
I don't think this engine is. It is a traditional coolant path, as far as I know, where the coolant enters the block and exits the heads. It is just that the crossover is bolted on the front of the head instead of through the intake. Some early Pontiac V8 engines had reverse flow but they changed course and went to more traditional flow later on. Reverse flow needs a system to manage vapor buildup where traditional flow will simply let the vapor out through the thermostat and it can rise to the top of the radiator and be burped out to the overflow tank.
@@geoffmooregm - after reviewing the video I think you're right. The coolant passages are exiting the front of the cylinder head as opposed to the lifter/intake valley. Guess Cadillac did this to partially separate the intake from the cooling system to minimize heat retention. Anyways - good eye!
Measured for driveshaft length before I took the transmission out of my basket case project. Engine has set rebuilt for 20 years. Time to pull it apart and fix all the fixes that we have learned in 20 yrs.
Great work-very interesting. At 13:00 Dave mentions that the lifters looked like 50k miles or so of wear. What he did not see but the camera did was that the bottom of the lifter was worn badly concave. A new lifter's bottom is slightly convex so the mileage looks more like 150K!
I guess you'll be rebuilding the top end given those odd water channels. Don't think I've ever seen that before. Another very interesting build! Glued as usual...
If you like disassembly, (I mentioned on another of your vids) A guy that publishes under "I Do Cars", well done and entertaining. He buys engines, usually blown, and disassembles for parting out items for sale. Usually later model engines.
Years ago I tore down a 54 Cadillac V8. And while doing so I noticed so many similarities to a small block Chevy. If you look at the timing cover and where that water pump bolts on it looks like Chevrolet. And the reason is when the engineers that came over from Cadillac to Chevrolet to design the new V8 the pattern is much after the 49 Cadillac V8. That 54 engine and possibly this one I haven’t got that far in the video has 17 bolts for the cylinder head. Eight on the bottom five in the middle and four on top. This engine is a little bit of an upgrade from the 54. But for certain if you read about the history of the Chevrolet engine quite a few of those engineers came from Cadillac
I'm surprised that Cadillac had a bypass type oil filter in 1957 when other manufacturers had spin on disposable oil filter elements. And the sludge in the engine might not be from any lack of servicing, but due to the oil quality back in the late 1950s. Motor oil has come a long way since then.
Thank you for a great video. I have found the crusty build up in older engines related to ring sealing. The combustion going past the rings causes heat to increase in the crankcase. The heat and the old oil with acids forms sand like carbon in the crankcase.
He said traditional oil pump, lol. Just poking fun. The lower part of the oil pump was a vacuum pump that fed the vacuum wiper system, so you could go full throttle up a hill in the rain and still have vacuum to run the wipers.
I had a 23T pickup back in the 70’s with a 56 Caddy 365 2 4 barrels and a 4 speed automatic,l through a rod and still didn’t destroy the block but for a young postman it cost me big bucks in those days like 76 roughly ...
Back in the early 1980's I tore down a 1976 Pontiac 350 for a lifter noise.The owner bragged about owning it from new and changing the oil every 2- 3k miles but he had use Sears brand oil straight weight non detergent oil and when I opened it up @ 80K it was the worst engine I had ever seen for sludge build up and had that hard oil burnt on coke buildup on the bottom side of the intake manifold where the exhaust crossover was. The quality of the oil used makes a big difference in how clean an engine stays, probably as much as how often you change it.
Many retired people had a Cadillac and they would go to the grocery store and maybe on a trip to the airport so miles put on them were short and sludge building. I have seen that in a town with a retirement community any car(30 years ago) driven like that needs an ATF treatment before the oil change and that just quiets the lifters. Then their hippy kid, or not, would get it!
I can’t help but also wonder if the sludge may also be due to the older Non-detergent oils. I think sometimes we forget that the older oils were good, but our chemical work has really come along way from where we were.
So glad you're back at it! It's just a feeling but this caddy 365 wasn't exactly dated by the time it came out right? They seem to have been on top of their game back then.
The black fouled plugs are a result of an overly rich mixture. If the plugs are actually oil fouled, then this is a clear indication of worn valve guides and or valve seals. Worn oil control rings will produce the same oil fouling on the plug as well. In any event, a complete rebuild is necessary.
I rebuilt one of those about 20 years ago and the oil pump housing was cracked. It delayed the rebuild by 6 months because finding another one and a rebuild kit for it was very difficult.
Yeah , this is more fun because it costs no money and tells us what your starting with plus you still have lunch money in your pocket as when the motor is finished, your eating old bean soup for weeks ! lol . Been there done that .
"first start up", oh, you mean the unwanted hour spent finding what ground you forgot to hook-up or is too corroded to work/ the inevitable distributor being 180° off (so you think) and then changing it back when you realize you shouldn't have second guessed yourself. The 5 cent o-ring that you never knew existed, that is keeping something from doing it's job. The battery that tried it's best all dozen attempts to turn the prick over...
@@sethdunlap7009 I see you’ve done this before. I’ll add. Finishing up and finding a bolt or 2 and wondering where it was supposed to go and second guessing working until 3am on no sleep
Davin is like our own version of Punxsutawney Phil, he sees his own shadow in the middle of a blizzard, except he calls it Spring and not 6 more weeks of Winter. Optimistic? Sure, but why not? Yet he already knows he needs new pistons, without and holes in the pistons or heavy gouges or rust... Let's hotrod this Caddy and put in a bigger cam.
In my lifetime I've only disassembled and rebuilt a couple engines. My question is, "Where do the inevitable 'extra bolts' come from when the motor is put back together?"
Cadillac had a reputation of excellence and power, what aspects of the engineering would lead you to believe this is an exceptional engine. How were they used for hot rods back in the 50's?
That zoom thru the con rod big ends was trippy! Always an anticipatory pleasure to see what tricks the video guy(s) will show us in an episode.
You should see the camera that can capture those shots, it’s a funky looking thing lol
AGREED !!
Yes, Davin, I spent the last weekend with my son working on a project car of his. Wonderful experience sharing the time with him ❤.
This past weekend I took apart a mechanical wrist watch, cleaned, reassembled, lubed and regulated.
My dad helps me a lot with my project car as well, it’s a really good experience
This is a really wholesome comment. Good for you buddy!!!
Just me letting hagerty know i appreciate that they record in 4K
Love the art added to just tearing down an engine... you folks get it.
I love tearing old engines down! Just seeing how things were done and extrapolating why. Every day is an education.
I like the intake port angle! This is the first Cadillac engine I've ever seen. Very interesting design.
The double wrench trick 😂 love it..
FINALLY!!! Cadillac 365!
I know i've said this before, and i'm not sure who will read it. The production levels on these videos is best on youtube, hands down. The editing and videography are just unlike anything else, even better than stuff you see on TV. Keep it up!
May I suggest the International Harvester 345 for your next "unique" motor tear-down and build. Scout II's are gaining in popularity, as are most 4x4's from the late 60's and early 70's. Would be fun to see you guys do a 1976 US Ski Team tribute Scout II (which is what I hope to day when I'm finished with my current Scout II project).
That rolling shot through the rod big ends is legendary. Also, the bearings in that thing look fantastic, especially given the condition of the oil and sludge.
That engine is immaculate to start with. Doesn’t get better than that.
Notice! All hand tools, no impacts during tare down. The sign of a true Mechanic. Its all about the feel.
Davin: "Get out in the shop. Get your work done. There's a beautiful day waiting on you..."
Me: Looks out window at the current "nor'easter" passing through...
Hey, I'm with ya Davin - in spirit, anyways. :-)
-Ed on the Ridge
Always a pleasure watching a master at work the redline series are my favorites
What blows me away is the lighting .... whomever does the light on these video shoots ... two thumbs up
Perfect photography and scenes! Greeting from Greece!
I did a quick search and pistons and whole rebuild kits in the early engines are easy to get . ENJOYED !!
They were right about "more Davin" awesome
Enjoyed it) That "go get your work done" magic at some point will definitely make me a proud owner of my own not-yet-existing shop)) Thanks Davin! Keep going)
Love to see someone building up an odd ball engine eventually I want to rebuild my 305 v6 in my gmc
Do it. The Jimmy V-6s are torque monsters.
Just me letting Hagerty know that I appreciate them let me watch Davin rebuild with such class and awesomeness.
Great start! Always something to learn Davin! Look forward to what's next!
I had the 365 in my 58 cadillac rebuilt in 2011. 1st rebuild. Parents bought it in 1960. They did a good job, running beautifully. Tons of blow by was the reason. Has NONE NOW!!LOL 😊
Love the breakdown... WOW... thanks Davin
I like the ending encouraging to get guys out to the shop. Thanks
Love that Caddy engine. I had a 59 while in college.
Very Cool Video! Happy moment whenever a new Redline video pops up in the feed. Good work Y'all!
Standing in front of the camera while working and explaining what's going on is difficult, and you make it look easy. Great job!! Also, camera equipment in some shots is nice to see. Even camera man's shoes is genius. Thanks.
It's just magic! Congrats!! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Nice photography and lighting!
Love watching these. Please please please get rid of that alternator and go back to the generator. Or at least get one of the alternators that looks like a generator.
Davin , You missed a very critical operation on this tear down told to me by Smokey Yunick decades ago. Always check side clearance of each pair of rods before you remove the rod caps and make a paper trail as you need to match ware of each rod bearing to the rod clearance to see if there might be a restriction from to tight a rod clearance. Also if you do loosen the side clearance on the rods it can allow more cool oil to get into the bearings even with a stock GM 35 pound oil pump. I always replace my oil pumps with a Mellings high pressure/ standard volume pump with all BOP motors and open up the side clearance from factory set up of around .004 to .006 per pair to .010 to .012 after cheeking the rods on a surface grinder as it could free up a few hp ! , Ask Mike Thirlby about this.
Wow. That was entertaining. Great content. Great camera work. Thanks for doing this. Keep 'em coming.
Thank You. La Pine Oregon
Those shop cart/tables are great.
YEA MAN! Not many know the two wrench method to break bolts free
Great video talents and engaging narrative. You guys never fail to entertain and teach us. I love the old stuff.
I always thought Chevy pioneered the cross-flow cooling system with the aluminum-headed LT1 in the 5 gen Corvette. Nice to see Cadillac doing this back in the 50s.
I don't think this engine is. It is a traditional coolant path, as far as I know, where the coolant enters the block and exits the heads. It is just that the crossover is bolted on the front of the head instead of through the intake.
Some early Pontiac V8 engines had reverse flow but they changed course and went to more traditional flow later on. Reverse flow needs a system to manage vapor buildup where traditional flow will simply let the vapor out through the thermostat and it can rise to the top of the radiator and be burped out to the overflow tank.
@@geoffmooregm - after reviewing the video I think you're right. The coolant passages are exiting the front of the cylinder head as opposed to the lifter/intake valley. Guess Cadillac did this to partially separate the intake from the cooling system to minimize heat retention. Anyways - good eye!
Snap on should sponsor Davin with it's cordless power tools.
Love the videography. Best of any automotive channel.
Measured for driveshaft length before I took the transmission out of my basket case project. Engine has set rebuilt for 20 years. Time to pull it apart and fix all the fixes that we have learned in 20 yrs.
Great work-very interesting. At 13:00 Dave mentions that the lifters looked like 50k miles or so of wear. What he did not see but the camera did was that the bottom of the lifter was worn badly concave. A new lifter's bottom is slightly convex so the mileage looks more like 150K!
Interesting about the hoses going aft. My 1954 Buick had a back seat seat heater with hoses run to it. There was a separate blower switch as well.
Nice tear down.. takes me back :)
There is so much buildup that the internal parts of the engine look like BRASS.
I guess you'll be rebuilding the top end given those odd water channels. Don't think I've ever seen that before. Another very interesting build! Glued as usual...
If you like disassembly, (I mentioned on another of your vids) A guy that publishes under "I Do Cars", well done and entertaining. He buys engines, usually blown, and disassembles for parting out items for sale. Usually later model engines.
that water pump's crazy!
Great start!
I wish it was a beautiful day lol I'm in Maine right now and its a blizzard outside. I gotta wait to get my stuff done.
Awesome tear down. Cool stuff.
Years ago I tore down a 54 Cadillac V8. And while doing so I noticed so many similarities to a small block Chevy. If you look at the timing cover and where that water pump bolts on it looks like Chevrolet. And the reason is when the engineers that came over from Cadillac to Chevrolet to design the new V8 the pattern is much after the 49 Cadillac V8. That 54 engine and possibly this one I haven’t got that far in the video has 17 bolts for the cylinder head. Eight on the bottom five in the middle and four on top. This engine is a little bit of an upgrade from the 54. But for certain if you read about the history of the Chevrolet engine quite a few of those engineers came from Cadillac
Can someone explain why I love seeing a timelapse being filmed with a timelapse.
I'm surprised that Cadillac had a bypass type oil filter in 1957 when other manufacturers had spin on disposable oil filter elements. And the sludge in the engine might not be from any lack of servicing, but due to the oil quality back in the late 1950s. Motor oil has come a long way since then.
I was just about to write the same. I recall the early 60s as the arrival time for detergent oils.
Very true.. oil now is rather incredible.. While gas on the other hand...
@@hawkdsl Exactly.
Thank you for a great video. I have found the crusty build up in older engines related to ring sealing. The combustion going past the rings causes heat to increase in the crankcase. The heat and the old oil with acids forms sand like carbon in the crankcase.
He said traditional oil pump, lol. Just poking fun. The lower part of the oil pump was a vacuum pump that fed the vacuum wiper system, so you could go full throttle up a hill in the rain and still have vacuum to run the wipers.
I had a 23T pickup back in the 70’s with a 56 Caddy 365 2 4 barrels and a 4 speed automatic,l through a rod and still didn’t destroy the block but for a young postman it cost me big bucks in those days like 76 roughly ...
Can't wait to see the time lapse in a few months :D
Back in the early 1980's I tore down a 1976 Pontiac 350 for a lifter noise.The owner bragged about owning it from new and changing the oil every 2- 3k miles but he had use Sears brand oil straight weight non detergent oil and when I opened it up @ 80K it was the worst engine I had ever seen for sludge build up and had that hard oil burnt on coke buildup on the bottom side of the intake manifold where the exhaust crossover was. The quality of the oil used makes a big difference in how clean an engine stays, probably as much as how often you change it.
Cool. Good platform to start with.
Many retired people had a Cadillac and they would go to the grocery store and maybe on a trip to the airport so miles put on them were short and sludge building. I have seen that in a town with a retirement community any car(30 years ago) driven like that needs an ATF treatment before the oil change and that just quiets the lifters. Then their hippy kid, or not, would get it!
Thank you
This a great engine sir.
Complete engine rebuild kits are available from old car specially companies. No problem.
Привіт! Завжди цікаво дивитись ваші відео, лайк!
My wife says I watch your vid with open mouth. I do, And I really like it.
Great show!
Man its good to see you're still around to drink coffee and work on cars. Lol I thought you went on to the upper room.
Speedway Motors has the pistons & rings you need but they get them from Egge which has the entire overhaul kit
Amazing stuff guys.
I can’t help but also wonder if the sludge may also be due to the older Non-detergent oils. I think sometimes we forget that the older oils were good, but our chemical work has really come along way from where we were.
I really regret letting go of my 472 Caddy. I wish I had kept it.
Cool new build!
So glad you're back at it! It's just a feeling but this caddy 365 wasn't exactly dated by the time it came out right? They seem to have been on top of their game back then.
Haven't watched yet but can't wait to see
Speedway Motors has pistons, rings, and bearings for the 365!
Wanna see a 58 chev 348 tear down, put back together and Dynoed :))
Speedway motor carries classic caddy stuff
Many thanks for share. 👏👏👏👏
The black fouled plugs are a result of an overly rich mixture. If the plugs are actually oil fouled, then this is a clear indication of worn valve guides and or valve seals. Worn oil control rings will produce the same oil fouling on the plug as well. In any event, a complete rebuild is necessary.
EGGE MACHINE out here in Santafesprings Ca. They make pistons rings bearings etc. But you probably new that already.
Rockauto still lists piston rings for the 365
Where he said “vise grips on the crank” ???
Pipe wrench would be my guess.🤨
What a fantastic job he must have??
Big 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻 great video!!!
Love these 🎥
cool shot were the camera goes through the rods 12:22
GREAT JOB, GREAT VIDEO, [ NOW LET'S GO TO WORK... ]
You are the Best.
Looks almost like a 90 degree V! Guess I'm used to seeing much narrower blocks. So smooth that would run. Wonder what it'll sound like
legend 👌👌👌
Hope you replace the modern alternator with a 1957-era generator for proper period-correct look and operation.
Love it!
I rebuilt one of those about 20 years ago and the oil pump housing was cracked. It delayed the rebuild by 6 months because finding another one and a rebuild kit for it was very difficult.
“It’s better than everything in the middle and the end”
Really, it’s better than first startup?
Yeah , this is more fun because it costs no money and tells us what your starting with plus you still have lunch money in your pocket as when the motor is finished, your eating old bean soup for weeks ! lol . Been there done that .
"first start up", oh, you mean the unwanted hour spent finding what ground you forgot to hook-up or is too corroded to work/ the inevitable distributor being 180° off (so you think) and then changing it back when you realize you shouldn't have second guessed yourself. The 5 cent o-ring that you never knew existed, that is keeping something from doing it's job. The battery that tried it's best all dozen attempts to turn the prick over...
@@sethdunlap7009 yes
@@sethdunlap7009 I see you’ve done this before. I’ll add. Finishing up and finding a bolt or 2 and wondering where it was supposed to go and second guessing working until 3am on no sleep
"First start up", on the relieve of anxiety you didn't mess something up. Dude is that a oil leak?
07:20 love it
Davin is like our own version of Punxsutawney Phil, he sees his own shadow in the middle of a blizzard, except he calls it Spring and not 6 more weeks of Winter. Optimistic? Sure, but why not? Yet he already knows he needs new pistons, without and holes in the pistons or heavy gouges or rust... Let's hotrod this Caddy and put in a bigger cam.
For pistons and rings, try Egge Machine Co. Or maybe Sealed Power. Also, there's a place called Caddy Daddy I've gotten parts from as well
Verry good! Intresting
In my lifetime I've only disassembled and rebuilt a couple engines. My question is, "Where do the inevitable 'extra bolts' come from when the motor is put back together?"
Cadillac had a reputation of excellence and power, what aspects of the engineering would lead you to believe this is an exceptional engine. How were they used for hot rods back in the 50's?