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- I'm back at it again with more Code Violations. This time I delve into the wonderful world of Plumbing. Watch, listen, and learn as I take you on a Plumbing Code Violation Voyage.
amzn.to/3XRat2H (2018 International Plumbing Code)
Outstanding job. Thank you. Washington State just put me out of business as a small General Contractor since I can-not by law sub-contract my Plumbing or Electrical. I didn't even know about the law as no else did either since they passed it while the shut downs. I received a 1500.00 fine just for having lighting and plumbing in my keywords (not my service directory-just key words off internet to bring people to the website). I used to do bathrooms and kitchens but now I'll have to switch to spec homes. The only contractors that can afford a Administrative plumber and Electritian are the big box and unions. Legislatures go with whoever has the money-nothing new in Wa.
Wow...interesting. I hope everything works out.
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Please clarify what you mean by you can not sub contract your plumbing and electrical. General contractors hire sub contractors. You must mean, you were doing plumbing and electrical yourself, or your keywords led people to believe you were licensed to do it.
@@Californians_go_home exactly what I was thinking lol. I'm an employee of a general contractor for remodeling in western NY, and normally people choose general contractors because they act as the intermediary for all of the different trades that need to come in to do work
On the first tankless water heater, you can vent less than 2’ with a particular cap on the outside. The way they have it is wrong because the intake would be sucking in the exhaust. On the water piping in the basement, that’s the worst plumbing job I’ve ever seen. Those lines should be either ran in an area where there may be a bulkhead or up in the joists. Suppose the homeowner wants to finish that basement at some point. Now on the sump pump, I’ve never heard of venting a sump pump crock, only a sewage ejector crock. Loved the video.
Where are you located?…what code book are you referencing?
Just found your channel. As an electrician, I know a lot of those type violations. As for the building/construction/plumbing ones, I never thought there are so many rules. I learned a lot. I can see the tradesman see you walk up to a new building thinking..."oh noooo it's Renaldo...were in trouble." lol
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@Kernica1 Then why can't we use Romex?
and he responds, "Yup violations everywhere already...its in your face"
I learned a lot of new codes I was unware of. Great how you scroll the IPC up on the screen. Very thorough thank you.
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I just found your channel. Glad to see an instructor who really cares about code. Thank you. More videos please!
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@@PPG1967 I really enjoy applying code on my job. It's refreshing to hear someone actually using it. Thank you!
Like any rule or law there are always exceptions and doesn’t mean a real problem
You seriously have taught me so much. And probably saved me thousands. Thank you!
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Excellent videos, and excellent addition of the pictures showing the proper device that could be installed the resolved issue.
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2 minutes in already, paused just to say thank you and i appreciate what your doing, Im the type of person who really learns from others mistakes. I really want to my builds to be quality and per code specifications. 'Pure Heat your dropping.
Manners and Respect
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Love it can't get enough of these heaters
As always, very instructive. I love to learn!
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Thank you for these videos, they are very informative and as an apprentice plumber very helpful
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I'm a commercial plumbing apprentice. 3rd yr. Plumbing for 6. On and off union 32 and 26. I find residential, having workrd it in the past, a totally different world. Not just the wood studs
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In the Oregon plumbing specialty code you're allowed to "flat vent" vent lines per 905.1
Oh ok...what Plumbing Code are you using??
@@PPG1967 it's basically the UPC
Here in NC, venting for gas tankless water heaters must be no less than 12” apart. You can utilize internal air as long as you have the correct cubic sq ft for the btu. Also the thermal expansion tank can be mounted on “rigid” pipe, such as copper.
God I want a plumbe in New York it’s basically the exact same as San Francisco Plumbing well how it used to be like anyways now they’re starting to use plastics and things of that nature that it was all cast-iron and it was all real Plumbing and everything was tight in right God I want a Plumbing New York
They also prop up pipes on loose wood chocks with plastic band iron straps. 😂
Excellent eye, spot on, good video.
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I just subscribed to your channel. I can learn a lot from you, stuff I never knew
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Thanks, great job, very informative.
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Hey thank you for the post. Especially appreciated the part about having water hammer arresters for washing machines that is something I didn't know.
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Just came across your post, I love it.
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1:36 Think you missed a violation here. PEX piping cannot be directly tied into a water heater, 18" minimum. This is why they make flexible water heater supplies at 18" long
It's in the video sir... all code references are out of the 2018 IPC, International Plumbing Code. Not the Uniform Plumbing Code (UPC)...two different code books.
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Great video, thank you for share
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Great video. Keep them coming
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I think the water hammer arrester might vary by State/Local depending on if they adopted the entire Plumbing Code.
I just looked up the plumbing code for California and it doesn't look like they require arresters, I'm not an expert so you should check with your local building department. Here is the CA Code:
609.10 Water Hammer
[Not adopted by HCD] Building water supply systems where quick-acting valves are installed shall be provided with water hammer arrester(s) to absorb high pressures resulting from the quick closing of these valves. Water hammer arresters shall be approved mechanical devices in accordance with ASSE 1010 or PDIWH 201 and shall be installed as close as possible to quick-acting valves. HCD is Housing and Community Development.
You are correct in most states the expansion tank is sufficient
Hey man! You only need to know three things to be a plumber. They are 1. Poop don't flow up hill. 2. Friday is payday. 3. The boss is a SOB! Learn it, love it, and use it!
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Good video.
On the end of the video regarding the sump pump that’s tied into the drainage system here in Colorado that’s illegal. Where are you located? Also, but at some pump here in Colorado event is not required only on a sewage ejection.
I'm in Georgia. We use the IPC (International Plumbing Code)
Good video!! I assume part 2 is going to be released soon. How common are violations dealing with drilling studs and joists in your area?
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You really a sharp plumbing inspector, good up the excellent job you're doing. Lot of plumber's today just don't care about work manship.
Glad I came across this!
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@@PPG1967 I was a handyman for about 15 years. You cannot imagine the amount of fuckery the 20 years of homeowners doing plumbing repairs and electrical repairs under a sink can lead to lol.
Yeah switch out the faucet should be you know half an hour 45 minutes tops. 6 hours in with a Dremel tool ...
Save the sink!!!.
Are having a six-way gang box with six extension cords under the sink holes drilled into the cabinet bases to run the extension cords to the outside through a cat door and to the inside because it was an old house..." I don't know why it keeps popping but I'm tired of it...
Thank you and keep up the great videos
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Great video.
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thank you for taking the time to make these videos, I have really enjoyed them. I have one question. In the 2018 IPC on page ix under effective use of the international plumbing code it states, The IPC is a model code that regulates the design and the installation of plumbing systems including the plumbing fixtures in all types of buildings except for detached one and two-family dwellings and town houses that are not more than 3 stories above grade in height. In the videos you reference the IPC so is the unit you're inspecting multi-family? I'm just trying to make sure I am referencing the right code book for the right application. thank you.
The codes in the IRC are straight out of the IPC. For example, in the video, I referenced section 409.4 in the IPC, which is in the IRC at P2717.2. I also referenced section 312.5 in the video, which is in the IRC at P2503.7.
@@PPG1967 thank you for clarifying that.
Appreciate it. How are violations handled? Does work have to stop are there fines given?
The violations must be corrected before they can schedule a re-inspection. Typically the jurisdiction will charge a fee ($50) that must be paid before they can rescheduled.
very informative. Thank you.
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Plumber here in California. We use the CPC or California Plumbing Code 2019. It's just the UPC (Uniform Plumbing Code) but with its own little twists on things.
UPC requires strapping for expansion tank (608.3), earthquake straps (507.2), smitty pan (507.5), and the pex cannot tie into the water heater for the first 18 inches. Needs to be copper (604.13). Also, the piping for the water heater's t&p needs to go to an approved location. Can be outside or to a floor sink. Just cant drain to the floor and cause damages. Same thing with the smitty pan (608.5).
If I remember correctly, tankless can draw air from the inside, but it needs to have enough room. Its figured out using a formula found in the book (506.2.2). It is important to check the manufacturer's install instructions cause depending on the location, you may need to get air from the outside anyways or purchase a special filter made for those applications.
Also, PEX is the only plastic allowed to be tested by air due to how well it expands. PVC will shatter with air (it's not pretty, I've seen it.) (609.4) PEX is in the exceptions below the code.
UPC is the only code that allows the vents to be level at minimum (905.1) (unless it is below the flood level (6" above the highest plumbing fixture)) at which case it is treated as a drain until its above that level. (905.3)
Im not 100% sure you can use pex as the dischaege piping for the relief valve.
Both of our codes share the fact the hot water needs to be insulated (609.11) and a few others.
Dishwasher drain hose needs to connect into an air gap befor discharging into drain. (807.3)
Lastly, our code doesnt allow air admittance valves. So cant comment on the last part, looks interesting, Though.
Here is a online version of our book.
epubs.iapmo.org/2018/UPCITM/#p=1
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I believed fresh air Intake doesn’t have to be outside if there is enough combustible air in the room installed? Is that not true it does actually list it in the manual for Navien Tankless units. But if that code changed that would be huge to know for sure?
Very informative Video , Does this apply to all states , or The state your current located , If so whitch state ?
So, it's whatever state has adopted the 2018 IPC (International Plumbing Code)
For the insulation of the hot water pipes if they were ram through the joists with the insulation that’s existing would that make code or regardless you have to insulate the pipe
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I had my HVAC vent my furnace out side by side intake and exhaust 1 feet from each other, when it got below 0 it would freeze the intake causing snow/ice blockage shutting off furnace that i had to clear in order to re-start furnace. Had to extend 3 feet away and angle exhaust outward not downward toward ground solved problem. I can see why venting tank-less water heater the same way, would cause similar problem i had.
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Me too. Got fed up and routed them 10 feet apart.
Hi. I am new to your channel. Is this applicable nationally. I would think. I always thought that municipality are to protect the consumer but I don’t know where to go any more.
So, my videos are based on ICC Code Books. That video references the 2018 IPC (International Plumbing Code). Check to see if your city or state has adopted this Code Book.
Remember Code is Law!!
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What is the code violation on the fresh air intake on the tankless water heater in the utility room? According to the manufacturer's installation if you have enough cubic inch of fresh air space per btus fresh air can be use from the inside of the house. Now that being said that particular brand may require it to come from outside but you stated it was a code violation. Which one?
Yes, the intake and exhaust must terminate on the exterior..per manufacturer's installation instructions.
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@@PPG1967 yes 🙌🏾. Manufacturers specifications trump the code in some instances
Was the relief drain on that water heater in 1 inch pex? By code the relief has to be 1 inch pex or 3/4 copper.
I think was 3/4"...I think code says it must be 3/4"
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2018 UPC section 905.1 states that vent pipes can be level or graded. Also see figure 905.1
So, my videos... and I've stated this a million times, only reference the 2018 IPC (International Plumbing Code) not the UPC (Uniform Plumbing Code). I live in Georgia, the I.C.C. Code Books are the ones we've adopted.
You guys kill me.. you watch my videos to find something inaccurate, instead of taking this opportunity to learn something new...nice try sir 😅
I noticed that the dish washer that hooked up to the garbage disposal didn't have a high loop either 😅
Thanks for sharing this video and please keep them coming.
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Dishwashers have a high loop installed on the side of the dishwasher so the one under the sink is not really necessary but I always looped them up just to keep as much stagnant water out of the line as possible. Realistically there should be an air gap on top of the sink but that’s one code that most inspectors realize is stupid.
@@BlueDart1971 your right there’s a high loop on the side of the dishwasher, inspectors in my county will fail one every time if you don’t have a secondary high loop. But you are right my friend. Have a good work week.
@@plumbbuild6517 my work week doesn’t involve plumbing very often anymore. It involves renters paying me:) After 30+ years of plumbing my body is shot. To all of you that work your butt off every day make sure you take care of your body.
Hmm, where I'm located, you'd need an air-gap, not just a high-loop. Though I do understand that not every AHJ has implemented or enforces this requirement.
Two questions. Does the trade have to be there for the inspection also do you tell them exactly what needs to be done?
No, the trade does not have to be there. It's to their advantage to be present at the inspection, so they can fully understand any violations. I normally email the results.
@@PPG1967 in your emailing or any inspectors, do they say exactly what’s wrong and what to satisfy?
@@joshuacassino7297 yes
This is what happens when you hire a builder who attempts to do all of the different trades by himself or believed his coke head brother in law when he told him he was a plumber years ago before he hurt his back on the job and is still waiting for his settlement even though he never filed a worker’s comp claim but still found a shady lawyer who is filing lawsuits against his former employer who was nothing more then a general contractor who hired this guy as a subcontractor and 1099ed his ass at the end of the year .
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@@PPG1967 thanks I has just trolling a little bit but anyone who’s in the building trades knows someone who my original comment applies too. Whoever the Plumber was on this job wasn’t the target of my comment, I didn’t get to see enough of his work to criticize the final rough in part of the job.
Oddly specific details.
The one about testing the dwv by having the water to the highest fixture confuses me. Since the shower pan and the tub have different flood rims, wouldn’t it be impossible to have them both filled completely?
So, you just plug the shower drains and fill the bathtubs up to the overflow outlet. It's about making sure the sanitary lines are full of water.
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On the tankless, how come y’all don’t use I pex pipe?Secondary where is your copper 18 inches off the other water heater?And on the other tankless can you use the atmosphere air in the room? Vent can run flat besides the main vent by international code?you can’t trap sewer gas on a flat vent. most dishwashers have the loop built on the side of them look in the manufacturer book.
What code book are you referencing???....my videos are based on the IPC, not the UPC.
You are half right on some thing, venting of tankless water heaters need to be approved exhaust pipe. Pvc is not allowed for exhaust. Pex pipe has to be 24 inches from top of heater. Intake air can come from basement as long as there is enough square feet per btu. Never heard of water test for pex water lines, if it holds air it will hold water.
What code book are you referencing???...my videos based on the IRC or IPC.
As much I hate the codes same time I appreciate your help and explanation
pex coming directly from a water heater is a fail in some areas. They want atleast 12” copper or metal braid around here
So, we use the IPC (International Plumbing Code) not the UPC.
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I think you are adorable and I love listening to you talk code violations ❤
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PEX can’t be that close to water heater right? It wasn’t done in this case, but is a valve on the hot water side of a water heater against code?
These videos are based on the IPC, not the UPC.
On sump pumps you need to check with the manufacturer specifications first. Air admittance valves are allowed on many of these units. Read the installation manual. Personally I have not installed a unit that has allowed it. Zoeller or Little Giant.
So, you're saying they are not allowed ??
@@PPG1967 Correct, in short state and local code will require that the manufacture installation requirements be met on their product.
Also check the IPC 2021 code book section 918.8 Air admittance valves / prohibited installation. Air admittance valves shall not be used to vent sumps or tanks without engineers design.
What if the unit is discharged to the exterior of the house and does not connect to a plumbing system?
@@PPG1967I'm not sure, but I believe this is related to the code changes implemented to require pre-fitting for radon mitigation during new build construction.
In my area air gap is required and flat vent is ok 6 in above the flood rim.
Let me guess, the UPC???
How do you know the air hammer arrestor is not in tha wall far for washing machine and the kitchen
They are normally installed at the washing machine box at the shut-off valve....they're visible.
If in a cold climate water testing supply plastic piping cold cause freeze ups. How could that be done in a cold climate?
We allow air to be used.
Can you replace a cast iron house trap with a pvc house trap in michigan?
Consult with a competent plumber in your state.
according to the UPC Exception: For PEX piping systems, testing with a compressed gas shall be an alternative to hydrostatic testing where compressed air or other gas pressure testing is specifically authorized by the manufacturer’s instructions for the PEX pipe and fittings products installed at the time the system is being tested, and compressed air or other gas testing is not otherwise prohibited by applicable codes, laws or regulations outside of this code. UPC and IPC are fighting each other on this code.
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Thank you so much for posting. To help me more I would turn the background music way down or delete it as I found that the music blocked and interfered with your voice.
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Air will leak before water would leak. Air molecules are much smaller than water molecules. Do what code says for your area, but physics says if it hold air at pressure X it will not leak with water
Well, it's easier to determine where a leak is coming from with water.
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(Not a plumber) but a slow air leak is harder to detect than a seep. Gauges just aren't that accurate. (IMO)
Can you do more plumbing inspection videos please?
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Can you tell me what page the expansion tank is on in the 2018 ipc
Section 607.3 2018 IPC
Section 308.10 2018 IPC
Lots of juicy violations. Great video. 3:45 this dishwasher drain also didn't have a loop on it. Is this all the same house? It would seem the plumber knows how to go through the motion but doesn't understand the reason for all of the codes. That is what frustrates me the most when dealing with young hot headed contractors, they might know they have to do something a certain way but don't understand why. These types are the first to cut corners and do it wrong if its too hard or they aren't making money on the job. They aren't "tradesmen", just handymen trying to make an easy buck.
So, those were two different houses.
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7:30 Are you sure the high loop isn’t correctly created on the dishwasher-side of the cabinet?
It's entering the kitchen cabinet very low. I'm pretty sure that the high loop is not on the dishwasher side.
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Hi I'm a plumber in Rockland county and I wanted to know how I can get a list or sheet of updated codes in my area
So, you should check with your local or city building department.
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I can't believe a professional plumber did this. This is plumbing 101
Yes sir, he sure did.
Just a reminder, these codes are either statewide or city wide. What is a violation here may well not be a violation someplace else. you have to know what the jurisdiction you are in requires, and sometimes that even goes by individual inspectors which is really a pain!
It's about what codes your state has adopted. This video may not apply to every area.
can a permit inspection fail if your system is not vented, but still drains just fine without any smells ?
So, a sanitary system must be vented to drain effectively. How is it draining correctly and its not vented??
To answer your question, yes I would fail it.
@@PPG1967 i was told by a plumber that it is not vented, and i will need it to pass inspection for a permit.. But it drains just fine with no smells at all.. is their a code that if it is within a certain distance such as 6 feet that it does not need individual venting.. it has been working just fine for many years now... i heard about CHEATER VENTS..
@@PPG1967 watch this video on vented vrs non vented. th-cam.com/video/4VkOsrHhjsI/w-d-xo.html
Not just vented, but all the vents tied together too.
How much Square feet for a room to have that intake , in the room and not lead outside ?
I'm sorry, I don't understand your question.
That would depend on not only the the manufacturer's instructions for the instant hot water heater, but also the code and any amendments applicable in your jurisdiction. Generally, allowing for indoor intake is considered an exception rather than a permitted practice and the rules pertaining to allowing that exception may not be available in every situation. This can be due to other building requirements, such as those pertaining to insulation and building envelope tightness, in effect for the jurisdiction. IE a tight house may not produce enough make-up air to also supply the instant water heater intake requirements regardless of the room volume, resulting in a negative indoor pressure and back drafting. There can be other environmental, legal, or precautionary considerations otherwise incorporated into any local code amendments.
If you plan to fight an inspector's red flag, you better be prepared with the relevant code including any amendments to back up your assertions. And be there with the inspector during the inspection as minor issues can potentially be resolved during the same inspection, saving time, money and an additional trip for the inspector (a win-win in my book).
@ 6:15 what is going on with the waste pipe at laundry box?
So, that drainage pipe to the left is used to drain condensate from an attic unit... it's pretty common down here in the Southeast.
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Right on. Have not yet seen that here in Charleston SC. Not sure if I personally like it or not. I do plumbing and HVA/C. I’m big fan of main condensate and secondary drain going outside. Main drain low to the ground, with line from secondary pan terminating hi outside. So homeowner will know when they have a problem. So in this set up where will secondary drain line terminate? Also please tell me that there is an air gap in that laundry box. Thanks
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I have a 1960 home and it has no water hammer arresters anywhere. I’ve never had any issues….. no thermal expansion tank either… no issues wharsoever. That begs the question what’s the point?
Didn't era, didn't construction materials, didn't appliances sir.
There are no code enforcements where I’m building, but I do my best to apply common sense building techniques that meet code. I sure wish you would give reasoning for “why” the code on each one of these failures exists. Horizontal vent lines between fixtures a minimum of 2’ above the drain field would make sense because it still vents, especially when the vertical vent pipe extends high enough to draft properly. In Alaska, our issue is the vent lines freezing-up when extending too high above the roof. Another issue is air intakes going outside in -40f is retarded from an efficiency standpoint. Like one person commented, as long as there are enough Cubic feet in a room that meets the BTU’ requirements of the unit, you’ should be good. If not, explain “why”. Common sense needs to be applied to some of this “code”, and if the code was good enough of an idea to be forced, it should be good enough of an idea to be explained as to “why” it exists with caveats for hot and cold areas of the country…. ESPECIALLY by the inspector that’s enforcing it.
So, you're saying the state of Alaska has not adopted any Building Codes??
@@PPG1967I also live in Alaska and the actual towns and cities do have codes but anything outside of city limits has no code. When we moved up here it only took me about two minutes looking at houses to say no and walk out. I built all of our cabins because everything else scared me. I have been a plumber for over thirty years and have a good handle on the trades.
I wish our UPC would adopt the high loop.
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When i use my washing machine, the water drained and then it came up to the toilet bowl. Why? The water literally filled up the toilet bowl side. How come?
You probably should check with a competent plumbing contractor in your area.
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I’m glad your not around my area. Most of those were wrong/b.s.
All code related issues. You don't use code books in your area?
WOW WOW WOW!!! tankless hot water heater = the contractor actually painted the pvc sch 40 on the outside!! ya inlets/outlets are done wrong but watching 100 plus videos and it is so rare! to protect pvc sch 40 pipe that is not UV rated.
So, what code book are you referencing ??
did manufactures change this recently for sch40 PVC pipe, including thin wall pipe?
--electrical conduit is normally rated for UV (exposed to sun) but that is electrical conduit, not plumbing, for tankless water heaters that can and do use pvc pipe for inlet and outlet exhaust, PVC generally is not rated for UV or less special manufacture product for inlet/outlet that goes on outside of house (but not always rated for UV)
--DWV (drain waste vent) is normally not rated for UV. sch80 PVC might be UV rated but doubtfull.
--it should be in older codes 2015 maybe ealier?
--DWV pipe only time it is normally installed is if it is burried or install in a wall, or floor, or ceiling were UV (sun light) does not come in direct contact with pipe. the rare times it does come in contact with sun is....
----sepetic tank field might have 2 to 4 pipe vents coming just to ground that might need some UV protection just above ground.(most folks will get a UV rated cap for like draining gutters into yard pop caps for septic tank vents *i do not remember specific name they are called*)
----the main DWV vent (residental) top of roof normally, but many times a proper roof flashing / vent is installed to keep water going back into home, and sch40 or thin wall pipe is not exposed to the UV (sun).
----then tankless water heaters is big trouble. not sure of latest manufacture install requirements, but they want inlet air and exhaust air to be out and away from home. THAT were issues come in. i do not know exact code but if it is a couple inches i think code begin requires the pvc to be protected. the couple inches just enough so when pvc pipe becomes yellish? brownish? vs new installed white and becomes brittle, the pvc pipe still **hopefully** a good solid connection to side of home so the brittleness is less of an issue. if it is longer than those couple inches from side of home then it requires protection. code states exact length / dimensions.
--off top of head i don't remember spay can paint type (pickup pretty much any store that sales spray can paint) there is a heat rating though may need to check larger hardware store for higher heat for the exhaust vent for tankless hot water heater. (there is a heat rating going out the exhaust that needs to pay attention to, and you might end up in automotive spray can paint isle) some folks might scuff up outside of pipe some with sand paper to give a little extra catch for paint to hold onto.
--other folks might use foam insulation (buy in a roll like tape), most hardware stores should have. that tape foam easier work with around fittings and pipe.
---the higher effencity furnaces that can use sch40 pvc pipe also has same issue of possibly needing to protect the pipe outside of home.
--side note. CPVC (not pvc) generally is UV rated, it is used more times for pressure relief and heat relief pipe, and is rated for higher temps for portable water in home. and is more likely to be installed on (any given hot water heater) were there might be a window that lets sun in directly on the pipe. last thing you want is high heat water going bursting due to pipe becoming brittle due to UV rays of sun. but CPVC is water and made smaller diameter.
Is installing a French drain in the basement requires a plumbing permit?
Check with your city or county building department.
Water heater expansion tank and the fact the hot side straight pex....I thought u had to come off the tank with at lest 18 inches of copper before u can transition to other material ?
So, I live in Georgia. We use the IPC (International Plumbing Code). What you are referring to is in the UPC (Uniform Plumbing Code). I don't know or use the UPC.
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@@PPG1967 thxz
Not sure if it's part of the national plumbing code, but we can't go directly onto the water heater with PEX. Needs to have a minimum of 18" of non combustible material.
So, I've addressed this probably 5 or 6 times. My videos reference the International Code Books..IPC, IRC, IMC, IFGC..etc
That code that you're referring to is out of the Uniform or National Plumbing Code. I live in Georgia, we've adopted the IPC (International Plumbing Code)
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I thought pex doesn't need insulation it doesn't expand does it?
Water will freeze, regardless of what kind of material.
It would be nice to cut to a propper picture of it done right and tools used
Sorry, you probably need to tune in to another channel for that. I appreciate you watching.
Thanks. Suggestion: Drop the music or turn it down. Also, no need for the intro footage of random houses. Your commentary stands on its own. Again, thanks for posting.
I appreciate you watching.
Can you use pex A inside of property inside of chicago?
I don't understand your question.
@@PPG1967 sorry for the confusion, I was wondering if pex is code in chicago and it isn’t.
Ok, I going to suggest checking with your local building department.
Thanks for watching!!!
Is just for California codes?
International Code Books
He missed a couple. On the first heater they have pex tied directly to the heater. They also use pex for the pop off on both heaters. Even if they let you use pex, the first heater is crimp pex so the fittings reduce the size. You can’t have any pipe size reduction on a pop off.
There’s several things he flagged that we’d be allowed to do. First is the vents, I know they need to be sloped but every inspector I’ve run into is usually fine with them being flat. The main thing is that there’s no belly’s that can hold water and cutoff the vent. Second is air test on pex. We air test everything unless we can do a live water test either one is fine.
So, what plumbing code book are you referencing sir???
That video is based on the 2018 International Plumbing Code (IPC).
I use both codes but I am more familiar with UPC. However the things I mentioned, I thought were in both codes. I stand corrected. They may be old codes that some plumbers/inspectors still follow. The only one I’ll still stand by is tank with crimp pex. It looked like 3/4. If so, it would be illegal because it has a smaller ID than the t&p valve does due to the fittings not being full port.
As for the second paragraph, I didn’t mean to argue that that was codes but just what our local inspectors tend to allow whether or it’s legal per code.
@@joshcowart2446 I thought they have to have at least 18” of hard pipe off the heaters too
No worries...thanks for watching!!
On that heater, pex cannot connect within 18" of the tank. Gotta put some copper risers.
I appreciate your commenting, however this video is based on the IRC or IPC...not UPC
As a plumber with over 40yrs of hands on
Experience and a fair hand at most of the other trades, my experience with most inspectors is the first thing they will look at the cleanliness and quality of your work, and a clean job site doesn't hurt either.
Ok, I appreciate your comment.
This is why you install a decoy plumbing that's up to code but not actually used by anything, and hide the actual plumbing behind drywall and secret doors.
If it can't be checked for violation, it's not a violation
You're a genius..
why no sanitary tees on the drains?
This coming out of the UPC??
My videos reference the IRC and the IPC.
From the looks of it, they probably hired a service plumber. New construction plumbing is a different animal.
Yes, it is...thanks for watching!!