No shade, but I think most other Thunderbolt docks re-used the board designs from Intel's original Thunderbolt 4 dock, which has that weird host port inexplicably on the front.
@@CalDigitHQ Thank you for explaining this! Was wondering why. Having a dock is such a good opportunity to cleanup all the cables on the desk. However, all those docks have a piggy tail in the front, lol, so awkward!
For a while now, I've been looking for a Thunderbolt dock, and this is the first one that ticked all my boxes. It clearly seems like the goal was to make the best dock possible, without skimping on anything. Ordered one today.
Welcome to the club! If there's ever anything we can help with at all, don't hesitate to reach out. I'm active on most social media platforms, and our support team is always happy to help too. Our support team's email is Support@CalDigit.com
I have two CalDigit TS3+ docks and I love them. They've worked great for years as docks for both Apple and PC laptops. You guys have upped your game even more with this TS4 - it looks awesome!
Really solid overview and explanation Jerry. Appreciate that you included answers to all the 'what if' questions as well. Saved me a lot of time too. This is my dock.
That's fair. We found that 2.5 GbE is a good compromise between increasing speed and keeping down costs. The fact is that most consumers aren't even going to be taking advantage of 2.5 GbE, let alone 10 gig.
@@CalDigitHQ I am among the few that would pay for such a TS4 Pro version with 10 GbE (I edit video directly on my NAS) but I understand that there is likely a broader audience for the 2.5 + the heat dispersion and cost. But I currently have the OWC version + a thunderbolt/10 GbE adapter and will buy the first offering that has the connections like the TS4 + 10 GbE in a heartbeat 🤞🏻
@@flashforum939 We hear you. A lot of 10GbE heads have come out to express similar sentiments, and I use 10GbE at home for the same reason as you. It's definitely a possibility, and something that I personally advocate for at our company. I'm sure we'll get 10GbE in our docks eventually (and CF Express too). Thank you again for your feedback, it helps improve our products!
@@CalDigitHQ ^ I also edit off a server. 10gb would make me get rid of an adapter. And I plug in my blackmagic device for monitoring which would plug into the thunderbolt port. Effectively meaning I only have one cable. So add one more person to the list advocating for 10gb. I’d pay an extra $50-$100 for it.
It would be nice. However with 2 available thunderbolt ports you have the option to connect a tb audio interface. Depending which one it could be both a dac and amp or just act as a dac and then you plug the amp to it.
I can totally see the need for a good DAC for professional use. However, with so many chips and components for handling so many ports and power, it’s hard to keep the sounds clean and keep the price reasonable. I would opt for a separate device personally.
Did anyone else contact caldigit and ask if they were making a 96w ts dock? I did 2 years ago when I got my 16” MacBook Pro. I’ve been holding out on getting a dock using a thunderbolt 2 dock with an adapter in hopes they would. They’ve finally done it!! It’s better than I hoped! Glad I waited. Maybe I’ll win one that would be incredible!
This is a mighty dock. Might have considered this over the element if it was out when I got the element. Anyway, I have a 2.5GBe adapter plugged into the element along with 2 4k 60 displays and a Universal Audio Apollo, mouse and keyboard and it all runs fine.
Sounds like you're using the Element Hub the perfect way, adding all the stuff you need, with none of the fluff. When you're ready for more, the TS4 and Element Hub can always be used together at the same time.
Hello, i have a intel macbookpro 18 sonoma and i sidecar my ipad pro 2021 m1 to it and i use it for recordings. I want to try this with obs and streaming and i am wondering if the ts4 is the best option for me or the ts3. I want also the ethernet to be as good as possible like you are describing here and also i need the jack 3.5 for my ipad so i can get full potential of my wired headset. Will it work? The ts4 connected to my ipadpro and then sidecar to my macbook pro?
The TS4 supports sidecar! I believe the TS3 Plus does as well, but I am not 100% sure. I tried testing it and was running into a separate error with the entirety of sidecar. The TS4 will have 2.5GbE, while the TS3 Plus has 1GbE. If you can take advantage of the faster ethernet speed, the TS4 would be the better fit. Otherwise, both are a great choice and should meet your needs.
@@CalDigitHQ I think TS4 is exactly what i need if i am able to sidecar with it. Also with much better Ethernet and close to price it would probably be the best choice for me, i guess I’ll have to give it a try and see, thank you for responding!
Aw man, a few days after I bought version 3 this drops 😥 I couldn't find any good options with faster than gigabit ethernet so ended up biting the bullet and getting the 3 so can't really justify buying the new version even if the faster network would be awesome
Very good Caldigit! I’m not sure if I will upgrade but I really like your love to the detail and perfection. If I need a new one then definitely one from you.
Looks like an awesome piece of kit! Do you have any documentation with the specific chipsets used listed? I’d love to know which ethernet chipset is in use (and possibly the audio and usb ones too!)
This hurts 😭. I just bought my third Thunderbolt 4 dock. I would have waited if I knew. Pretty sure this beats the competition on total power and ports.
The Dock looks great. But the charger is just *sigh* and the footprint is almost larger than the dock itself. Really wish they had used GaN technology to make the charger much more compact.
Our engineering team is aware of and has experimented with alternative power technologies, but they aren't ready to make the change yet. Definitely could happen in the future!
We're still not producing units as quickly as we'd like, but we're not taking pre-orders and I believe we're not doing back-orders right now either. In any case, we're expecting this to be a hot commodity, so get your hands on it while you can!
I am seeing it available right now and it has been in and out of stock the past week. Our UK team is staggering stock drops so there's more chances to get it. Keep your eyes peeled and check in throughout the day. shop.caldigit.com/uk/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=214
By the way, how dual 6k 60Hz displays can be supported? *Single* 6k 60Hz display has 6000 * 3300 = 20 MP(mega pixels), which should consume 20M * 30(bits per pixel) * 60(Hz) = 36gbps. This is nearly the same as 40gbps, which thunderbolt 4 connections offer.
Good question! It works via compression technologies built into the monitor that the computer also has to support. Basically, if a monitor supports High-Bit Rate 2 (HBR2) and Display Stream Compression (DSC), it's eligible for up to 6k60hz support. The most notable example is the Apple Pro Display XDR. Right now, I think the only computer that supports all of this is the M1 Pro or Max MacBook Pro, but others will likely be coming to market.
What I want in a TB dock is an m.2 socket, a 2.5” sata bay, and expanded connectivity. BUT! As I’ve experienced with my Qwiizlab dock, I want a dock that won’t literally destroy my drives and make them read-only, and I want it to be able to send full power to any/all ports at any given time.
Goodluck! We might dabble more in external storage hookups, but from your experience, do you blame us for being a little hesitant? As far as changing power profiles on ports, I'm not sure that's currently possible with Thunderbolt. I believe Thunderbolt provisions for all the power it could possibly need up front, and it is always ready to provide that power as necessary.
I have 10 non powered external drives (for photo storage) and wish to know whether I can safely piggyback 1 or 2 hubs to the dock (when editing photo's) without impairing performance of the main dock.
Very nice! Placed an order to replace my TS3+. I am wondering why we don't see USB 3.2 Gen 2x2 (20Gb/s) though? I have a SanDisk Extreme Pro capable of it, but haven't been able to find a way to realize that speed on any portable Mac.
USB 3.2 Gen 2x2 just didn't get enough market traction before USB 4 came out and made it obsolete. It's in that weird place where USB 4 isn't inherently backwards compatible with it, but with how few devices there are on the specification, it doesn't make sense to go out of our way to officially support it.
One Word, 9 letters... BRILLIANT ! How clever, output to the Reciever/Amplifier (or crummy speakertjes), and the Host port at the backside, so i kan hide all the cablework under the Bureau, but if i put a headphone into the front output, i don't have to cut of the output to the receiver, so the misses can soundly sleep without scaring her when i forget the soundsystem after i engage my Sennheiser ANC. No more "why did you not react on my bedroomfloor banging", why o why don't all other manufactorers thinks this kind of KISS solutions to the pragmatic end? Okay, it's a pitty we lost the Optical output, and well i would be way more happy if it was a 10Ggbe to the Qnap, but i would be very happy if i would now invest a little to much, and trade the TS4 for a TS4+ later (with the 10/20 gbe / QSFP+ port via the *second host port* and SPDIF output at the back) which would end all my Autistic Magic Thinking into REALITY :-) When oh when will it be available in Europe for an acceptable pricepoint? It's Merket based so i understand your pricepoint, but well "Its amazing, John" a 2 in 1 Acer Spin for 330€ is very weird to my computable HI-programming :-)
@@CalDigitHQ Awesome! Just wondering if this configuration been tested? I tried with another TB4 dock and although both displays worked, the 5k would not be recognized at full 5k resolution - it would display as a 4k monitor. Just confirming that both are recognized at native panel resolution. Thanks! I was waiting for your reply and now my delivery time from Amazon increased by 2 weeks.. 🙁
@@tonyrodriguezyt Sorry! The TS4 is selling like hot cakes! Amazon's estimate sounds right, we're expecting it to be back in stock in the next couple weeks over there. Okay, so my math might not be 100% accurate. The uncompressed limit of what the TS4 can support is dual 4k60hz. I was thinking back to our TS3 Plus, which also supported up to a 5k monitor, but in that configuration it was just the single 5k monitor. So the real answer is maybe and it depends. Here's a bit more of a break down for you so you can figure out for yourself. In ideal conditions, the TS4 can support up to dual 6k 60hz monitors. For this to work, the host computer and any monitor above 4k60hz need to support both Display Stream Compression (DSC) and High Bitrate 2 (HBR2). The easiest example to point to is the M1 Max Macbook Pro 16" and dual Apple Pro Display XDR monitors, but other setups should be compatible.
As a fan of the TS series this is great news! And finally a cleaner and smarter port layout. But why not having two DisplayPort ports directly on the dock, so that you don’t have to use one of those precious TB4 ports for DP?
We appreciate your continued business with us! The biggest factor is that we wanted to offer as much flexibility for as wide a range of users as possible. For users with USB-C monitors, there's no way to convert down to DisplayPort, so those users would be stuck with ports they couldn't possibly ever use. Plus, there's not a whole lot of space for a second DisplayPort.
@@CalDigitHQ There has to be a compromise somewhere. But 2 x DP on a pro dock at this prince point would be preferred. What happens to transfer speeds if a Thunderbolt 4 Element Hub is connected to expand the TS4's TB4 capabilities? Will the speeds still be at full TB4 (doesn't seem likely)?
@@CGW11 No matter what, the entire Thunderbolt connection maxes out at 40Gbps of bandwidth. In terms of individual device data numbers, dual 4k60hz monitors would take up about 20Gbps of bandwidth, or about half of the available data, at all times. In a power user situation like this, it could be very easy to hit the bandwidth cap with just the remaining TB port. But this is mostly speculative and most users aren't pushing that much data through our products at any given time, and almost never for more than short bursts. You can absolutely connect the Element Hub to the TS4 for the purposes you propose, but no matter what, you'll be dealing with that 40Gbps data bandwidth ceiling.
@@CalDigitHQ Thanks for your reply. A bandwidth budget of 40Gbps for each TB4 port on the dock will be plenty for normal usage. When using TS4 with 4 Element hub, users can place less bandwidth demanding devices on that shared lane.
Very nice. How's the optical out on this one? It is my favourite feature on TS3+. I have optical sensing amp (Marantz) which is hooked to the dock. Ma laptop wakes the dock, the dock wakes the amp.
Sorry dumb question but MBP with external monitor and external SSD, can I connect both the SSD and the monitor into this dock and then just a single tb4 cable to MacBook? And plug other peripherals and iPad Pro also into this doc for use/charging simultaneously? And if I plugged Ethernet cable into dock the MacBook will act like it’s hardwired still with the single cable from dock to MacBook?
There's no dumb questions! Yeah, you've pretty much got it! The goal with our docks is to provide a one cable solution to get your laptop connected to power, monitors, external storage, Ethernet, and any peripherals you may use. One caveat that might need mentioning is that the TS4 supports a single host computer at a time, so while you could charge the iPad Pro while you are using the Macbook Pro, you wouldn't be able to copy files between the two devices or control the iPad from a keyboard or mouse if it was plugged into the TS4.
So happy to see a Thunderbolt dock with so many 10Gb USB ports, multi-gig ethernet, and 98w charging! What happens if this dock is used on an older version of Mac OS? I want to remain on Mojave for work software I use. If it works OK with Mojave this could replace my OWC Thunderbolt 3 Pro dock. I'd give up its 10Gb Ethernet to lose the limited 5Gb USB ports, 60w charging, and fan noise.
I also used OWC Thunderbolt 3 Pro dock in the past but I didn't like the fan noise and wanted to have 10 Gbps ports too but still wanted to have 10Gbe ethernet as well. Finally I got the setup made of CallDigit Thunderbolt 4 Element Hub + QNAP QNA-T310G1S adapter connected to it. Keep in mind that despite the fact Element Hub is TB3-compatible, it doesn't work with TB3 optical cables (TB4 optical cable is required but such a product is not available on the market yet), but works with TB3 copper cables.
Hi, this seems a great product. I just wanted to ask, can I connect two 4K 60hz monitors with HDMI to USB-C cable to this dock? I have an MBP 16" 2019. Will this dock support MST? Or it can only do mirroring?
If a port stops working, you should definitely get in touch with our support team! Here are some ways to contact us: Email: Support@CalDigit.com Livechat: caldigit.com/support/
Love my TS3+. For me it's always been the gold standard for TB3 docking stations, and it works flawlessly with my Intel-based MBP. Two weeks ago I found out out the hard way it doesn't connect at all to the Surface Book 3 I got for work though (I'm an idiot and didn't look this up beforehand). This looks like the solution for me (and like you planned this whole thing out haha), but I still got one question: the spec sheet on your website says the TS4 connects to one 4k60Hz display via USB-C. Is there a hard limitation to one display via USB-C or could a dual display setup still when connecting 1 x UW1080p + 1 x 1080p displays?
DisplayLink is always an option with the use of a third party adapter, but we do not officially support it in any capacity due to the extra strain it may put on computers.
We'd love to include 10GbE, but man it gets hot! (and it's expensive!) Have you seen our Connect 10G for reference? All that does is convert Thunderbolt to 10GbE and it is a chunky boy to dissipate all the heat it generates.
The requirement is one Thunderbolt port, to connect to the host device. The maximum allowed is four ports. We opted to include 3 instead of the 4 allowed ports because of the included DisplayPort. Most users will be connecting at least one external monitor, which can be connected to the TS4 either via Thunderbolt or the included DisplayPort. Having the dedicated video option instead of another Thunderbolt port allows greater flexibility for users and may eliminate the need for some users to get additional video adapters.
@@johnmcclung4736 It doesn't really have an effect. Bandwidth is more data related, while power is, well power. On all Thunderbolt 4 docks, USB connections funnel down into a single 10Gbps USB hub. It is possible to saturate that connection.
This dock could be the perfect solution to my problem. However, I have a question with connecting this dock to a windows PC. I switch between a MacBook Pro and a desktop PC very often. So I am planning to use a dock to keep the peripherals, audio, and video inputs in one place to switch between the two systems. I am wondering if the dock will work if the host port is connected to a USB 3.2 gen 2 type C port on a PC. I don’t expect to use the dock for video output on the PC side, but will the dock still function as a USB hub? If yes, is there any speed limitation when using the dock over a USB C port?
Yes! The TS4 works with a USB 3.2 gen 2 type-C host. The dock will operate in a USB mode instead of Thunderbolt, meaning that the Thunderbolt ports on the TS4 would operate as USB 3.2 gen 2 ports, so any Thunderbolt peripherals would be incompatible. I believe one monitor would still be supported in this configuration, but otherwise everything else should still work well.
I have two identical monitors that support both HDMI and display port. What is the correct way to hook this dock up so that it would allow the dual extended monitors?
You would want to connect one monitor with a direct DisplayPort connection. The second monitor would need some kind of USB-C adapter. Either a USB-C to HDMI adapter or USB-C to DisplayPort adapter would work. We generally find that USB-C to DisplayPort adapters work better in general, so that is what I would recommend, but either will do.
Sleep/Wake issues are addressed. Some Ethernet behaviors are corrected, but we are looking into releasing an additional update specifically addressing some other Ethernet behaviors we've seen.
This is awesome. Sadly I have no use for something like this anymore. I originally bought the ts3+ for my gigabyte aero. Was disappointed after doing my own research and finding out gigabyte didn't implement dual display via the thunderbolt. Kinda the whole reason why I bout the dock. Since then that laptop died and I built a ryzen pc. Sadly my x570 mb doesn't support thunderbolt so I gotta sell the ts3+ now. The ts4 would work with my type c but honestly don't need it atm.
We get it. I have a desktop solution at home as well, so no real need for a Thunderbolt dock. I've been thinking of installing a Thunderbolt 4 PCIe card in the future to have more flexibility, though! ;)
Of course. Both of your suggestions would work great. You only need the active adapter when you want to convert the DisplayPort to another standard, like HDMI or DVI.
We favor DisplayPort because it has natural integration with Thunderbolt, meaning there's a more stable and consistent connection with less parts. Win-win!
I have the TS3+. Is the support for USB-C software or hardware based? My new work laptop (Surface Laptop) doesn't have thunderbolt so I've had to get a different dock. It'd be amazing if I could switch back to my TS3+.
I'm getting a computer that has (3) thunderbolt 4 ports and I have a need for epic connectivity. Is it okay to have TWO TS4's and plug each one into a different TB4 port? I don't know if the added power from the adaptor would be unsafe for the computer. Thank you!
Yes, it's totally safe to plug in multiple power sources to a computer. Modern computers are smart enough to only accept power from one source at a time. Here's a little more detail: In all modern power devices, there's a kind of "handshake" that goes on between charger and the receiving host. They tell each other how much power the host needs, how much the charger can provide, etc. Then they come to an agreement all before any power is sent to the computer. When multiple charging devices are connected, power is only accepted from one at a time, and all other power sources are rejected. Simple as that.
Hi, love you videos. I just purchased the TS4 (Should have it later this week). Is it possible to connect 1 macbook pro M1 Max and a PC (Windows 11) simultanously to the same screen (TV LG Oled C1 48 in) via HDMI 2.1 connectors on TV: Thank you
For the people that have it, have y’all had any issues getting dual 4K displays to work at 60hz? I can only get the display Port monitor to work at 60hz. The other monitor connected through usb c only works at 30hz. I’ve tried single monitor through usb c and it still only gets me 30hz. I’ve tried tb3, tb4 and usb c cables. When I connect it through the element hub it works fine through the tb port. I don’t know what it could be. It worked fine on my ts3+ and the computer I’m using is 2017 mb pro.
Sorry to hear that! It's possible this is a problem with macOS itself. In the Displays section, hold down the "option" key on your keyboard and press "Scaled". This should unlock some additional monitor options and you may be able to up the resolution. Alternatively, we have seen some compatibility hitches with direct USB-C connections. If your monitor has other connection types, like DisplayPort or HDMI, we recommend trying to connect to one of those with an adapter if possible. Beyond this, our support team would be more than happy to help however they can. Here's some contact methods: Email: Support@CalDigit.com Livechat: caldigit.com/support/ Best regards, Dalton from CalDigit
@@CalDigitHQ Hey Dalton, I have tried to see if it gives me additional options on the scaled options for the monitor but it does not give me an option for 60hz. I don’t think I need to buy an additional adapter since everything worked perfectly fine with the two ts3+’s with everything exactly the same. I bought two ts4’s and two element hubs and don’t want to spend additional money to make something work that should work normally with out any adapters
@@enriqueaguilar-andraca3259 I see. We're specifically seeing this direct USB-C behavior happening on the TS4, so it still sounds like it may be related. In any case, our support team would have some more insight for you. Definitely reach out to them!
Does this docking station works with TB3-compatible host if connected using TB3 optical cable? I have this problem with TB4 element hub which is TB3-compatible but doesn't work with TB3 optical cable. Your support, after investigation, told me that I have to wait until TB4 optical cables are available on the market. Is it the same case here?
wheni fired up ipad m4 pro as host. the Caldigit TS4 shows up as Ethernet (en4) in the M4 iPadOS Settings. What!!! I have no idea what to do with that.
Awesome. Does this mean you’ve fixed the DisplayPort issue on the TS3 Plus? I hope so because for those of us who have the issue, it makes the dock nearly useless.
@@CalDigitHQ the issue where the MacBook doesn’t wake when connected to the dock. There are tons of examples of folks having this problem. A quick google will find them. I’ve created a support case and been basically told “it’s apple’s problem. You’ll have to live with it”
@@bobbyball8903 This is a behavior that we are working with Apple to resolve. The source of the behavior seems to be with macOS' graphics drivers, as we're able to replicate the behavior across other company's Thunderbolt products. We recommend that you keep your macOS up to date, as that is the most likely vector for a fix.
@@CalDigitHQ so that tells me if I buy this new dock I’ll have exactly the same issue? If it’s graphics drivers is it limited to a specific built in or discrete graphics card? Or maybe architecture (e.g x86 vs. M1)?
Great product, But can it export dual monitor with high resolution & refresh rate? For example a 4k 160hz monitor and 2k 170hz monitor, can it handle these two monitor?
Conventionally, the TS4 can individually support up to 240hz at 1440p (or 2k) and at 4k it can support up to 144hz. This is roughly cut in half when both monitors are being used at the same time, with 1440p being supported up to 144hz and 4k being supported up to 60hz. Depending on your particular monitor and computer setup, the TS4 can reach much higher resolution/ refresh rate, up to dual 6k60hz monitors. Please provide your monitor and computer configuration and I'll be happy to take a closer look.
Hi@@CalDigitHQ , Thanks for reply, my current set up is laptop Asus Zephyrus M16 with i9 11900H and RTX 3070, this laptop have 1 thunderbolt 4 and my monitor is TUF Gaming VG27AQL1A with 2k 170HZ (OC), I want to bought 1 more monitor which is another VG27AQL1A, Can this TS4 can handle 2 monitors and still have 170HZ refresh rate?
@@jacky1996vip Thanks for the additional info. We haven't tested with this particular monitor, but you'll likely be able to reach up to 144hz with two of these monitors. I've heard of some cases where users were able to get dual 160hz, but that is pushing the limit already. 170hz could be possible, but again, we haven't tested a setup similar enough to say definitively. If you do end up trying it out, let us know so we can add it to our knowledge base!
None of our products natively support 3 external monitors. This isn't possible with Thunderbolt's built-in hardware. The only way to get around this limitation is with a tech called DisplayLink. Any dock advertising support for 3 monitors or more uses this, and you can add DisplayLink to our products or anything else with a DisplayLink USB adapter!
@@CalDigitHQ interesting ok - yes i have been struggling to find a dock to support three 4k monitors, i have your caldigit tb4, do i call tech support to get someone to assist with what i need to get that to do the 3 monitors with the displaylink adapter? thanks
@@costanza9872 I'm not sure about that dock. Looks like there's 4 monitor ports, so maybe they are using DisplayLink. YOu'll have to ask Dell about that.
is it gonna be fine if I use the tb3 2m cable from my cal digit ts3 plus on the ts4 dock? only reason is my tb3 cable is 2m long so I can have more options when placing the dock. Thanks!
Yes, 2m Thunderbolt 3 cables should work fine on Thunderbolt 4 docks. The only thing is that the dock won't be able to charge the computer, as long Thunderbolt 3 cables aren't capable of carrying power.
I have a MacBook Pro M1 Max.. Using a TS3+ now..thinking of getting daisy-chaining a CalDigit Element..OR sell the TS3+ and get this TS4..any pros/cons of going either direction? Thoughts here? Thanks!
Both are good options, and it really depends on your individual needs. The TS4 has a 2.5 gigabit ethernet port, more 10Gbps USB ports, and higher charging. If any of those are must-haves in an upgrade, the TS4 is the way to go. Both the Element Hub and TS4 adds at least one extra Thunderbolt port, and supports higher resolution monitors. If that's more in line with your needs, getting just the Element Hub will likely be the more cost-effective solution. If you go this route, make sure your Thunderbolt connection looks like this: Computer > TS3 Plus > Element Hub. The first device in a Thunderbolt chain is what provides power to the computer, so it's best for the TS3 Plus to come first here.
The only device we have with 10Gbps is our Connect 10G, which is a Thunderbolt 10 Gbps adapter. You can daisy-chain that with the downstream Thunderbolt port on our docks to get 10GbE.
What does "up to 98W" mean? My wife has a 2020 M1 MacBook Air that ideally would receive 30-35W. My concern is, 98W will damage the charging port or battery. Thoughts?
The "up to" means that the TS4 can change how much power it supplies based on the computer's needs. Modern computers are smart enough to limit incoming power sources when needed. Here is what will happen: Your computer will tell the TS4 how much power it needs, the 30-35W. The TS4 will agree to supply that amount of power and will shift how much it provides as the computer's needs change. Basically, don't worry about it! The computer and the dock know what they're doing and can work together perfectly fine.
We're working with Apple to get this resolved as fast as possible. In the mean time, we have a couple workarounds to try to alleviate the sleep/wake behavior. www.caldigit.com/thunderbolt-dock-sleep-mode-related-issues-under-macos-12/
What would happen if you connect the Macbook Pro to Studio Display main Thunderbolt port and connect the caldigit TS4 USB C thunderbolt 96W port to secondary Studio Display port ? Can that create any issues ? or does the caldigit not provide power if not needed?
Am I understanding correctly that you want the connection chain to be: MBP - Studio Display - TS4? You can do that, but the TS4 will be working in USB-C mode when your computer can handle Thunderbolt. Power will also not be passed along. I'd suggest you connect MBP - TS4 - Studio Display. If your computer is Apple Silicon with Pro, Max, or Ultra chip, you can plug in both Studio Displays into the TS4.
Good question! Thunderbolt and USB-C both have built-in options to provision for DisplayPort, which results in a more simple and reliable display solution than building more complexity to offer HDMI.
Is it possible to attach 2x 4K monitor at the back of TS4 (DP and one USB-C->HDMI) and additionally alsp use the hdmi output on the macbook for a 3rd monitor? ( Macbook Pro M2 Max) ?
Yes! This is definitely possible - you can even connect a 4th monitor over Thunderbolt (not connected to the TS4, but a different port works). Here's the tech specs for your computer for reference: support.apple.com/en-us/111838
It really depends on the load. Our dev team is able to drain an M1 MacBook Pro 16" with its 140W power supply plugged in under synthetic loads. Granted, it takes several hours for it to drain to empty, and it's similar, albeit a bit faster to drain to empty with the TS4. In virtually all use-cases, the TS4 will provide adequate charging for the 140W MacBook Pro. If you are keeping the computer pegged at 100% CPU usage overnight, I can't guarantee the TS4 will work well for that, but almost anything short of that will be compatible with the TS4.
Is it possible to use a MacBook Pro 14“ with m1 pro processor with a dual monitor setup when each monitor has a resolution of 1440p an a refresh rate of 165hz?
We're just offering the one color at this time. It's possible for multiple colors to come in the future, but as we discontinued Silver on the TS3 Plus, I would not count on it.
We're aware of a development between the TS4, some Mac computers, and the latest macOS 12.3. After affected devices wake from sleep, some ports on the TS4 stop functioning, with the only immediate remedy being to fully reboot the computer. Below are current fixes and findings. So far, our testing indicates that only M1 Max 14" and 16" computers are affected by this behavior. If your experiences suggest otherwise, please let our support team know, contact info at the bottom. The more documented cases we have of this behavior, the quicker we can find a solution. Right now there are two main workarounds until a proper fix is deployed. 1 - Disable sleep mode on your computer while the TS4 is connected. Make sure to change the setting "Turn display off after" to "never". support.apple.com/.../set-sleep-and-wake.../mac 2 - Roll back macOS to 12.0.1, which predates this behavior. support.apple.com/.../macos.../12.0/mac/12.0... We thank you for your understanding regarding this development. We are continuing to debug this behavior and will share relevant information as its uncovered. As for the whining sound, that is likely caused by the power supply. It's possible that replacing the power supply may fix this behavior. Our support team can help with this request. You can reach out to our support team right here: Email: Support@CalDigit.com Livechat: caldigit.com/support/
@@CalDigitHQ Thank you for the detailed response. I posted primarily because I was thinking of buying but posts I saw about the sleep issue said your support was unresponsive. To be fair, this is an old story for those who have owned Macs and it usually requires an Apple fix to resolve. But that is not something consumers should be pursuing with Apple, its up to your company. All Macs sleep. Have you tested with most or all Macs, or are you simply saying that the only reports are for the devices you mention? I have an iMac Pro.
@@iamintractable1805 We were having some problems with our email provider earlier this month, where messages to and from a variety of domains were bouncing, including gmail. It got to the point where our support team had several dozen emails waiting to send out, but couldn't. Over the weekend, we migrated to a new email host and have caught up on the majority of emails our support team received. Unfortunately some user cases got lost as a result of this incident, so between our inability to respond to some emails and some others getting lost, this is where claims of our unresponsiveness come from. Historically we have seen a variety of sleep/wake issues rooted in how macOS handles the wake-up process. Across Catalina, there was a graphics bug that caused any external monitor (attached to our docks, a competitors, or directly) to potentially throw a Kernel Panic and restart the computer, for example. This was corrected in a macOS update. The specific behavior we listed above is reproduceable on 12.3 with M1 Max computer specifically. I've seen one similar report on an M1 Pro device, and nothing so far on Intel devices. We're still assessing how widespread this behavior is, so it's hard to say at this point how related that case is to the M1 Max cases on hand. In our lab, we have tested this on a variety of Intel Macs, as well as our M1 Pro and Max Macs to come to this conclusion. As we debug this behavior, we are sharing our findings with Apple.
@@BoxerEnginePH 12.3 seems to have fixed Kernel Panics related to sleep, but overall stability has gotten worse with 12.3's full release. This is disappointing as some of 12.3's beta releases improved behavior significantly. At this time, we're recommending affected users roll back to 12.0.1 or disable sleep on their macOS computer until the next macOS update comes out.
@@MotorsportsX We offered pre-orders and back-order purchases with our previous dock, the Element Hub, and it was a bit of a disaster with how much demand there was versus how much we could produce.
The vast majority of the TS4's one star reviews on Amazon come from a macOS bug where the TS4 would disconnect during a sleep/wake cycle, including USB devices disconnecting. This behavior was addressed in a firmware update we released earlier this year and it is now shipping on virtually all newly purchased TS4s.
Actually, the network adapter strangely disappears if I simply reboot Linux. I have to power off and on the laptop to make the adapter to appear again.
Not via hardware. Thunderbolt 4 allows for a max of 2 monitors. If a third monitor is absolutely necessary, you could use a DisplayLink adapter to achieve support, but DisplayLink uses software to push their monitors, which can have adverse effects, so we do not officially support it.
Hi caldigit! I have dual monitors, can i connect both of them to the thunderbolt connectors (at the back of ts4) ? Monitor1 - thunderbolt4 connector Monitor 2- thinderbolt 4 connector (instead of display port)
@@hcesconeto That wouldn't be possible on the TS4 without another Thunderbolt dock. The Element Hub has 3 usable Thunderbolt ports, so it would work out readily with that dock!
I have 2 HDMI monitors(4k ultra wide) can I connect them using one HDMI to DisplayPort cable and HDMI to usb C with my MacBook Pro with M1 Pro? Is there a problem with that?
It will depend more on your monitors. If your monitors and computer support DSC and HBR2 or 3, they should work. The conversions you propose will work, but if connecting DP to HDMI on our dock, you must use an Active DisplayPort to HDMI adapter or cable. Otherwise, everything you suggested should work.
Finally a TB4 dock figured out how to put host connection in the back of the device rather than front.
No shade, but I think most other Thunderbolt docks re-used the board designs from Intel's original Thunderbolt 4 dock, which has that weird host port inexplicably on the front.
@@CalDigitHQ Thank you for explaining this! Was wondering why. Having a dock is such a good opportunity to cleanup all the cables on the desk. However, all those docks have a piggy tail in the front, lol, so awkward!
For a while now, I've been looking for a Thunderbolt dock, and this is the first one that ticked all my boxes. It clearly seems like the goal was to make the best dock possible, without skimping on anything. Ordered one today.
Welcome to the club! If there's ever anything we can help with at all, don't hesitate to reach out. I'm active on most social media platforms, and our support team is always happy to help too. Our support team's email is Support@CalDigit.com
@@CalDigitHQ
Do we need to register our device's Serial Number before contacting CalDigit?
I have two CalDigit TS3+ docks and I love them. They've worked great for years as docks for both Apple and PC laptops. You guys have upped your game even more with this TS4 - it looks awesome!
Thanks for the lovely comment! We appreciate your business, and hope the TS4 is the sequel you didn't know you needed!
@@CalDigitHQ I also have 2 of TS3+. one at church and one at home... they worked very great, I hope that I get the TS4 soon
@@aot1357 Glad to hear it! Hope you get to upgrade soon as well!
Really solid overview and explanation Jerry. Appreciate that you included answers to all the 'what if' questions as well. Saved me a lot of time too. This is my dock.
Glad to hear the video was helpful! If there's anything else we can ever help with, please don't hesitate to reach out!
Jerry Jerry Jerry!! Great choice on Ambassador CalDigit
We think so too! Great guy!
Best dock on the market. Incredible
Great to finally see the product. Love everything about it except the 2.5 GbE - had hoped so so much for 10 GbE.
That's fair. We found that 2.5 GbE is a good compromise between increasing speed and keeping down costs. The fact is that most consumers aren't even going to be taking advantage of 2.5 GbE, let alone 10 gig.
@@CalDigitHQ I am among the few that would pay for such a TS4 Pro version with 10 GbE (I edit video directly on my NAS) but I understand that there is likely a broader audience for the 2.5 + the heat dispersion and cost.
But I currently have the OWC version + a thunderbolt/10 GbE adapter and will buy the first offering that has the connections like the TS4 + 10 GbE in a heartbeat 🤞🏻
@@flashforum939 We hear you. A lot of 10GbE heads have come out to express similar sentiments, and I use 10GbE at home for the same reason as you.
It's definitely a possibility, and something that I personally advocate for at our company. I'm sure we'll get 10GbE in our docks eventually (and CF Express too).
Thank you again for your feedback, it helps improve our products!
@@CalDigitHQ ^ I also edit off a server. 10gb would make me get rid of an adapter. And I plug in my blackmagic device for monitoring which would plug into the thunderbolt port. Effectively meaning I only have one cable. So add one more person to the list advocating for 10gb. I’d pay an extra $50-$100 for it.
@@CoveringFish Thanks for your feedback!
I have a TS3+ and I can't wait to put my order in for this new hotness.
Combine them to make the super dock!
One of the things I like the most with this unit is the amount of power for charging MacBooks and USB device!
Looks great. I wish this dock offers an audiophile-grade DAC and amp like a THX AAA to make this the choice for content creators.
Honestly, me too! I've been trying to convince the dev team there's an untapped market for enthusiast/ professional content creators.
It would be nice. However with 2 available thunderbolt ports you have the option to connect a tb audio interface. Depending which one it could be both a dac and amp or just act as a dac and then you plug the amp to it.
I think the same way.
I can totally see the need for a good DAC for professional use. However, with so many chips and components for handling so many ports and power, it’s hard to keep the sounds clean and keep the price reasonable. I would opt for a separate device personally.
I connect my Apollo to my caldigit all the time. So when I plug in my laptop it auto connects to the interface
Did anyone else contact caldigit and ask if they were making a 96w ts dock? I did 2 years ago when I got my 16” MacBook Pro. I’ve been holding out on getting a dock using a thunderbolt 2 dock with an adapter in hopes they would. They’ve finally done it!! It’s better than I hoped! Glad I waited. Maybe I’ll win one that would be incredible!
Oh yeah, I'm sure you aren't the only one. We've pretty much hit the peak wattage we can supply with current technology now. Cheers!
This is what I need for M1 mini.
This is a mighty dock. Might have considered this over the element if it was out when I got the element. Anyway, I have a 2.5GBe adapter plugged into the element along with 2 4k 60 displays and a Universal Audio Apollo, mouse and keyboard and it all runs fine.
Sounds like you're using the Element Hub the perfect way, adding all the stuff you need, with none of the fluff. When you're ready for more, the TS4 and Element Hub can always be used together at the same time.
@@CalDigitHQ the 10gbe adapter is on my radar
@@atkinsonkieron Why not both? ;)
@@CalDigitHQ Ooops I did I t.
Looks great. Now I know why the TS3+ hasn't been available!
Yep, we've been focusing on getting this out the door, but believe it or not, the TS3 Plus is coming back!
Great video and excited about the product! I love my TS2; so reliable. As soon as I can buy a new MB Pro I'm getting this TS4...
Hello, i have a intel macbookpro 18 sonoma and i sidecar my ipad pro 2021 m1 to it and i use it for recordings.
I want to try this with obs and streaming and i am wondering if the ts4 is the best option for me or the ts3. I want also the ethernet to be as good as possible like you are describing here and also i need the jack 3.5 for my ipad so i can get full potential of my wired headset.
Will it work?
The ts4 connected to my ipadpro and then sidecar to my macbook pro?
The TS4 supports sidecar! I believe the TS3 Plus does as well, but I am not 100% sure. I tried testing it and was running into a separate error with the entirety of sidecar.
The TS4 will have 2.5GbE, while the TS3 Plus has 1GbE. If you can take advantage of the faster ethernet speed, the TS4 would be the better fit. Otherwise, both are a great choice and should meet your needs.
@@CalDigitHQ I think TS4 is exactly what i need if i am able to sidecar with it. Also with much better Ethernet and close to price it would probably be the best choice for me, i guess I’ll have to give it a try and see, thank you for responding!
@@CodmFlux No problem! If there's anything else we can ever help with, please don't hesitate to ask!
I like the 2006 Mac mini in the back.
Aw man, a few days after I bought version 3 this drops 😥 I couldn't find any good options with faster than gigabit ethernet so ended up biting the bullet and getting the 3 so can't really justify buying the new version even if the faster network would be awesome
Maybe it's not too late to return the older one?
I know what you mean, Jarrod'sTech. I am saving my money to buy a TS4 when they come out next month.
Very good Caldigit! I’m not sure if I will upgrade but I really like your love to the detail and perfection. If I need a new one then definitely one from you.
Thank you! The upgrade is here if you ever deice you want it!
Looks looks perfect! I'd love to get my hands on this!
We just sold out in the US, but UK and EU stock is still available!
@@CalDigitHQ my bank balance this month is saying no, but it’s definitely in my wish list 👀
@@ChrisWilmshurst Yeah, I feel that one! It will be here when you're ready!
@@CalDigitHQ i’m ready now…
@@iComplainer The next restock is imminent!
www.caldigit.com/an-update-on-ts4-availability/
Thanks for the video.
Thanks. Well thought through and very helpful.
Good review and very nice bit of kit.
I knew it was coming! It's a "buy" for me! 😍
Nice! Can't wait for you to get your hands on it!
@@CalDigitHQ I just came back from Amazon. It's already sold out 🤯
@@francoisberkinjr5088 The TS4 has been selling off the shelf. It should be back on Amazon within the next couple weeks. Keep an eye out!
@@CalDigitHQ Thank you very much! I'll keep an eye open. Price please?
@@francoisberkinjr5088 Unsure what amazon price is, but our web shop's list price is $359.95.
Wow. This looks like the one.
Wouldn’t mind reviewing it on my channel ;)
Very informative video. Well done, thank you!!
Looks like an awesome piece of kit! Do you have any documentation with the specific chipsets used listed? I’d love to know which ethernet chipset is in use (and possibly the audio and usb ones too!)
We're working on getting additional documentation together, but I do know that the Ethernet is PCIe based and uses an Intel I225
This hurts 😭. I just bought my third Thunderbolt 4 dock. I would have waited if I knew. Pretty sure this beats the competition on total power and ports.
Okay, but hear us out. Thunderbolt can daisy chain up to 6 devices together, so 4 dock mega desk?
@@CalDigitHQ lol. I already have your Element hub attached to one 😂. I’m sure I’ll pick it up when available. CalDigit makes rock solid docks.
The Dock looks great. But the charger is just *sigh* and the footprint is almost larger than the dock itself.
Really wish they had used GaN technology to make the charger much more compact.
Our engineering team is aware of and has experimented with alternative power technologies, but they aren't ready to make the change yet. Definitely could happen in the future!
Yeah that's a tough monster to cable manage
Very nice. My order is in!
Luckily I haven't bought a Thunderbolt 4 dock yet, and I'm thinking if I should buy this from US or Taiwan then ship to Philippines
If you can wait a month, the TS4 will be coming to our Asia storefront then:
www.caldigit.com/an-update-on-ts4-availability/
Very cool! I want this dock!
I. Want. One!! And Just ordered it!! Boom
We're still not producing units as quickly as we'd like, but we're not taking pre-orders and I believe we're not doing back-orders right now either. In any case, we're expecting this to be a hot commodity, so get your hands on it while you can!
@@CalDigitHQ thanks for the quick response. Just ordered from your online store for eu!!
Hello Caldigit, please update the TS4 availability status; you're saying "in stock" for the UK, but it's been OoS for a while now...
I am seeing it available right now and it has been in and out of stock the past week. Our UK team is staggering stock drops so there's more chances to get it. Keep your eyes peeled and check in throughout the day.
shop.caldigit.com/uk/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=214
By the way, how dual 6k 60Hz displays can be supported?
*Single* 6k 60Hz display has 6000 * 3300 = 20 MP(mega pixels), which should consume 20M * 30(bits per pixel) * 60(Hz) = 36gbps.
This is nearly the same as 40gbps, which thunderbolt 4 connections offer.
Good question! It works via compression technologies built into the monitor that the computer also has to support. Basically, if a monitor supports High-Bit Rate 2 (HBR2) and Display Stream Compression (DSC), it's eligible for up to 6k60hz support. The most notable example is the Apple Pro Display XDR.
Right now, I think the only computer that supports all of this is the M1 Pro or Max MacBook Pro, but others will likely be coming to market.
Looks really nice to me! Will this be available in Japan?
Should be available next month through a couple different avenues.
www.caldigit.com/an-update-on-ts4-availability/
Thunderbolt 5 is coming in this year? we are looking for 6 -8TB ports instate of 4tb4 ports in future.
I have not heard any information at all about future Thunderbolt releases.
What I want in a TB dock is an m.2 socket, a 2.5” sata bay, and expanded connectivity. BUT! As I’ve experienced with my Qwiizlab dock, I want a dock that won’t literally destroy my drives and make them read-only, and I want it to be able to send full power to any/all ports at any given time.
Goodluck! We might dabble more in external storage hookups, but from your experience, do you blame us for being a little hesitant?
As far as changing power profiles on ports, I'm not sure that's currently possible with Thunderbolt. I believe Thunderbolt provisions for all the power it could possibly need up front, and it is always ready to provide that power as necessary.
I have 10 non powered external drives (for photo storage) and wish to know whether I can safely piggyback 1 or 2 hubs to the dock (when editing photo's) without impairing performance of the main dock.
Very nice! Placed an order to replace my TS3+. I am wondering why we don't see USB 3.2 Gen 2x2 (20Gb/s) though? I have a SanDisk Extreme Pro capable of it, but haven't been able to find a way to realize that speed on any portable Mac.
USB 3.2 Gen 2x2 just didn't get enough market traction before USB 4 came out and made it obsolete. It's in that weird place where USB 4 isn't inherently backwards compatible with it, but with how few devices there are on the specification, it doesn't make sense to go out of our way to officially support it.
I've read some concerning reviews on this and why isn't there a power switch
One Word, 9 letters...
BRILLIANT !
How clever, output to the Reciever/Amplifier (or crummy speakertjes), and the Host port at the backside, so i kan hide all the cablework under the Bureau, but if i put a headphone into the front output, i don't have to cut of the output to the receiver, so the misses can soundly sleep without scaring her when i forget the soundsystem after i engage my Sennheiser ANC.
No more "why did you not react on my bedroomfloor banging", why o why don't all other manufactorers thinks this kind of KISS solutions to the pragmatic end?
Okay, it's a pitty we lost the Optical output, and well i would be way more happy if it was a 10Ggbe to the Qnap, but i would be very happy if i would now invest a little to much, and trade the TS4 for a TS4+ later (with the 10/20 gbe / QSFP+ port via the *second host port* and SPDIF output at the back) which would end all my Autistic Magic Thinking into REALITY :-)
When oh when will it be available in Europe for an acceptable pricepoint?
It's Merket based so i understand your pricepoint, but well "Its amazing, John" a 2 in 1 Acer Spin for 330€ is very weird to my computable HI-programming :-)
Thanks for your kind words! It's available in Europe soon: www.caldigit.com/an-update-on-ts4-availability/
Hi - looks great! Do you know if it will support an 5k LG Ultrafine and 4k (true 4k) LG Ultrafine connected to the hub simultaneously?
Yes, both of those would be supported at the same time.
@@CalDigitHQ Awesome! Just wondering if this configuration been tested? I tried with another TB4 dock and although both displays worked, the 5k would not be recognized at full 5k resolution - it would display as a 4k monitor. Just confirming that both are recognized at native panel resolution. Thanks! I was waiting for your reply and now my delivery time from Amazon increased by 2 weeks.. 🙁
@@tonyrodriguezyt Sorry! The TS4 is selling like hot cakes! Amazon's estimate sounds right, we're expecting it to be back in stock in the next couple weeks over there.
Okay, so my math might not be 100% accurate. The uncompressed limit of what the TS4 can support is dual 4k60hz. I was thinking back to our TS3 Plus, which also supported up to a 5k monitor, but in that configuration it was just the single 5k monitor.
So the real answer is maybe and it depends.
Here's a bit more of a break down for you so you can figure out for yourself. In ideal conditions, the TS4 can support up to dual 6k 60hz monitors. For this to work, the host computer and any monitor above 4k60hz need to support both Display Stream Compression (DSC) and High Bitrate 2 (HBR2). The easiest example to point to is the M1 Max Macbook Pro 16" and dual Apple Pro Display XDR monitors, but other setups should be compatible.
As a fan of the TS series this is great news! And finally a cleaner and smarter port layout.
But why not having two DisplayPort ports directly on the dock, so that you don’t have to use one of those precious TB4 ports for DP?
We appreciate your continued business with us!
The biggest factor is that we wanted to offer as much flexibility for as wide a range of users as possible. For users with USB-C monitors, there's no way to convert down to DisplayPort, so those users would be stuck with ports they couldn't possibly ever use. Plus, there's not a whole lot of space for a second DisplayPort.
@@CalDigitHQ There has to be a compromise somewhere. But 2 x DP on a pro dock at this prince point would be preferred. What happens to transfer speeds if a Thunderbolt 4 Element Hub is connected to expand the TS4's TB4 capabilities? Will the speeds still be at full TB4 (doesn't seem likely)?
@@CGW11 No matter what, the entire Thunderbolt connection maxes out at 40Gbps of bandwidth.
In terms of individual device data numbers, dual 4k60hz monitors would take up about 20Gbps of bandwidth, or about half of the available data, at all times. In a power user situation like this, it could be very easy to hit the bandwidth cap with just the remaining TB port.
But this is mostly speculative and most users aren't pushing that much data through our products at any given time, and almost never for more than short bursts.
You can absolutely connect the Element Hub to the TS4 for the purposes you propose, but no matter what, you'll be dealing with that 40Gbps data bandwidth ceiling.
@@CalDigitHQ Thanks for your reply. A bandwidth budget of 40Gbps for each TB4 port on the dock will be plenty for normal usage. When using TS4 with 4 Element hub, users can place less bandwidth demanding devices on that shared lane.
@@CGW11 The TB4 bandwidth is across the entire dock, not on each port.
Please release a version with 10GbE, please!
Awesome!!! Question - Are the card readers spring loaded?
Yes! All of our docks are!
Send Linus tech tips this one for review
2,5Gbit is very welcome
Very nice. How's the optical out on this one? It is my favourite feature on TS3+. I have optical sensing amp (Marantz) which is hooked to the dock. Ma laptop wakes the dock, the dock wakes the amp.
No optical :(
We dropped it in favor of adding more flexibility with how to use the 3.5mm audio jacks.
Sorry dumb question but MBP with external monitor and external SSD, can I connect both the SSD and the monitor into this dock and then just a single tb4 cable to MacBook? And plug other peripherals and iPad Pro also into this doc for use/charging simultaneously? And if I plugged Ethernet cable into dock the MacBook will act like it’s hardwired still with the single cable from dock to MacBook?
There's no dumb questions!
Yeah, you've pretty much got it! The goal with our docks is to provide a one cable solution to get your laptop connected to power, monitors, external storage, Ethernet, and any peripherals you may use.
One caveat that might need mentioning is that the TS4 supports a single host computer at a time, so while you could charge the iPad Pro while you are using the Macbook Pro, you wouldn't be able to copy files between the two devices or control the iPad from a keyboard or mouse if it was plugged into the TS4.
@@CalDigitHQ well this is just awesome. thank you!
So happy to see a Thunderbolt dock with so many 10Gb USB ports, multi-gig ethernet, and 98w charging! What happens if this dock is used on an older version of Mac OS? I want to remain on Mojave for work software I use. If it works OK with Mojave this could replace my OWC Thunderbolt 3 Pro dock. I'd give up its 10Gb Ethernet to lose the limited 5Gb USB ports, 60w charging, and fan noise.
The Thunderbolt 4 drivers are a part of macOS Big Sur, so the TS4 would not be compatible with earlier versions of macOS, unfortunately.
I also used OWC Thunderbolt 3 Pro dock in the past but I didn't like the fan noise and wanted to have 10 Gbps ports too but still wanted to have 10Gbe ethernet as well. Finally I got the setup made of CallDigit Thunderbolt 4 Element Hub + QNAP QNA-T310G1S adapter connected to it. Keep in mind that despite the fact Element Hub is TB3-compatible, it doesn't work with TB3 optical cables (TB4 optical cable is required but such a product is not available on the market yet), but works with TB3 copper cables.
Hi, this seems a great product. I just wanted to ask, can I connect two 4K 60hz monitors with HDMI to USB-C cable to this dock? I have an MBP 16" 2019. Will this dock support MST? Or it can only do mirroring?
Yes, dual 4k 60hz monitors would be supported on the TS4.
The TS4 supports MST as long as the host computer also does. MST is not supported on macOS.
hope the headphone port won't die like on my TS3
If a port stops working, you should definitely get in touch with our support team!
Here are some ways to contact us:
Email: Support@CalDigit.com
Livechat: caldigit.com/support/
Love my TS3+. For me it's always been the gold standard for TB3 docking stations, and it works flawlessly with my Intel-based MBP. Two weeks ago I found out out the hard way it doesn't connect at all to the Surface Book 3 I got for work though (I'm an idiot and didn't look this up beforehand). This looks like the solution for me (and like you planned this whole thing out haha), but I still got one question: the spec sheet on your website says the TS4 connects to one 4k60Hz display via USB-C. Is there a hard limitation to one display via USB-C or could a dual display setup still when connecting 1 x UW1080p + 1 x 1080p displays?
The TS4 can only ever support a single monitor on a USB-C 10Gbps host.
@@CalDigitHQ Do you support 3840x2160 @ 60hz over USB-C?
@@danielwinkels4044 Yes, a single 4k monitor at 60hz is supported via USB-C on the TS4.
No DisplayLink for M1 Macs?
DisplayLink is always an option with the use of a third party adapter, but we do not officially support it in any capacity due to the extra strain it may put on computers.
I’m glad to *finally* see 2.5gbps ethernet on a thunderbolt dock, but I do wish 10gbps ethernet was included, since I am actively using it today, too!
We'd love to include 10GbE, but man it gets hot! (and it's expensive!) Have you seen our Connect 10G for reference? All that does is convert Thunderbolt to 10GbE and it is a chunky boy to dissipate all the heat it generates.
@@CalDigitHQ looking forward to more thermally efficient 10gbe chipsets!
I thought the Thunderbolt 4 standard requires accessories with at least four Thunderbolt ports? There's only 3 on the TS4.
The requirement is one Thunderbolt port, to connect to the host device. The maximum allowed is four ports.
We opted to include 3 instead of the 4 allowed ports because of the included DisplayPort. Most users will be connecting at least one external monitor, which can be connected to the TS4 either via Thunderbolt or the included DisplayPort. Having the dedicated video option instead of another Thunderbolt port allows greater flexibility for users and may eliminate the need for some users to get additional video adapters.
Will the USB ports supply power to webcams? I've hit a limit of 4 cams on my M1 MacBook Pro? Hoping the TS4 will allow more cams to be used.
They should. Most USB ports on the TS4 supply 7.5W power, the rest supply even more. All dedicated power reserved for each individual port.
Does that overcome clogged bandwidth when trying to use multiple webcams?@@CalDigitHQ
@@johnmcclung4736 It doesn't really have an effect. Bandwidth is more data related, while power is, well power. On all Thunderbolt 4 docks, USB connections funnel down into a single 10Gbps USB hub. It is possible to saturate that connection.
This dock could be the perfect solution to my problem. However, I have a question with connecting this dock to a windows PC. I switch between a MacBook Pro and a desktop PC very often. So I am planning to use a dock to keep the peripherals, audio, and video inputs in one place to switch between the two systems. I am wondering if the dock will work if the host port is connected to a USB 3.2 gen 2 type C port on a PC. I don’t expect to use the dock for video output on the PC side, but will the dock still function as a USB hub? If yes, is there any speed limitation when using the dock over a USB C port?
Yes! The TS4 works with a USB 3.2 gen 2 type-C host. The dock will operate in a USB mode instead of Thunderbolt, meaning that the Thunderbolt ports on the TS4 would operate as USB 3.2 gen 2 ports, so any Thunderbolt peripherals would be incompatible. I believe one monitor would still be supported in this configuration, but otherwise everything else should still work well.
I have two identical monitors that support both HDMI and display port. What is the correct way to hook this dock up so that it would allow the dual extended monitors?
You would want to connect one monitor with a direct DisplayPort connection.
The second monitor would need some kind of USB-C adapter. Either a USB-C to HDMI adapter or USB-C to DisplayPort adapter would work. We generally find that USB-C to DisplayPort adapters work better in general, so that is what I would recommend, but either will do.
is the TS4 sill having issues with sleep wake issues with M1 Mac in latest firmware? Still having issues with 2.5Gbit ethernet in current firmware?
Sleep/Wake issues are addressed. Some Ethernet behaviors are corrected, but we are looking into releasing an additional update specifically addressing some other Ethernet behaviors we've seen.
This is awesome. Sadly I have no use for something like this anymore. I originally bought the ts3+ for my gigabyte aero. Was disappointed after doing my own research and finding out gigabyte didn't implement dual display via the thunderbolt. Kinda the whole reason why I bout the dock. Since then that laptop died and I built a ryzen pc. Sadly my x570 mb doesn't support thunderbolt so I gotta sell the ts3+ now. The ts4 would work with my type c but honestly don't need it atm.
We get it. I have a desktop solution at home as well, so no real need for a Thunderbolt dock. I've been thinking of installing a Thunderbolt 4 PCIe card in the future to have more flexibility, though! ;)
Is there a configuration for dual displays that won't require the active adapter? Like using native DP and/or the open tb4 ports?
Of course. Both of your suggestions would work great. You only need the active adapter when you want to convert the DisplayPort to another standard, like HDMI or DVI.
Would trade that display port for an hdmi
We favor DisplayPort because it has natural integration with Thunderbolt, meaning there's a more stable and consistent connection with less parts. Win-win!
I have the TS3+. Is the support for USB-C software or hardware based? My new work laptop (Surface Laptop) doesn't have thunderbolt so I've had to get a different dock. It'd be amazing if I could switch back to my TS3+.
It's hardware based. Thunderbolt 4 provisions for USB-C support.
What about the temperature of the device? Does it make some kind of noise? Does it have a start button? Thank you for your time.
The TS4's operating temperature is up to 105 degrees Fahrenheit.
The dock should be totally silent when in use.
There's no start button.
I'm getting a computer that has (3) thunderbolt 4 ports and I have a need for epic connectivity. Is it okay to have TWO TS4's and plug each one into a different TB4 port? I don't know if the added power from the adaptor would be unsafe for the computer. Thank you!
Yes, it's totally safe to plug in multiple power sources to a computer. Modern computers are smart enough to only accept power from one source at a time.
Here's a little more detail: In all modern power devices, there's a kind of "handshake" that goes on between charger and the receiving host. They tell each other how much power the host needs, how much the charger can provide, etc. Then they come to an agreement all before any power is sent to the computer. When multiple charging devices are connected, power is only accepted from one at a time, and all other power sources are rejected. Simple as that.
Hi, love you videos. I just purchased the TS4 (Should have it later this week). Is it possible to connect 1 macbook pro M1 Max and a PC (Windows 11) simultanously to the same screen (TV LG Oled C1 48 in) via HDMI 2.1 connectors on TV: Thank you
No, you can't connect two computers to the TS4 at the same time.
The only way something like this would be possible is with a KVM.
@@CalDigitHQ thanks- you sir for your time and answer. received the TS4. Love it
For the people that have it, have y’all had any issues getting dual 4K displays to work at 60hz? I can only get the display Port monitor to work at 60hz. The other monitor connected through usb c only works at 30hz. I’ve tried single monitor through usb c and it still only gets me 30hz. I’ve tried tb3, tb4 and usb c cables. When I connect it through the element hub it works fine through the tb port. I don’t know what it could be. It worked fine on my ts3+ and the computer I’m using is 2017 mb pro.
Sorry to hear that!
It's possible this is a problem with macOS itself. In the Displays section, hold down the "option" key on your keyboard and press "Scaled". This should unlock some additional monitor options and you may be able to up the resolution.
Alternatively, we have seen some compatibility hitches with direct USB-C connections. If your monitor has other connection types, like DisplayPort or HDMI, we recommend trying to connect to one of those with an adapter if possible.
Beyond this, our support team would be more than happy to help however they can. Here's some contact methods:
Email: Support@CalDigit.com
Livechat: caldigit.com/support/
Best regards,
Dalton from CalDigit
@@CalDigitHQ Hey Dalton, I have tried to see if it gives me additional options on the scaled options for the monitor but it does not give me an option for 60hz. I don’t think I need to buy an additional adapter since everything worked perfectly fine with the two ts3+’s with everything exactly the same. I bought two ts4’s and two element hubs and don’t want to spend additional money to make something work that should work normally with out any adapters
@@enriqueaguilar-andraca3259 I see. We're specifically seeing this direct USB-C behavior happening on the TS4, so it still sounds like it may be related.
In any case, our support team would have some more insight for you. Definitely reach out to them!
Does this docking station works with TB3-compatible host if connected using TB3 optical cable? I have this problem with TB4 element hub which is TB3-compatible but doesn't work with TB3 optical cable. Your support, after investigation, told me that I have to wait until TB4 optical cables are available on the market. Is it the same case here?
Nothing has changed with our Thunderbolt implementation, so it's likely a TB3 optical cable still would not work here.
wheni fired up ipad m4 pro as host. the Caldigit TS4 shows up as Ethernet (en4) in the M4 iPadOS Settings. What!!! I have no idea what to do with that.
You can connect the iPad Pro to internet via Ethernet instead of Wi-Fi, or use it to connect to a NAS or other local storage device.
Awesome. Does this mean you’ve fixed the DisplayPort issue on the TS3 Plus? I hope so because for those of us who have the issue, it makes the dock nearly useless.
I'm unsure of what behavior you're talking about. Can you please elaborate?
@@CalDigitHQ the issue where the MacBook doesn’t wake when connected to the dock. There are tons of examples of folks having this problem. A quick google will find them.
I’ve created a support case and been basically told “it’s apple’s problem. You’ll have to live with it”
@@bobbyball8903 This is a behavior that we are working with Apple to resolve. The source of the behavior seems to be with macOS' graphics drivers, as we're able to replicate the behavior across other company's Thunderbolt products. We recommend that you keep your macOS up to date, as that is the most likely vector for a fix.
@@CalDigitHQ so that tells me if I buy this new dock I’ll have exactly the same issue?
If it’s graphics drivers is it limited to a specific built in or discrete graphics card? Or maybe architecture (e.g x86 vs. M1)?
Bump 🙂
Great product,
But can it export dual monitor with high resolution & refresh rate?
For example a 4k 160hz monitor and 2k 170hz monitor, can it handle these two monitor?
Conventionally, the TS4 can individually support up to 240hz at 1440p (or 2k) and at 4k it can support up to 144hz. This is roughly cut in half when both monitors are being used at the same time, with 1440p being supported up to 144hz and 4k being supported up to 60hz.
Depending on your particular monitor and computer setup, the TS4 can reach much higher resolution/ refresh rate, up to dual 6k60hz monitors. Please provide your monitor and computer configuration and I'll be happy to take a closer look.
Hi@@CalDigitHQ ,
Thanks for reply, my current set up is laptop Asus Zephyrus M16 with i9 11900H and RTX 3070, this laptop have 1 thunderbolt 4 and my monitor is TUF Gaming VG27AQL1A with 2k 170HZ (OC), I want to bought 1 more monitor which is another VG27AQL1A, Can this TS4 can handle 2 monitors and still have 170HZ refresh rate?
@@jacky1996vip Thanks for the additional info.
We haven't tested with this particular monitor, but you'll likely be able to reach up to 144hz with two of these monitors. I've heard of some cases where users were able to get dual 160hz, but that is pushing the limit already. 170hz could be possible, but again, we haven't tested a setup similar enough to say definitively.
If you do end up trying it out, let us know so we can add it to our knowledge base!
Nice video - know any caldigit docks that support three 4k external monitors? im using a new XPS 15 9530 (2023) with thunderbolt 4...thanks
None of our products natively support 3 external monitors. This isn't possible with Thunderbolt's built-in hardware.
The only way to get around this limitation is with a tech called DisplayLink. Any dock advertising support for 3 monitors or more uses this, and you can add DisplayLink to our products or anything else with a DisplayLink USB adapter!
@@CalDigitHQ interesting ok - yes i have been struggling to find a dock to support three 4k monitors, i have your caldigit tb4, do i call tech support to get someone to assist with what i need to get that to do the 3 monitors with the displaylink adapter? thanks
@@CalDigitHQ also so this wouldnt support three 4k monitors - Dell WD22TB4 Thunderbolt 4 Dock
@@costanza9872 I'm not sure about that dock. Looks like there's 4 monitor ports, so maybe they are using DisplayLink. YOu'll have to ask Dell about that.
is it gonna be fine if I use the tb3 2m cable from my cal digit ts3 plus on the ts4 dock? only reason is my tb3 cable is 2m long so I can have more options when placing the dock. Thanks!
Yes, 2m Thunderbolt 3 cables should work fine on Thunderbolt 4 docks. The only thing is that the dock won't be able to charge the computer, as long Thunderbolt 3 cables aren't capable of carrying power.
I have a MacBook Pro M1 Max.. Using a TS3+ now..thinking of getting daisy-chaining a CalDigit Element..OR sell the TS3+ and get this TS4..any pros/cons of going either direction? Thoughts here? Thanks!
Both are good options, and it really depends on your individual needs. The TS4 has a 2.5 gigabit ethernet port, more 10Gbps USB ports, and higher charging. If any of those are must-haves in an upgrade, the TS4 is the way to go.
Both the Element Hub and TS4 adds at least one extra Thunderbolt port, and supports higher resolution monitors. If that's more in line with your needs, getting just the Element Hub will likely be the more cost-effective solution. If you go this route, make sure your Thunderbolt connection looks like this: Computer > TS3 Plus > Element Hub. The first device in a Thunderbolt chain is what provides power to the computer, so it's best for the TS3 Plus to come first here.
@@CalDigitHQ Great info Jerry..thanks much!! I love your reviews, and comments here--always super helpful/useful! Take care, Gayle
@@GayleGrantDocGrant Thanks for the kind words, Gayle!
Hope you have a lovely day!
@CalDigit, do you have any similar products with 10Gbps ethernet or SFP+ ports?
The only device we have with 10Gbps is our Connect 10G, which is a Thunderbolt 10 Gbps adapter. You can daisy-chain that with the downstream Thunderbolt port on our docks to get 10GbE.
@@CalDigitHQ Thanks. Consider this a request to consider a product to compete with the OWC Thunderbolt 3 Dock Pro.
@@JGoodwin Thanks for your feedback!
Hey..what's everyone going to charge for their used CALDIGIT TS3+?? (if in excellent shape)??
What does "up to 98W" mean? My wife has a 2020 M1 MacBook Air that ideally would receive 30-35W. My concern is, 98W will damage the charging port or battery. Thoughts?
The "up to" means that the TS4 can change how much power it supplies based on the computer's needs. Modern computers are smart enough to limit incoming power sources when needed.
Here is what will happen: Your computer will tell the TS4 how much power it needs, the 30-35W. The TS4 will agree to supply that amount of power and will shift how much it provides as the computer's needs change.
Basically, don't worry about it! The computer and the dock know what they're doing and can work together perfectly fine.
@@CalDigitHQ Thank you !!!
Hope you fix the issues on Monterey 12.3 soon
We're working with Apple to get this resolved as fast as possible.
In the mean time, we have a couple workarounds to try to alleviate the sleep/wake behavior.
www.caldigit.com/thunderbolt-dock-sleep-mode-related-issues-under-macos-12/
What would happen if you connect the Macbook Pro to Studio Display main Thunderbolt port and connect the caldigit TS4 USB C thunderbolt 96W port to secondary Studio Display port ? Can that create any issues ? or does the caldigit not provide power if not needed?
Am I understanding correctly that you want the connection chain to be: MBP - Studio Display - TS4?
You can do that, but the TS4 will be working in USB-C mode when your computer can handle Thunderbolt. Power will also not be passed along.
I'd suggest you connect MBP - TS4 - Studio Display. If your computer is Apple Silicon with Pro, Max, or Ultra chip, you can plug in both Studio Displays into the TS4.
Finally!
No TS4 here, I did buy a SOHO dock but if you name I wouldn't mind having a TS4. *Wink, Wink*
I need a second DP display, which Thunderbolt to Displayport adapter have you tested and can suggest to me ?
We sell a USB-C to DisplayPort adapter that we recommend!
shop.caldigit.com/us/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=205
What is the reason there is a Display Port port on the TS4 instead of HDMI?
Good question!
Thunderbolt and USB-C both have built-in options to provision for DisplayPort, which results in a more simple and reliable display solution than building more complexity to offer HDMI.
Is it possible to attach 2x 4K monitor at the back of TS4 (DP and one USB-C->HDMI) and additionally alsp use the hdmi output on the macbook for a 3rd monitor? ( Macbook Pro M2 Max) ?
Yes! This is definitely possible - you can even connect a 4th monitor over Thunderbolt (not connected to the TS4, but a different port works).
Here's the tech specs for your computer for reference: support.apple.com/en-us/111838
@@CalDigitHQ Thank you for the fast and clear response!!! I'll order one soon.... 👍
When you pulled out the power supply 👀
Big boy for big power!
@@CalDigitHQ love it. Eyeballing this right now, but appears to be sold out 😅
@@PeterSyravong Restocks are coming ASAP. More details here:
www.caldigit.com/an-update-on-ts4-availability/
@@CalDigitHQ ah, literally reading that page when you replied. I prefer this to OWC.
Hello, Will, it support AVB via ethernet? For Avid and AVB audio converters.
No. Currently, the only one of our products that supports AVB is our Connect 10G.
MacBook Pro 16 has 140w power supply. Is this dock able to power that if the laptop is under heavy load?
It really depends on the load. Our dev team is able to drain an M1 MacBook Pro 16" with its 140W power supply plugged in under synthetic loads. Granted, it takes several hours for it to drain to empty, and it's similar, albeit a bit faster to drain to empty with the TS4.
In virtually all use-cases, the TS4 will provide adequate charging for the 140W MacBook Pro. If you are keeping the computer pegged at 100% CPU usage overnight, I can't guarantee the TS4 will work well for that, but almost anything short of that will be compatible with the TS4.
Is it possible to use a MacBook Pro 14“ with m1 pro processor with a dual monitor setup when each monitor has a resolution of 1440p an a refresh rate of 165hz?
In a dual monitor configuration, the max you can get with dual 1440p monitors is around 144hz to my understanding.
Are there going to be options for silver/space gray or is there only one color choice?
We're just offering the one color at this time. It's possible for multiple colors to come in the future, but as we discontinued Silver on the TS3 Plus, I would not count on it.
@@CalDigitHQ which color is the TS4 considered?
@@BrianMcDonald It's space grey, I believe.
Have you addressed the sleep mode issue and drive disconnects? What about reports of a whining sound?
We're aware of a development between the TS4, some Mac computers, and the latest macOS 12.3. After affected devices wake from sleep, some ports on the TS4 stop functioning, with the only immediate remedy being to fully reboot the computer. Below are current fixes and findings.
So far, our testing indicates that only M1 Max 14" and 16" computers are affected by this behavior. If your experiences suggest otherwise, please let our support team know, contact info at the bottom. The more documented cases we have of this behavior, the quicker we can find a solution.
Right now there are two main workarounds until a proper fix is deployed.
1 - Disable sleep mode on your computer while the TS4 is connected. Make sure to change the setting "Turn display off after" to "never".
support.apple.com/.../set-sleep-and-wake.../mac
2 - Roll back macOS to 12.0.1, which predates this behavior.
support.apple.com/.../macos.../12.0/mac/12.0...
We thank you for your understanding regarding this development. We are continuing to debug this behavior and will share relevant information as its uncovered.
As for the whining sound, that is likely caused by the power supply. It's possible that replacing the power supply may fix this behavior. Our support team can help with this request.
You can reach out to our support team right here:
Email: Support@CalDigit.com
Livechat: caldigit.com/support/
@@CalDigitHQ Thank you for the detailed response. I posted primarily because I was thinking of buying but posts I saw about the sleep issue said your support was unresponsive. To be fair, this is an old story for those who have owned Macs and it usually requires an Apple fix to resolve. But that is not something consumers should be pursuing with Apple, its up to your company. All Macs sleep. Have you tested with most or all Macs, or are you simply saying that the only reports are for the devices you mention? I have an iMac Pro.
@@iamintractable1805 We were having some problems with our email provider earlier this month, where messages to and from a variety of domains were bouncing, including gmail. It got to the point where our support team had several dozen emails waiting to send out, but couldn't. Over the weekend, we migrated to a new email host and have caught up on the majority of emails our support team received. Unfortunately some user cases got lost as a result of this incident, so between our inability to respond to some emails and some others getting lost, this is where claims of our unresponsiveness come from.
Historically we have seen a variety of sleep/wake issues rooted in how macOS handles the wake-up process. Across Catalina, there was a graphics bug that caused any external monitor (attached to our docks, a competitors, or directly) to potentially throw a Kernel Panic and restart the computer, for example. This was corrected in a macOS update. The specific behavior we listed above is reproduceable on 12.3 with M1 Max computer specifically. I've seen one similar report on an M1 Pro device, and nothing so far on Intel devices. We're still assessing how widespread this behavior is, so it's hard to say at this point how related that case is to the M1 Max cases on hand. In our lab, we have tested this on a variety of Intel Macs, as well as our M1 Pro and Max Macs to come to this conclusion. As we debug this behavior, we are sharing our findings with Apple.
@@CalDigitHQ did the Monterey 12.3 update fix this? Hope you can find time to answer me please :)
@@BoxerEnginePH 12.3 seems to have fixed Kernel Panics related to sleep, but overall stability has gotten worse with 12.3's full release. This is disappointing as some of 12.3's beta releases improved behavior significantly. At this time, we're recommending affected users roll back to 12.0.1 or disable sleep on their macOS computer until the next macOS update comes out.
If you're unable to get yourself a TS4, don't worry, we're restocking soon! More info here:
www.caldigit.com/an-update-on-ts4-availability/
I'm happy to pay now to get in line -- is this possible?
@@LateNightIM We're not offering pre-orders or back-orders at this time.
@@LateNightIM I believe B&H is though, I preordered mine the day it came out/sold out
@@CalDigitHQ you should! how else do you REALLY know what the demand is? PLus.. money talks. people will get their asses back to work.
@@MotorsportsX We offered pre-orders and back-order purchases with our previous dock, the Element Hub, and it was a bit of a disaster with how much demand there was versus how much we could produce.
I read reviews on Amazon. People complain that USB devices fall off the bus randomly. 14% of one-star reviews. Can you comment?
The vast majority of the TS4's one star reviews on Amazon come from a macOS bug where the TS4 would disconnect during a sleep/wake cycle, including USB devices disconnecting. This behavior was addressed in a firmware update we released earlier this year and it is now shipping on virtually all newly purchased TS4s.
@@CalDigitHQ Great. Good to hear. I hope this problem doesn't exist on Linux. If it does, I'll let you know. 😀
@@TheOnlyAndreySotnikov It shouldn't. From our testing it is exclusive to macOS.
@@CalDigitHQ I received the dock station. It works flawlessly. Great job, thanks!
Actually, the network adapter strangely disappears if I simply reboot Linux. I have to power off and on the laptop to make the adapter to appear again.
👍🏼
Is there a way to support 3 external monitors? Not looking for 4k, just 2K would be fine.
Not via hardware. Thunderbolt 4 allows for a max of 2 monitors.
If a third monitor is absolutely necessary, you could use a DisplayLink adapter to achieve support, but DisplayLink uses software to push their monitors, which can have adverse effects, so we do not officially support it.
Hi caldigit! I have dual monitors, can i connect both of them to the thunderbolt connectors (at the back of ts4) ?
Monitor1 - thunderbolt4 connector
Monitor 2- thinderbolt 4 connector (instead of display port)
Yes! The TS4 has two downstream Thunderbolt 4 ports, and both of them have monitor support at the same time.
Can i use two Studio displays + one 10GB Ethernet network adapter? i`ll work? What conections i need to use on the dock? @@CalDigitHQ
@@hcesconeto That wouldn't be possible on the TS4 without another Thunderbolt dock. The Element Hub has 3 usable Thunderbolt ports, so it would work out readily with that dock!
What HDMI standard will be reached with your brands active adapter?
HDMI 2.0 should be the standard it supports.
How much is this dock? Considering this or a monitor with a hub (Dell U2723QE) include for my M1 MacBook.
The TS4 is currently listed as $379.99 on our web shop.
I have 2 HDMI monitors(4k ultra wide) can I connect them using one HDMI to DisplayPort cable and HDMI to usb C with my MacBook Pro with M1 Pro? Is there a problem with that?
It will depend more on your monitors. If your monitors and computer support DSC and HBR2 or 3, they should work.
The conversions you propose will work, but if connecting DP to HDMI on our dock, you must use an Active DisplayPort to HDMI adapter or cable. Otherwise, everything you suggested should work.