@@dianemakwela1335 The whole thing came about in reverse. At first, Steffy got along well with Brooke. But when she only sponsored her Hopi-dopi and made sure that she got everything in the company even though she was not yet entitled to that as an "intern", she then had to watch the LOGANS kick the Forresters out of the company and treat them like Dirt, only then did Steffy's hatred of the Logans grow - understandably.
Why would Katie meet at Brookes house of all places? Ridges enemy in his house, and Steffy being there, which Katies is not fond of. And in the future episodes they made it seem like Hope was the one who found Bill to be Liams father when it was Bill who suspected then told Katie.
@@yao052 Liam has always stringed Hope and Steffy along for back up when he wasn't with one of them. I'm baffled why both female fan bases would want waffler like Liam to be with theirs when he's proven over and over he can never commit to just one for more than two or three years. One year at all if they are lucky. Compared to the original episodes and the last five to ten years of the show, the dialogue and show have gone downhill. We don't even get to see runways anymore. Its always competition with another Forrester designer now.
Yes and until now she has never had a man that he didn't with hope first. Except Bill tje married man... She is so not worth nothing as a woman and as a person
These last few episodes around this time just proves that hope is alot like her mother brooke. She uses her charm to get what she wants and in the end comes up with a reason to leave Oliver for Liam. Typical logan going from man to man when the opportunity arises, not to mention a big shot family like Spencer. I guarantee if there was no Liam, hope would have stayed with Oliver.
How can Hope be expected to forgive Oliver, his mistake is unforgivable! Imagine her mother being the 1st to sleep with her loving boyfriend😭😭, disgusting to even imagine🤮🤮
@@dianemakwela1335 Brooke is more to blame here; not Oliver. She is the the grown adult and she should have known better. Whether it's with her husband ridge or Oliver is beside the point. She was helping chaperon the party. To have sex out in the terrace like that with anyone with all those kids in the house is just plain wrong. You are right about one thing though; it is disgusting but brooke is the one that should have controlled herself.
I know it's an unpopular opinion, but is it possible Liam was a rebound for Hope from Oliver?! That's how it seems to start out. It eventually became something real but it looks like rebound city to me. JMO.
I feel like the writers keep pushing for Hope to look like a important and very nice person! But to be honest I don't think she deserves all this credit. She is just a very entitled girl that everything has been handed to her easily. She is a brat ! And the writers show that all boys fell in love with her the first time they see her!
I’m wondering if out of all Brooke’s sisters and daughters, are there any of them that she hasn’t betrayed by having sex with one of their significant others? I liked Bill with Katie.
Well actually Hope dated Oliver first and Steffy chased him just to hurt Hope then she moved on to Bill and after she almost drowns and Liam saves her she falls for Liam most of the time she seems to just stay available just to cause trouble but there are times I prefer Steffy because she's always there for Liam
Ridge told Brooke hoegan the truth when he said he missed her on his lap. That statement alone just futher prove it's lust not love what Ridge feels for Brooke because she has the morality of an alley cat.
Regardless of Ridge stepping in as a father (role model) for hope, but Brooke has always expected Ridge to choose Hope over Steffy, and that’s not alright
Ridge n Brooke are funny. Now Hope moved on with a new guy and Brooke is saying "oh I didn't ruin every thing!", yes Brooke, you ruined it for Hope n Oliver.
Oliver was a likeable character… such a shame they trashed the character in order to boost BrHooker with a disgusting story of her having sex up against a wall with a young man she thought was her husband… ridiculous storyline.
Accident no you wife slept with her daughter boyfriend why did ridge give brooke a free pass brooke disgusting a few tears and all forgiven but she still making these mistakes today
Ridge brought it for Brooke back in 1994. It has always been her house. Even in 2006 when Ridge was trying to get back together with Brooke, she reminded him it was her house and she decides who can and cannot come to her house. Hope has every right to tell Steffy to leave.
It was Hope’s home just as much as Steffy’s,Steffy had no business staying while they talked but as usual she just had to stick her nose into someone else’s business,Hope wasn’t trash she was a decent human being who helped people if she could stuffy was the trash Hope took out.
All of a sudden Hopeless can't get pass what happen she's just like her smother brookhoe now that she knows Liam is a $pencer, now she's going to lie to Oliver, when all this time she's been playing both of them ,the Hogan clan don't know how to be honest ,they all go to the highest bidder .
You know hope is a damn hypocrite. Looking back on these old videos; Oliver made one bad mistake that actually was an accident but Hope still ended things and yet here she is from the present and future keeps giving Liam so many chances after he lied, cheated and stole. Damn writers!!! 😂😂😂
Interesting choice to have Steffy there to witness Bill and Liam coming together and not Hope, Hmm,
You can see that Steffy took this as a challenge against Hope.
The beginning of the Spencer family bonding.
Hope has this arrogance from her mother. How dare she tell Steffy that she has no business there. It is her father's house as well.
Steffy is the arrogant one. Hope had every right to kick Steffy out. Steffy uses peoples personal issues against them.
@@OklahomaGirl
Exactly!! This was a private moment between Liam and Bill steffy had no business there at the time. I cant stand her at all.
Indeed, Steffie is the arrogant one. She's been pursuing the Logans forever
@@dianemakwela1335 The whole thing came about in reverse. At first, Steffy got along well with Brooke. But when she only sponsored her Hopi-dopi and made sure that she got everything in the company even though she was not yet entitled to that as an "intern", she then had to watch the LOGANS kick the Forresters out of the company and treat them like Dirt, only then did Steffy's hatred of the Logans grow - understandably.
@@cias_food If it was such a private moment between Bill and Liam, what business did Hopi have in it?
Why would Katie meet at Brookes house of all places? Ridges enemy in his house, and Steffy being there, which Katies is not fond of. And in the future episodes they made it seem like Hope was the one who found Bill to be Liams father when it was Bill who suspected then told Katie.
I mean she was the one who was there through it while he was trying to figure it out.
Hope helped Liam figure out that Bill was his father
Exactly! Bulll figured it out when Liam dropped the pic of his mom in his office. Then they confirmed via blood test.
@@charneclayton9462 really?
That's Why I Said Of All Places Why ⁉️ They Just Evite Themselves Into Somebody's Else's House 🏡👀👉⁉️ Where They Do That At ⁉️‼️ Just Ruled ❤❤❤❤
These were such pre-mature "I love you"s. They haven't even known each other long and she literally just came out of a rocky relationship.
Didn't she tell Oliver she loved him 5 minutes ago??
I always liked Hope and Oliver. I forgot how good the show used to be before pre Liam.
critic watcher What a preposterous thing to say. One character can never ruin an entire show.
@@yao052 Liam has always stringed Hope and Steffy along for back up when he wasn't with one of them. I'm baffled why both female fan bases would want waffler like Liam to be with theirs when he's proven over and over he can never commit to just one for more than two or three years. One year at all if they are lucky.
Compared to the original episodes and the last five to ten years of the show, the dialogue and show have gone downhill. We don't even get to see runways anymore. Its always competition with another Forrester designer now.
@@criticwatcher you are so right, i really miss the runways. I loved seeing the fashions
sandra l huh
@@criticwatcher then stop watching then
What happened to Brooke stepping back from the company for awhile? Making out with Ridge on the rooftop is far from taking a step back!
Jackson Holland Just because she took a step back from the company doesn't mean she can't see her husband
Jackson Holland -- Hello 👋 Brooke was not making out on the roof with Ridge November 28,2021
I see sparks between Liam and Steffy
I hate stuffy she Goes after every guys hope goes after
Where did. You see sparks???
Yes and until now she has never had a man that he didn't with hope first. Except Bill tje married man... She is so not worth nothing as a woman and as a person
Maybe on Steffy’s side but definitely not for Liam. He is head over heels for Hope.
@@stazel79 Steffy minions see wat they want to see
Pretty Sweet that Bill remembered the night he conceived Liam
My word hope is just like brooke from 1 man to the other
you rescued me and Liam was grateful to Hope which got mistaken for love Real passion hit him when he got mixed up with Steffy
Liam was and always will be in love with Hope. He got with steffy because of his sexually needs.
@@cias_food yep and today Liam said he wants steffy baby to be finn's.
@@israeliqueen153 And Cries when He find's Out is it Finns !!!
He Lies everytime to Hope !!!
Just a few episodes ago Hope was saying I love u to Oliver lol
Brooke said she didn't ruin everything, but she did ruin everything for Oliver. He really loves Hope
I thought hope and Oliver got back together. Now look.
Sweet chemistry and real love bridge
Ridge just cares about Brooke' s happiness and nothing else, Geez, I want to be loved like that
These last few episodes around this time just proves that hope is alot like her mother brooke. She uses her charm to get what she wants and in the end comes up with a reason to leave Oliver for Liam. Typical logan going from man to man when the opportunity arises, not to mention a big shot family like Spencer. I guarantee if there was no Liam, hope would have stayed with Oliver.
How can Hope be expected to forgive Oliver, his mistake is unforgivable! Imagine her mother being the 1st to sleep with her loving boyfriend😭😭, disgusting to even imagine🤮🤮
@@dianemakwela1335 Brooke is more to blame here; not Oliver. She is the the grown adult and she should have known better. Whether it's with her husband ridge or Oliver is beside the point. She was helping chaperon the party. To have sex out in the terrace like that with anyone with all those kids in the house is just plain wrong. You are right about one thing though; it is disgusting but brooke is the one that should have controlled herself.
Zack Q u speak the truth!! Hope is like her trashy Mom!!!
@@zackq8865 I agree with u again!!!
I like Katie in these scenes with Liam and Bill
I know it's an unpopular opinion, but is it possible Liam was a rebound for Hope from Oliver?! That's how it seems to start out. It eventually became something real but it looks like rebound city to me. JMO.
Yes He is + He has Money
maybe initially
ohhh gosh!!! 🤦♀️these people know nothing about love!!!
Iambigsister u are right, they DO KNOW NOTHING about love!!! They are airheads & have their heads in the clouds!!!
Steffy was way to nice she should have said b---c this is my father's home
Exactly
How dare hope and Katie kick Steffy out of her father's house.
Shows what an immature brat she truly is.
The beginning of the end
Hopes house? More like ridge so steffy is welcomed there whether she likes it or not
Lady D...exactly...the way Katie and Hope look down their nose at Steffi as if they are saints.
The Logan’s are a disease worse than COVID. Way worse. All of them.
@@gabriellalingo3067 you said it best.
I feel like the writers keep pushing for Hope to look like a important and very nice person! But to be honest I don't think she deserves all this credit. She is just a very entitled girl that everything has been handed to her easily. She is a brat ! And the writers show that all boys fell in love with her the first time they see her!
Yes thank you 😀
Doesn’t the same thing apply for Steffy as well yes it does she’s a mean brat
Just like her mother
When he bonds with Bill, his dark side, Steffy is there but never is Hope
She invited herself to stay.
@@yeahright1786 the writers wanted her to stay probably because they always planned this steffy and hope and Liam thing
I’m wondering if out of all Brooke’s sisters and daughters, are there any of them that she hasn’t betrayed by having sex with one of their significant others? I liked Bill with Katie.
Donna but then Eric counts I guess lol but brook had him first and now flo I guess if she counts will see what happens with Wyatt
Yea Donna
So from they were teenagers Hope and Steffy have been fighting over Liam?
Well actually Hope dated Oliver first and Steffy chased him just to hurt Hope then she moved on to Bill and after she almost drowns and Liam saves her she falls for Liam most of the time she seems to just stay available just to cause trouble but there are times I prefer Steffy because she's always there for Liam
You. You are The Best Thing That's Ever Happened To Me. William Spencer the 3rd to Hope Logan Forrester.
She is Not a Forrester
@@luisaoelkers813 Um her mother is married to Ridge Forrester. Legally, Hope is a Forrester.
@@israeliqueen153 she is Not adopt she is a Sharp
@@israeliqueen153not a forrester. Legally or otherwise
lol you do realize Eric isn't Ridge's bio father nor did he adopt Ridge?@@luisaoelkers813
Ridge told Brooke hoegan the truth when he said he missed her on his lap. That statement alone just futher prove it's lust not love what Ridge feels for Brooke because she has the morality of an alley cat.
It is love. Lust would never ever last so many years. Ridge loves Brooke and she makes him happy and he cares about Brooke`s happiness.
She did the right thing. Oliver is tooooo good for her
"I love you"?
Didn't they meet three days ago? LOL
Hope and Liam were so beautiful together. I despise the writers for ruining them...sad.
Regardless of Ridge stepping in as a father (role model) for hope, but Brooke has always expected Ridge to choose Hope over Steffy, and that’s not alright
Ridge n Brooke are funny. Now Hope moved on with a new guy and Brooke is saying "oh I didn't ruin every thing!", yes Brooke, you ruined it for Hope n Oliver.
And there I have it dats ah image u never get out ur system,how dey allow liam to get pass such is beyond me
You know Oli. There’s plenty of fish in the sea at Genoa City
Oliver was a likeable character… such a shame they trashed the character in order to boost BrHooker with a disgusting story of her having sex up against a wall with a young man she thought was her husband… ridiculous storyline.
Ridge is just cool with it.
Hope and Liam are good together,
Lope's I Love Yous!
I'm so happy for Hope finally in love with Liam Spencer and Liam will be working his newly-found father Bill Spencer?
Brooke using her body as usual
I have always been team
Steffy but, watching this I really like hope and liams story too
Steffy went after hopes guys she is crazy
I'm still team Steffy. But getting the context of "Lope" from the beginning does make me feel a little bad for Hope.
So Liam is Bill Spencer's son and hopes aunt is married to Bill. Doesn't that technically make hope and Liam cousins of some kind?
No not really
@@AshleyFrancis-bu4yrMaybe legally but not by blood
ther you go liam attraction to Hope was she was a damsel in distress
Hope is just like her mother. Just going after a rich man.
Accident no you wife slept with her daughter boyfriend why did ridge give brooke a free pass brooke disgusting a few tears and all forgiven but she still making these mistakes today
The men on this show always give Brooke a pass
What happened to Liam’s stepdad? Did he die too?
Hope it ain’t your house girl it’s more Steffys house than yours. The audacity of the trash.
Ridge brought it for Brooke back in 1994. It has always been her house. Even in 2006 when Ridge was trying to get back together with Brooke, she reminded him it was her house and she decides who can and cannot come to her house. Hope has every right to tell Steffy to leave.
It was Hope’s home just as much as Steffy’s,Steffy had no business staying while they talked but as usual she just had to stick her nose into someone else’s business,Hope wasn’t trash she was a decent human being who helped people if she could stuffy was the trash Hope took out.
Hope had right telling Steffy to leave she is jealous of Steffy and did not want Liam to pay attention to Steffy. Hope is trash and still is
Hope is this Hope's house, I thought she moved in with Stephanie?
Steffy and bill a couple.
Our daughter 🙄
This just plain sickening, no one is lucky to have Brooke in their lives she ruins everyone's life
I think the Liam & the Logan women r so stupid. He's in love with Hope after a few days? Get real!! The airheads have their heads in the clouds!!!
All of a sudden Hopeless can't get pass what happen she's just like her smother brookhoe
now that she knows Liam is a $pencer, now she's going to lie to Oliver, when all this time she's been playing both of them ,the Hogan clan don't know how to be honest ,they all go to the highest bidder .
You know hope is a damn hypocrite. Looking back on these old videos; Oliver made one bad mistake that actually was an accident but Hope still ended things and yet here she is from the present and future keeps giving Liam so many chances after he lied, cheated and stole. Damn writers!!! 😂😂😂
She puts up with Liam sleeping with Steffy over and over again both women are stupid for wanting that man they are both better then him.