B&B in 2012 had its problems, but I can still appreciate the storylines. I just hate how the core 4 were too involved with their kids' stories instead of having their own.
Exactly, once Steffy, Liam and Hope became the front burner stories, and the original 4 core characters were slowly being pushed to the back burner, it was just unbearable. Nowadays you're lucky if you see Eric Forrester on the screen a couple times a month. It's just a totally different show now. BAD.
Liam love hope bill pushing steffy in liam hand liam he don't want steffy all beacons bill pushing steffy in liam hand stupid manipulation trouble make baby make manipulation
not true at all if Steffy signs up for it with manipulation a nd lies.. sure in this matter she is telling the truth, what a web we weave when we first practice to deceive, the first time was the gondala so of course Liam would choose not to buy it scurrying back to Hope. he isn't capable of being alone and why would he when Steffy is always there to offer it up, those cha cha chas, Liam has told Steffy he loved Hope and wanted to spend his life with her but Steffy just wasnt hearing it and instead standing by just in case, secondary supply then becoming the easy chair recliner, they only hook up by means of a misunderstanding. Liam and Steffy that is, and why wouldn't Liam take advantage of such situations as so to have his icecream cake with whipping on top? he never had the chance to be alone. either Hope was picking him up or Steffy, the only difference is that Hope was able to hold onto her integrity never having to lie and manipulate.
The Bill-Liam-Hope scene is so funny/weird, Hope keeps acting like the main aggrieved party, as if Bill owes HER most of all and is asking for mainly HER forgiveness 😂
Well, he kinda did mess up his son's relationship with Hope by pushing him towards Steffy and he was having an affair with Steffy while he was married to Katie. So technically he should apologize to both Liam and Hope.
@@ankina86 Not in this situation. Yes he has interferred in the relationship but Steffy suffered most of all. She thought she was dying. Where with Hope it was her time wasted.
I love Taylor's attitude. When Hope and Liam break up, that's the end of it. However, whenever Liam leaves Steffy she insists that it's just temporary!
No u are 100 percent wrong about about thomas beacons is puppet of his sister shem on thomas he take everything but steffy take the ring and put in hope's finger he is crork
This conversation is tip toeing around the main issues. The blood clot was not the main issue, him not wanting to be with Steffy was. He said she was a liar and manipulator and he didn't want to be with her. What more did he need to say.
Bill be thinking about steffy every chance he gets! You shouldn’t be thinking about his sons wife in anyway! So yes he wanted to keep steffy close to him!
that was just for starters, Hope had more backbone than Liamn and she was never afraid to confront him alone or in the front of many, she came at Bill with i believe a tire iron for constantly playing puppet master in her life in the front of many, he was possibly smearing her name, one of the narcissistic traits as well as being arrogant, its evil to toy with another's life. Liam being spineless and allowing Bill to rule over almost cost him and Bill there freedom just a few months ago, he had no backbone in that situation, both Hope and Steffy appeared to be of stronger will than the wuss. not afraid to speak up unlike Liam.
It’s crazy how when someone disagrees with Brooke, they’re just completely wrong in her opinion, but when she disagrees with someone else, it’s just a fact that they’re just support to accept.
OMG... Whatever, Liam... what the hell ever. Steffy should have run from her addition to Liam while she had the chance. Now, they a practically codependent.
Steffy came clean about Aspen without having to. She didn't get a chance to explain herself before her accident but she explained after (meanwhile Liam can't seem to understand his doing in it), so why would she lie about this? She would have come clean if it were true. Liam is an ass how he treats both Steffy and Hope.
Steffy came partially clean after the damage she caused with her lies manipulation and trickery. It in no way makes up for what she did or the damage she caused. Liam should have left steffy as soon as she gave her partial confession .
@@clairelally3644 and you think she was in any shape to conspire?? I mean have you ever actually had a head injury cause I know people who have and it was nowhere as severe as Steffys was and they could barely think so yeah I dont think she was in any shape to conspire with Bill
@@nickbrooks2084 Oh please! That woman could take on the Notre Dame offensive line with one hand tied behind her back. Scheming and lying is her default setting. All she would have had to do is tell Bill to bribe the doctor and let him do the dirty work!
I saw this episode 9 years and it still makes me mad. Steffy stole Liam from Hope with the help from Bill and Steffy and Bill still expect Liam to honor the marriage! and poor Hope, circumstances always stood in the way of her happiness with Liam and been going for 9 years.
Brooke, get ALL the facts before you pop the cork on the champagne. I despise this woman. She takes such joy in everyone’s (with the exception of Hope) misery.
Not true steffy was a liar from the beginning and you are blind when you not see the truth ,liam loves hope not steffy ,yes he has feeling for steffy but all this beginn with liar and manipulation
Lmao! Liam was all for Bill honoring his marriage to Katie. Now Bill is putting him on the same spot with regards to his marriage to Steffy. Lets see what sonny boy will do.
@@candacebrushett5651 and Liam didn't have to marry Steffy. He had free will and chose to exercise it by getting married. He could have said no but chose not to. That's on him.
I'll never understand the women on this show..... always trying to hang on, for dear life, to men who are clearly in love with someone else. Who would tolerate or want a marriage like that. The men too lol.
I wish Steffy had just left Lame alone because he wasn’t worth it. Whether Steffy went after Liam or not he didn’t have to marry Steffy. Liam is weak, plan and simple. Ridge was going back and forth with Brooke and Taylor until he found out Thomas was his son and that Brooke help keep the secret. Brooke is no better and Steffy took after her dear stepmom.
How can u do that to me answer that question who liam ask u steffy trouble make manipulation all hope boyfriend steffy back of and looking for u boyfriend
bill is not say u must by the doctor must lie about steffy live all beacons u want steffy behind u liam must stay with steffy baby make trouble make manipulation and liam love hope very much
As maybe steffy she can is such manipulation trouble make bill pushing steffy in liam hand and she as bill do that she do beacons is paper bag of hope boyfriend shem on u steffy
U tell here he must stay with he wife u such fool of nothing bill specer u vost liam must stay with steffy all of beacons u want steffy behind u bill trouble make manipulation
Liam ♥️ needs to stop being a waffling ping pong ball and dump liar hypocrite steffy 💔 for good 🛑💯 once and for all I'm sick of his waffling it's old tired 😴💔 and bill ♥️ needs to mind his own business for once and so does ridge 💞 and hypocrititcal Taylor because they can't make any of their relationship s work at all
The no blood close steffy is bill specer who blood close steffy of u are selfish siral killer steffy must go to jail to the rest of baby make steffy paper bag of all hope boyfriend
Is not liam food about u father bill back of what about u wife bill u tell liam stay with u wife is not liams wife is u girlfriend steffy trouble make baby make manipulation liam and hope over and over steffy back paper bag of all hope boyfriend shem on u steffy
Dump Liam - Steffy you can get so much better😅 Liam is NOT worthy of you. Let hopie have him, 2 kids playing house... Steffy you need a real man, not a boy
How indignant of Liam to now act like he’s better than Steffy but he entertained both woman at the same time
Karen Prince i e gree whith you
i must say Taylor and Brooke were looking so lovely back in the day.
B&B in 2012 had its problems, but I can still appreciate the storylines. I just hate how the core 4 were too involved with their kids' stories instead of having their own.
Exactly, once Steffy, Liam and Hope became the front burner stories, and the original 4 core characters were slowly being pushed to the back burner, it was just unbearable. Nowadays you're lucky if you see Eric Forrester on the screen a couple times a month. It's just a totally different show now. BAD.
Liam knows Steffy is innocent and is using this as an excuse to be with Hopeless.
Thomas made a good point.....Liam is stringing along Steffy and Hope
Yeah and both women r stupid to give him so much chances.
I would fall right into Thomas and leave Lame .
Liam love hope bill pushing steffy in liam hand liam he don't want steffy all beacons bill pushing steffy in liam hand stupid manipulation trouble make baby make manipulation
not true at all if Steffy signs up for it with manipulation a nd lies.. sure in this matter she is telling the truth, what a web we weave when we first practice to deceive, the first time was the gondala so of course Liam would choose not to buy it scurrying back to Hope. he isn't capable of being alone and why would he when Steffy is always there to offer it up, those cha cha chas, Liam has told Steffy he loved Hope and wanted to spend his life with her but Steffy just wasnt hearing it and instead standing by just in case, secondary supply then becoming the easy chair recliner, they only hook up by means of a misunderstanding. Liam and Steffy that is, and why wouldn't Liam take advantage of such situations as so to have his icecream cake with whipping on top? he never had the chance to be alone. either Hope was picking him up or Steffy, the only difference is that Hope was able to hold onto her integrity never having to lie and manipulate.
The Bill-Liam-Hope scene is so funny/weird, Hope keeps acting like the main aggrieved party, as if Bill owes HER most of all and is asking for mainly HER forgiveness 😂
Well, he kinda did mess up his son's relationship with Hope by pushing him towards Steffy and he was having an affair with Steffy while he was married to Katie. So technically he should apologize to both Liam and Hope.
Because she was his victim...
@@ankina86 Not in this situation. Yes he has interferred in the relationship but Steffy suffered most of all. She thought she was dying. Where with Hope it was her time wasted.
Hope trying so hard to get Bill to say Steffy was involved
I love Taylor's attitude. When Hope and Liam break up, that's the end of it. However, whenever Liam leaves Steffy she insists that it's just temporary!
Liam wanted any excuse to act like a jackass, Thomas was 100% correct about Liam
No u are 100 percent wrong about about thomas beacons is puppet of his sister shem on thomas he take everything but steffy take the ring and put in hope's finger he is crork
He is one of three sons now.
Steffy knows how to trigger Hope
This conversation is tip toeing around the main issues. The blood clot was not the main issue, him not wanting to be with Steffy was. He said she was a liar and manipulator and he didn't want to be with her. What more did he need to say.
Hhh Hopeless desperate to hear Bill say that Steffy is involved 🤣🤣🤣 loving the old episodes
Oh plz Bill and u still went and destroyed Hope and Liam relationship for steffy katie was correct he just wanted to have Steffy close to him
Neesha Anthony no he didn’t
Bill be thinking about steffy every chance he gets! You shouldn’t be thinking about his sons wife in anyway! So yes he wanted to keep steffy close to him!
I Agree 100% he always wanted Steffy near him.
No doubt
Thanks!
That’s right Steffy you don’t need his forgiveness!!!!
Hope u dished it out to Bill well,one ting with Bill and Steffy they always begging for second chances
Hopeless only grows a backbone when she with someone that can back her up like Liam or Smother otherwise by herself she's spinless
that was just for starters, Hope had more backbone than Liamn and she was never afraid to confront him alone or in the front of many, she came at Bill with i believe a tire iron for constantly playing puppet master in her life in the front of many, he was possibly smearing her name, one of the narcissistic traits as well as being arrogant, its evil to toy with another's life. Liam being spineless and allowing Bill to rule over almost cost him and Bill there freedom just a few months ago, he had no backbone in that situation, both Hope and Steffy appeared to be of stronger will than the wuss. not afraid to speak up unlike Liam.
It’s crazy how when someone disagrees with Brooke, they’re just completely wrong in her opinion, but when she disagrees with someone else, it’s just a fact that they’re just support to accept.
And Taylor, Steffy, Ridge and the others are not the same? lol
Oh Bill and u only know to do the right ting when it pleases u
So Bill ruined Steffy and Liam's 1st marriage and their 3rd one
OMG... Whatever, Liam... what the hell ever. Steffy should have run from her addition to Liam while she had the chance. Now, they a practically codependent.
And she's still lying to save her tail!
How can Liam think Steffy was guilty.. SHE WAS IN A COMA! How can she plan anything when she is unconscious
Exactly he is so dumb
Nickie25 yeah he really is❗️
This is why everybody hates Liam and thinks he's an idiot! 🤣
Liam is such a baby as soon as steffy does something he doesn’t like he goes back to hope with his tale between his legs boohoo
So right
Steffy came clean about Aspen without having to. She didn't get a chance to explain herself before her accident but she explained after (meanwhile Liam can't seem to understand his doing in it), so why would she lie about this? She would have come clean if it were true. Liam is an ass how he treats both Steffy and Hope.
I agree with you 100%. That is Liam, hypocrite.
Steffy came partially clean after the damage she caused with her lies manipulation and trickery. It in no way makes up for what she did or the damage she caused. Liam should have left steffy as soon as she gave her partial confession .
Idk what you mean by without having to. Do you mean because when he asked her she lied to his face and was getting away with it?
She came clean after Hope forced her to lie to Liam's face! She would have happily lied by omission for decades.
My question is how did her and bill do this when she was in a coma like really....
She was awake by the time that the blood clot was revealed!
@@clairelally3644 and you think she was in any shape to conspire?? I mean have you ever actually had a head injury cause I know people who have and it was nowhere as severe as Steffys was and they could barely think so yeah I dont think she was in any shape to conspire with Bill
@@nickbrooks2084 Oh please! That woman could take on the Notre Dame offensive line with one hand tied behind her back. Scheming and lying is her default setting. All she would have had to do is tell Bill to bribe the doctor and let him do the dirty work!
@@clairelally3644 You obviously know nothing about the human brain😂🤣 or how much it can take
@@nickbrooks2084 How hard is it to understand the words "Liam is going to leave you"?
Steffy is the blame she lied to liam she won't stop
I saw this episode 9 years and it still makes me mad. Steffy stole Liam from Hope with the help from Bill and Steffy and Bill still expect Liam to honor the marriage! and poor Hope, circumstances always stood in the way of her happiness with Liam and been going for 9 years.
Brooke, get ALL the facts before you pop the cork on the champagne. I despise this woman. She takes such joy in everyone’s (with the exception of Hope) misery.
Yeah, how dare she celebrate in her daughter getting some justice for once!
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These Logans women always goes after Steffy.
Not true steffy was a liar from the beginning and you are blind when you not see the truth ,liam loves hope not steffy ,yes he has feeling for steffy but all this beginn with liar and manipulation
Actually, Steffy is the one who has constantly pursued the Logans' men.
@@annasutter7135 PRECISELY!!
@@clairelally3644 100%
Are you watching this soap or what?
So tired of it never being Steffy at fault
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Bill said it best.
Lmao! Liam was all for Bill honoring his marriage to Katie. Now Bill is putting him on the same spot with regards to his marriage to Steffy. Lets see what sonny boy will do.
Yes but Katie never manipulated to get Bill
@@candacebrushett5651 and Liam didn't have to marry Steffy. He had free will and chose to exercise it by getting married. He could have said no but chose not to. That's on him.
Good❤🎉diana
Bill, are you kidding Hope? Deprive her the opportunity to play victim once again.
Bill an steffy always orchastrated stuff so steffy is in the wrong always lyin to liam shes not true to liam hope has never lied to liam not once
Loam should leave steffy for all the lies and manipulation’s
If is the money who don't this is better to be poor
She gonna lie to her parents
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....apparently the all mighty Hope did not learn squat about prejudging a person. The mistake she made with Beverly. 😱
Who did she prejudge
Liam is not a child he cant be tricked by a woman too wtf
Yes he can be and was.
Did u here what hope say u must do the promises bill
Bill asked Liam to help him not Hope.
He ask all of them liam and hope must hulp them
steffy u tell hope she want and his marryd why she don't think before she do anything
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Is not liam fold wen u farther the for u
I'll never understand the women on this show..... always trying to hang on, for dear life, to men who are clearly in love with someone else. Who would tolerate or want a marriage like that. The men too lol.
Stay with your wife Steff
U say u save u son marryd what about u married bill?
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I wish Steffy had just left Lame alone because he wasn’t worth it. Whether Steffy went after Liam or not he didn’t have to marry Steffy. Liam is weak, plan and simple. Ridge was going back and forth with Brooke and Taylor until he found out Thomas was his son and that Brooke help keep the secret. Brooke is no better and Steffy took after her dear stepmom.
Hope is not problem u and bill steffy u trouble make manipulation epaselly u steffy u take all hope boyfriend's shem on u steffy
It's A B&B Mystery It's A B&B Primetime Mystery It's A B&B Mystery!
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How can u do that to me answer that question who liam ask u steffy trouble make manipulation all hope boyfriend steffy back of and looking for u boyfriend
It's A B&B Romance Mysteries Mystery It's A B&B Mysteries Mystery!
Why are defending steffy u are sick like bill u are such manipulation trouble make baby make shem on u steffy
Liam. I. Think. We. Have. All. Had. Just. About. Of. You. Hurting. Both of. These. Women
They need some young men on this show, because chasing after this clown Liam isn't working.
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U tell here he must stay with steffy all what about u married bill
Liam and hope walking off together ew
STUPID IS WHAT STUPID DOES.
bill is not say u must by the doctor must lie about steffy live all beacons u want steffy behind u liam must stay with steffy baby make trouble make manipulation and liam love hope very much
Hope stay out or shout your big mouth up it because of you and your m ok mother that steffy and Liam are divorce
Celia Marshall steffy couldn’t stop lying to Liam! She was always joining forces with bill to keep hope and Liam apart!
Lol delusional much? Another Steam fan that refuses to admit what Steffy does.
@@oneishaowens247 Very well said!
No, that was all Steffy! Their marriage nevrr would have happened if it weren't for her and Bill's manipulations.
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Steffy u liam are marryd hope she didn't ask such manipulation marry from the beginning u and bill
Liam he don't love u this man bill and is stabone he what liam he must do he want to do not for liam for bill
You. Are. Gonna. Get. Hurt. In. The. End. And. If. You. Wake. Up. And. Realize. What. You keep. Doing. And. Stop. This. Behaviour. Of. Yours. You. Will be. Able. To. Make. Up. Your. Mind. Which Woman. You. Want. To. Be. With...this. story. Line. Is. Dragging. Out. Way. Too. Long..its. getting. Boreing. Just. Like. You. Liam..get. a. Grip. Please..i. know. You. Have. One..
4:36 not true
As maybe steffy she can is such manipulation trouble make bill pushing steffy in liam hand and she as bill do that she do beacons is paper bag of hope boyfriend shem on u steffy
Who bad guy u thomas u are puppet of u steffy so back of and looking for u girl friend not hope she is in love with liam very much
Don't plain hope is u trouble make baby make manipulation liam and hope over and over u and boyfriend bill father in low
Thomas is better to closer big mouth of u wena thomas u was the u wand to sleep with hope and put the ring on hope fingers
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Liam don't leave stephy you love her go back to stephy and fight for your marriage with stephy not hope
Liam go to hope. Leave that trashy steffy.
U tell here he must stay with he wife u such fool of nothing bill specer u vost liam must stay with steffy all of beacons u want steffy behind u bill trouble make manipulation
Is better to closer big mouth of u steffy u manipulation hope and liam over and over u and bill steffy who are u steffy
You dont love liam your just a recon ball always in the wrong likeni said before so steffy take your ring off an get over it
Liam ♥️ needs to stop being a waffling ping pong ball and dump liar hypocrite steffy 💔 for good 🛑💯 once and for all I'm sick of his waffling it's old tired 😴💔 and bill ♥️ needs to mind his own business for once and so does ridge 💞 and hypocrititcal Taylor because they can't make any of their relationship s work at all
The no blood close steffy is bill specer who blood close steffy of u are selfish siral killer steffy must go to jail to the rest of baby make steffy paper bag of all hope boyfriend
Is not liam food about u father bill back of what about u wife bill u tell liam stay with u wife is not liams wife is u girlfriend steffy trouble make baby make manipulation liam and hope over and over steffy back paper bag of all hope boyfriend shem on u steffy
Dump Liam - Steffy you can get so much better😅 Liam is NOT worthy of you. Let hopie have him, 2 kids playing house...
Steffy you need a real man, not a boy