probably the only guitar player who is able to play with de Lucia one day and joke around with lagrene the other day...I would smile too...What a record this man...remained very humble and kind..
[Inconceivable] horror movie-level Stupidity has overtaken the planet, increasing for decades. It's way beyond any kind of communicable pandemic that a mere virus could cause. It's actively destroying all societies.
Musikalische Konversation auf einem hohen level. Jeder der beiden hat einen anderen Hintergrund, aber sie begegnen sich und kommunizieren improvisatorisch miteinander. Sie respektieren sich gegenseitig und haben eine Menge Spaß miteinander. Zwei Jazzgiganten...
McLaughlin has paid great tribute to Coltrane. No one wins or loses in music. As Coltrane set a standard in saxophone, so has JM in guitar....great stuff.
Amazing how McLaughlin and Lagrene play off each other alternating intricate picking, comping, wailing, walking, and ENJOYING each other. I was enjoying the interplay so much when they returned to the Coltrane line, I was almost surprised. Excellent. Thank you for posting this.
All those who say "Johnny Mac has no soul" just don't listen. More artists play his stuff and want to appear with him than any other artist since Jimmy. Oh that's right, John did a gig with him also. lol
John is always smiling :) and I'm pretty sure he plays every duos or trios like "peace fights"... like in the early 80's with corryel and Paco de Lucia
@stupot29 I LOVE JM's tone - it was around this time he started adding a little chorus and distortion, as heard on the After the Rain album. The jazz purists don't like it at all, and I can understand that, because they like everyone to play the same, they don't like change or innovation, which is ironic considering it's jazz!. It works better in a group context, and he has evolved it to what he now does with Godin solidbody guitars plugged direct into a Macbook running Tube Amp 2 software.
Interesting comment. Reminds me of the time I was a teenager in the 60's and I played "Four and More" by Miles Davis for my friends. I was certain that they would really dig it. Before the first song was half-way through they all told me to take that record off the turntable so they could listen to Diana Ross and The Supremes! They thought jazz was pure noise. It was to them but, of course, not to me.
@Rg1527 I didn't actually say that JM was innovating by using chorus and distortion - he was using a 12 string/6 string doubleneck into an overdriven Marshall with the "Mahi Mahi" Orchestra 20 years earlier to get exactly those effects, it's just that there seems to be a school of thought in jazz that says we all have to sound like Wes Montgomery if we play a jazz box, and nothing else is acceptable. JM has evolved an increasingly distorted sound over the years which I particularly like.
@4578a and @Dubaiman123 The reason McLaughlin is smiling is because he enjoys their magnificent conversation. It's not about playing the most notes per second or being the best, it's about enjoying eachother's art of improvising, an together creating a wonderful dialogue. It's like a conversation between Jesus and Barack Obama.
I'm fairly new to jazz, could someone tell me if they use Coltrane's chord changes here, or if not, what chord progressions constitute the rhythm here? Thank You very much indeed
@filtecuk Ill agree with you there. Im actually in uni studying jazz performance at the moment and there are a few too many people who dont consider anything outside bebop "proper jazz" its people like that who'll never be successful or happy. Btw, My channel doesnt have any jazz videos theyre just really old metal ones incase you look, im to self concious to post the jazz tuff im playing now as i havent been doing it that long :P
@highlandbrian Indeed, I'm sure we'll find all sorts of neat things to disagree on, & I look forward to it! I met Scofield when I let Scott Henderson borrow my 4x12 cabinet; he's very much taller than his pictures let on...
Are you basing this stupid comment on this video only, or on McLaughlin's entire body of work? No one who has ever picked up a guitar done more for the instrument than John Mclaughlin.
This video makes me wish John had appeared on "Spaces Revisited" w/ Coryell & Bireli- nice blend here, and John dosen't blend well with too many other guitarists.
Yeah, I think it's good we have differing opinions, I don't know why people get soo defensive. The argument usually goes from the guitarist to attacking each other over grammatical and spelling mistakes.
They are both playing Gibsons. I think McLaughlin's is officially a Johnny Smith model, Lagréne's an L5 with a floating pickup. They are essentially the same guitar, 17 inch lower bout, carved from solid wood.
@filtecuk I wouldnt call chorus and distortion innovation to be honest.. its just tonal preference. Does sound like a fusion tone though which is why these "jazz purists" may not like it. I personally think its because that tone wouldnt sit well in the classic jazz ensemble format.. But with modern jazz, sure! Jazz is always moving ahead, with the music not the tone used.
probably the only guitar player who is able to play with de Lucia one day and joke around with lagrene the other day...I would smile too...What a record this man...remained very humble and kind..
Negative comments about Bireli show the immense musical stupidity of those who write them. Bireli is a genius and he is music all by himself.
True
Bireli is music
[Inconceivable] horror movie-level Stupidity has overtaken the planet, increasing for decades. It's way beyond any kind of communicable pandemic that a mere virus could cause. It's actively destroying all societies.
It's incredible how McLaughlin is able to pick every note even in super fast lines. His control of tone is unbelievable.
It useful, super rythymic.
Musikalische Konversation auf einem hohen level. Jeder der beiden hat einen anderen Hintergrund, aber sie begegnen sich und kommunizieren improvisatorisch miteinander. Sie respektieren sich gegenseitig und haben eine Menge Spaß miteinander. Zwei Jazzgiganten...
Listening to John Mclaughlin has made me a better musician. Thank you Maestro.
John McLaughlin the king of alternate picking! What an awesome blues - these guys are incredible!
The interaction between the two of these master is great. This is what its all about right here. Thanks for posting
Bireli sounds terrific comping with a walking bass line under John's solo.
As Miles Davis said about John McLaughlin: " He's the one, the killer," Incredible what this man is able to play!
This is probably the most fun Bireli Lagrene has had playing guitar
McLaughlin has paid great tribute to Coltrane. No one wins or loses in music. As Coltrane set a standard in saxophone, so has JM in guitar....great stuff.
John M is an alien from the planet Geetar! Wow!
Amazing how McLaughlin and Lagrene play off each other alternating intricate picking, comping, wailing, walking, and ENJOYING each other. I was enjoying the interplay so much when they returned to the Coltrane line, I was almost surprised. Excellent. Thank you for posting this.
All those who say "Johnny Mac has no soul" just don't listen. More artists play his stuff and want to appear with him than any other artist since Jimmy. Oh that's right, John did a gig with him also. lol
He didn't do a gig with him
All those who say this need to listen to th-cam.com/video/iYVaEe97jcI/w-d-xo.html
Au début, il y a la façon dont John McLaughlin installe le rythme et le tempo; c'est magistral et ça tient tout le morceau. magnifique
Consider this, both these guys spent tens of thousands of hours learning and perfecting their craft.
Actually Bireli just needed a relatively short time to reach a level of mastery on guitar.
Well- with even less than 10 hours practicing a day you'll reach the 10 000 hours in 3 years
Bireli plays always citations, I love that, and at 2:09 it's Joe Zawinul/Weather Report "Birdland", nice.
Great catch! I missed it the first go around.
John is always smiling :) and I'm pretty sure he plays every duos or trios like "peace fights"... like in the early 80's with corryel and Paco de Lucia
John's got the Vegas hairdo. Wish I had that much hair left at his age! 2 of the best guitarists over the last 40 years
Get a wig.
John Mc.Laughin'
The Pope of Guitar
@stupot29 I LOVE JM's tone - it was around this time he started adding a little chorus and distortion, as heard on the After the Rain album. The jazz purists don't like it at all, and I can understand that, because they like everyone to play the same, they don't like change or innovation, which is ironic considering it's jazz!. It works better in a group context, and he has evolved it to what he now does with Godin solidbody guitars plugged direct into a Macbook running Tube Amp 2 software.
John Mclaughlin has a very genuine style
After "Duelling Banjos" came ... my God, there were sparks here !
Wow..what a treat....two of my favs.......too cool
two guitar gods playing a John Coltrane tune.... what more do you want?
That solo by John was #brilliant!
☆☆☆☆☆
Bireli Lagrene is great as well!
!!Outstanding!! (says a mortal human who,is watching)
Oh and remember this, no matter how good, sweet, fast, fluent, articulate,.....you are, there's always somebody...........................! Nuff said.
Interesting comment. Reminds me of the time I was a teenager in the 60's and I played "Four and More" by Miles Davis for my friends. I was certain that they would really dig it. Before the first song was half-way through they all told me to take that record off the turntable so they could listen to Diana Ross and The Supremes! They thought jazz was pure noise. It was to them but, of course, not to me.
FANTASTIC !
@Rg1527 I didn't actually say that JM was innovating by using chorus and distortion - he was using a 12 string/6 string doubleneck into an overdriven Marshall with the "Mahi Mahi" Orchestra 20 years earlier to get exactly those effects, it's just that there seems to be a school of thought in jazz that says we all have to sound like Wes Montgomery if we play a jazz box, and nothing else is acceptable. JM has evolved an increasingly distorted sound over the years which I particularly like.
John McLaughlin es otro mundo totalmente...
noot only does Mc Laughlin play fast, but. he swings!!!!! That i didn't know...Never seen him play blues!!
Their smiles say it all...
This is absolutely brilliant! Thanks for posting. Never saw this before.
Fantastici !!!
God Bireli is absolutely savage
Quand deux génies se rencontrent et s'amusent...
A lesson in Playing (>in the original sense of the word) !
Love the "Laura" quote at 0:45 :-)
Great ear. I missed it completely on several listenings before I got to you comment. Thanks!
Mr. Mclaughlin is able to be a bluesman. Whenever he wants or needs to play in that way. But , mamma mia, he hardly does it!!
yeah his phrasing is exquisite
@4578a and @Dubaiman123
The reason McLaughlin is smiling is because he enjoys their magnificent conversation. It's not about playing the most notes per second or being the best, it's about enjoying eachother's art of improvising, an together creating a wonderful dialogue. It's like a conversation between Jesus and Barack Obama.
Barack Obama a surtout discuté avec Satan, dont il est le plus fidèle adepte!
John is much more musical in this.
Transcription of John's solo available at:
johnmclaughlinblues
thanks man
Cool...thanks!!
2 grandissimi
I love this, thanks
Top Line..
JM's guitar is like a nicely aged red wine.
John: surprise me…! He embodies what playing is all about
Not easy to play with John… pushing him further, always….It’s He who introduced Bireli 👍
Perlistan Broadcasting: Since Han Solo comes in the future; he will be wearing John's clothes.
+Marle Fenno A Long, long time ago, in a galaxy far far away
Perlistan Broadcasting my bad memory. T'was my kids that found Star Wars iconic... I'm a great grand mother
What Fun!
BIRELI IS GODDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
John plays nice chords.
2:09 -Birdland!
1:13 best lick ever!
Two "frenchmen" jamming on jazz/blues. How often do you see that?
WOW!
@steofairc John always smiles when he is playing guitar. He is just a good liver.
Why is John wearing Han Solo's Clothes?
And the hair cut?
Listen to the music...never mind the haircut or the clothing! (?)
Perlistan Broadcasting because hes doing Han(d) Solo(s)🤣i lol'd at yr comment funny🙈🕺🏼
Because this was recorded on May the Fourth.
@sREUDIAN fLIP LOL, you must be at least...oh I don't know, 16 years old.
i like the weather report reference
💪🏼💪🏼Bireli=Bruce Lee 💪🏼💪🏼
@highlandbrian Henderson is very nice, and a great player. I kinda run hot & cold on Carlton---I do like Ford, though.
Quand les grands se rencontrent
Jooooooohn!!
I'm fairly new to jazz, could someone tell me if they use Coltrane's chord changes here, or if not, what chord progressions constitute the rhythm here? Thank You very much indeed
wow !
wooooow !!!!
Yep.
Off the proverbial hook.
@steofairc i've noticed that he always smiles while playn' with lagrene...they must get along well
Like heavy
3:43 genius!
the white socks?? unreal!!!
Both utterly brilliant but for me the two approaches don't quite gel.
@filtecuk Ill agree with you there. Im actually in uni studying jazz performance at the moment and there are a few too many people who dont consider anything outside bebop "proper jazz" its people like that who'll never be successful or happy.
Btw, My channel doesnt have any jazz videos theyre just really old metal ones incase you look, im to self concious to post the jazz tuff im playing now as i havent been doing it that long :P
McLaughlin owns this one.
@highlandbrian Indeed, I'm sure we'll find all sorts of neat things to disagree on, & I look forward to it! I met Scofield when I let Scott Henderson borrow my 4x12 cabinet; he's very much taller than his pictures let on...
Are you basing this stupid comment on this video only, or on McLaughlin's
entire body of work? No one who has ever picked up a guitar done more
for the instrument than John Mclaughlin.
@sREUDIAN fLIP lol sure
Two monsters of their craft..
This video makes me wish John had appeared on "Spaces Revisited" w/ Coryell & Bireli- nice blend here, and John dosen't blend well with too many other guitarists.
@highlandbrian
Spot on
Yeah, I think it's good we have differing opinions, I don't know why people get soo defensive. The argument usually goes from the guitarist to attacking each other over grammatical and spelling mistakes.
იპროვიზაციის ორი გენიოსი სხვადასხვა თაობიდან..🎉
Simply said,John picks harder and is absolutely superior in alternate picking.That's what matters to me.
🌱😃🌷💙
Yeeeessssss
Bereli All Day! Love it..John is loving it..Beauty!!
john = master, bireli = rick sanchez
I prefer Mclaughlin's style and swing !
Fellas, make some noise with these scraps of wood & wire.
At 045...an angel fait "coucou"..c'est "LAURA" !!
I wish theses cat’s would let loose (a little) 🤓
Plays John McLaughlin and Bireli Lagrene a Gretsch guitar??? I know it not, but looks almost as out of. Love this sound!!
They are both playing Gibsons. I think McLaughlin's is officially a Johnny Smith model, Lagréne's an L5 with a floating pickup. They are essentially the same guitar, 17 inch lower bout, carved from solid wood.
Lagrene have there Gibson Super V BJB
Birelli's a force of nature, but I think John smoked him this time
ML is on point.
lolol king of speed still john
🌷😃💙🍀
@Levithia100 I think they were both made by a little American company called "Gibson"....LOL
@filtecuk I wouldnt call chorus and distortion innovation to be honest.. its just tonal preference. Does sound like a fusion tone though which is why these "jazz purists" may not like it. I personally think its because that tone wouldnt sit well in the classic jazz ensemble format.. But with modern jazz, sure!
Jazz is always moving ahead, with the music not the tone used.
I am not a jazz purist still I would prefere a less processed tone especially in the context of a duo.
agreed
@BossMannDoomCrush yea it's just a blues