Hopeful someone will one day release Ceaserreich, so that we can have what if Germany lost WWI in the eyes of someone who lives in a world where Germany won WWI in the eyes of someone who lives in a world where Germany lost WWI in the eyes of someone who lives in a world where Germany won WWI when in reality Germany lost WWI.
I present to you Tsarreich. (An alternate history from Ceasarreich) This is supposed to be a satirical novel made by trotsky making fun of the current government, however is a good alt hist novel in its own right. The story is about an exiled communist revolutionary (known as the red legion, headed by Trotsky ofc) who tries his hardest to live a normal life. Being a communist (and not hiding it) he gets discriminated against. He also secretly is trying to spread the revolution. In this timeline the British decide not to take their chances with unrestricted submarine warfare. Due to the Americans not joining the Germans the Entente win WW2. However in this timeline, after the war, the Entente troops stationed in Germany are sent away into the collapsing Tsardom. They secure buffer states along the way, keeping the similar German borders they had made with a couple exceptions (Poland has ONLY Poznan and west Ukraine like in our timeline but not west Belarus), Ukraine only goes up to the Dnieper (ill talk about what happens to the west later), Finland and Karelia are granted to Sweden and finally that Estonia, Latvia and Courland (the first chapter is in here so they are important for later) are separate. The Tsardom of Russia is restored, however are divided with Finland granted to Sweden, everything beyong the Urals a dictatorship under Kolchak, everything south of the Volga river (they own the other half of Ukraine and they are up until the Mountain republic who exist) is part of the Republic of Novorossiya. The caucus is five countries: Mountain republic (Consisting of all of Ossetia, Dagestan, Chechnya, Ingushetia, Kabardino Balkaria, Karachey Cherkessia and Abkhazia) Georgia, Azerbijan (Also have minority groups from Iran), Republic of Artsakh (Modern Armenia + Artsakh + Azeri enclave) Armenia (All Turkish and Iranian minority groups of Armenia). Central Asia is a mess full of Warlord states. The Primorskiy Krai is a Japanese puppet, every minority in south Russia is given to Mongolia, the entirety of the Russian pacific border states and Sakha minorities are turned into the far eastern republic (supervised by America). Finally, Austria Hungary is divided up similair as in our timeline but Italy and Serbia receive nothing, instead there is still a Hapsburg Austria and all Slavic states in the Empire are given to Illyria. Czechoslovakia is attempted but fails and is subjugated by their neighbors of Hungary and Germany. Greater Hungary exists except Croatia. After the troops secure Russia, Germany does not get that harsh of a loss, only Four things are implemented: All occupied lands will be given back to their rightful owner (eastern states are reorganized by the Entente), Alslace Lorraine to France, Poznan to Poland and finally no more Hohenzollern. However after the war is finished a revolution takes place reinstating them, and since the Entente just finished a war they decide to let it go. Germany takes all of the Sudetenland (Except the southern part which is given to Austria) and Czechia becomes Bohemia, their puppet state. Their other puppet state is Courland, which during the Entente invasion of Russia, German troops secured all of Latvia south of the Daugava river. Finally Iran (carved up), Italy (France annexes Piedmont and Sardinia) and Turkey (treaty of Sevres borders) are the only existing Communist states. That's it. Hopefully u see this.
For Romania, if the AntiqNats manage to get power it would be cool to see some sort of split occuring between those aligned with Rome and those wishing to restore Dacia
Dad for gods sake it’s been months since you left for the milk and now your making videos about caeser??? In your heart, you know he’s right long live president kimball
Maybe if Spain joins the diarchy it could force Greece and Italy to install a triarchy, there you could reference a bit the Second Triumvirate and it's territories/ambitions where you would have to appease the various representatives of the triarchy by for an example conquering Ottoman Africa and dividing it amongst the triarchy territories, then you could have a dynamic where Hispania (Spain) pushes air innovation, Latium (Italy) with land forces and Hellas/Ellada (Greece) with navy. The narrative of the mod tickles the mind quite a bit and I'd be honored to be a part of such project in the lore/map team :)
I was a WoA modder, and I love the work you put into reimagining this scenario! Especially the diarchy and everything you did with the Balkans. A world where Russia is communist and the US is a decaying empire would have so many competing factions: the USA vs Germany & Rome vs Soviets & Danubia vs France & Austria vs Ottomans vs the UK vs whatever is happening in Asia. I just wish we thought more about creating an original gameplay experience like this with WoA.
@@clibfilm I had been initially, but my work with them ceased after they took the project in their own direction. Wish them the best, no ill will, but there isn’t a place for me there
problem with the name Caesarreich is that it breaks the pattern of regression, both because Caesar is the Italian leader and because kaiserreich and furherreich both have Germany as the "main character" so to speak, the name is after what happened to germany after the war thus in this case it should be something like Caesarimperio on a side note, whoever makes this needs to make another regression alt history scenario event, I vote Czarreich (Tsarskayaimperiya), a world where Russia won ww1 from the perspective of a Ukrainian from this world
As a terminal Fuhrerreich addict: I find no flaws in this timeline. All perfectly reasonable! I'd like to see LoreDad fix the problems he mentioned with FR too if possible like Valkism not making sense outside of Germany.
Actually in the case of Spain in the case of Historic Communities of the country, like Catalonia, Basque Country or Galicia, there were at the time certain movements with an Independentist Agenda. In the case of this 3 from the 1920's forming pacts known as GalEusCat. More over in the case of Galicia (Maybe in Catalonia and Basque Country there is similar examples, but Galicia is my comunnity), there is some politicians with a great fascination over the most Esoteric Galician Past, like Vicente Risco. If this mod idea finally come to some place I will gladly offer my help in work in the Spanish and Portuguese lore
@@oliverhendrix8176 Millenium dawn has Salafism to represent some hardline ideologies. And also it’s not an alt history so Spain already sorted out their differences in the 1930’s
Wow, that's my map in the background! Forgotten I'd even made it. Yeah, I think that certainly the scenario had some flaws, but could have been an interesting mod nonetheless.
One option for China and Japan that I think could be interesting is Yuan’s Empire of China succeeding and siding with the Central Powers against Japan with Japan being thrown out of the Continent.
for a spanish antiquarian nationalist faction you could search information about the palmarian christian church if i remeber right they made Franco a saint and crazy shit like that, maybe a variation of that church a little bit more "radical" could work well.
You could make it so that the British use more covert/decision based ways to restore their empire under an antiquarian nationalist idea that involved restoring the British Empire, leading to a climax where Britain starts a pro-Anglosphere revolution, leading to a European Victor (Germano-Roman/Franco-Austrian/Communist) vs. Anglosphere cold war scenario.
And for Spain, I think Antiquarians could work, but you would have to mix it up a bit, maybe some kind of reconquista 2.0/10th Crusade the Carlist would embark to redeem the nation in the eyes of the lord
For Asia I have some ideas Japan would be allied with Britain as they are both Far right military dictatorships who hate the United States For China I think it should have Sun Yat Sen live longer and be able to stabalize the republic but it is still split into multiple states who swear loyalty to the Central government which could play as a race for time for Japan as they try to conquer China before the chinese states could fully unify. If China where to reign victorious over Japan they would become an Anti-Imperialist power who is dead set on vanqishing the Imperialists from Asia which would make a good ally for the United States who have to choose between to either have China or Russis as an ally
I was thinking anout a series called Ceaserreich, but I would have thought it would have been like the Holy Roman Empire, because of the fact that 'reich' is German
How far these nesting dolls of alt-history will go, it's anyone guess... well we could take a break from it by making a simple kick. No, I don't regret anything
what if a United arab state and a Jewish State in Palestine Sinaï we're created after ww1 What if the calippoli campaign succeeded What if the Portuguese revolution failed and the Portuguese monarchie staid in power What if Spain joined the central powers
Due to being a parent the only time of day I can record my voice is in the middle of the night, usually this leads to me sounding tired (because I am) Thanks for the feedback
Caesarreich an alt-hist of an alt-hist of an alt-hist
im confused…
You're not meant to understand
You're meant to enjoy
Ah so like Fuhrerreich
Hopeful someone will one day release Ceaserreich, so that we can have what if Germany lost WWI in the eyes of someone who lives in a world where Germany won WWI in the eyes of someone who lives in a world where Germany lost WWI in the eyes of someone who lives in a world where Germany won WWI when in reality Germany lost WWI.
Alt-hist-ception
Romanticist Nationalism would be a great name imo
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Viva l'Italia
Ave
Forza romaa
How are you so early
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But, hear me out: A mod about "What if Germany lost ww1" from Caeserreich in the prespective of someone in Caeserreich?
that will happen once they make a caeserreich mod
Maybe like, I Dunno, Red flood?
Jk
Like maybe something focusing on the Soviets
@@felipethecommunistboy do i have news for you
I present to you Tsarreich. (An alternate history from Ceasarreich)
This is supposed to be a satirical novel made by trotsky making fun of the current government, however is a good alt hist novel in its own right.
The story is about an exiled communist revolutionary (known as the red legion, headed by Trotsky ofc) who tries his hardest to live a normal life. Being a communist (and not hiding it) he gets discriminated against. He also secretly is trying to spread the revolution. In this timeline the British decide not to take their chances with unrestricted submarine warfare. Due to the Americans not joining the Germans the Entente win WW2. However in this timeline, after the war, the Entente troops stationed in Germany are sent away into the collapsing Tsardom. They secure buffer states along the way, keeping the similar German borders they had made with a couple exceptions (Poland has ONLY Poznan and west Ukraine like in our timeline but not west Belarus), Ukraine only goes up to the Dnieper (ill talk about what happens to the west later), Finland and Karelia are granted to Sweden and finally that Estonia, Latvia and Courland (the first chapter is in here so they are important for later) are separate. The Tsardom of Russia is restored, however are divided with Finland granted to Sweden, everything beyong the Urals a dictatorship under Kolchak, everything south of the Volga river (they own the other half of Ukraine and they are up until the Mountain republic who exist) is part of the Republic of Novorossiya. The caucus is five countries: Mountain republic (Consisting of all of Ossetia, Dagestan, Chechnya, Ingushetia, Kabardino Balkaria, Karachey Cherkessia and Abkhazia) Georgia, Azerbijan (Also have minority groups from Iran), Republic of Artsakh (Modern Armenia + Artsakh + Azeri enclave) Armenia (All Turkish and Iranian minority groups of Armenia). Central Asia is a mess full of Warlord states. The Primorskiy Krai is a Japanese puppet, every minority in south Russia is given to Mongolia, the entirety of the Russian pacific border states and Sakha minorities are turned into the far eastern republic (supervised by America). Finally, Austria Hungary is divided up similair as in our timeline but Italy and Serbia receive nothing, instead there is still a Hapsburg Austria and all Slavic states in the Empire are given to Illyria. Czechoslovakia is attempted but fails and is subjugated by their neighbors of Hungary and Germany. Greater Hungary exists except Croatia. After the troops secure Russia, Germany does not get that harsh of a loss, only Four things are implemented: All occupied lands will be given back to their rightful owner (eastern states are reorganized by the Entente), Alslace Lorraine to France, Poznan to Poland and finally no more Hohenzollern. However after the war is finished a revolution takes place reinstating them, and since the Entente just finished a war they decide to let it go. Germany takes all of the Sudetenland (Except the southern part which is given to Austria) and Czechia becomes Bohemia, their puppet state. Their other puppet state is Courland, which during the Entente invasion of Russia, German troops secured all of Latvia south of the Daugava river. Finally Iran (carved up), Italy (France annexes Piedmont and Sardinia) and Turkey (treaty of Sevres borders) are the only existing Communist states.
That's it. Hopefully u see this.
Really interesting idea!
For Romania, if the AntiqNats manage to get power it would be cool to see some sort of split occuring between those aligned with Rome and those wishing to restore Dacia
Dad for gods sake it’s been months since you left for the milk and now your making videos about caeser???
In your heart, you know he’s right long live president kimball
Maybe if Spain joins the diarchy it could force Greece and Italy to install a triarchy, there you could reference a bit the Second Triumvirate and it's territories/ambitions where you would have to appease the various representatives of the triarchy by for an example conquering Ottoman Africa and dividing it amongst the triarchy territories, then you could have a dynamic where Hispania (Spain) pushes air innovation, Latium (Italy) with land forces and Hellas/Ellada (Greece) with navy. The narrative of the mod tickles the mind quite a bit and I'd be honored to be a part of such project in the lore/map team :)
I was a WoA modder, and I love the work you put into reimagining this scenario! Especially the diarchy and everything you did with the Balkans. A world where Russia is communist and the US is a decaying empire would have so many competing factions: the USA vs Germany & Rome vs Soviets & Danubia vs France & Austria vs Ottomans vs the UK vs whatever is happening in Asia. I just wish we thought more about creating an original gameplay experience like this with WoA.
Third times the charm? I look forward to seeing a potential revival!
PLEASE do this. (Also add a special path for Greece to gain claims on Rome and reunite Rome.)
Can you contact me for revival of the mod please?
Would you be intersted in joining the revived Caesarreich project ?
@@clibfilm I had been initially, but my work with them ceased after they took the project in their own direction. Wish them the best, no ill will, but there isn’t a place for me there
problem with the name Caesarreich is that it breaks the pattern of regression, both because Caesar is the Italian leader and because kaiserreich and furherreich both have Germany as the "main character" so to speak, the name is after what happened to germany after the war thus in this case it should be something like Caesarimperio
on a side note, whoever makes this needs to make another regression alt history scenario event, I vote Czarreich (Tsarskayaimperiya), a world where Russia won ww1 from the perspective of a Ukrainian from this world
Kanzlerreich technically would work as an alternative name for this scenario.
As a terminal Fuhrerreich addict: I find no flaws in this timeline. All perfectly reasonable!
I'd like to see LoreDad fix the problems he mentioned with FR too if possible like Valkism not making sense outside of Germany.
1:54 "Following this new tradition,"
well that's one way to say it.
This also makes a good idea for a hoi4 mod
Dad, you are easily my favorite alternative history TH-camr, keep up the amazing work! This is a very interesting idea
Guy on the thumbnail is mewing
Bro has no life
@@buni1934LMAO
Actually in the case of Spain in the case of Historic Communities of the country, like Catalonia, Basque Country or Galicia, there were at the time certain movements with an Independentist Agenda. In the case of this 3 from the 1920's forming pacts known as GalEusCat. More over in the case of Galicia (Maybe in Catalonia and Basque Country there is similar examples, but Galicia is my comunnity), there is some politicians with a great fascination over the most Esoteric Galician Past, like Vicente Risco. If this mod idea finally come to some place I will gladly offer my help in work in the Spanish and Portuguese lore
Im loving all this italy stuff lore dad
What's a hoi4 mod without a spanish civil war and a wacky fascism replacer?
Nothing
Millennium Dawn
@@oliverhendrix8176 Millenium dawn has Salafism to represent some hardline ideologies.
And also it’s not an alt history so Spain already sorted out their differences in the 1930’s
@@totallynotatree8718 Yes but it is a mod in which the Spanish Civil is not too relevant
Lore dad uploaded?! This has gotta be good!
6:45 this flag is sick
Wow, that's my map in the background! Forgotten I'd even made it. Yeah, I think that certainly the scenario had some flaws, but could have been an interesting mod nonetheless.
Please keep this type of videos up
I really like you and your content ❤
I would be satisfied enough with a text explain about the furherreich cold war, now a full video about it is a xmaspresent to me
One option for China and Japan that I think could be interesting is Yuan’s Empire of China succeeding and siding with the Central Powers against Japan with Japan being thrown out of the Continent.
Wait, it's still happening?
Stuck in Fuhrerreich I say: *Keep the dream alive, gamers.*
Great video! Could you make a video about Norway/Scandinavia?
BABE WAKE UP NEW LOREDAD VIDEO JUST DROPPED
How does this man’s not have more subs
for a spanish antiquarian nationalist faction you could search information about the palmarian christian church if i remeber right they made Franco a saint and crazy shit like that, maybe a variation of that church a little bit more "radical" could work well.
HE CAME BACK!
WAIT…
AWWW 😢
yes, I would like to see a continuation of fuhererrecih from you.
I dont understand the perspectives thing, its kinda confusing but ill watch the video anyway
It’s really complicated, but I explain it in the video
@@LoreDad ok thanks! I’ll stay tuned
This would be a cool mod. I would totally be down to help with some graphic elements, since that's what I can do.
what kind of app use for create all this good maps
And now I want this mod.
How its pronounced: kaisar: so really its kaisarreich but its spelt ceasarreich
Yes, that’s the funny thing, and why it’s so cursed. Kaiser even means Caesar, and is even closer to the Roman pronunciation as well.
@@LoreDad ikr
@LoreDad so if I say kaisarreich people would think of huey long. Add huey long to any of your things
Tsar means the same
Japan becomes a powerful state who allied with America
I love how tired he sounds near the end, he truly is me.
LORE DADDY!!!
You could make it so that the British use more covert/decision based ways to restore their empire under an antiquarian nationalist idea that involved restoring the British Empire, leading to a climax where Britain starts a pro-Anglosphere revolution, leading to a European Victor (Germano-Roman/Franco-Austrian/Communist) vs. Anglosphere cold war scenario.
I wil upload anthems of countries in Ceasarreich
It just keeps going…
Still wondering when project bourbon is going to happens?
Men we need a mod like this for hoi4
How do you make these maps??
Have the Japanese want to claim the mandate of heaven cause it fits with antiquarian nationalism, and I haven't seen it done yet
And for Spain, I think Antiquarians could work, but you would have to mix it up a bit, maybe some kind of reconquista 2.0/10th Crusade the Carlist would embark to redeem the nation in the eyes of the lord
For Asia I have some ideas
Japan would be allied with Britain as they are both Far right military dictatorships who hate the United States
For China I think it should have Sun Yat Sen live longer and be able to stabalize the republic but it is still split into multiple states who swear loyalty to the Central government which could play as a race for time for Japan as they try to conquer China before the chinese states could fully unify.
If China where to reign victorious over Japan they would become an Anti-Imperialist power who is dead set on vanqishing the Imperialists from Asia which would make a good ally for the United States who have to choose between to either have China or Russis as an ally
Good ideas! Thanks for sharing.
France britain cold war would be fire
Yes
Why does Vorarlberg become part of switzerland, the swiss were opposed to that?
Lore of What if Italy reclaimed Rome in 1937? Ceasarreich LORE momentum 100
You know that remind me of that gofy idea that i have.creator of Kaisereich maming red flod caling it " Red word"
DAD NO WHY?! WHEN WILL YOU COME BACK WITH THE MIIIILK?! STOP MAKING ALTERNATE HISTORY!!
Where are the modders? This must become reality.
Bee dap DAP! 🥰
63 of us have starved to death
Italy doesn't own the entirety of the Aegean? And Cyprus? The Greeks revolt immediately.
sure they can do that
I was thinking anout a series called Ceaserreich, but I would have thought it would have been like the Holy Roman Empire, because of the fact that 'reich' is German
Make vid about crossover world mod
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Great vid! Wanna do a collaboration?
Send me a message on Discord!
Italy already tried to reclaim Rome before ww2 and failed miserably. Because of the Balkan pakt Italy only could make a move on albania.
How far these nesting dolls of alt-history will go, it's anyone guess... well we could take a break from it by making a simple kick.
No, I don't regret anything
Link of the flag?
Wait, i though france was a stratocracy. With nationalist germany and russia working together
what if a United arab state and a Jewish State in Palestine Sinaï we're created after ww1
What if the calippoli campaign succeeded
What if the Portuguese revolution failed and the Portuguese monarchie staid in power
What if Spain joined the central powers
As a Arab (Palestinian-Syrian) Muslim my very honest reaction is
*WHAT THE ACTUAL FU-*
Libya is under house of savoy?
No it would be reconquered by the ottomans
Why not have Ukraine be a socialist peoples republic sympathetic to the Hungarians
That’s a really good idea!
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You sound drunk
Due to being a parent the only time of day I can record my voice is in the middle of the night, usually this leads to me sounding tired (because I am)
Thanks for the feedback
I would love to see more of these not serious alternate histories.
This is good feedback, thanks! Maybe I’ll try relaxing a little more.