Ian Mitchell Innis was with us today in New Zealand and tomorrow so good to finally learn off him. Everything you do I can see how it is working from his original advice. So yes very happy and intense learning.
Farming for the family New Zealand farming community is far ahead of any of these youtubers try finding some locals if you want to learn anything about farming
@@gregjudyregenerativerancher ha ha funny I will tell him. We have you for a webinar later this year I heard hopefully that's true. I could be your biggest fan lol. The amount of passion is contagious not just for the animals and environment but for the farmers livelihoods. Yes the principals do apply in New Zealand as I've already changed on our hill country sheep and beef farm. Cheers Michael Reilly
@@abcd1234jason Yes you can get ideas of anyone. However saying that the locals are advanced well you would have to see to judge for yourself. It's all about taking the information applying to your own farm doesn't matter where the ideas come from. So yes use local wisdom with open eyes to different ways and that can help.
@@abcd1234jason I am a farmer so still need to learn to keep advancing. Doesn't mean everything Greg does applies but if you can take some information principles and apply then what's wrong with that?
Great information. 18 joules?!! Oh my! Didn't know they made 'em that strong. I think we will try spraying foam into 3/4 pvc pipe, cutting slanted notches for the wire, and painting them with Rustoleum. Just can't afford the Timeless posts right now, but they look really nice.
@Eric Pearson Whattt?! Really? Wow, that's a lot of electric energy. I'm new to all this, but I've been surprised a lot lately at how many people raising livestock don't know how important the J output is.
That’s such a good tip about height of the fence. When I was in the Patagonia region of Chile and Argentina, it was absolutely heartbreaking to see so many guanacos who died on fences. They sometimes couldn’t clear them. Really disturbing and it sounds like it was preventable.
@@gregjudyregenerativerancher after getting my self tangled in it while night hunting i will never use that,, when i got free from that wire it looked like i was attacked by mad black berry bushes and thorn trees
It appears Susan’s fence is offset 10’ or more from the tree line, which I assume was done so that she can mow and maintain the outside of the fence. I also see fences built close to tree lines and woods, which would make it very difficult to maintain the outside of the fence. We’re getting ready to build some fence and go back and forth with how far away from the tree line and woods to build our fence. Would you be so kind to share how far off tree lines and woods you recommend building perimeter fences? Thank you in advance for your reply.
So, if that is the 5.5’ post driven 1.5’(as per specification because the timeless have undrilled post back for 6” above grade for strength) the top of the post would be at 4’. Timeless top hole is drilled at 2 inch below top. That would make that line at 46” if you went with the 5’ post and drive it 1.5 the top of the post is at 42” and the line would only be at 40”. Clarifications?
Mr. Judy, in the video you state 200,000 psi wire is more likely to break versus 180,000 psi wire. Did you misspeak? Did you mean to say the 180,000 psi wire is more likely to break? Everything I can find says the 200,000 psi wire has a higher breaking point, is stiffer, more expensive and harder to work with. Thank you for your time.
Do you electrify each line of wire or do you skip a line? I was told (not sure if it's true) that by energizing every other line that you get more voltage. Is that true and what are your thoughts if it is? Thank you sir and I love your videos!
Check out my video tomorrow. I am building fence and using both methods. Either method works fine. Going thru the pre-drilled holes makes a sharper looking fence.
Greg Judy Regenerative Rancher thank you for your reply. I just so happen to be working on a pig and cattle farm now as a farm hand. I previously had zero experience. I’m learning a lot on the farm and learning from you. Really makes me want cattle. It’s hard work though. Your system seems to be less maintenance.
We use a large charger that kills any part of the plant that touches our hot wire fence. Fresh new growth forage with lots of sap in it will hammer your fence if you have a wimpy charger. Stafix or Cyclops are the 2 best manufacturers in electric fence chargers that you can buy.
Hi Greg I want to build a timeless fence at our new farm in Marshville, NC. How far apart are the posts in this video? Did you use a hydraulic fence post driver? What are the corners made of? Wood? Or metal? Thank you so very much for this video. I hope 2 hear from you. Mary
Mary if your building a perimeter fence around your farm with 5 hi-tensile wires, use the five foot post, 1.75” diameter. You can space them 20 feet apart on level ground for a very secure fence. Use a steel post driver to pound them into the ground. Each post has a depth marker on it to help you drive them the right depth. Our corners we use are fiberglass but we are sold out. Use Timeless cornerposts or treated wood posts with insulators.
@@gregjudyregenerativerancher thank you so much for your reply! I want to use coated 12 gauge wire that is highly visible…you aren’t available to help are you ?💕
I worked on an electric fenced thorobred racehorse farm for 5 years and the fence had white posts about 4 feet high and three wires.. It worked great most of the time but taller is better when it comes to horses, especially young tall horses. Always walk a new horse around the perimeter of a pasture before turning them loose the first time. You will avoid having one run through it accidentally
We had 24" of snow last winter, all electric fencing held up just fine. Even our 10" single portable sheep fence performed in the deep snow. Our animals are trained well which certainly helps.
Hi Greg, these timeless fence posts you were talking about are they manufactured in America and when it comes to fence energisers I recall you saying you preferred one in particular is it American owned and manufactured ?? I'M REALLY OVER CHINESE PRODUCTS COMING INTO MY COUNTRY WITH THE TRADE WAR WHICH IS TAKING PLACE, I can't do much about technology such as phones etc but rural products are something I can do something about
Timeless posts are made in Tennessee. Cyclops chargers are made in the USA and can be purchased from Timeless Fence as well. Give them a call and tell them Greg sent you, those guys will treat you right!!
Hi Greg or anyone else who maybe willing to help me I'm looking at fencing roughly 32 acres my box I'm using now is only .5 joules on 7 acres fenced. I recently purchased a new box I'm wondering if it will be hot enough for the 32 acres total it's a 5.6 joule Gallagher.
@@edwinthomas8631 The Stafix charger and polybraid is available from Powerflex Fence Company. Make sure you get the polybraid called "MIxed Metal". It comes in in rolls of 1320'. It has 6 steel filaments and 3 copper filaments, best braid there is on the market. We have this same polybraid in use over 15 years old and still looks new!!
Interesting fencing material! I really like the idea of repurposed plastic, I bet they last a long time. Is the corner post/strainer the opposite for this material? The reason I ask is that with wood posts etc. it is the opposite and this is the first time I've seen it done like that, your corner strainer wire is pulling on the top of the corner post and therefor pulling in on the corner, the fence also pulls on the corner. You need to pull on the bottom of the corner post in order for the H bar to push the corner post outwards to keep tension on the wire. Or am I missing something here?
@@lukeryuzaki2328 I too saw it and came looking for a comment where I saw Brett’s. What you’ll generally find is that Greg chooses rather expensive options for accomplishing rather cheap tasks, but it is rare to find something like that outright wrong. Sharp eye you have.
I’m not sure what you guys are even talking about. If you build a corner, the corner is always your anchor wire on the bottom opposite the direction you are pulling. The corner your talking about was possibly built by the previous landowner. Yes, I use the expensive option every time, thats why we have 19 farms today, good luck with that.
That type of electric fence will not electrocute a small animal. They put out a high voltage at very short intervals, with very low amperage. Who told you they would kill a deer??? That's absurd. They also wouldn't slow down a poacher, if they had half a brain. They do perform their intended job well though!
Or make them too tame either. Tame cows are always nudging you and generally getting in the way when you are feeding or herding them. A friendly nudge from a tame cow can knock you down. My brother in law called tame cows pests as well.
Greg Judy Regenerative Rancher,I hope that your inspiration will lead me to my aspirations, (for now i live in the NYC concrete jungle) my question was more of a statement. (That I am keeping up) I completely get that every policy has an exception!
I like seeing you helping others and I like seeing how other people do things ... and I love seeing beautiful, tame Jerseys ......
I would like to see more of what you do with your pigs like setting up and the whole process. Love your videos and always learn something new
My son was worried about deer and the electric fence I will have him watch this.
Fence looks really good 👍 and the two heifers look fantastic 👍 👍
Ian Mitchell Innis was with us today in New Zealand and tomorrow so good to finally learn off him. Everything you do I can see how it is working from his original advice. So yes very happy and intense learning.
Farming for the family New Zealand farming community is far ahead of any of these youtubers try finding some locals if you want to learn anything about farming
Tell Ian that Greg said hi from cold snowy Missouri! Ian detests cold weather.
@@gregjudyregenerativerancher ha ha funny I will tell him. We have you for a webinar later this year I heard hopefully that's true. I could be your biggest fan lol. The amount of passion is contagious not just for the animals and environment but for the farmers livelihoods. Yes the principals do apply in New Zealand as I've already changed on our hill country sheep and beef farm.
Cheers
Michael Reilly
@@abcd1234jason Yes you can get ideas of anyone. However saying that the locals are advanced well you would have to see to judge for yourself. It's all about taking the information applying to your own farm doesn't matter where the ideas come from. So yes use local wisdom with open eyes to different ways and that can help.
@@abcd1234jason I am a farmer so still need to learn to keep advancing. Doesn't mean everything Greg does applies but if you can take some information principles and apply then what's wrong with that?
Thanks for sharing how you build fences!
Greg great fence information.
Hey Greg can you share some videos on how your charging stations are placed and hooked with power and by battery/solar
Precious 💕. We were given an almost white yellow lab with that name. Great dog for us.
Great information. 18 joules?!! Oh my! Didn't know they made 'em that strong. I think we will try spraying foam into 3/4 pvc pipe, cutting slanted notches for the wire, and painting them with Rustoleum. Just can't afford the Timeless posts right now, but they look really nice.
@Eric Pearson Whattt?! Really? Wow, that's a lot of electric energy. I'm new to all this, but I've been surprised a lot lately at how many people raising livestock don't know how important the J output is.
how far apart did you place her fence posts. Greg.
That’s such a good tip about height of the fence. When I was in the Patagonia region of Chile and Argentina, it was absolutely heartbreaking to see so many guanacos who died on fences. They sometimes couldn’t clear them. Really disturbing and it sounds like it was preventable.
Great wisdom, absolute hero Mr Judy sir haha!
Got a video that goes over building one of these fences for a complete beginner?
love that fence!! nothing like a well built fence!! it looks like it was put up a lot faster then barbed wire
No comparison, never go back to barbwire
@@gregjudyregenerativerancher after getting my self tangled in it while night hunting i will never use that,, when i got free from that wire it looked like i was attacked by mad black berry bushes and thorn trees
@@yoopermann7942 oh my !
Does Greg Judy have a discount code for his viewers for these??
Thanks for the info. Which way should I face my timeless post.
It appears Susan’s fence is offset 10’ or more from the tree line, which I assume was done so that she can mow and maintain the outside of the fence. I also see fences built close to tree lines and woods, which would make it very difficult to maintain the outside of the fence. We’re getting ready to build some fence and go back and forth with how far away from the tree line and woods to build our fence. Would you be so kind to share how far off tree lines and woods you recommend building perimeter fences? Thank you in advance for your reply.
We build all of our fence on our property line.
What’s Greg’s current favorite method for corner posts? I think this method is outdated.
So, if that is the 5.5’ post driven 1.5’(as per specification because the timeless have undrilled post back for 6” above grade for strength) the top of the post would be at 4’. Timeless top hole is drilled at 2 inch below top. That would make that line at 46” if you went with the 5’ post and drive it 1.5 the top of the post is at 42” and the line would only be at 40”. Clarifications?
Mr. Judy, in the video you state 200,000 psi wire is more likely to break versus 180,000 psi wire. Did you misspeak? Did you mean to say the 180,000 psi wire is more likely to break? Everything I can find says the 200,000 psi wire has a higher breaking point, is stiffer, more expensive and harder to work with. Thank you for your time.
He did not misspeak. Higher tensile strength doesn’t always mean stronger in general. 200kpsi is more brittle and less elastic than 180kpsi.
What is the corner fence made of?
I'm sure you said it in one of your videos but what brand of wire do you use?
Would this fence keep baby lambs in? Or, what type of fencing would you recommend for keeping baby lambs in? Thank you in advance, Greg.
As always, I'm loving your videos🐑🐑🐑🐮🐮🐮
Do you electrify each line of wire or do you skip a line? I was told (not sure if it's true) that by energizing every other line that you get more voltage. Is that true and what are your thoughts if it is?
Thank you sir and I love your videos!
Alternating them works good
Those 6 dislikes are guys with fields that look drylots
Should you put a warning sign for people that doesn’t know that it’s a hot wire?
The warning is when you touch it. You only do it once.
do you recommend running the wire through the pre-drilled holes in the post, or attaching the wire on the outside of the post with some flexible wire?
Check out my video tomorrow. I am building fence and using both methods. Either method works fine. Going thru the pre-drilled holes makes a sharper looking fence.
Greg, where can I find the 3/4" or 1" solid poles you drill out an use for your hi Tensile fence
You sell those fiberglass corners? I can’t find that size anywhere...
We sell them at our farm
When finding land to lease and you’re thinking about your perimeter fence; are you considering the maintenance for weed whacking and chainsaw work?
We only brush whack every 3 years. Get a strong charger and never shut it off
Greg Judy Regenerative Rancher thank you for your reply. I just so happen to be working on a pig and cattle farm now as a farm hand. I previously had zero experience. I’m learning a lot on the farm and learning from you. Really makes me want cattle. It’s hard work though. Your system seems to be less maintenance.
Will you have trouble with grass shorting out the fence?
We use a large charger that kills any part of the plant that touches our hot wire fence. Fresh new growth forage with lots of sap in it will hammer your fence if you have a wimpy charger. Stafix or Cyclops are the 2 best manufacturers in electric fence chargers that you can buy.
@@gregjudyregenerativerancher thanks for taking the time to reply
Hi Greg: is 16" depth on the tpost enough over time? should they be long enough to bury them below frost line? thanks!
What length are the timeless posts?
5-1/2’ long
Hi Greg
I want to build a timeless fence at our new farm in Marshville, NC. How far apart are the posts in this video? Did you use a hydraulic fence post driver? What are the corners made of? Wood? Or metal?
Thank you so very much for this video. I hope 2 hear from you.
Mary
Mary if your building a perimeter fence around your farm with 5 hi-tensile wires, use the five foot post, 1.75” diameter. You can space them 20 feet apart on level ground for a very secure fence.
Use a steel post driver to pound them into the ground. Each post has a depth marker on it to help you drive them the right depth. Our corners we use are fiberglass but we are sold out. Use Timeless cornerposts or treated wood posts with insulators.
@@gregjudyregenerativerancher thank you so much for your reply! I want to use coated 12 gauge wire that is highly visible…you aren’t available to help are you ?💕
What is the distance between posts?
20-30 feet depending on the terrain, how flat it is.
What is the diameter of your corner post? Are those the ones you sell?
Thanks!
2.5" diameter, yes we sell these, but do not ship them, to costly to ship.
Excellent
What material is the corner made from?
fiberglass and epoxy resin
Thanks Greg... would you recommend this fence for horses?
I worked on an electric fenced thorobred racehorse farm for 5 years and the fence had white posts about 4 feet high and three wires.. It worked great most of the time but taller is better when it comes to horses, especially young tall horses. Always walk a new horse around the perimeter of a pasture before turning them loose the first time. You will avoid having one run through it accidentally
Looks like a simple good fence to keep animals in BUT we have wild hogs we need to keep out. Not sure how effective this type of fence will be.
I like those
Are the corner posts PVC pipe? If so, how is it kept from bending or moving around.
The corner posts are fiberglass posts
What brand of fence charger do you recommend ?
Stafix or Cyclops
Are these T-posts the 1.75" or the 2.125"?
1.75”
Thanks Greg!
Greg, please tell us about how these electric fencing options work in areas with snowy winters.
We had 24" of snow last winter, all electric fencing held up just fine. Even our 10" single portable sheep fence performed in the deep snow. Our animals are trained well which certainly helps.
Hi Greg, these timeless fence posts you were talking about are they manufactured in America and when it comes to fence energisers I recall you saying you preferred one in particular is it American owned and manufactured ?? I'M REALLY OVER CHINESE PRODUCTS COMING INTO MY COUNTRY WITH THE TRADE WAR WHICH IS TAKING PLACE,
I can't do much about technology such as phones etc but rural products are something I can do something about
Timeless posts are made in Tennessee. Cyclops chargers are made in the USA and can be purchased from Timeless Fence as well. Give them a call and tell them Greg sent you, those guys will treat you right!!
Aww Gregs gotta pet cow. :)
How much would 4300 feet of this fence cost?
Call Timeless Fence, they can give you an estimate.
Hi Greg or anyone else who maybe willing to help me I'm looking at fencing roughly 32 acres my box I'm using now is only .5 joules on 7 acres fenced. I recently purchased a new box I'm wondering if it will be hot enough for the 32 acres total it's a 5.6 joule Gallagher.
Are you corner posts locust posts
Those are the fiberglass cornerposts that we sell.
I can’t wait for grazing school Greg!
That class is well worth it. I went to the one in Albany and he gives great detail about fence strategy during the class. Enjoy
Considering a switch from PasturePro to Timeless on rented acreages. Is it possible to drive corner posts without a machine? Sold the tractor.
Yes we hand drive all of our corners with a 40 lb double handed 2 man driver.
Where/how can I get that stafix and wire(brade)--tks
@@edwinthomas8631 The Stafix charger and polybraid is available from Powerflex Fence Company. Make sure you get the polybraid called "MIxed Metal". It comes in in rolls of 1320'. It has 6 steel filaments and 3 copper filaments, best braid there is on the market. We have this same polybraid in use over 15 years old and still looks new!!
@@gregjudyregenerativerancher their polybraid is made in India
Interesting fencing material! I really like the idea of repurposed plastic, I bet they last a long time. Is the corner post/strainer the opposite for this material? The reason I ask is that with wood posts etc. it is the opposite and this is the first time I've seen it done like that, your corner strainer wire is pulling on the top of the corner post and therefor pulling in on the corner, the fence also pulls on the corner. You need to pull on the bottom of the corner post in order for the H bar to push the corner post outwards to keep tension on the wire. Or am I missing something here?
You’re not missing anything. It was done incorrectly.
@@bronzearmy2645 yeah.I found that part confusing. Glad somebody else with more experience spotting it and clarifying for beginner like me
@@lukeryuzaki2328 I too saw it and came looking for a comment where I saw Brett’s. What you’ll generally find is that Greg chooses rather expensive options for accomplishing rather cheap tasks, but it is rare to find something like that outright wrong. Sharp eye you have.
I’m not sure what you guys are even talking about. If you build a corner, the corner is always your anchor wire on the bottom opposite the direction you are pulling.
The corner your talking about was possibly built by the previous landowner. Yes, I use the expensive option every time, thats why we have 19 farms today, good luck with that.
That type of electric fence will not electrocute a small animal. They put out a high voltage at very short intervals, with very low amperage. Who told you they would kill a deer??? That's absurd. They also wouldn't slow down a poacher, if they had half a brain. They do perform their intended job well though!
Don't name your cows?
Or make them too tame either. Tame cows are always nudging you and generally getting in the way when you are feeding or herding them. A friendly nudge from a tame cow can knock you down. My brother in law called tame cows pests as well.
Bottle calf was raised by my interns daughter. Your right, we don't name them, makes them to hard to get rid of or eat later on.
Greg Judy Regenerative Rancher,I hope that your inspiration will lead me to my aspirations, (for now i live in the NYC concrete jungle) my question was more of a statement. (That I am keeping up) I completely get that every policy has an exception!
Goats need 48" or you will regret it.
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What is the distance between posts?
20' normally