I bought a new 54 inch Toro Titan with in 3 years I had to replace ever bearing in the deck the mower was $4200.00 new but the dealer warranty covered the cost of the repair. I had a Murray mower with a briggs and Stratton engine I gave $1300.00 for it at K mart I had it over 13 years and cut one acre never had a problem with it other than replacing a belt and bought one battery. I could have bought 3 Murray mowers for what I gave for the Toro.
Nice job. You really can jack up the mower from under the deck. Just raise it and lock all the way at the top position, jack it up, and out a jack stand or two underneath the rim of the deck just in case.
What are the bearing part numbers on the bag? That would be nice if I could see that. My dealer apparently is much more of a rule follower than yours. He says they have to do the warranty work.
@@darynbean4105 I cannot find that number, but Toro has a spacer that looks the same - part number 145-3660. Did you by chance type in the incorrect number or are you sure it is 146-3660? Thanks...
I would strongly suggest you would put a grease fitting on there. On both bearings on the inner side remove the seal, of the sealed bearings. Then on the opposite side I would drill a small wheat hole tap it out to put a screw in, and do regular greasing of the bearings. It failed because the grease and the bearing was weak, insufficient. Anywhere there's a bearing for the pulley's etc you should do this.
A bearing did not fail - Toro installed a bearing with a bushing washer that was too short in height - creating vertical slop about 3mm. When they realized this they immediately put out a document and a kit to correct this issue.
@@cuskit Can you get me that document number? My servicing dealer (authorized Toro dealer) is wanting to charge me 325 to do what should be warranty work.
Thanks for your comments! About the ROPS bar; I was wrong (I think) about the bolt and pin placement. I think it was correct all along. I looked in the Toro site at the official images of this machine and they are identical to mine. I don’t think it’s a very good design as it seems the pin just rides on the back of the lower bar and can therefore dent and scratch and rattle potentially. That being said, I don’t plan on having it down much. I did end up doing both left and right casters. The right did have some play in it although it was far less than that left side. Both are now swapped and I don’t feel any play at all thought I haven’t yet mowed after the repair. On the dealer lot the hour meter said 1.8 hours and I asked intently about that but was told that it must’ve just been from moving it around and such. Seems odd to me but I checked everything for any sign of grass and there was none. I even looked up under the deck and everything was new. Dealer stated that the machine has never seen grass. I will have an update video after I get some seat time but man what a nice machine so far.
@@GeneralExpert My timer had 0.03 hours on it when I picked up mine. They must have been doing a lot of driving around the lot, perhaps potential buyers trying it out many times before you purchased it. No matter - you have 1,250 hours/4 years warranty, no hour limit the first 2 years so you're good. They ride so nice maybe the employees rode it down the street every day to get their coffee! ;-) I agree - nice machines!
Can you give me the parts numbers for those packages you got to fix the front caster wheel clunking noise? My brand new 4000 Z has the exact same problem - I used my Z to cut my lawn for the first time yesterday and that clunking noise is driving me crazy! I called my dealer - he stated he was unaware of this issue, but if I could give him the part numbers he'd get them for me. Your video shows the Part Number for the bag with the spacers, but I cannot see the number for the bag with the bearings. Thanks, mike
Do you happen to have the part number for bearing and spacer? Dealer claiming they don’t know about this but both my dads and my titan max have the same issue at 14 hours and 8 hours
Can you provide me with the document number they sent you along with the kit? My dealer is claiming no knowledge of any issues and wants to charge to fix it.
Now you need to get a trailer to haul it. If you don't mind me asking what the price was of your machine, I am looking to purchase the same machine. :)
Happen to have a picture of the bulletin? Dealer claims no knowledge and both my dads mower and mine have this issue under 15 hours. Titan max for both
Me, I would have added grease zerks while I had the assembly apart, and do the other side as well, and remove, on the bearing, after zerk install remove the top bearing the bottom bearing cover, and on the bottom the top bearing cover, so the grease you add with the new grease zerks, can enter the bearing, but with the price you paid the dealer should of come to you to install.
Those are sealed bearing with lifetime lube, only way adding grease fitting will help is if the seals are removed from the permanently lubricated bearings
Most of the Toros ride on mowers have grease point in that jockey wheel tube plus ,heavy duty spring inside ,this is cheap and poor design .That heavy spring will take any up and down free play away ,so those spring inside the tube work as a shock absorbers and allowing jockey wheels to bounce on uneven surface .
I have the same problem with my mower. I’m getting rid of my 4000 for a 6000 in 2 weeks. Can’t wait lol
I bought a new 54 inch Toro Titan with in 3 years I had to replace ever bearing in the deck the mower was $4200.00 new but the dealer warranty covered the cost of the repair. I had a Murray mower with a briggs and Stratton engine I gave $1300.00 for it at K mart I had it over 13 years and cut one acre never had a problem with it other than replacing a belt and bought one battery. I could have bought 3 Murray mowers for what I gave for the Toro.
Bullshit!
Nice job. You really can jack up the mower from under the deck. Just raise it and lock all the way at the top position, jack it up, and out a jack stand or two underneath the rim of the deck just in case.
For a new mower under warranty. The dealer should have picked it up, repaired it, and returned it to your home.
They'll pick it up for a fee.
Same problem with my new 4000 series. Thanks for sharing.
What are the bearing part numbers on the bag? That would be nice if I could see that. My dealer apparently is much more of a rule follower than yours. He says they have to do the warranty work.
146-3660 for the spacer
@@darynbean4105 I cannot find that number, but Toro has a spacer that looks the same - part number 145-3660. Did you by chance type in the incorrect number or are you sure it is 146-3660? Thanks...
Good job Bud, Thanks! Funny I'm having mine delivered on Friday, I I'll be looking out for that issue during my first mow.
typically that tube is packed with grease on most mowers. I'd be worried about that bearing wearing out rather quickly with no grease
Getting my 50 inch time cutter tomorrow. Will look for this problem.
I'm noticing it on mine from day1. Will lift and check. Only 10 hrs. or less on it.
I would strongly suggest you would put a grease fitting on there. On both bearings on the inner side remove the seal, of the sealed bearings. Then on the opposite side I would drill a small wheat hole tap it out to put a screw in, and do regular greasing of the bearings. It failed because the grease and the bearing was weak, insufficient. Anywhere there's a bearing for the pulley's etc you should do this.
You think they would have done this crap for the money there getting cheaper by the day and I’m not talking cost
A bearing did not fail - Toro installed a bearing with a bushing washer that was too short in height - creating vertical slop about 3mm. When they realized this they immediately put out a document and a kit to correct this issue.
@@cuskit Can you get me that document number? My servicing dealer (authorized Toro dealer) is wanting to charge me 325 to do what should be warranty work.
Thank you for this. I literally just mowed 3 times and the same exact castor came off on its own. There is obviously too much play in that housing.
Wow, was your machine brand new?
I have the same thing happening. How'd you get the cap off the top ?
Question, how did you get the top cap off? secondly I would of given the side of the bearing casing a light coat of grease to help it slide down!
If you have trouble getting the top cap out I would say you are really in trouble boy better get a desk job and get your oil changed at Jiffy Lube LOL
@@perryschaad8766some people like me are new to this. I just bought mine and I’m trying to learn how to take care of it.
Thanks for this. I have the same mower. I will be checking for this. Are any other issues that have come your way ? BTW I love this mower.
Hi brilliant explanations straight to job, lv it.. I have a Zmaster 6000 new but iv just trapped the deck up...can ya help?
Awesome! Can I ask why you didn't swap out the right bearing parts? Did they only have issues with the left fronts?
Thanks for your comments! About the ROPS bar; I was wrong (I think) about the bolt and pin placement. I think it was correct all along. I looked in the Toro site at the official images of this machine and they are identical to mine. I don’t think it’s a very good design as it seems the pin just rides on the back of the lower bar and can therefore dent and scratch and rattle potentially. That being said, I don’t plan on having it down much.
I did end up doing both left and right casters. The right did have some play in it although it was far less than that left side. Both are now swapped and I don’t feel any play at all thought I haven’t yet mowed after the repair.
On the dealer lot the hour meter said 1.8 hours and I asked intently about that but was told that it must’ve just been from moving it around and such. Seems odd to me but I checked everything for any sign of grass and there was none. I even looked up under the deck and everything was new. Dealer stated that the machine has never seen grass.
I will have an update video after I get some seat time but man what a nice machine so far.
@@GeneralExpert My timer had 0.03 hours on it when I picked up mine. They must have been doing a lot of driving around the lot, perhaps potential buyers trying it out many times before you purchased it. No matter - you have 1,250 hours/4 years warranty, no hour limit the first 2 years so you're good. They ride so nice maybe the employees rode it down the street every day to get their coffee! ;-) I agree - nice machines!
Can you give me the parts numbers for those packages you got to fix the front caster wheel clunking noise? My brand new 4000 Z has the exact same problem - I used my Z to cut my lawn for the first time yesterday and that clunking noise is driving me crazy! I called my dealer - he stated he was unaware of this issue, but if I could give him the part numbers he'd get them for me. Your video shows the Part Number for the bag with the spacers, but I cannot see the number for the bag with the bearings. Thanks, mike
@@cuskit.03 hours is only 1.8 minutes
@@timmyers3428 Yes, which is about all it took for the shop to drive it onto my trailer. Your point?
Do you happen to have the part number for bearing and spacer? Dealer claiming they don’t know about this but both my dads and my titan max have the same issue at 14 hours and 8 hours
Did you ever find part numbers for the spacer or kit?
Use the extender when tapping the bearing back in place. That ensures pressure is being transmitted evenly
How did you remove the cap?
just picked mine up a couple of hours ago...... thanks for your post I will check mine
That front is built like a beast
My Bobcat just uses bushings
This seems to be a common problem with this mower based on other videos I've watched on TH-cam.
Can you provide me with the document number they sent you along with the kit? My dealer is claiming no knowledge of any issues and wants to charge to fix it.
How do you remove the dust cap from the top?
Good job. Easy fix, they should all be that easy.
How do I remove the top cap easily
That is very good that they gave you the parts and the other side
hello, does this model have greasing points?
Now you need to get a trailer to haul it. If you don't mind me asking what the price was of your machine, I am looking to purchase the same machine. :)
There was a factory bulletin on it. Dealer repaired mine. It’s a warranty item from toro.
Happen to have a picture of the bulletin? Dealer claims no knowledge and both my dads mower and mine have this issue under 15 hours. Titan max for both
Yes please. Picture of the bulletin?
@@BrandonWilliams-cx4iy Exactly. Inquiring minds want to know.
This happened with my 50 inch (75750) timecutter. Was fixed @ dealer under warranty.More reason to buy from dealer!
Same problem here in Australia. Toro must have been aware of it. The question than remains why did they let these machines go in the first place
You have the same issue? At least it was an easy fix! Hardest part was getting that cap off 🤷♂️
Me, I would have added grease zerks while I had the assembly apart, and do the other side as well, and remove, on the bearing, after zerk install remove the top bearing the bottom bearing cover, and on the bottom the top bearing cover, so the grease you add with the new grease zerks, can enter the bearing, but with the price you paid the dealer should of come to you to install.
Those are sealed bearing with lifetime lube, only way adding grease fitting will help is if the seals are removed from the permanently lubricated bearings
Most of the Toros ride on mowers have grease point in that jockey wheel tube plus ,heavy duty spring inside ,this is cheap and poor design .That heavy spring will take any up and down free play away ,so those spring inside the tube work as a shock absorbers and allowing jockey wheels to bounce on uneven surface .
Next time put the Bearing in the freezer for a couple hours and watch how much easier it slides into that sleeve !!!
Didn't see this issue on my unit, have exactly the same machine.
Put a socket on the extension to drive out the bearing.
Nice Toro did that for you 👍
Hi, how can we contact you for business inquiry?
Great job!! Thanks. :)
This is nothing wait until I do a hydro change and add the new fluid
Been there a few weeks ago on my 4000 🙄 but all and all wasn’t that bad.
I hate that sealed bearing design. Give me taper bearings and a grease fitting thank you.
They have a fix for it already
same thing on mine
I really wanted to see you take the cap on and off . 😢
Seriously wow that's the easiest part
Doing repairs wearing flipflops is not very smart!
Two problems one the crap in the housing being new and having to fix the tractor yourself I don’t work for free
Should have bought a Scag TT2