I love this perspective on narcissism. From what I gathered from this video is narcissism is a result of a person who feels deep pain and who hasn't learned the skills to communicate their needs effectively and turn to manipulative tactics. They tend to ruin other people’s lives by trying to alleviate their pain. I love the way Ernst describes the how and why of this behavior from an astrological perspective. As a society, I feel we have well-defined descriptions of narcissistic behavior but many of us judge narcissists without deeply understanding how they developed those traits in the first place.
My favorite astrologer!!! My mother has mercury retrograde and a virgo moon(also with no support kemdrum dosha). She has narcissistic tendencies so much so she couldn't hold any relationship. She was the first daughter of 5 children, and the only girl, she wanted to be loved like the brothers, and always said she knew my grandmother wanted boys and she felt neglected. She always wanted to be a child of 3 years old, because in her memory that is when she had the true love from her mother, before the first brother was born. Because of her chart, she is not able to help herself. My moon in pisces clashes so much with her patterns. She doesn't explain herself, she is not in sync with others, nor with her own feelings, which makes it impossible for me to accept. It's soooo frustrating
I see you, Ernst!!! This was wonderful, brother! I actually wanted to learn a lot about this topic and was just thinking about it recently! I'm glad to be the first to show some love!
My mother has all 3 in her chart. Leo ascendant with Saturn n mars in the 4th house, Jupiter in 3rd with Rahu, and a shamed mercury in the 5th house with Sun. Moon in 10th house aspected by Sa and Ma. No functioning yogakaraka n all benefics starved. Everything you said is a 100% accurate.
My Mercury is exalted in the 11th house. NPD and BPD come from afflictions to the sun (NPD) and the moon (BPD). Pluto square Moon, Sun square Moon, Neptune square Moon, Saturn square sun and moon. Western planets and aspects describe this better than Indian aspects
Very true. Sun, mars, mercury in Virgo 6th house and Saturn is conjunct the moon of one of my relatives. She is extremely narcissistic and hell on wheels.
I must say thank you. It was exactly yesterday that i was thinking about who is a narcissistic person; and what if the reason i like helping people is that I am a narcissist? I'm a Leo Asc and Leo Moon. Ma Ju Sa Su in 9th house, Me Ve in 8th. Yes my feeling since early life got hurt by family and also friends until now. I am very sensitive and emotionally damaged. I have never been able to get the acceptance of my mother and my father wasn't present in my whole 24-year life. But after I started learning Jyutish since late 2021, i decided to change my life, to break endless loops and patterns. I have hurt more than 10 times during healing myself. But it worth it. I realized the fact that i must heal myself first to be able to help others. I realized i must love myself to love others as well. Matter of fact, i found out that i am alone in this way and there is nobody out there to help me. So, i stopped being a child and decided to stand out for my rights. The journey has just begun, however, it's getting more easier and sweeter as the time goes on. ❤
I am moon leo ascendent leo too I ask you to fear every full moons and new moons followed by birth day fast every week submit your hunger to any higher power you believe see how you will be invincible to evil n other secrets karmic entanglement and patterns reveal
A Shamed mercury is a Mercury with Saturn or Mars or Sun AND in the 5th house. OR mercury with Rahu or Ketu. But this alone doesn't make someone a narcissist as they need multiple indicators to show those behaviors.
My husband’s mercury is with sun and Saturn in 8th house. Pure narcissist, raised by a toxic mother, damaged relationship with father. Wherever this mama’s boy goes, he destroys everything and creates chaos.
Thank you. Always a pleasure to hear Ernst. Is the purpose of astrology to ‘know yourself ‘ and then refine to the highest octave of your chart or is it to fulfill your Rahu placement and its meaning ?
We gave to explore the rahu house and develop the rahu sign in order to know ourselves completely, until then, we only know half of ourselves. Nodes are the environment. We find out how someone is by observing them in different environments. A person can be wonderful coming over for a party, in the party environment, but at work no one likes them, cause they behave differently at work. In the same way, we have to experience ourselves in both the rahu and ketu environments.
if you kindly show these planet placing in a chart or using a white board and show it would be helpful for beginners to easily understand thanks god bless
I have mercury+rahu in leo 12H... am I narcissistic? :( I'm actually obsessed with identifying narcissism in me, due to narcissistic abuse, but I believe I might be undiagnosed gifted person (neurodivergent). I had selective mutism and huge self-gaslighter
Rahu 7th mahadasha with moon 4th as a dispositor have many indications to narsissistic traits. many similarities: person does not understand he's "too much", instead of giving to spouse - demands, and never satisfied, obsessed, if not controlling, inclibed to adharma, getting a self reflection in others (rahu7 period, narcissism similarities)
For Leo Yogakaraka Mars is exalted in 6th which also is it’s natural domain. I love Ernst, but here I must disagree when he states that Yogakaraka Graha must be in kendra or trikona for it to perform well.
He doesn't have to say that, bc in your case, Mars is Exalted...it's 'proud'/garvita and not in a bad placement. Unless it's hemmed by malefics, bc it's the 4th Lord, , or if Mars was with Saturn or Mercury...or rahu or ketu..or aspected by such. It would also be helped if with Sun or Jupiter. (Not moon bc it's the 12th lord-not an angle or trine) If you have some "bad" and some "good", together, they create the good and maybe not always so great events in life. Lastly, if a planet was shamed or starved- and in parivartina with another, this can act as a "save" at least once in life also.
It performs well as its proud, exalted, but to perform as a yoga karaka it needs to be on an angle or trine or with or in mutual aspect to an angle or trine lord. To be honest with you, between an exalted planet and a raja yoga planet I would prefer the exalted planet because its more helpful for our wellbeing.
Idk somehow I feel like mercury retrograde affected this video because I had such a hard time following the astrology versus how we have control of “trying” or what a “shamed” mercury is 😰 so hard to follow.
On his channel there are plenty of videos. The main difference is that ashamed mercury is directionless, while starved mercury is not working well because it's disturbed by other planets. Let's say you have the car to race, but you are jn the desert (ashamed mercury), or you have the car and you are on race, but you don't have gasoline(starved mercury).
That creates sun starving saturn and saturn starving sun, so there is the foundation for narcissism, i.e. the pain and need, however, one still has to determine if the person is unable to help themselves or not. That is an intense combination for sure and thank you for bringing it up. If the whole of the chart is lending towards a narcissist, sun saturn opposition can create the worst of them.
I have Saturn in scorpio and Sun in Taurus, I am raised by narc parents and brother is also a narc, started astrological search around 12 years back to find out the reason for my family dynamics and today I am watching your video .
@@ErnstWilhelm so let me understand : 1)is the individual in pain? Trauma, early behavior, planetary position? 2)if so, what kind of pain? Does it involves natural benefic planets and personal planets? 3)does this individual can find a way to resolve one's pain? 4)If not, does this individual has a mercury good enough to communicate and look for help from others? 5)if not, does this mercury weakens other planets and create a pattern? I have my mother example I wrote above. Mercury retrograde, Moon in Virgo kendrum dosa. Mind is ruled by a retrograde mercury directionless. There is a pattern because the virgo rulership. she feels scared and in pain, with no support, yet when she tries to ask for support, she is ashamed and blames you first. She doesn't ask what she wants, but she wants you to know 😅. Am I right?
I have 10th lord in the 4th (Saturn in Leo) conjunct Rahu with 4th aspect of Mars. Sun is in 3rd conjunct Jupiter and Mercury. I let my mother move in with me and I been miserable for the last 10 years.
It's highly connected to (the scale) Libra (10), Gemini(7), Cancer(8) and Leo(9) placements, especially if the Rising, Moon, Sun and Mercury (etc.). Covert (freezing cold) narcissism: Rising, Sun, Moon and Mercury (etc.) in Capricorn. Talking about the negative expression of these signs.
Narcissism isn t just due to childhood trauma or else there d be a lot more narcissists in the world! The trauma just triggers the underlying brain condition which is a physical defect in the brain s limbic system. Also this is genetically passed on.
No, its not just due to trauma, as I mentioned, it also requires the absence of functional adult planets. And yes, every bad avastha, indicates a physical lack or overdevelopment of some part of the brain, so we are talking about the same thing here.
Thank you so much for the insightful video♥️ I have my lagna lord VENUS with MERCURY(MY VARGOTTAMA) in pisces in 6th house while SUN in aries in 7th house. Already faced the narcissistic treatment since I already tried to reach out to them but they didn't respond back like you said. Kindly do make videos on CORRUPT POLITICIANS'S BIRTH CHARTS and how they purposely ruin innocent people's lives. Stay blessed💫
I love this perspective on narcissism. From what I gathered from this video is narcissism is a result of a person who feels deep pain and who hasn't learned the skills to communicate their needs effectively and turn to manipulative tactics. They tend to ruin other people’s lives by trying to alleviate their pain. I love the way Ernst describes the how and why of this behavior from an astrological perspective. As a society, I feel we have well-defined descriptions of narcissistic behavior but many of us judge narcissists without deeply understanding how they developed those traits in the first place.
And they won't ever learn the skills either because their brains are different. They are very dangerous people and will ruin any relationship.
They haven't learned how to deal with emotions 😢.....
Ernst is not aging. Something is up lol
True!!! 😅
He must have a prominent Mercury.😅
I learnt a lot from this talk.
Thank you.
Ernst, you are an excellent teacher.
My favorite astrologer!!! My mother has mercury retrograde and a virgo moon(also with no support kemdrum dosha).
She has narcissistic tendencies so much so she couldn't hold any relationship. She was the first daughter of 5 children, and the only girl, she wanted to be loved like the brothers, and always said she knew my grandmother wanted boys and she felt neglected.
She always wanted to be a child of 3 years old, because in her memory that is when she had the true love from her mother, before the first brother was born.
Because of her chart, she is not able to help herself.
My moon in pisces clashes so much with her patterns. She doesn't explain herself, she is not in sync with others, nor with her own feelings, which makes it impossible for me to accept. It's soooo frustrating
Makes you wonder if the person’s soul and karma dictates the birth chart or vice versa.
In what sign does she have mercury retrograde?
We cut the line when the person abuses!! And we cut the line when the person uses other ppl as objects to their means!!
So good to see Ernst back on this channel!! Thank you so much for this session. A very interesting subject! And very much needed at this time.
I see you, Ernst!!! This was wonderful, brother! I actually wanted to learn a lot about this topic and was just thinking about it recently! I'm glad to be the first to show some love!
Love this greater understanding of narcissism that boils it down to its essence.
My mother has all 3 in her chart. Leo ascendant with Saturn n mars in the 4th house, Jupiter in 3rd with Rahu, and a shamed mercury in the 5th house with Sun. Moon in 10th house aspected by Sa and Ma. No functioning yogakaraka n all benefics starved. Everything you said is a 100% accurate.
Thank you so much for this topic. Ernst is amazing
I have Mercury in Ashlesha (conjunct Mars & Ketu) in the 8th house and have always attracted narcissists, including my elder sister.
My Mercury is exalted in the 11th house. NPD and BPD come from afflictions to the sun (NPD) and the moon (BPD). Pluto square Moon, Sun square Moon, Neptune square Moon, Saturn square sun and moon. Western planets and aspects describe this better than Indian aspects
Very true. Sun, mars, mercury in Virgo 6th house and Saturn is conjunct the moon of one of my relatives. She is extremely narcissistic and hell on wheels.
Even in the western astrology with pluto and the mix doesn't explain a narsesist....all depends how a person works with its own energy......
Narsesist can have loads in a 12 H
Or cool trines ext....
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Some profound insights here🙏 Thank you ji.
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Ernst wise as always 🥰
This topic was so deep❤
This was awesome and so informative! May we please have more videos like this on mental health and mental/personality disorders ❤
Thank you for the clear and inspiring talk on your synthesizing what planets may be looked to see a Narcissistic Personality.❤
Very interesting topic. Something never covered, personality disorders.
Excellent. Thank you.
I must say thank you. It was exactly yesterday that i was thinking about who is a narcissistic person; and what if the reason i like helping people is that I am a narcissist?
I'm a Leo Asc and Leo Moon. Ma Ju Sa Su in 9th house, Me Ve in 8th. Yes my feeling since early life got hurt by family and also friends until now. I am very sensitive and emotionally damaged. I have never been able to get the acceptance of my mother and my father wasn't present in my whole 24-year life. But after I started learning Jyutish since late 2021, i decided to change my life, to break endless loops and patterns. I have hurt more than 10 times during healing myself. But it worth it. I realized the fact that i must heal myself first to be able to help others. I realized i must love myself to love others as well. Matter of fact, i found out that i am alone in this way and there is nobody out there to help me. So, i stopped being a child and decided to stand out for my rights. The journey has just begun, however, it's getting more easier and sweeter as the time goes on. ❤
I am moon leo ascendent leo too I ask you to fear every full moons and new moons followed by birth day fast every week submit your hunger to any higher power you believe see how you will be invincible to evil n other secrets karmic entanglement and patterns reveal
In my experience (observation), people who have Sun Rahu conjunction are often true narcissists.
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Mine too
A Shamed mercury is a Mercury with Saturn or Mars or Sun AND in the 5th house. OR mercury with Rahu or Ketu. But this alone doesn't make someone a narcissist as they need multiple indicators to show those behaviors.
Lagna lord mercury conjuct ketu plus sun in scorpio 6th house and aslesha moon atmakaraka huge mother wound and have quiet bpd.
My husband’s mercury is with sun and Saturn in 8th house. Pure narcissist, raised by a toxic mother, damaged relationship with father. Wherever this mama’s boy goes, he destroys everything and creates chaos.
Thank you. Always a pleasure to hear Ernst.
Is the purpose of astrology to ‘know yourself ‘ and then refine to the highest octave of your chart or is it to fulfill your Rahu placement and its meaning ?
great question
I’d say both and more
We gave to explore the rahu house and develop the rahu sign in order to know ourselves completely, until then, we only know half of ourselves. Nodes are the environment. We find out how someone is by observing them in different environments. A person can be wonderful coming over for a party, in the party environment, but at work no one likes them, cause they behave differently at work. In the same way, we have to experience ourselves in both the rahu and ketu environments.
this is so helpful and knowledgeable, thank you so much!
Will you be doing videos on ADD, psychopaths and social paths?
if you kindly show these planet placing in a chart or using a white board and show it would be helpful for beginners to easily understand thanks god bless
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Cant understand plz can anyone write here which planets and which house is indicating narcissist??
I have mercury+rahu in leo 12H... am I narcissistic? :( I'm actually obsessed with identifying narcissism in me, due to narcissistic abuse, but I believe I might be undiagnosed gifted person (neurodivergent).
I had selective mutism and huge self-gaslighter
Not only Indian culture, Italian too
Rahu 7th mahadasha with moon 4th as a dispositor have many indications to narsissistic traits. many similarities: person does not understand he's "too much", instead of giving to spouse - demands, and never satisfied, obsessed, if not controlling, inclibed to adharma, getting a self reflection in others (rahu7 period, narcissism similarities)
Very true. My spouse has rahu and moon in 7th house ( pisces ). Demanding Demanding and never ending affairs and a perpetual liar. True narcissist.
Ashamed, Delighted, Starved, Agitated Mercury = I am confused... Literally....
So if you have saturn moon in the 4th house...........?
very interesting. thank you
Any remedies for shamed mercury in 11th 🥲
Great info!!
I have Saturn in the 4th house. Conjunction moon. I have rahu with mercury and Venus in 2nd house.
Narcissistic disorders - 4th tithi and moon in kritika
Why krittika?
A retrograde saturn in the 4th house with the 11th lord in that house. Could there be a possibility of narcissism??
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For Leo Yogakaraka Mars is exalted in 6th which also is it’s natural domain. I love Ernst, but here I must disagree when he states that Yogakaraka Graha must be in kendra or trikona for it to perform well.
He doesn't have to say that, bc in your case, Mars is Exalted...it's 'proud'/garvita and not in a bad placement. Unless it's hemmed by malefics, bc it's the 4th Lord, , or if Mars was with Saturn or Mercury...or rahu or ketu..or aspected by such. It would also be helped if with Sun or Jupiter. (Not moon bc it's the 12th lord-not an angle or trine) If you have some "bad" and some "good", together, they create the good and maybe not always so great events in life. Lastly, if a planet was shamed or starved- and in parivartina with another, this can act as a "save" at least once in life also.
It performs well as its proud, exalted, but to perform as a yoga karaka it needs to be on an angle or trine or with or in mutual aspect to an angle or trine lord. To be honest with you, between an exalted planet and a raja yoga planet I would prefer the exalted planet because its more helpful for our wellbeing.
Idk somehow I feel like mercury retrograde affected this video because I had such a hard time following the astrology versus how we have control of “trying” or what a “shamed” mercury is 😰 so hard to follow.
I was just thinking abt Ernst. Hey buddy 👋🏾
I can not understand the shame and starved planet. Please explain because I think that the girl did not undertad too. 😊
On his channel there are plenty of videos. The main difference is that ashamed mercury is directionless, while starved mercury is not working well because it's disturbed by other planets.
Let's say you have the car to race, but you are jn the desert (ashamed mercury), or you have the car and you are on race, but you don't have gasoline(starved mercury).
Matches with me
What about Sun Saturn opposition? I thought you would have talked about that.
That creates sun starving saturn and saturn starving sun, so there is the foundation for narcissism, i.e. the pain and need, however, one still has to determine if the person is unable to help themselves or not. That is an intense combination for sure and thank you for bringing it up. If the whole of the chart is lending towards a narcissist, sun saturn opposition can create the worst of them.
I have Saturn in scorpio and Sun in Taurus, I am raised by narc parents and brother is also a narc, started astrological search around 12 years back to find out the reason for my family dynamics and today I am watching your video .
@@ErnstWilhelm so let me understand : 1)is the individual in pain? Trauma, early behavior, planetary position? 2)if so, what kind of pain? Does it involves natural benefic planets and personal planets?
3)does this individual can find a way to resolve one's pain?
4)If not, does this individual has a mercury good enough to communicate and look for help from others?
5)if not, does this mercury weakens other planets and create a pattern?
I have my mother example I wrote above.
Mercury retrograde, Moon in Virgo kendrum dosa.
Mind is ruled by a retrograde mercury directionless.
There is a pattern because the virgo rulership. she feels scared and in pain, with no support, yet when she tries to ask for support, she is ashamed and blames you first. She doesn't ask what she wants, but she wants you to know 😅. Am I right?
I have 10th lord in the 4th (Saturn in Leo) conjunct Rahu with 4th aspect of Mars. Sun is in 3rd conjunct Jupiter and Mercury. I let my mother move in with me and I been miserable for the last 10 years.
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It's highly connected to (the scale) Libra (10), Gemini(7), Cancer(8) and Leo(9) placements, especially if the Rising, Moon, Sun and Mercury (etc.).
Covert (freezing cold) narcissism: Rising, Sun, Moon and Mercury (etc.) in Capricorn.
Talking about the negative expression of these signs.
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Narcissism isn t just due to childhood trauma or else there d be a lot more narcissists in the world! The trauma just triggers the underlying brain condition which is a physical defect in the brain s limbic system. Also this is genetically passed on.
No, its not just due to trauma, as I mentioned, it also requires the absence of functional adult planets. And yes, every bad avastha, indicates a physical lack or overdevelopment of some part of the brain, so we are talking about the same thing here.
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Thank you so much for the insightful video♥️
I have my lagna lord VENUS with MERCURY(MY VARGOTTAMA) in pisces in 6th house while SUN in aries in 7th house.
Already faced the narcissistic treatment since I already tried to reach out to them but they didn't respond back like you said.
Kindly do make videos on CORRUPT POLITICIANS'S BIRTH CHARTS and how they purposely ruin innocent people's lives.
Stay blessed💫
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Biggest narcissist Trump...just study his chart....😊