Thank you for striking home the importance of perfecting Forge welding it's going to take me a lifetime to catch up with all these ideas but I'm cool with that
And thank you sir for taking the time to watch them! Without my subscribers this knowledge would be lost in an endless tide pod challenges and slime videos out there on the internet lol. Thank you for your support by Watching God bless!
I'm loving these forge welding tutorials you have been putting out recently. And, the real-time format is really great! Also leaving in the failed attempts (with explanation) is a great part of the learning process, which reminds me of a saying . " The difference between a master and a beginner is that the master has failed more times than the beginner has ever tried ". I always try to keep this in mind when learning anything new and it really helps me to see failures as a crucial part of the learning process. All in all, I would say you have the whole forge welding process down to a T ;) ✌
Oh my I'm very very late. Guess I thought I'd already been to this class. Yup gota give you 100 on the blackboard " I wont skip Mr. Roy classes any more I promise " ...now 99 more Crawford. Lol
In my 18+ yrs of hobby smithing, I've only nailed 2 forge welds, and both were in public! 1st one was a 4" dia saddle ring for a stirrup, 2nd was a fold over in 5/16" x 1/4" to build mass for a tab to tie broom straw on a fireplace broom, which was then flattened to 3/4" wide x 1" long tab with 2 punched holes so the straw could be tied on later. Also welding in public is a NO-NO! flying debri could hit the public!
Thank you very much I see my problem is, I understand it's the shit's but it is much better to see you do have some welding trouble also. Be blessed and enjoy your day buddy.
Yep the main portion of a lot of people's Forge welding problems come from their timing. As you can see in this video getting distracted by other thoughts and not focusing on the weld itself led to its demise LOL. Thank you for taking the time to watch today God bless
Can you use the heat and hammer method with a torch or does that allow too much oxidation into the weld surface> I am looking to try when we get more gas. and you say you make it look easy, I dont think that so as it still took you 3 tries to get the weld to stick which shows the difficulty, and then there is setting the weld that takes a long time, as opposed to taking 2 minutes grinding and 20 seconds to use a welder as it were. but I still plan to try.
I have only had one successful forge weld so am by no means an expert, but this is a drop tong weld and you look for a place to put the tongs down. The tongs wont be hurt if you drop them and will save you part of a second.
Technically yes you are correct I am dropping the tongs in this weld but that is not the name of this particular Forge weld. The name stems from what its shape is which is a tee. This is a name that was given it from antiquity. When people refer to a drop the tongs weld they are referring to the action of dropping your tongs not the particular weld at hand. The main types of welds are (L, T, Glut, Butt, Lap, Half Lap, Blind, Collar, Jump, faggott, and Cleft weld more commonly known as birds mouth weld... some of these welds but not all require you to drop your tongues when making and joining the two pieces of Steel. Others however will require riveting, pinning, wrapping or stacking. Hope this information helps you in continuing your love for this great craft God bless you and have a great day :-)
I've had no success forge welding , yet. I see now that speed is really a factor and you have to be fully set up when you take the 2 bars out of the fire. You mentioned the anvil sucking the heat out really fast. Would a piece of 1/2" x 4" x 6" steel plate heated up reasonably hot and placed on the anvil just a minute or two, to preheat the anvil, help or cause damage to the anvil prior to attempting the weld? I have a smaller Farrier's 75lb anvil. Thanks. Cheers.
In your case heating of the Anvil a little bit could be beneficial although I see preheating anvils as a complete waste of time. The reason for this opinion of mine comes from the fact that I work all day at the Anvil and the surface on a 465 lb anvil attached to a 350 lb steel base barely climbs above Body temp after an entire day of forging.. usually your weld will not be on the Anvil face for more than a half a second before you start to hammer on it. My main point in mentioning this was to support the fact that speed is the most important thing in the Forge welding process. The larger the stock the longer you have to make the weld but if you leave that stock on the Anvil it will chill whatever is on bottom to a point that it will no longer be at a welding state if left there to long.. thank you for taking the time to watch this video God bless you and I hope it will help you with your forge welds.
I have thought of that, red hot plate on the anvil a second or two before attempting the weld on top! May help retain the heat for that extra second. Haven’t tried it yet but might now that I know heat is ultra important!
Is there a reason to have your anvil far from the forge? It might be a trick of perspective but ir seems that the distance is effecting your time to weld.
Al Toy-Caron I don’t know about Roy, but mine is about the same distance because my fire is too flippin hot to be any closer while the blower is running
I'm sure a ridiculous question but is a heat sensing gun of any use to a real Smith? By the way, I'd rather watch you make mistakes than watch Alex Steel forge a Tommy gun. Thanks again.
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Extremely helpful to see those first failed attempts followed by an explanation for the failures and then a successful weld.
I love looking at old tools and seeing the scarfs and welds from the blacksmiths work!
Your mistakes add to my confidence, glad you leave them in😊
Glad you found the video (and mistakes!) helpful :) ~Jessica at Christ Centered Ironworks
Really love this video Roy
Thank you for striking home the importance of perfecting Forge welding it's going to take me a lifetime to catch up with all these ideas but I'm cool with that
Thanks Roy for showing the videos they are educational.
And thank you sir for taking the time to watch them! Without my subscribers this knowledge would be lost in an endless tide pod challenges and slime videos out there on the internet lol. Thank you for your support by Watching God bless!
I'm loving these forge welding tutorials you have been putting out recently. And, the real-time format is really great! Also leaving in the failed attempts (with explanation) is a great part of the learning process, which reminds me of a saying . " The difference between a master and a beginner is that the master has failed more times than the beginner has ever tried ". I always try to keep this in mind when learning anything new and it really helps me to see failures as a crucial part of the learning process. All in all, I would say you have the whole forge welding process down to a T ;) ✌
Great advice! Much appreciated! Thanks and God Bless you guys!
Great stuff, Roy.
Always a pleasure to watch your videos.
Thank you very much and thank you for taking the time to watch God bless you and I'm glad to have you as part of the community.
Wow! that is going to take me a while, maybe a long while. Thank You!! Wayne
Practice makes perfect :) Thanks for watching! ~Jessica at Christ Centered Ironworks
Thanks for getting back. I'll concentrate on positioning, and get the speed of the hammer to hot steel. Cheers.
Great! Thanks for watching. ~Jessica at Christ Centered Ironworks
Oh my I'm very very late. Guess I thought I'd already been to this class.
Yup gota give you 100 on the blackboard
" I wont skip Mr. Roy classes any more I promise " ...now 99 more Crawford. Lol
Thumbs up mate
In my 18+ yrs of hobby smithing, I've only nailed 2 forge welds, and both were in public! 1st one was a 4" dia saddle ring for a stirrup, 2nd was a fold over in 5/16" x 1/4" to build mass for a tab to tie broom straw on a fireplace broom, which was then flattened to 3/4" wide x 1" long tab with 2 punched holes so the straw could be tied on later. Also welding in public is a NO-NO! flying debri could hit the public!
Thank you very much I see my problem is, I understand it's the shit's but it is much better to see you do have some welding trouble also. Be blessed and enjoy your day buddy.
Yep the main portion of a lot of people's Forge welding problems come from their timing. As you can see in this video getting distracted by other thoughts and not focusing on the weld itself led to its demise LOL. Thank you for taking the time to watch today God bless
How well does this work if you are welding on the edge, rather than on the flats?
Can you use the heat and hammer method with a torch or does that allow too much oxidation into the weld surface> I am looking to try when we get more gas. and you say you make it look easy, I dont think that so as it still took you 3 tries to get the weld to stick which shows the difficulty, and then there is setting the weld that takes a long time, as opposed to taking 2 minutes grinding and 20 seconds to use a welder as it were. but I still plan to try.
You probably can weld the joint using oxy acetylene then hammer after
ok I will give it a shot once I can get more gas
I have only had one successful forge weld so am by no means an expert, but this is a drop tong weld and you look for a place to put the tongs down. The tongs wont be hurt if you drop them and will save you part of a second.
Technically yes you are correct I am dropping the tongs in this weld but that is not the name of this particular Forge weld. The name stems from what its shape is which is a tee. This is a name that was given it from antiquity. When people refer to a drop the tongs weld they are referring to the action of dropping your tongs not the particular weld at hand. The main types of welds are (L, T, Glut, Butt, Lap, Half Lap, Blind, Collar, Jump, faggott, and Cleft weld more commonly known as birds mouth weld... some of these welds but not all require you to drop your tongues when making and joining the two pieces of Steel. Others however will require riveting, pinning, wrapping or stacking. Hope this information helps you in continuing your love for this great craft God bless you and have a great day :-)
1:30 how dare you steal the my Irish accent for Canada... lol
opps, 1:24 ;)
I've had no success forge welding , yet. I see now that speed is really a factor and you have to be fully set up when you take the 2 bars out of the fire. You mentioned the anvil sucking the heat out really fast. Would a piece of 1/2" x 4" x 6" steel plate heated up reasonably hot and placed on the anvil just a minute or two, to preheat the anvil, help or cause damage to the anvil prior to attempting the weld? I have a smaller Farrier's 75lb anvil. Thanks. Cheers.
In your case heating of the Anvil a little bit could be beneficial although I see preheating anvils as a complete waste of time. The reason for this opinion of mine comes from the fact that I work all day at the Anvil and the surface on a 465 lb anvil attached to a 350 lb steel base barely climbs above Body temp after an entire day of forging.. usually your weld will not be on the Anvil face for more than a half a second before you start to hammer on it. My main point in mentioning this was to support the fact that speed is the most important thing in the Forge welding process. The larger the stock the longer you have to make the weld but if you leave that stock on the Anvil it will chill whatever is on bottom to a point that it will no longer be at a welding state if left there to long.. thank you for taking the time to watch this video God bless you and I hope it will help you with your forge welds.
I have thought of that, red hot plate on the anvil a second or two before attempting the weld on top! May help retain the heat for that extra second. Haven’t tried it yet but might now that I know heat is ultra important!
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Is there a reason to have your anvil far from the forge? It might be a trick of perspective but ir seems that the distance is effecting your time to weld.
Al Toy-Caron I don’t know about Roy, but mine is about the same distance because my fire is too flippin hot to be any closer while the blower is running
Yup I'm slow, I can marginally accept that. Tong weld victory 3 for 3
I'm sure a ridiculous question but is a heat sensing gun of any use to a real Smith?
By the way, I'd rather watch you make mistakes than watch Alex Steel forge a Tommy gun. Thanks again.