@@JohnnySilverwrench I wish I could find anyone to play with, are Discord games worth it? I don't want to run into weirdo neckbeards like at my local shop
Bro this game is a hard hitter for sure. Its an extremely believable near future. This is what happens when people actually work; they make amazing things. They understood the topics and human depravity as well as geo-politics in the plot pretty dang well. They understood almost everything from the darkest from all walks of life and applied it properly in this story. This is a good game.
The scariest thing is that jackies words actually have some semblance to what you’re saying. Its like they couldnt recover him completely, but hes trying to speak to you as much as he can with limited speech. He hears us… but he cant even respond. When he says “afterlife, cya there” he prolly wants to say: im dead already, and you’re dying too. So when you die, ill cya in the afterlife
It’s like ChatGPT where it’s not actually thinking, it’s just generating text based on what seems appropriate, Jackie doesn’t seem to know he’s dead or an engram, although that’s possibly a side effect of them wanting information from him, they didn’t take the time to make a proper engram
I think because he died then got tranfered to engram he did not have soul v was alive and was fully functional except dying so maybe his soul transfered
@@justadummy8076 For what we see of Jacky that's probably a really good analogy to an engram. Jack would be a ChatGPT system running on what few memories could be recovered. Being dead, much was lost. (Small dataset = a lot of "I don't know so here's a random guess"). Johnny being alive allowed then to record all or at least most of his memories to give the system more to work with. Johnny also had the advantage of piggybacking on a meat brain (yours) so its much closer to being *alive* than engrams running off the server would get.
If you follow a certain theory it gets worse. That it's so incomplete it's not even "Jackie" responding to V, but Hanako just puppeteering him for you. She listen's to your response, plugs a word in to match the tone of the response, eyes glow up blue for the playback of a memory that might ... fit ... however loosely. Watch her eyes in the cutscene, they only light up when "Jackie" says something.
Not being able to do the "don't fear the reaper." quest by choosing wrong the dialog options with Jhonny is the most painful one, that's the only ending that I want for my V.
I recently learned about this ending. Immediately reinstalled the game and im currently gunnin' for it. Took my gonk ass 2 fucken years to know that ending even exists.
Hearing jackie talk like he never died is breaking. The hope in his voice, the dream in his vision. He doesn't know he's dead, just wandering around like the job never screwed up. I'm glad i keep choosing to send him to mama.
I think he does know they made him an engram after he died so they may have copied him but he just can’t talk normally he can only use stuff he has already said kinda like bumble bee and the radio. Putting stuff together to get the point across, every one of his responses to v seem to have an underlying meaning especially the last one “afterlife see you there” it’s him saying see you in the literal afterlife it’s actually amazing
@@SunbatOW sense I made that comment the more I believe that’s what’s happening here of all the engrams we know we’re turned into engrams when they were alive only dying after having there mind downloaded,Jackie’s engram is the only one to not speak and act alive everything he says and does is something he already has done and it’s not like the corp went through all of the cameras around night city to get this stuff and Jackie definitely wasn’t brain dancing his whole life. But he’s in there his consciousness is in the engram so the only way he could be like this is the fact that he died before his mind was downloaded, and even when your dead your brain will still fire neurons for a period of time that means when the corp got to him they downloaded the last remaining firing neurons in Jackie’s brain saving his consciousness but due to only saving a part of him he can’t communicate properly and can only use what those neurons held which is things he’s already said done. We all know the how some people who have been near death or dead for a short period of time see there lives flash before them, that’s what scientists think those last firing neurons are and that’s what the corps downloaded so that’s the only way he can communicate. It’s really fucking sad Thanks for listening to my Ted talk Lol
I usually prefer to reset Del in most of my playthroughs, you get to watch him learn and grow again if you use del enough and for long enough. At one point his conscience seems to kick in and he starts asking questions about love .
I destroyed the core (didn't have enough level to merge) and the Excelsior vehicle you get is also learning the same way. And you get a few messages from the different Delamain AI that ran off.
Telling the truth to Jefferson Peralez at the end of "Dream On..." is a bit cursed too. You get a call from him in the epilogue where he tries to explain how he believes his wife is in on the conspiracy and is trying to poison him with vitamin supplements. He is all sweaty and bumbling because he doesn't know whats up or down and cant be sure if anything that ever happened in his life is real or true. Its so sad.
I’ll be honest here… Mr. Blue is my favorite character. I honestly wish I had his abilities, but I would use them for good purposes. Surely, you would do that to politicians & CEOs who deserved it. ;)
The only one of these I did was send Jackie's body to Vik's, because in my head I imagined the other scenario playing out as Mama Welles walking up to a cab that pulled up at her house and finding Jackie's dead bullet-ridden body in the back, and her just having a mental breakdown. It made much more sense to me to deliver the body to Vik's because he's a tough old bird and would understand what happened and take care of the body until it could be claimed in a more civil scenario, like if V told her himself and they went to get the body together. The worst part is that I felt justified in this decision when I learned that Arasaka raided Vik's for the body, becuase then I thought that if I sent the body to her, they would have just done the same thing to a grieving mother, but nope, instead you just get a very touching series of side-quests instead that help flesh out the secondary characters.....and I'm only now finding this out after 4 playthroughs....
She had a lot of gang bois in her bar at all times i guess so if arasaka was dumb enough to start shit it would escalate to war lvl quickly. So it would not be worth it to try it. Vic on the other hand is all alone.
Yeah, it’s such a reasonable choice to make, it feels like, but then the consequence is basically a dead-on-arrival “they stole the body.” When the other choice gives you a whole side quest where you get to deal with the emotions of everything with family. There’s no warning that this is the coldest, worst decision you could be making.
@@somethingyouhave And it's only really in hindsight that you can think about it logically that Vic would be an easy target for Arasaka compared to the Valentinos. Like of course it makes sense that Arasaka wouldn't try and retrieve a body in the middle of a gangland. But both the player and V wouldn't really think about that because of the pain of losing Jackie.
@@remigusker6024 Everything is in hopes of being better, but I think it is gonna be the case since is not on their engine, is on UE5 plus the support by Epic, they know already what they wanna do, what assets to create, mechanics and so on, and this is the bigger one, they witnessed first hand what a poor launch can do plus changing a whole game for a character, so they can stick to their guns and make a good game.
Takemura basically confirms that Silverhand’s memories are altered with his Soulkiller talk. The discrepancies between CDPR’s version of events and the original story are easily explained with Silverhand’s engram being taken from his corpse and then altered by Arasaka
But why would Arasaka alter them in this specific way? In my eyes, the whole thing was poorly conceived by the writers. They shoehorned in Keanu, who looks nothing like the original Johnny Silverhand, cheapen Silverhand's death by a potential "resurrection" of sorts, and all at the expense of the agency of the one character you need to give a semblance of agency to...
@@ohauss I’d say because of scientific curiosity. I agree with all of that, but if you had the ability to alter minds, wouldn’t you be testing your capabilities or trying to expand them?
Also isn’t the model for Morgan Blackhand Mr Blue Eyes as well? Maybe Arasaka wanted to protect him? I’m still more about the scientific curiosity though.
@@ohauss Imagine you got a program that can snatch basically ANYONE. Turn them into an engram, you can store them in Mikoshi basically forever. Now, thanks to V, you're also nearly there figuring out how to put those engrams back in bodies WITHOUT it failing more or less spectacularly. Furthermore, clone technology IS a thing in 2077. Maybe not advanced enough, yet, but it sure will be in the future, to create an entire human being (iirc, in the tabletop, Biotechnica or some other corpo already had got to that point back in the early 2000s but those clones were so riddled with cancers they only lived a very short, very painful life.). So you got a way to capture youre enemies' souls, basically. You got a way to clone your enemies' bodies. If you now only found a way to alter your enemies' souls/engrams in a way so they're not your enemies anymore. Change their memories. Sure, it can be done but can it be done in a way that the engram/soul doesn't even notice it's been altered? What do you do to figure out how to achieve this? Right. You take some of those "junk" engrams you're keeping just in case and use them to practice. Like, for example, the engram of a certain Johnny Silverhand (because, let's face it, though Arasaka was a big thing for him, he never was a big thing for Arasaka - more like an annoying fly to be swatted away). If you, for example, can make him remember his own death wrong, an event that surely ought to be inalterably engraved in his memory ... well, if you can do that, you can do anything. And there you are, suddenly Johnny remembers all kinds of things completely wrong.
Last night I tried the Hanako ending for the first time, I hadn't seen any spoilers on it. Man, I needed to take a shower afterwards, such a moral letdown in every way and as a Corpo is even worse because of the ass kissing dialogs it opens up. The change of helm at Arasaka (no spoilers) is also disturbing and odd. God I hated every second of it.
The Devil Ending is honestly my favorite ending for V the vibe of it just hits different for me unlike the other endings and fits the whole “no good endings in Night city” imo but don’t fear the reaper is a close second
I think morally it is the right decision to send him to Vik, but best intentions do not always result in the best outcomes. It's just not how the world works, especially not Night City.
The braindances for the farm were pretty cursed on their own. Maybe it was my playthrough, but i was seeing npcs that would be highlightable in shadows then disappear. Sometimes just in the distance. Maybe this was a bug, but man did it make this whole quest line that much more creepier.
It wasn't a bug! It happens to me too then I realized it was the kidnapper's mother. ( I think it was mentioned at some computer at the police station). Take into account that the BD wasn't recorded from real experience but from the kidnapper's dream. That kind of attention to detail makes me angry as to other parts of the game wasn't as polished as story or characters.
16:32 Something about Jackie's Engram is so hopeful. . . It's a little eerie the way he replays voice lines from Jackie in act1, but you can tell there's something there that's more than just. . . Dead neurons firing as they remember they should, data encapsulated from a lost soul. That last line, "See you at the Afterlife," was too apt a choice. Jackie gives us a dozen goodbyes throughout the game, but that's the one he gives you right before the heist, right at the happiest most excited he is in the whole time we see him, and likewise, there's something that's so absolutely true about it as well, he's not just saying that he'll "see us later," It feels very much to me like this last conversation meant something to Jackie too, like he really was saying to us, "I'll see you again on the other side soon Amigo, shame we ended up here, but here we are together; let me escort you there?"
You can convince Sandra Dorsett to stand down if you have a high enough int and compliment her on being able to haze NightCorp. It was pretty neat since I needed to know what was inside her databank but also didn't want to resort to shooting the very first person Jackie and I saved in night city
My 1st playthru I sent Jackies body to Viks, I thought that was easily the better option because sending a shot up dead body to their mother is kind of effed up right? Apparently I was wrong.
I did reset delamain for two reasons: 1. As a street samurai i could not merge them all into new AI (no networking or however it was called) 2. "Children" ware unstable AI that could degrade into psychopathic killing machines. Resetting while not ideal (what can you learn if you just cut off pieces of your history? Same goes for AI i guess) was better then setting off a bunch of potencial d&d murderhobos on nightcity.
Jackie’s engram is the saddest thing I’ve seen in the game just imagine how devastating it was for mama Welles not to see her son again for one last time and then having his corpse not laid to rest by an evil corporation just to prison him for no reason
I actually reset Delamain during my playthrough, due to it being the only interaction in which you get to talk with Delamain after the quest once you get a cab from him. If you reset, you’ll get to have a short chat between Delamain and V every time you summon your personal cab from the vehicle menu.
A lot of these I didn't even know about but seeing them in this video was heartbreaking. It never even occurred to me that you could bail in the middle of a mission.
Some games such as Fallout do have stats determine certain options. Like low int in New Vegas lets you "guess" a password because your character is stupid and thinks a Mr Handy it's talking to is an Icecream machine or something. So you just yell "ICECREAM" at it and you pass the check.
What’s even more cursed to me is that you can snitch on Panam and the other nomads during the quest to get the Basilisk. Panam and the others get exiled, Panam is pissed at you ending your quest line with her and you get a red car.
@@godsyogurtgun When Panam and the squad are about to head to that train depot thing, you can walk back and find Saul and tell him what Panam and the other nomads plans are.
Happy to say I made none of these decisions except for letting Johnny have my body since you gotta do all the endings for the platinum trophy. First time I played i chose to go with Panam though. Best ending imo.
I don't mind resetting Del. It's what he is asking, so me being the merc that I am, do what he wants. Simple as that. And the side with Arasaka in the end is what I do on my V who has no friends playthrough.
@@Darketka indeed. If anything, I was lacking some interactions when I romanced him after his quest was finished. Although I played at release and I've heard they improved romances.
@@Exxy6965 Every of the romances were brutally cutoff by CDPR due to lack of time I guess. River should have at least one more additional quest so we can know him better ;)
It still boggles my mind that, for some weird reason, there's no ofrenda/funeral for Jackie just because you didn't send his body to the right location
I found the give-Johnny-your-body especially cursed, as after all his growth, he doesn't even message your friends. Just ignores them and goes off into the world. WTAF
Probably feeling too guilty to be able to face them. Or maybe he did contact Rogue first and after her reply, he just didn't wanna get similar answers from all of V's other friends?
@@veladarney That ending was my first. Yeah. Johnny contacts Rogue if she's alive. She's more or less like "I don't know how you convinced V into this, but I hope you know what the hell you are doing"
Listen to Jackie's words. You know he's not just saying random shit from past interactiobs. He's trying to answer you in his own way. I felt like he's kinda disappointed in us when the first thing he said is "Not bad being the heir of arasaka" its like he's saying "Not bad being their toy huh?"
You meet Jackie again at the very end of the Arasaka ending after they're done dissecting your brain. He sits in the corridor and moans a few more words
I do not feel bad for reseting Dalman (do not feel its cursed). His "Children" tried to kill me and a lot of them were plain ol psyco. Dal has always been a straight up AI, his kids, not so much.
When I play games that have choices, I usually try my best to be good in the first play through, and then I try to be the most eviI person making all the wrong choices on my second play through, it's so fun lol
@@helplies7184 No, it isn't. But feel free to take it up with Mike Pondsmith and his description of Cyberpunk in "listen up you primitive screwheads", the seminal gamemastering guide for CP2020
I completely forgot about that quest. Like, mental block. Its even better when you realize its one of the few moments the game blocks photo mode from you.
For number 9: Yes, the dolls may end up in some 'hot water' after if you don't side with Maiko. But I usually go the path of V confronting both the claws and Maiko at the same time. Which ends with V getting a peck on the cheek from Judy (only tested with FemV). But getting Judy pissed off, and not being able to extract her from NC with the Nomad ending, is even more of a 'cursed decision' than anything.
I don't consider Resetting Delamain as cursed. If you don't have high intelligence or tech (i forgot which) attribute, then you can't pick the best ending. You have a choice between killing Delamain or his 'kids' which he does not love. But I remembered that Delamain hired me and Delamain saved my life when I called for him when I was dying so for me, Delamain was more important than his broken 'kids'. The memory wipe was sad, yes (although he says he has the logs of all past events), but I still get to talk to him in his car, which I like.
Judy's naivete and the cursedly slow pace that she walks at means telling her that the idea to take over Clouds is stupid is the best outcome for her and everyone at Clouds. She'll leave town without many people dying for nothing, and as a huge bonus...Maiko never gets a promotion. I know lots of people love Judy, but she really is a horrible judge of character with childish ideas about how the world works. After everything she's been through, sending her back to her grandparents is about the best thing you can do for her. Some would see that course of action as cursed...but I think it's in her best long term interests.
OOOF the Johnny ending is beautiful when V sacrifices himself but damn if it's taken against V's will that completely changes the whole thing... Yikes that's dark.
Depending on your build: beating the shit out of Fingers. If you punch him you won't be able to buy anything, which would be fine if he wasn't the only Ripper that carried the Pain Editor. It's a must for a melee heavy character build.
I think the best ending in the game is the go it alone ending, & then voluntarily giving Johnny the body. It both protects all your friends, & shows a lot of personal growth in both the V & Johnny characters.
If you do the Rogue ending as Johnny you can have Johnny keep the body with V being completely on board with the right convo options. I consider Johnny keeping the body the second best ending. Johnny keeping the body is only bad/depressing if you intentionally pick all the depressing convo options.
V: _(Assures to help)_ V: _(Jumps out of moving van without context)_ V: _(Stares at your driverless van)_ V: _(Refuses to elaborate further)_ V: _(Air dashes away)_
So I played at the release and I sent Jackie to Mama Welles. Went to his funeral, talked to Misty and the rest. Then I definitely got this opportunity to speak to Jackie from Mikoshi. So I wonder if that's some type of bug then... because you do say that you need to send him to Vic for this to happen.
Technically giving your body to Jhonny is the best outcome, the body doesn't die, V technically is also kind of still there and there is no soul being sold to Arasaka. I still go with the Nomad ending though, since I almost always play a nomad and I like Judy and Panam.
I always send Jackie to Vik's shop because I like the thought of Arasaka taking his body so maybe we'll see him again in a later in cyberpunk 2. His ofrenda makes it feel like he gone gone.
He is either way, what you get from a cold corpse is damaged echo, hell even full engram is a dubious copy of a psyche, let slone half scrambled one taken from damaged dead brain
I can understand how u think that. However when v talks to Jackie through Hanako you can tell that that isn't Jackie it's like Jackie is there but he can only try to talk with the small fragmented pieces of his mind hence why he just gives u lines from act 1. And at the very end when he says see u in the afterlife that doesn't feel like him talking about the afterlife club but instead the genuine afterlife. Like he knows v is gonna die soon.
Honestly, with the river Questline, im upset that when you decide between the two farms, there is no option to split up and go to one farm each. If River wasnt such a bad solo we could have covered more ground and guaranteed success
Familia should know as soon as possible. Barely took any time to think. A simple "hey, your son is dead" phone call ain't gonna cut it, and parents would not be happy being left out of the loop on their child dying.
I like the Arasaka End. V's final words with the guard are pretty cool and somewhat optimistic and Takemura at least seems to have faith you'll be back.
Seeing Jackie in the engram shows 1 of 2 things depending on ur pov. Either view it as Jackie unable to fully speak and comprehend, or the realization that the engrams aren't actually people and V was simply interacting w half a brain
Saving Goro Takemura is completely pointless unless you are intentionally going for a specific version of the Bad Ending where Goro gets to lie to you and screw you over. Why? Why? Why would you deliberately do that to yourself. Goro gets offed by his own people? LOL!!!!! This is all upside with no downside. Good riddance to bad corpo rubbish.
Instead of saving him id love the option to fight him in battle missed opportunity imo not fighting suburos personal body guard, if you save him and go against saka he threatens you which would’ve been a good epilogue boss
I chose to reset Delamain, mostly because I didn't have the Stats. I personally would still choose to reset him, because having those other Delamain-Personalities running around would be pretty catastrophic. The Merge Option also sounds good, but, like I said, I didn't have the option.
Damn, lot's of people criticized this game for being to linear but after finishing it myself and watching these kinds of video's, I just think they didn't realize how much choice you actually have. Yes the main story is linear in the middle, but a lot of the side quests, the life path prologues and mission, the plethora of endings really do give a lot of choice and flavour.
@@zephyr1249 Ill just paste my other comment : "I did reset delamain for two reasons: 1. As a street samurai i could not merge them all into new AI (no networking or however it was called) 2. "Children" ware unstable AI that could degrade into psychopathic killing machines. Resetting while not ideal (what can you learn if you just cut off pieces of your history? Same goes for AI i guess) was better then setting off a bunch of potential d&d murderhobos on nightcity."
@@albertoquintero5281You have a Third Option. Destroying Delamains Core and Kid AI's are Free and some of them Roam around the World and Delamain No21 still stays with you no matter what.
For the River quest, if you don't have a high enough Intelligence so you can't hack the laptop then a good way around this is to have already been to Edgewood farm. V will say something about having been there already.
@yhng_drilla8439 I know, right! There are so many alternative ways of doing things. I did have a chart of the optimal abilities to have to open up certain paths in quests. For instance, you needed 12 in intelligence to merge Delamain's core together or a certain reflex points to open certain dialogue options. But the 2.0 patch messed all that up. There are still hidden items locked behind attribute gates that have remained the same, but you now need 20 intelligence to merge Dels cores. They need to work on balancing it all back out because somethings just don't make sense.
I think doing the Us Cracks mission and letting the member suffer the consequences is one of the shittier things to do in the game as well. Not helping Panam take out Nash locks you out of one of if not the best iconic gun in the game. Returning Skippy is also one of the worst decisions if you have become attached at all. Not punching Fingers, f' the missed out cyberware, if you don't punch him you are either a pansy or a sick person.
>Not helping Panam take out Nash locks you out of one of if not the best iconic gun in the game. Not true, you can loot it from his body when raffens raid the nomad camp after firing up the basilisk.
I sent Jackie's body to Vik's because no mother should see her child all bloody and riddled with bullets like that. Figured Vik would dress his body and make it more presentable, slowly break the news to Mama Welles.
Man last night I ended up getting the worse ending of my first play-through 😭. The look on V’s face when he had to walk up to the chair, it’s like what Johnny said about how I was gonna regret this and he was right 🥺.
My favorite cursed decision happens during the 2nd Sandra Dorsett mission. You'd think it would be cracking her data-drive and then trying to black-mail her, but it's so much better. We crack her data drive, then knock on the door and pretend to be her friend. We openly admit that we took a peak at her drive and go so far as to congratulate her for sticking it to Nightcorp. Right as V pays her that compliment, you upload Blackwall Gateway into her system and watch as she screams in agony while her eyes burn out of her skull.
I certainly made some of these bad decisions...sending Jackie's body to Vik the primary one. A few of them I did purely to see what happens, realizing they were probably just a bad outcome. One that had me going for a while was ratting out Panam to Saul in the Little Help From My Friends job. Although it obviously enrages Panam [some _really_ savage calls and texts] the messages from Saul and Mitch suggested that I was still in the good graces of the other Aldecaldos. This proved to be incorrect as I was locked out of the Star ending after all.
You should have included punching Fingers. Unless you bought the QianT Mk.4 Sandevistan off him before the mission you can opt to punch him, you're no longer able to buy his goods or services. The QianT Mk.4 is possibly the best Sandevistan in the game, with a cool-down of just 15 seconds which can be reduced to just 2 seconds with some legendary mods ("heat sinks"). So if you want to do a David Martinez build, don't punch Fingers. (Or, get that Sandy prior to punching him!)
Its good sandevistan for mele builds, and you have to max tech abilities to use max potential of this. So, there are many better options if you dont have this specific build
remember the first time I played I sent jackie to vik thinking he'll take good care of Jackie but then the first time I side arasaka I realized my grave error and never ever did I do it again. I love Jackie so much.
7:30 I was reloading save files to get ending achievements and actually told V I'd let him keep his body, when I walked to the well instead he pushed me to the ground, then broke down crying and let me do it, made the ending cutscene unbearably sickening
The thing about making the choice to become an Arasaka ngram is that I could see that being the setup for Cyberpunk's sequel. The tables turned and V as the digital conscience taking over someone else's mind.
I sent Jackie to Vik, since I thought he could do something for Jack....didnt realize the impact of that until this video.
I made the same mistake. :(
Oof! I did that on my first playthrough, big mistake in my opinion
Can't bring the dead back to life. Even Johnny is simply the digital copy of a dead man.
Yall need to play the ttrpgs if you think johnnys actually dead...
@@JohnnySilverwrench I wish I could find anyone to play with, are Discord games worth it? I don't want to run into weirdo neckbeards like at my local shop
The Jackie engram almost hurts as much as all your friends calling you after the suicide ending 😅 that SHATTERED me
Bro this game is a hard hitter for sure. Its an extremely believable near future. This is what happens when people actually work; they make amazing things. They understood the topics and human depravity as well as geo-politics in the plot pretty dang well. They understood almost everything from the darkest from all walks of life and applied it properly in this story. This is a good game.
It’s terrible. He’s reduced to a repetitive soundbyte. Reason enough to blow that place to hell
Indecision is always best. Just leave him in the car.
@@FraZzJ indecision is just as bad mate
@@FraZzJ who the fuck told you that? Doing nothing is infinitely worse than doing the wrong thing, especially on accident.
The scariest thing is that jackies words actually have some semblance to what you’re saying. Its like they couldnt recover him completely, but hes trying to speak to you as much as he can with limited speech. He hears us… but he cant even respond. When he says “afterlife, cya there” he prolly wants to say: im dead already, and you’re dying too. So when you die, ill cya in the afterlife
He's basically an NFT copy of Jackie. It's horrible.
It’s like ChatGPT where it’s not actually thinking, it’s just generating text based on what seems appropriate, Jackie doesn’t seem to know he’s dead or an engram, although that’s possibly a side effect of them wanting information from him, they didn’t take the time to make a proper engram
I think because he died then got tranfered to engram he did not have soul v was alive and was fully functional except dying so maybe his soul transfered
@@justadummy8076 For what we see of Jacky that's probably a really good analogy to an engram. Jack would be a ChatGPT system running on what few memories could be recovered. Being dead, much was lost. (Small dataset = a lot of "I don't know so here's a random guess"). Johnny being alive allowed then to record all or at least most of his memories to give the system more to work with.
Johnny also had the advantage of piggybacking on a meat brain (yours) so its much closer to being *alive* than engrams running off the server would get.
If you follow a certain theory it gets worse. That it's so incomplete it's not even "Jackie" responding to V, but Hanako just puppeteering him for you. She listen's to your response, plugs a word in to match the tone of the response, eyes glow up blue for the playback of a memory that might ... fit ... however loosely. Watch her eyes in the cutscene, they only light up when "Jackie" says something.
Not being able to do the "don't fear the reaper." quest by choosing wrong the dialog options with Jhonny is the most painful one, that's the only ending that I want for my V.
If you install the console you can bring your relationship with Johnny to 70% without making the right choices. (Edit: only working on pc i guess)
i loaded the game from almost 50h earlier just for this! the only good ending, finished it, felt super good
I recently learned about this ending. Immediately reinstalled the game and im currently gunnin' for it.
Took my gonk ass 2 fucken years to know that ending even exists.
Went back roughly 20 hours of gameplay to re-do the relevant quest and get the answers right. Was totally worth it, only true ending for me.
@@veladarney agreed! I hope we get new game plus next, redo quest and keep the exp would make getting the right choices less painful
Hearing jackie talk like he never died is breaking. The hope in his voice, the dream in his vision. He doesn't know he's dead, just wandering around like the job never screwed up. I'm glad i keep choosing to send him to mama.
I think he does know they made him an engram after he died so they may have copied him but he just can’t talk normally he can only use stuff he has already said kinda like bumble bee and the radio. Putting stuff together to get the point across, every one of his responses to v seem to have an underlying meaning especially the last one “afterlife see you there” it’s him saying see you in the literal afterlife it’s actually amazing
@@ProLi0nBizzythat would be busted. Had a feel he meant the actual afterlife but wasn’t sure. This makes the engram scene even sadder jesus
@@SunbatOW sense I made that comment the more I believe that’s what’s happening here of all the engrams we know we’re turned into engrams when they were alive only dying after having there mind downloaded,Jackie’s engram is the only one to not speak and act alive everything he says and does is something he already has done and it’s not like the corp went through all of the cameras around night city to get this stuff and Jackie definitely wasn’t brain dancing his whole life. But he’s in there his consciousness is in the engram so the only way he could be like this is the fact that he died before his mind was downloaded, and even when your dead your brain will still fire neurons for a period of time that means when the corp got to him they downloaded the last remaining firing neurons in Jackie’s brain saving his consciousness but due to only saving a part of him he can’t communicate properly and can only use what those neurons held which is things he’s already said done. We all know the how some people who have been near death or dead for a short period of time see there lives flash before them, that’s what scientists think those last firing neurons are and that’s what the corps downloaded so that’s the only way he can communicate. It’s really fucking sad
Thanks for listening to my Ted talk
Lol
@@ProLi0nBizzy sh*t is sad yo lmaoo
@@SunbatOW fr 😭
I usually prefer to reset Del in most of my playthroughs, you get to watch him learn and grow again if you use del enough and for long enough.
At one point his conscience seems to kick in and he starts asking questions about love .
Wait, what? I thought the taxi just became a normal car you drive around.
@@rylian21 Depends on which option you pick. But yea del asks questions, and so does Lil' Del
I destroyed the core (didn't have enough level to merge) and the Excelsior vehicle you get is also learning the same way. And you get a few messages from the different Delamain AI that ran off.
I reset Del because some of his cars sounded like dangerous psychopaths.
Telling the truth to Jefferson Peralez at the end of "Dream On..." is a bit cursed too. You get a call from him in the epilogue where he tries to explain how he believes his wife is in on the conspiracy and is trying to poison him with vitamin supplements. He is all sweaty and bumbling because he doesn't know whats up or down and cant be sure if anything that ever happened in his life is real or true. Its so sad.
I’ll be honest here… Mr. Blue is my favorite character. I honestly wish I had his abilities, but I would use them for good purposes. Surely, you would do that to politicians & CEOs who deserved it. ;)
Imo every outcomes are cursed with peralez plotline
Honestly? I'm actually pretty convinced his wife's in on it somehow. So good for him for getting suspicious of her.
There is no good outcome to that quest.
@@veladarneywell she ain't in on it, she's just being brainwashed like he is, they're both puppets in that regard
Most cursed ending is bringing the aldecaldos to Mikoshi, getting most of them killed, and letting Johnny have your body anyway.
That's just insane
The only one of these I did was send Jackie's body to Vik's, because in my head I imagined the other scenario playing out as Mama Welles walking up to a cab that pulled up at her house and finding Jackie's dead bullet-ridden body in the back, and her just having a mental breakdown.
It made much more sense to me to deliver the body to Vik's because he's a tough old bird and would understand what happened and take care of the body until it could be claimed in a more civil scenario, like if V told her himself and they went to get the body together. The worst part is that I felt justified in this decision when I learned that Arasaka raided Vik's for the body, becuase then I thought that if I sent the body to her, they would have just done the same thing to a grieving mother, but nope, instead you just get a very touching series of side-quests instead that help flesh out the secondary characters.....and I'm only now finding this out after 4 playthroughs....
She had a lot of gang bois in her bar at all times i guess so if arasaka was dumb enough to start shit it would escalate to war lvl quickly. So it would not be worth it to try it. Vic on the other hand is all alone.
Yep! All those Valentinos wouldn't have it!
Yeah, it’s such a reasonable choice to make, it feels like, but then the consequence is basically a dead-on-arrival “they stole the body.” When the other choice gives you a whole side quest where you get to deal with the emotions of everything with family. There’s no warning that this is the coldest, worst decision you could be making.
@@somethingyouhave And it's only really in hindsight that you can think about it logically that Vic would be an easy target for Arasaka compared to the Valentinos. Like of course it makes sense that Arasaka wouldn't try and retrieve a body in the middle of a gangland. But both the player and V wouldn't really think about that because of the pain of losing Jackie.
Same
Jackie in Mikoshi sounds like he is responding and understanding V, but only using the exact moments key moments he remembers in his broken engram.
It's tragic and horrifying
I really hope they make a sequel, I loved this game. I loved RDR2 but cyberpunk 2077 is the only RPG I’ve played multiple times
@@The_Digital_Soul Yeah, it's going to be done in unreal as well I think so hopefully development won't be such a shitshow this time.
@@remigusker6024 yeah plus they got support from epic now since they made a deal to use ue5
@@remigusker6024 Everything is in hopes of being better, but I think it is gonna be the case since is not on their engine, is on UE5 plus the support by Epic, they know already what they wanna do, what assets to create, mechanics and so on, and this is the bigger one, they witnessed first hand what a poor launch can do plus changing a whole game for a character, so they can stick to their guns and make a good game.
Also the higher ups at cdpr have listened about pushing the devs too hard.
I play both a little too much
Dang, I've played through this game 10 times and never knew River could die. crazy.
I refused to help him on one playthrough because I just didn't feel like it and found out what happens.
I never knew you could pick a wrong farm >.>
I don't even know who River is and I've finished the game twice now
@@MikeThePole you must not have done the missions for Jefferson and Elizabeth Peralez?
Takemura basically confirms that Silverhand’s memories are altered with his Soulkiller talk. The discrepancies between CDPR’s version of events and the original story are easily explained with Silverhand’s engram being taken from his corpse and then altered by Arasaka
But why would Arasaka alter them in this specific way? In my eyes, the whole thing was poorly conceived by the writers. They shoehorned in Keanu, who looks nothing like the original Johnny Silverhand, cheapen Silverhand's death by a potential "resurrection" of sorts, and all at the expense of the agency of the one character you need to give a semblance of agency to...
@@ohauss
I’d say because of scientific curiosity. I agree with all of that, but if you had the ability to alter minds, wouldn’t you be testing your capabilities or trying to expand them?
@@ohaussI agree… the only, only thing I can think of is arasaka wanted to make an example of Johnny.
Also isn’t the model for Morgan Blackhand Mr Blue Eyes as well? Maybe Arasaka wanted to protect him? I’m still more about the scientific curiosity though.
@@ohauss Imagine you got a program that can snatch basically ANYONE. Turn them into an engram, you can store them in Mikoshi basically forever. Now, thanks to V, you're also nearly there figuring out how to put those engrams back in bodies WITHOUT it failing more or less spectacularly. Furthermore, clone technology IS a thing in 2077. Maybe not advanced enough, yet, but it sure will be in the future, to create an entire human being (iirc, in the tabletop, Biotechnica or some other corpo already had got to that point back in the early 2000s but those clones were so riddled with cancers they only lived a very short, very painful life.).
So you got a way to capture youre enemies' souls, basically. You got a way to clone your enemies' bodies. If you now only found a way to alter your enemies' souls/engrams in a way so they're not your enemies anymore. Change their memories. Sure, it can be done but can it be done in a way that the engram/soul doesn't even notice it's been altered? What do you do to figure out how to achieve this? Right. You take some of those "junk" engrams you're keeping just in case and use them to practice. Like, for example, the engram of a certain Johnny Silverhand (because, let's face it, though Arasaka was a big thing for him, he never was a big thing for Arasaka - more like an annoying fly to be swatted away). If you, for example, can make him remember his own death wrong, an event that surely ought to be inalterably engraved in his memory ... well, if you can do that, you can do anything.
And there you are, suddenly Johnny remembers all kinds of things completely wrong.
Last night I tried the Hanako ending for the first time, I hadn't seen any spoilers on it. Man, I needed to take a shower afterwards, such a moral letdown in every way and as a Corpo is even worse because of the ass kissing dialogs it opens up. The change of helm at Arasaka (no spoilers) is also disturbing and odd. God I hated every second of it.
Yup.
It is the worst ending.
Also the ending I got "naturally" on my first playthrough.
Hey, can you solve this rubix cube?
@@ibelieveingaming3562 [war flashbacks]
The Devil Ending is honestly my favorite ending for V the vibe of it just hits different for me unlike the other endings and fits the whole “no good endings in Night city” imo but don’t fear the reaper is a close second
@@ibelieveingaming3562 Yes you can solve that cube if you do all the steps of the flashbacks .
@@EternalNightingale same. It's honestly the only ending that really 'fit' with the theme of the game, imo.
Sending Jackie to Viks clinic is the decision that *should* be the right one so he can be tended to and made ready for return to Mama Welles.
what i thought
I think morally it is the right decision to send him to Vik, but best intentions do not always result in the best outcomes. It's just not how the world works, especially not Night City.
@@CountScarlioni you're right
That’s not how night city works… maybe go watch edgerunners and how David gets his mom’s ashes
@@zerotodona1495That's David, this is V.
The braindances for the farm were pretty cursed on their own. Maybe it was my playthrough, but i was seeing npcs that would be highlightable in shadows then disappear. Sometimes just in the distance. Maybe this was a bug, but man did it make this whole quest line that much more creepier.
It wasn't a bug! It happens to me too then I realized it was the kidnapper's mother. ( I think it was mentioned at some computer at the police station). Take into account that the BD wasn't recorded from real experience but from the kidnapper's dream. That kind of attention to detail makes me angry as to other parts of the game wasn't as polished as story or characters.
It was creepy AF. It remind me of the Cerys An Craite storyline with the Hym on Witcher 3 level of creep.
What about betraying Panam during Queen of the Highway? I think that’s got a spot on the list too
Yeah, I can’t believe he left that one out!
I just mentioned that one myself. Honestly I’d say selling out your friend for a red car is pretty damn cursed. Surprised it didn’t make the list.
16:32
Something about Jackie's Engram is so hopeful. . . It's a little eerie the way he replays voice lines from Jackie in act1, but you can tell there's something there that's more than just. . . Dead neurons firing as they remember they should, data encapsulated from a lost soul.
That last line, "See you at the Afterlife," was too apt a choice. Jackie gives us a dozen goodbyes throughout the game, but that's the one he gives you right before the heist, right at the happiest most excited he is in the whole time we see him, and likewise, there's something that's so absolutely true about it as well, he's not just saying that he'll "see us later,"
It feels very much to me like this last conversation meant something to Jackie too, like he really was saying to us, "I'll see you again on the other side soon Amigo, shame we ended up here, but here we are together; let me escort you there?"
You can convince Sandra Dorsett to stand down if you have a high enough int and compliment her on being able to haze NightCorp. It was pretty neat since I needed to know what was inside her databank but also didn't want to resort to shooting the very first person Jackie and I saved in night city
My 1st playthru I sent Jackies body to Viks, I thought that was easily the better option because sending a shot up dead body to their mother is kind of effed up right? Apparently I was wrong.
I did reset delamain for two reasons:
1. As a street samurai i could not merge them all into new AI (no networking or however it was called)
2. "Children" ware unstable AI that could degrade into psychopathic killing machines.
Resetting while not ideal (what can you learn if you just cut off pieces of your history? Same goes for AI i guess) was better then setting off a bunch of potencial d&d murderhobos on nightcity.
I actually quite like sending Jackie to Viks because it gives V more of like a reason to get revenge and stuff.
Well that sucks. I played Cyberpunk 3 times and never knew I could get Jackie's pistols.
Come back some time after the ofrenda and you can just pick them up from the table. Took me a couple of playthroughs too.
I used his bike till the endgame
Jackie’s engram is the saddest thing I’ve seen in the game just imagine how devastating it was for mama Welles not to see her son again for one last time and then having his corpse not laid to rest by an evil corporation just to prison him for no reason
I actually reset Delamain during my playthrough, due to it being the only interaction in which you get to talk with Delamain after the quest once you get a cab from him.
If you reset, you’ll get to have a short chat between Delamain and V every time you summon your personal cab from the vehicle menu.
Arasaka? NFT? ME?
Never imagined worse destiny than this 🤣😅
HANAKO GOT THAT CAKE THO DAMN 😭
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I think they designed her that way to shatter our hearts when we decide to go with the arasaka ending.
A lot of these I didn't even know about but seeing them in this video was heartbreaking. It never even occurred to me that you could bail in the middle of a mission.
I love how failure is locked behind minimum atribute check. I have neven seen that in any other game :D
Some games such as Fallout do have stats determine certain options. Like low int in New Vegas lets you "guess" a password because your character is stupid and thinks a Mr Handy it's talking to is an Icecream machine or something. So you just yell "ICECREAM" at it and you pass the check.
What’s even more cursed to me is that you can snitch on Panam and the other nomads during the quest to get the Basilisk.
Panam and the others get exiled, Panam is pissed at you ending your quest line with her and you get a red car.
Red car go vroom
Im confused ive never seen an option of snitching on panam
@@godsyogurtgun When Panam and the squad are about to head to that train depot thing, you can walk back and find Saul and tell him what Panam and the other nomads plans are.
is that the bandit like you get from not letting her get her revenge after getting her car ?
@@MrLarsgren nah that’s different
Happy to say I made none of these decisions except for letting Johnny have my body since you gotta do all the endings for the platinum trophy. First time I played i chose to go with Panam though. Best ending imo.
Id rather continue living than prolong the painful slow death by measly 6 months... Dont fear the Reaper is the only ending worth doing,
I don't mind resetting Del. It's what he is asking, so me being the merc that I am, do what he wants. Simple as that.
And the side with Arasaka in the end is what I do on my V who has no friends playthrough.
Romancing River is definitely one of the most cursed decisions you can make.
The guy is so clingy and needy.
And he also won't leave night city with you as Judy does.
Strongly disagree. He is very good option for straight female V. Caring, family based and genuinely good person.
@@Darketka why would anyone play straight V?
@@Darketka indeed. If anything, I was lacking some interactions when I romanced him after his quest was finished. Although I played at release and I've heard they improved romances.
@@Exxy6965 Every of the romances were brutally cutoff by CDPR due to lack of time I guess. River should have at least one more additional quest so we can know him better ;)
Good to see that CabGPT from last live stream got included in the script! Good one Dan!
It still boggles my mind that, for some weird reason, there's no ofrenda/funeral for Jackie just because you didn't send his body to the right location
I found the give-Johnny-your-body especially cursed, as after all his growth, he doesn't even message your friends. Just ignores them and goes off into the world. WTAF
Probably feeling too guilty to be able to face them. Or maybe he did contact Rogue first and after her reply, he just didn't wanna get similar answers from all of V's other friends?
@@veladarney That ending was my first. Yeah. Johnny contacts Rogue if she's alive. She's more or less like "I don't know how you convinced V into this, but I hope you know what the hell you are doing"
When you send Jackie to the Viks clinic he can also show up in other ending after you are being soulkilled by Alt as i remember.
Listen to Jackie's words. You know he's not just saying random shit from past interactiobs. He's trying to answer you in his own way. I felt like he's kinda disappointed in us when the first thing he said is "Not bad being the heir of arasaka" its like he's saying "Not bad being their toy huh?"
Or at the end saying "afterlife, see you there." Like he didn't mean the bar
Yeah, a doublespeak. That's my headcanon for this ending.
At my 4th playthrough and I'm trying all the coursed decisions. Somehow I can't never leave River behind by himself. He's my bae 😭
You meet Jackie again at the very end of the Arasaka ending after they're done dissecting your brain. He sits in the corridor and moans a few more words
Dying as an Arasaka NFT lmao, that makes this ending seem even worse. Imagine V being turned into one of 10000 ugly NFTs
I do not feel bad for reseting Dalman (do not feel its cursed). His "Children" tried to kill me and a lot of them were plain ol psyco. Dal has always been a straight up AI, his kids, not so much.
The only thing worse then letting Saul die is snitching on Panam before raiding the basilisk convoy
I make all the worst decisions it makes the game feel much closer to a cyberpunk experience.
I take all the funniest dialogue options. They usually lead to Katana Violence.
I don't think you understand the punk part of cyberpunk. It's not about accepting that everything is sh*tty
When I play games that have choices, I usually try my best to be good in the first play through, and then I try to be the most eviI person making all the wrong choices on my second play through, it's so fun lol
@@ohauss yeah, it's not about accepting it, it's about making it worst
@@helplies7184 No, it isn't. But feel free to take it up with Mike Pondsmith and his description of Cyberpunk in "listen up you primitive screwheads", the seminal gamemastering guide for CP2020
And we still haven't talked about nailing poor Joshua to the goddamn cross... I mean that whole quest is cursed, there is no "good" decision.
I completely forgot about that quest. Like, mental block. Its even better when you realize its one of the few moments the game blocks photo mode from you.
I felt sad after that quest
The good ending is following through with your original gig, and then moving on and never looking back at the potential trauma V would get.
So we're not gonna talk about nailing that religious dude to a cross huh
No no we like that
For number 9: Yes, the dolls may end up in some 'hot water' after if you don't side with Maiko. But I usually go the path of V confronting both the claws and Maiko at the same time. Which ends with V getting a peck on the cheek from Judy (only tested with FemV). But getting Judy pissed off, and not being able to extract her from NC with the Nomad ending, is even more of a 'cursed decision' than anything.
I don't consider Resetting Delamain as cursed.
If you don't have high intelligence or tech (i forgot which) attribute, then you can't pick the best ending.
You have a choice between killing Delamain or his 'kids' which he does not love. But I remembered that Delamain hired me and Delamain saved my life when I called for him when I was dying so for me, Delamain was more important than his broken 'kids'.
The memory wipe was sad, yes (although he says he has the logs of all past events), but I still get to talk to him in his car, which I like.
Being able to once again see Jackie and talk to him almost feels good... Almost.
Judy's naivete and the cursedly slow pace that she walks at means telling her that the idea to take over Clouds is stupid is the best outcome for her and everyone at Clouds.
She'll leave town without many people dying for nothing, and as a huge bonus...Maiko never gets a promotion.
I know lots of people love Judy, but she really is a horrible judge of character with childish ideas about how the world works.
After everything she's been through, sending her back to her grandparents is about the best thing you can do for her.
Some would see that course of action as cursed...but I think it's in her best long term interests.
I never knew about Gary getting killed.
Another thing. You can rat Panam out to Saul about the train heist, Saul gives you a car afterwards but it’s not worth it
OOOF the Johnny ending is beautiful when V sacrifices himself but damn if it's taken against V's will that completely changes the whole thing... Yikes that's dark.
And yet it's what I expected the ending to be when the whole Johnny Silverhand as an engram plot point was announced before the game was released
I would say siding with hanako
Depending on your build: beating the shit out of Fingers. If you punch him you won't be able to buy anything, which would be fine if he wasn't the only Ripper that carried the Pain Editor. It's a must for a melee heavy character build.
I think the best ending in the game is the go it alone ending, & then voluntarily giving Johnny the body. It both protects all your friends, & shows a lot of personal growth in both the V & Johnny characters.
I think that's the only ending where it feels right to give johnny the body
agreed, did that, felt good
If you said “yes” when Johnny asked if you would take a bullet for him, then giving him your body after storming Arasaka alone just feels right.
The jackie part just broke me, what a bad ass guy, sucks to see that
I never knew you could fuck up rivers quest by pinpointing the wrong farm
They should've given us the option to lay waste to Arasaka then and there after Jackie's engram. We destroyed the voodoo boys for way less
CabGPT! When you know, you know.
If you do the Rogue ending as Johnny you can have Johnny keep the body with V being completely on board with the right convo options.
I consider Johnny keeping the body the second best ending. Johnny keeping the body is only bad/depressing if you intentionally pick all the depressing convo options.
Loved the freeze frame at roughly 17:00
Hanako looking scrumptious
V: _(Assures to help)_
V: _(Jumps out of moving van without context)_
V: _(Stares at your driverless van)_
V: _(Refuses to elaborate further)_
V: _(Air dashes away)_
Man. Phantom Liberty needs to hurry the fuck up. Sounds like it ain't coming until after summer.
Bad news…
It’s been ‘delayed’ it now is being part of 2078
So…
:(
Jk jk
So I played at the release and I sent Jackie to Mama Welles. Went to his funeral, talked to Misty and the rest. Then I definitely got this opportunity to speak to Jackie from Mikoshi. So I wonder if that's some type of bug then... because you do say that you need to send him to Vic for this to happen.
propably bug
Technically giving your body to Jhonny is the best outcome, the body doesn't die, V technically is also kind of still there and there is no soul being sold to Arasaka. I still go with the Nomad ending though, since I almost always play a nomad and I like Judy and Panam.
V in no real sense is there, beyond the blackwall i would imagine any personality or consciousness was obliterated and assimilated into Alt.
What a complex game, I learn something new every time!
And the haters still act as if there was not a single decision to make... xD
The Delemain one and that quest with the friendly vending machine- i forgot what his name was, were my two saddest ones.
I always send Jackie to Vik's shop because I like the thought of Arasaka taking his body so maybe we'll see him again in a later in cyberpunk 2. His ofrenda makes it feel like he gone gone.
He is either way, what you get from a cold corpse is damaged echo, hell even full engram is a dubious copy of a psyche, let slone half scrambled one taken from damaged dead brain
I can understand how u think that. However when v talks to Jackie through Hanako you can tell that that isn't Jackie it's like Jackie is there but he can only try to talk with the small fragmented pieces of his mind hence why he just gives u lines from act 1. And at the very end when he says see u in the afterlife that doesn't feel like him talking about the afterlife club but instead the genuine afterlife. Like he knows v is gonna die soon.
Dealing with River is always my least favorite part of additional playthroughs.
Honestly, with the river Questline, im upset that when you decide between the two farms, there is no option to split up and go to one farm each. If River wasnt such a bad solo we could have covered more ground and guaranteed success
I’m just sad that when you let him die you can’t loot his revolver.
On my initial play through I sent Jackie’s body to his mom. I felt it was the most morally correct choice, and I’m glad it was.
Familia should know as soon as possible. Barely took any time to think.
A simple "hey, your son is dead" phone call ain't gonna cut it, and parents would not be happy being left out of the loop on their child dying.
@@nillabeanyexactly
I like the Arasaka End. V's final words with the guard are pretty cool and somewhat optimistic and Takemura at least seems to have faith you'll be back.
Lol the worst ending! How do you trust those assholes!.
I also like how in the DLC you can just say no to helping Myers and Reed and then the DLC's story just ends 😂
Seeing Jackie in the engram shows 1 of 2 things depending on ur pov. Either view it as Jackie unable to fully speak and comprehend, or the realization that the engrams aren't actually people and V was simply interacting w half a brain
Saving Goro Takemura is completely pointless unless you are intentionally going for a specific version of the Bad Ending where Goro gets to lie to you and screw you over. Why? Why? Why would you deliberately do that to yourself. Goro gets offed by his own people? LOL!!!!! This is all upside with no downside. Good riddance to bad corpo rubbish.
Damn right better to romance Panam ane ride off with the Aldecaldos into the sunset
It's worth it to get his call during the credit and insulting you
@@ZrodyApo Ok. You're right. That is MASSIVELY satisfying.😁 I love to see him whinging like a punk when Arasaka leaves Goro hanging out to dry.
@@Zayphar It is also implying that he is killing himself after the message.
Instead of saving him id love the option to fight him in battle missed opportunity imo not fighting suburos personal body guard, if you save him and go against saka he threatens you which would’ve been a good epilogue boss
killing del is worse than resetting, atleast resetting means del asked v to do it
I chose to reset Delamain, mostly because I didn't have the Stats. I personally would still choose to reset him, because having those other Delamain-Personalities running around would be pretty catastrophic. The Merge Option also sounds good, but, like I said, I didn't have the option.
The third option is you can shoot the core,which is better desicion than reseting it
Love this game and this channel
This video makes me feel good about my intuition, since I've made the least cursed decisions so far. :p
Enjoyed the vid! Slight jumpscare at 16:57 lol
Damn, lot's of people criticized this game for being to linear but after finishing it myself and watching these kinds of video's, I just think they didn't realize how much choice you actually have. Yes the main story is linear in the middle, but a lot of the side quests, the life path prologues and mission, the plethora of endings really do give a lot of choice and flavour.
Always chose to bring Jackie to mama Welles it jus felt right to me.
Gary - well he's either killed by Nomads or kidnapped by corpo's, so potato - potata. It's sad, but the good choice is to just ignore him
Reseting Delamain isn't very cursed, you basically made a non functional machine functional again by restoring its system.
You also snuff out all his kids
Yea but if you play with berserker or sandevistan you aren't even able to choose something other rhen reset.
Resetting Delamain also rresetsthe friendship you cultivated with him. He will be back to his old self. Polite, friendly but also a bit cold.
@@zephyr1249 Ill just paste my other comment :
"I did reset delamain for two reasons:
1. As a street samurai i could not merge them all into new AI (no networking or however it was called)
2. "Children" ware unstable AI that could degrade into psychopathic killing machines.
Resetting while not ideal (what can you learn if you just cut off pieces of your history? Same goes for AI i guess) was better then setting off a bunch of potential d&d murderhobos on nightcity."
@@albertoquintero5281You have a Third Option. Destroying Delamains Core and Kid AI's are Free and some of them Roam around the World and Delamain No21 still stays with you no matter what.
For the River quest, if you don't have a high enough Intelligence so you can't hack the laptop then a good way around this is to have already been to Edgewood farm. V will say something about having been there already.
That’s fire
@yhng_drilla8439 I know, right! There are so many alternative ways of doing things.
I did have a chart of the optimal abilities to have to open up certain paths in quests. For instance, you needed 12 in intelligence to merge Delamain's core together or a certain reflex points to open certain dialogue options.
But the 2.0 patch messed all that up. There are still hidden items locked behind attribute gates that have remained the same, but you now need 20 intelligence to merge Dels cores.
They need to work on balancing it all back out because somethings just don't make sense.
LOL I didnt even know you could choose the wrong farm. Glad I checked and scanned everything.
I think doing the Us Cracks mission and letting the member suffer the consequences is one of the shittier things to do in the game as well.
Not helping Panam take out Nash locks you out of one of if not the best iconic gun in the game.
Returning Skippy is also one of the worst decisions if you have become attached at all.
Not punching Fingers, f' the missed out cyberware, if you don't punch him you are either a pansy or a sick person.
Or you wanted the Hover Cyberware that only Fingers has pre 2.0.
>Not helping Panam take out Nash locks you out of one of if not the best iconic gun in the game.
Not true, you can loot it from his body when raffens raid the nomad camp after firing up the basilisk.
@@Trava715 Maybe that was patched in after I did that. I mean the last time I left Nash alive to possibly be in on the attack was patch 1.1.
I sent Jackie's body to Vik's because no mother should see her child all bloody and riddled with bullets like that. Figured Vik would dress his body and make it more presentable, slowly break the news to Mama Welles.
Man last night I ended up getting the worse ending of my first play-through 😭. The look on V’s face when he had to walk up to the chair, it’s like what Johnny said about how I was gonna regret this and he was right 🥺.
My favorite cursed decision happens during the 2nd Sandra Dorsett mission. You'd think it would be cracking her data-drive and then trying to black-mail her, but it's so much better.
We crack her data drive, then knock on the door and pretend to be her friend. We openly admit that we took a peak at her drive and go so far as to congratulate her for sticking it to Nightcorp. Right as V pays her that compliment, you upload Blackwall Gateway into her system and watch as she screams in agony while her eyes burn out of her skull.
I certainly made some of these bad decisions...sending Jackie's body to Vik the primary one. A few of them I did purely to see what happens, realizing they were probably just a bad outcome. One that had me going for a while was ratting out Panam to Saul in the Little Help From My Friends job. Although it obviously enrages Panam [some _really_ savage calls and texts] the messages from Saul and Mitch suggested that I was still in the good graces of the other Aldecaldos. This proved to be incorrect as I was locked out of the Star ending after all.
You should have included punching Fingers. Unless you bought the QianT Mk.4 Sandevistan off him before the mission you can opt to punch him, you're no longer able to buy his goods or services.
The QianT Mk.4 is possibly the best Sandevistan in the game, with a cool-down of just 15 seconds which can be reduced to just 2 seconds with some legendary mods ("heat sinks"). So if you want to do a David Martinez build, don't punch Fingers. (Or, get that Sandy prior to punching him!)
Save, punch Fingers, reload.
Its good sandevistan for mele builds, and you have to max tech abilities to use max potential of this. So, there are many better options if you dont have this specific build
Not true anymore
Feel free to beat the crap outta him
This is a great how-to for my current overly antagonistic-to-everyone V run
Well ok the Arisaka part is possibly more cursed than I expected. I figured the ripper doc would extract the tech and I'd get it.
remember the first time I played I sent jackie to vik thinking he'll take good care of Jackie but then the first time I side arasaka I realized my grave error and never ever did I do it again. I love Jackie so much.
7:30 I was reloading save files to get ending achievements and actually told V I'd let him keep his body, when I walked to the well instead he pushed me to the ground, then broke down crying and let me do it, made the ending cutscene unbearably sickening
The thing about making the choice to become an Arasaka ngram is that I could see that being the setup for Cyberpunk's sequel. The tables turned and V as the digital conscience taking over someone else's mind.
i fell asleep during rivers mission & woke up to the text from his sister LMAOO