Update: After speaking with Asus they believe the Prime X570-P ran cooler than the TUF Gaming X570-Plus because it has a better heatsink. The Prime features a slightly larger heatsink with more cut outs (fins) so it’s a little more efficient. This led me to believe adding a third power stage per phase doesn’t really improve efficiency and after speaking with Buildzoid this appears to be the case. Basically, he said there’s little difference in terms of efficiency since the VRMs are already very efficient, we’re talking about a 1-2% difference here. He also noted that there's a pretty hard limit on how efficient a VRM can be, so the heatsink is making the difference here. So strange choice by Asus but I believe they wanted to market the TUF as a 12-powerstage board, as people take that to mean 12-phases. Once again thanks to Buildzoid for his input, if you want to check out his channel link is in the video description.
FYI there's a small typo, the Asus Prime didn't use 'Level 1' LLC as that's not an option, I used 'Extreme' which is the highest LLC level. I actually mixed up the LLC name for the Asrock and Asus boards, anyway both used the max setting.
Hi Steve great work as usual exellent and exellent videos. I am not sure if you had the chance to look at msi x570 MPG gaming plus which is sold for around $169. Thanks and keep up the good work.
Indeed! The surface-area makes or breaks a heatsink. Even a really big, fat heatsink can perform terribly if its surface-area is small, whereas a smaller, lighter heatsink can be a huge improvement just simply by increasing the surface-area with lots and lots of fins on it. Not a lot of people seem to understand the importance of surface-area, though, or what it even means.
As a part time reviewer and a consumer myself, I would like to thank Hardware Unboxed once again for taking the time to uphold the best interest of the consumers.
Yep MSI does seem to have dropped the ball on X570. Their lower end X570 boards overheat due to bad VRM cooling. Their midrange boards are meh. The X570 Creation had one of the worst boost results in recent Ruzen 3000 boost analysis and and the Godlike is both expensive and has nonsensical I/O and feature set for enthusiast board. Oh and MSI lags behind others when providing new BIOS versions based on AGESA 1.0.0.3ABB. Others released this weeks earlier. MSI is still in Beta. Plus they tried to save pennies with original B450 and then had to scramble and re-release thiose boards with bigger capacity BIOS chips that negated any savings from using the smaller ones before. Truth be told their BIOS is the biggest in size for some reason compared to others.
Just because B450 boards have VRM that works well on 8 core CPUs doesnt mean it's any good for the 12 core or even the 16 core, yet MSI forgot about that
MSI jus shovels a lot of crapware and occasionally has a gem or two of products, but they're cheap so they get the dollars. no one building comps that cares about design/quality use MSI.
@stalker The failure was that two of the memory chips only got a half sized TIM and run much hotter than they had to. Gamers Nexus swapped in two full sized pads and the temperature went down radically. It's such a bonehead move no one can understand why they did it. The cost difference is so small that it's ridiculous. With any luck they've seen the reviews and changed it, but even so the damage has been done, and the only way they can get people to forgive would be by acknowledge that the made a mistake and that they've corrected it. But I wouldn't hold my breath. Truth be told I don't expect this to cause much of a problem in normal use, but it might become a problem if you try to overclock.
@stalker As you can read from the comment below @ Blahorga Slisk they used half sized thermal pads in a couple of memory chips, resulting in really high memory temps (not gpu temp).. May not be a problem in a well ventilated case, but what's the cost for MSI of 2 thermal pads? Why don't use well sized TIMs? Bha..
I do lots of video editing. I live in the caribbean and dont have air con so temps here are always on the high side. These videos are very important to me for my investments in pcs and the like. Thanks much.
@@cla1814 Laptops are the worst way to go in that scenario anyways. If you compare side by side performance of a laptop vs the performance given by a desktop pc with a decent air cooler, you will find out that laptops get really behind
@@joseangelmoreno5776 good to know, I was worried about choosing wrong case because it had poor thermals :) I am buying a desktop part by part currently
@@cla1814 So do I! I actually bought the case first, a Phanteks P400A Digital Edition. In case you haven't bought your case, take a moment to check it out on TH-cam. I decided it was the best way to go when it comes to airflow (as I live in Nicaragua and it's hot over here) while still getting a decent looking case.
Looking at the Asus board with the at 4:56 and again at 5:30 you can see the VRM heatsinks with better cutouts, and what looks like pretty solid contact with the actual VRM - some of the others look like they leave it partially exposed. This would make a huge difference, as you saw. Possibly also the 'tough four stage' VRM may be more efficient that many more smaller stages, or at least output less raw heat for a given load. Just saw you addressed this in your pinned comment, with input from Asus no less! Good stuff!
I followed your reports in a previous video which was bench-marking thermal along a couple of X570 motherboards and i ended with the Gigabyte X570 Aourus Elite and so far no disappointment at all so i highly recommend people to take in account your awesome reports/benchmarks quite seriously
Tell me about it mate. My Z170 (2015) is starting to crap it's pants. BDPROCHOT reared it's ugly head. I solved that issue in my bios but now another problem came up with PL1. Been a tough past month for me.
You should check MSI bioses for B350,B450,X370,X470 if you want to see real shitstorm. About half of their boards is partially broken or dont even post with latest *beta* bios. Meanwhile all other vendors have updated all boards multiple times. Maybe asus didnt fix all but they are still doing much better than msi which offers just broken bios from 2 months ago.
I have an MSI 970A Pro Carbon that is nothing but problems, been researching new boards and new CPUs. I don't overclock and the damn thing will lock up. Restart and not run a game and it will lock again. Running multiple fans and increased the fan speeds. Since I am on a budget looks like the ASUS will be the way to go.
I bought this board too in late July and so far it seems pretty solid (aside from lack of features, which I don't need anyway), I decided to go with it after watching Buildzoid's video on this board.
@@tinocabral4201 no need to wait for B550, since i think the mobo makers will re launch the B450 mobos but witn updated bioses, again its not the same but its gonna do the job no prob
Well if the cheap x570 boards are already nothing to write home about i don't even want to know how bad the b550 lineup is going to be... Grab an x470 or x370 board while you can. I've seen crosshair VI go for 120 bucks.
Wow! Hardware Unboxed! This is an extremely useful guide for anyone who wants to make an educated purchase into the X570 platform. Very glad I waited abit for more info and testing around these new motherboards, as my 'local tech review' source was severely lacking and confuzzled. And ofcourse it is HardwareUnboxed that comes through with the most helpful consumer guide i've seen for years! As expected. Ty.
This is great content and vital for many of us. During this summer, ambient temperatures inside were hovering around 30 degrees Celsius where I live. Good thing I listened to you guys and got a B450 Tomahawk board, which worked perfectly during the heatwave. A good motherboard is so important for a stable, solid PC!
Iv had no issues with my MSI X570 A Pro in a recent build. VRM temps don’t get over 70 even in full blender and stress testing. I’m using with the 7 3800x so not all out top end CPU but still very happy overall with performance.
I have a 3800x on a the MSI MPG X570 GAMING PLUS it looks just like the MSI X570 A Pro i was looking to get a R9 5900 i was running Prime 95 and Cinebench VRM temps never got over 51c in a 29c room. we will see what happens when I put he 5900 on there. cooling it with a Corsair Hydro Series H115i i might be getting a good amount of air over the VRMs with the fans..
At least they backed their claims up with very accurate stats. That's more than could be said about AMD, and Intel marketing plenty of times, so I forgive ASUS. :)
I am running a RYZEN 3600 with the MSI x570 a pro and 3600mhz 2x8gb Corsair lpx DDR 4. The MSI Dragon centre overclocks the CPU to 4.2ghz from the get go. The CPU voltage stays in the low 1.3s V. The MOS temp haven't been over 65c. My mid size ATX case is decked out with fans. I don't benchmark, manual overclock or render videos. All I do is game and record music with a DAW. I haven't had a single issue with the MSI x570 a pro thus far. If you are on a budget or do not extreme overclock/benchmark or run 95watt RYZEN, this mobo is perfectly fine.
Well, at least they came back and made up for it with the X570 and B550 Tomahawk models, which are very good. Msis B450 boards were also quite good as well, no idea how they managed to fuck up the early model x570s this badly.
@@johnsmith-gs4qf Apologies. His name is Buildzoid from AHO. He's a guy who talked about MB compatibility and @GamersNexus linked to him. Let me find the link...th-cam.com/video/zuyuS04lD4o/w-d-xo.html
@@LarryAsberryJr Buildzoid didn't like this board (Prime X570-P) for lack of features, but in his other video he then says he like this board for its price and solid vrm.
You are doing gods work. I recently upgraded to a new build.. from a Q6600, yes a core 2 quad. Got a 3700x on an Asus x570 TUF Gaming wifi. Great choice, a classic style board with all the new stuff. Thanks man!
I for one am glad that I bought the ASUS Prime X570-P after watching Buildzoid's video on this motherboard, I decided to buy it for 4 reasons, 1: Ryzen doesn't seem to have much OC headroom, 2: Prime X570-P is cheapest X570 board, 3: Buildzoid said in his video that this board has solid vrm (same as a $300ish Maxmius XI Hero), 4: I don't need all the features from more expensive boards. Currently have paired this board with the Ryzen 7 3700X running all core 4.3Ghz @ 1.43125v, G.Skill DDR4 3200Mhz with tighted timing from CL16 to CL14, reduced latency down to 71. After seeing how well this motherboard perfermed in this video, I'm very very glad I decided to go with this board, BIG thanks to Buildzoid!!!!
Ive been waiting for weeks, to see VRM temperatures from boards: Gigabyte X570 Aorus Master MSI MEG X570 ACE ASUS ROG Strix X570-E Gaming. I hope to see these soon. Thumbs UP if you want to see these too! 👍
This came just in the right time since I'm just about to build a new rig and I was considering the MSI board. Asus it is then, thanks a lot for the great work you're doing!
I use a MSI X570-A-Pro with a 3700X. In my Test with 88W power to the CPU I got a stabilized 62°C after half an hour of testing in a closed enviroment. How much Watt forces the board to get that high temperature? In my Case the temperature of the mos goes from idle 44°C to 62°C wich results in only +18°C for +(88-30)W = +58W of power. If it scales linear a 3900x with +(144-30)W = +114 should be at around 80°C. So your power input was at around 200W+?
I am actually in the market for a white colored board and unfortunately there are only a couple choices. I appreciate the comparisons and tests you run on the VRM for these boards. I like the PRIME series from ASUS due to the use of white. I think I'll shoot for the the ASUS PRIME X570-PRO as it looks to have a beefier heat sink than PRIME X570-P, which according to your tests, performed fairly well.
"Who knew board makers had fans?" A few month ago I came across something I've never thought I would in the tech scene.... An Asrock hater... He asked for help to choose a new motherboard but insisted he doesn't want an Asrock board no matter what. The world is a strange place.
Well back then Asrock was rather cheap and often lacked quality. I guess this somewhat stuck with their reputation. I used to have the same opinion on Asrock. But it changed positively on the last ~5 years after following the hardware tests.
I pretty much blank them and for good reason. They can't make a good amd board to save thier life. NOW you get some boards with amazing mosfets like the best you can get..but the bios suck. Watch a buildzoid asrock video and no matter how good thier components choice there will *always* be a problem. Even if the board is generally okay in build and refinement it'll lack features. Like thier 990fx killer boards that pretended to be a 12 phase when actually they're just a 4 phase and people try and overclock on them (jayztwocents) and then they're surprised when the board and cpu die. Does this look like a premium 990fx board like the crosshair5 and gigabyte UD7? motherboarddb.com/media/images/Asrock/990FX%20Extreme3/990FX_Extreme3-1.pngUp until ryzen (so am2, amd2+, am3, am3+..) thier amd boards just sucked, MOST of thier boards they cheaped out and only had 5 sata ports and never fitted the 6th on £125 boards, If they're cheaping out on a sata port where else are they cutting corners? Bear in mind they started as a spin-off of asus, if you had money and wanted quality.....you might aswell just buy asus. if you dont then you might aswell be buying foxconn in effect. Intel boards weren't so bad but thats because intel cpus drew sod all power and had the chipset integrated so the motherboard did nothing other than be a hub for the port to connect everything. But for the most part the extra 5% you'd save by going asrock would come back and bit you in the ass. Remember when rx480s were killing motherboards pcie slots? Asrock motherboards go look. Consider this... 2 of thier Z390 boards that you'd put a £500 9900k into have a 3 phase vrm. They have another 3 boards running uP9521 chips 2 of which are a 4 phase and the other is a 5 phase. Meanwhile gigabyte and asus are doing 6+ phases with doublers. Thats intel how about AMD? MOST of thier 300, 400 and 500 series boards only have 3 or 4 phases, For x570 thier creator board uses an IR35201 in 6 phase and atleast it has doublers butt he rest are all intersil 4 phases with doublers, Not the end of the world but when Asus and MSI on the high end have 6+ phases with 50>60>70Amp smart mosfets, Gigabyte have upto 14 real phases, it leaves allot to be desired and when you're spending allot of money on a system and the competition (on average) does better for the same money you'd have to be nuts.
Although they have the same VRM, MSI A-Pro and X570 Gaming Plus have different Heatsinks. Gaming plus apparently has bigger sinks. Using the x570 Gaming Plus with a Noctua D15 I did some 90 minute testing on Prime 95 with a 3700X and the maximum VRM temperature was 51 degrees. In games it is maximum at 41 degrees. Using a 3900X it seems hard to reach 110 degrees in MSI gaming Plus, from 51 degrees to over 110 is too far away. Or does the 3700X to 3900X make such a difference for the extra cores?
I bought the Asus X570-P with the Ryzen 5 3600 after watching this video.I just had in mind to upgrade later on to a second hand Ryzen 3950 (or smth like that), so this video was perfect for my questions. Thank you so much for your effort you are putting in for your tests👍👍👍
Master's price is nothing compared to Xtreme tho. Im planning on going with Master myself as it retains most of the Xtreme feature set while being nearly half the price. And it compares favorably with others in it's class like Hero.
@@oalonsoig2012 not had any problems I fitten 3 front fans to my case blowing airbover the mb and straight into the back of the blower on the 5700xt temps are way cooler than he said
i put together a x570-a pro with a 3800x w/default cooler. the 3 noctua case fans i have provide good enough airflow to mitigate the heat in my setup, along with my typical room temp being in the 23C-28C range. but i am running everything at stock speeds with no real plans to OC, so YMMV.
The explanation is quite simple. The third powerstage on the TUF simply isn't needed at this level of power draw. You need to overclock harder or use a 16 core chip. At some point the TUF will set itself apart from the Prime.
True enough, unless you plan to do some extreme overclocking, even the Prime X570-P's vrm can probably run the 3950X just fine, according to Buildzoid in his video on that board.
I bought my Asus P x570 mb a while back and chose it because I wanted to have access to PCIe gen 4 capabilities and the price. All the other boards were much higher and I got this one for $149 shipped. I didn't do any research because I had always had good luck with Asus. I have never had any issues with it and temps have always been good. I am only running an 5600x so this board's VRM is way more than capable to handle it well. I looked on Amazon via your link and the board now goes for $239. I guess I made out like a bandit for both the best budget x570 MB available and the price.
I have the Gigabyte X570 Gaming X with a 3700X and am very happy with it. Not much reason to get one of the most overpriced models. Though I'm blown away by the Asus Prime X570-P's thermal performance, holy shit. It basically turns most of asus's lineup irrelevant. Thanks for the vid, man.
Great review, all the VRM thermal reviews have been super helpful. Don't suppose you could test the VRM thermals for the USD$260-300 range of motherboards like the Asus ROG STRIX X570-F or X570-E Gaming, and the GIGABYTE X570 Aorus Pro WIFI or non-WIFI with a 3900X please? They both have USB type C on the back panel as well as front panel capability. Would also love VRM thermals for the Gigabyte X570 Aorus Master (about USD$355).
The ASUS prime x570p is a wonderful board if you dont require lots of features. Recommended for 24/7 server build. Researched this VRM before buying and this video shows the research paid off very well.
Idk how MSI A pro is going to do on my city with around ambient 38-45 degrees. I was thinking to buy that board so thanks for making this kind of videos. Saved my ass.
You could also buy Crucial Ballistix Sport LT 3000MHz CL15 or 3200MHz Cl16 2x8GB or 2x16GB as it is now they have best perfomance per $ ratio cause they overclock really well even 2gen ryzens to 3600MHz with 14-14-19-14-32-56 and 560-576 TRFC on 1.40-1.48V.
@@Kestrelms woooaa sounds pretty good, but yeah shame on me I just skipped all the Non-Rgb rams... And went directly to the rgb and now I want to return the Corsair and try the TridentZ NEO 3600 cl16 what you think? (Amazon gotta hate me)
@@AmateurTroll69 I will say that is not worth, they're so cheap and doing so great job unless it is necessary you shouldn't buy more expensive ram. If you meant F4-3600C16D-16GTZN those are based on bdie chips and doing lower sub timing and trfc than those micron edies from Crucial, but it is worth 1fps more in 100+ fps so absolutely not worth it. F4-3600C16D-16GTZN - $177, Crucial sticks $73 for 2x8GB 3200MHz or $140 for 2x16GB 3200MHz rather easy choice and saved $100 you can use on either better cpu or gpu.
@@rdmz135 Yeah, ram is doing 3800CL16, but not all 3rd gen ryzens apart from 3900X which is binned a bit higher can stand that in 1:1:1 infinity fabric divider, still the most common number is 1800MHz and 1900MHz is harder to achieve. Those chips are also doing 4000+ on intel, on 3rd gen ryzens too, but there is latency penalty so it is not worth.
Now part two. MSI MEG X570 ACE, ASUS ROG STRIX X570-E and X570-F GAMING, GIGABYTE X570 AORUS ULTRA, MSI MPG X570 GAMING PRO CARBON WIFI, ASUS PRIME X570-PRO, GIGABYTE X570 AORUS PRO and ASROCK X570 EXTREME4.
ASUS slide, hahaha, the BALLS on these guys. MxI, Gxxxbyte, hahaha, i LOVE IT ! Trashing the competition, while avoiding being sued, brilliant ! Wasn't even aware of those slides until now, thanks Steve. Had a good laugh !
While that particular slide may be correct, many of the others were full of straight up lies. I recommend watching Buildzoid's video on them, where he goes through each slide and points out all the garbage. AMD themselves told ASUS to take the slides down.
@@isakh8565 I'm not looking to buy x570 at the moment. I'm already on x470 with an R5 2600X. And even if i were, i'd not pay attention to marketing slides, and instead do my due diligence by researching. Reviews, here, GN, Buildzoid for mobos, etc. I'm mostly following x570 out of curiosity, thus not as thoroughly.
Been running the MSI X570-A Pro since 2020-03 with a 3900X and havent had any kind of issues with it. I personally think you also need to take into account if you ever are going to do any OC or not. Dont recommend an expensive board to someone who isnt going for OC, recommend one that works which MSI X570-A Pro does. I went with this due to the price difference here in Sweden between this board and all other boards at that time.
hi unboxed hardware .. I tell you that I watch your videos from Argentina. and not having a very fluent English, sometimes I don't understand. I am very interested in your channel and I would like to know if you can put the option of Spanish subtitles to continue watching them.
@@pimmanders2261 all right . I will learn English . And you want to learn Spanish? . It is easier to add subtitles to the video in Spanish. let's use technology, since I don't need to learn your language .. I love this channel and I wanted to enjoy it fully
As a fellow Aussie running the Prime X570-P I can assure that VRM temps are crucial under Australian conditions. I used to run the MSI X570-A Pro and on hot days it was pretty much throttling all the time and you had to put up with the fans screaming at full speed. Definitely prefer the Prime X570-P.
ive got the msi A-pro, the vrm never goes above 53c when stress testing cincebench for 30 mins to an hour. cpu never downclocks from 4.4gzh either over 8/10 hour gaming sessions. maybe it's worse of in warmer countrys?
I already ordered a Ryzen 7 3700X and Asus Prime X570-P 6 hours ago, just now watching this video I am thankful for making the right choice, it was either the Gigabyte X570 Gaming X or the Asus X570-P. Gonna be interesting to see this upgrade because I'm still on Intel's Haswell i7 4790K and jumping straight to Ryzen 7 3700X right off the bat.
@@HeadshotTBH works perfectly. The small blower fan on the motherboard chipset doesn't even spin up because of the low temps. As for the motherboard and the processor, they work just fine and much better than my old setup. I'd recommend the Prime X570-P.
@@kitmanevo i have only Ryzen 7 3700x and the vrms are not near that temps...the high i see in my case is 50 degrees so i really whant see with a 3900 in open bench
Same here, so happy I bought the Prime X570-P after seeing Buildzoid's video. AMD recently said they are working on a new BIOS to fix the boost issue, but that probably only means it will hit the target boost clocks more often (or sustained at the boost clocks), probably not likely to go over the boost clock much as they have pretty much maxed it out already.
if you dont want to lose time with mounting those parts to a computer case just create a room with air conditioner and run the open test machines in it.. i love y'all btw. Best hardware channel on earth imo.
Dion Miller the theory should be that the MAX board have only seen a BIOS chip change, possibly slightly different aesthetics, but function should not be different
Can't wait for the final video in this roundup, with the MSi X570 Ace, Asrock X570 Taichi, Asus Strix X570-E, and Gigabyte X570 Aorus Ultra. Great job as always Steve!
The VRM temps are indeed of interest. I live in central victoria and the 30C+ temps in summer are on the low side :) Got the Asus THEN watched this vid. Glad I don't much like MSI, coz the board looks quite nice, and a great space heater.
I built my new PC with the Gigabyte X570 Gaming X two weeks ago - luckily, I can use the power of Canadian weather to keep it cool if I decide to replace this 3600 in the future!
I’m glad I went with Asus prime pro. Knowing that the prime model does this good on that beast of a cpu makes me feel better that I can upgrade and not worry
I have the MSI MPG gaming plus and had no issues with it whatsoever. For me it's been a great board. Coupled with a Ryzen 5 5600x and RX6900XT it smokes all games 1440p Ultra. Got it for a great price so I'm happy with my purchase.
damn.. i just bought the MSI X570-A Pro yesterday... if i'm able to return it I guess i will go with the Asus Prime instead. It gets really hot during the summer after all...
I refuse to pay more for my motherboard than my CPU. Hence passing on x570 completely. My B350m mortar arctic has been running like a dream with the 3600.
Yeah unless you really need a super fast NVME SSD there are really no benefits to it, and they easily cost 2-3 times as much as the 300 and 400 boards.
When my 6 Y/o PC died (it was the psu but I didn't check enough) I ran to the retailer in my city and bought the asus prime x570-p, a ryzen 5 and 16 gb ram, 4 months later I was wondering if the mb was a good option since I didn't research, Im so glad it was.
Update: After speaking with Asus they believe the Prime X570-P ran cooler than the TUF Gaming X570-Plus because it has a better heatsink. The Prime features a slightly larger heatsink with more cut outs (fins) so it’s a little more efficient. This led me to believe adding a third power stage per phase doesn’t really improve efficiency and after speaking with Buildzoid this appears to be the case.
Basically, he said there’s little difference in terms of efficiency since the VRMs are already very efficient, we’re talking about a 1-2% difference here. He also noted that there's a pretty hard limit on how efficient a VRM can be, so the heatsink is making the difference here. So strange choice by Asus but I believe they wanted to market the TUF as a 12-powerstage board, as people take that to mean 12-phases.
Once again thanks to Buildzoid for his input, if you want to check out his channel link is in the video description.
FYI there's a small typo, the Asus Prime didn't use 'Level 1' LLC as that's not an option, I used 'Extreme' which is the highest LLC level. I actually mixed up the LLC name for the Asrock and Asus boards, anyway both used the max setting.
Hi Steve great work as usual exellent and exellent videos. I am not sure if you had the chance to look at msi x570 MPG gaming plus which is sold for around $169. Thanks and keep up the good work.
@@angelportalatin4078 The Gaming Plus uses the exact same VRM as the Pro and Gaming Edge, so it will suck :(
Indeed! The surface-area makes or breaks a heatsink. Even a really big, fat heatsink can perform terribly if its surface-area is small, whereas a smaller, lighter heatsink can be a huge improvement just simply by increasing the surface-area with lots and lots of fins on it.
Not a lot of people seem to understand the importance of surface-area, though, or what it even means.
Have you tested the mid range $200 to $300 boards? That's what I wanna see
As a part time reviewer and a consumer myself, I would like to thank Hardware Unboxed once again for taking the time to uphold the best interest of the consumers.
Seriously, amazing info for consumers. Thanks guys
But the B450 tomahawk and b450 pro gaming carbon where so good..., what have Msi done!
Dropped the ball, tripped over their own foot and face planted into the ground.
@@Hardwareunboxed hahahah
Yep MSI does seem to have dropped the ball on X570. Their lower end X570 boards overheat due to bad VRM cooling. Their midrange boards are meh. The X570 Creation had one of the worst boost results in recent Ruzen 3000 boost analysis and and the Godlike is both expensive and has nonsensical I/O and feature set for enthusiast board.
Oh and MSI lags behind others when providing new BIOS versions based on AGESA 1.0.0.3ABB. Others released this weeks earlier. MSI is still in Beta.
Plus they tried to save pennies with original B450 and then had to scramble and re-release thiose boards with bigger capacity BIOS chips that negated any savings from using the smaller ones before. Truth be told their BIOS is the biggest in size for some reason compared to others.
Just because B450 boards have VRM that works well on 8 core CPUs doesnt mean it's any good for the 12 core or even the 16 core, yet MSI forgot about that
MSI seems to be slipping in quality. Just look at the memory module thermal pad issue on their RX 5700 XT Evoke OC.
Really a hard time for MSI.. from the RX 5700 XT Evoke with small thermal pads to the worst generation x570 motherboards..
MSI jus shovels a lot of crapware and occasionally has a gem or two of products, but they're cheap so they get the dollars. no one building comps that cares about design/quality use MSI.
Not to mention their old b450 motherboards still don't have a stable BIOS for ryzen 3000 cpus.
@stalker The failure was that two of the memory chips only got a half sized TIM and run much hotter than they had to. Gamers Nexus swapped in two full sized pads and the temperature went down radically. It's such a bonehead move no one can understand why they did it. The cost difference is so small that it's ridiculous. With any luck they've seen the reviews and changed it, but even so the damage has been done, and the only way they can get people to forgive would be by acknowledge that the made a mistake and that they've corrected it. But I wouldn't hold my breath.
Truth be told I don't expect this to cause much of a problem in normal use, but it might become a problem if you try to overclock.
@stalker As you can read from the comment below @
Blahorga Slisk they used half sized thermal pads in a couple of memory chips, resulting in really high memory temps (not gpu temp).. May not be a problem in a well ventilated case, but what's the cost for MSI of 2 thermal pads? Why don't use well sized TIMs? Bha..
Don't forget the mech oc which is loud af as well
I do lots of video editing. I live in the caribbean and dont have air con so temps here are always on the high side. These videos are very important to me for my investments in pcs and the like. Thanks much.
@@rawdez_ i would need to own the building first
Have the exact same issue living in Caribbean and no air conditioner. This is one of the reasons I prefer laptops.
@@cla1814 Laptops are the worst way to go in that scenario anyways. If you compare side by side performance of a laptop vs the performance given by a desktop pc with a decent air cooler, you will find out that laptops get really behind
@@joseangelmoreno5776 good to know, I was worried about choosing wrong case because it had poor thermals :) I am buying a desktop part by part currently
@@cla1814 So do I! I actually bought the case first, a Phanteks P400A Digital Edition. In case you haven't bought your case, take a moment to check it out on TH-cam. I decided it was the best way to go when it comes to airflow (as I live in Nicaragua and it's hot over here) while still getting a decent looking case.
Not a potential buyer, but ill watch any ways
OK!
A VRM heatsink that weighs 50% more than Intel's CPU cooler.
*Intel has definitely left the chat*
Looking at the Asus board with the at 4:56 and again at 5:30 you can see the VRM heatsinks with better cutouts, and what looks like pretty solid contact with the actual VRM - some of the others look like they leave it partially exposed. This would make a huge difference, as you saw. Possibly also the 'tough four stage' VRM may be more efficient that many more smaller stages, or at least output less raw heat for a given load.
Just saw you addressed this in your pinned comment, with input from Asus no less! Good stuff!
I followed your reports in a previous video which was bench-marking thermal along a couple of X570 motherboards and i ended with the Gigabyte X570 Aourus Elite and so far no disappointment at all so i highly recommend people to take in account your awesome reports/benchmarks quite seriously
This board keeps coming up with good reviews. I appreciate the comment, I'm pulling the trigger today.
Between the MSI evoke thermal pads and these motherboards it isn't looking too good for MSI.
Tell me about it mate. My Z170 (2015) is starting to crap it's pants. BDPROCHOT reared it's ugly head. I solved that issue in my bios but now another problem came up with PL1. Been a tough past month for me.
You should check MSI bioses for B350,B450,X370,X470 if you want to see real shitstorm. About half of their boards is partially broken or dont even post with latest *beta* bios. Meanwhile all other vendors have updated all boards multiple times. Maybe asus didnt fix all but they are still doing much better than msi which offers just broken bios from 2 months ago.
Their B450 max boards are selling faster than they can make them though so they're probably good
I have an MSI 970A Pro Carbon that is nothing but problems, been researching new boards and new CPUs. I don't overclock and the damn thing will lock up. Restart and not run a game and it will lock again. Running multiple fans and increased the fan speeds. Since I am on a budget looks like the ASUS will be the way to go.
Sweet! I just purchased the Asus X570-P yesterday. It was the X570-P or the Tuff. I like the X570-P for it's plain aesthetics; fits my build.
Have you tried OC? Hows the performance so far?
@@papapaulrocks the tests in the video were done with an over clock
@@atodaso1668 ohh cool! Thanks for pointing that out.
I bought this board too in late July and so far it seems pretty solid (aside from lack of features, which I don't need anyway), I decided to go with it after watching Buildzoid's video on this board.
@@Sesami7814951 what features do you lose?
I live in Malaysia and yes, ambient temperatures can reach as high as 35C here. So, definitely lower VRM temps are a great benefit here too.
Time to ghetto mod your boards, with old cut up heatsinks
I really love the VRM diagrams. I wish that other tech channels would include visuals like this.
I'll be waiting for B550 motherboards. Great job, keep up!
3lectronic0 I want to do the same, do you have an idea of when they will release?
@@tinocabral4201 no need to wait for B550, since i think the mobo makers will re launch the B450 mobos but witn updated bioses, again its not the same but its gonna do the job no prob
@@tinocabral4201 First quarter of 2020, they want to sell all the B350 and B450 motherboards first.
Well if the cheap x570 boards are already nothing to write home about i don't even want to know how bad the b550 lineup is going to be... Grab an x470 or x370 board while you can. I've seen crosshair VI go for 120 bucks.
@@givemeajackson Oof no kidding...
Wow! Hardware Unboxed! This is an extremely useful guide for anyone who wants to make an educated purchase into the X570 platform.
Very glad I waited abit for more info and testing around these new motherboards, as my 'local tech review' source was severely lacking and confuzzled.
And ofcourse it is HardwareUnboxed that comes through with the most helpful consumer guide i've seen for years! As expected.
Ty.
Thanks for the frequent high quality info Steve 👍😀👍
Just bought a X570 A-PRO and then watched this... I can't say I didn't cry a little.
remember this is without airflow....with it you ll never go over 65c
This is great content and vital for many of us. During this summer, ambient temperatures inside were hovering around 30 degrees Celsius where I live. Good thing I listened to you guys and got a B450 Tomahawk board, which worked perfectly during the heatwave. A good motherboard is so important for a stable, solid PC!
Iv had no issues with my MSI X570 A Pro in a recent build. VRM temps don’t get over 70 even in full blender and stress testing. I’m using with the 7 3800x so not all out top end CPU but still very happy overall with performance.
I have a 3800x on a the MSI MPG X570 GAMING PLUS it looks just like the MSI X570 A Pro i was looking to get a R9 5900 i was running Prime 95 and Cinebench VRM temps never got over 51c in a 29c room. we will see what happens when I put he 5900 on there.
cooling it with a Corsair Hydro Series H115i i might be getting a good amount of air over the VRMs with the fans..
Love the comment about the Asus slides@14:40. Got to gives them credit even though the slides were shit.
At least they backed their claims up with very accurate stats. That's more than could be said about AMD, and Intel marketing plenty of times, so I forgive ASUS. :)
I am running a RYZEN 3600 with the MSI x570 a pro and 3600mhz 2x8gb Corsair lpx DDR 4.
The MSI Dragon centre overclocks the CPU to 4.2ghz from the get go. The CPU voltage stays in the low 1.3s V. The MOS temp haven't been over 65c.
My mid size ATX case is decked out with fans. I don't benchmark, manual overclock or render videos. All I do is game and record music with a DAW.
I haven't had a single issue with the MSI x570 a pro thus far. If you are on a budget or do not extreme overclock/benchmark or run 95watt RYZEN, this mobo is perfectly fine.
Lmao that thumbnail though
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@@Hardwareunboxed is lit 🔥🔥🔥
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miss this guy
MSI seems to be selling a bunch of less than optimal products recently. Disappointing.
Recently as in the last 20 years.
Well, at least they came back and made up for it with the X570 and B550 Tomahawk models, which are very good.
Msis B450 boards were also quite good as well, no idea how they managed to fuck up the early model x570s this badly.
Wow the Prime is surprisingly good
I currently own the Asus Prime X470 Pro and it is a good board. I know Buildzoid isn't a fan of it but it is quite good.
@@LarryAsberryJr Buildozer?
@@johnsmith-gs4qf Apologies. His name is Buildzoid from AHO. He's a guy who talked about MB compatibility and @GamersNexus linked to him. Let me find the link...th-cam.com/video/zuyuS04lD4o/w-d-xo.html
@@LarryAsberryJr Buildzoid didn't like this board (Prime X570-P) for lack of features, but in his other video he then says he like this board for its price and solid vrm.
You are doing gods work. I recently upgraded to a new build.. from a Q6600, yes a core 2 quad. Got a 3700x on an Asus x570 TUF Gaming wifi. Great choice, a classic style board with all the new stuff. Thanks man!
G'day Steve,
🤔 Should we be calling you the Motherboard Proctologist after probing all those Motherboard Backsides?
I for one am glad that I bought the ASUS Prime X570-P after watching Buildzoid's video on this motherboard, I decided to buy it for 4 reasons, 1: Ryzen doesn't seem to have much OC headroom, 2: Prime X570-P is cheapest X570 board, 3: Buildzoid said in his video that this board has solid vrm (same as a $300ish Maxmius XI Hero), 4: I don't need all the features from more expensive boards.
Currently have paired this board with the Ryzen 7 3700X running all core 4.3Ghz @ 1.43125v, G.Skill DDR4 3200Mhz with tighted timing from CL16 to CL14, reduced latency down to 71.
After seeing how well this motherboard perfermed in this video, I'm very very glad I decided to go with this board, BIG thanks to Buildzoid!!!!
Ive been waiting for weeks, to see VRM temperatures from boards:
Gigabyte X570 Aorus Master
MSI MEG X570 ACE
ASUS ROG Strix X570-E Gaming.
I hope to see these soon. Thumbs UP if you want to see these too! 👍
Also waiting for this, especially the MSI MEG X570 ACE
I would love to see HUB do a deep dive on the Meg Ace. I'm running one now with the 3900x and it has been stellar so far.
Just see other websites like Tomshardware.com techpowerup.com
Strix E has better vrm than Strix F.
MSI B450 Tomahawk Max is the best bang for your buck in 2020!
I just bought the b450m mortar max and the 3600, and called it a day. Thank god I only build to play games.
This came just in the right time since I'm just about to build a new rig and I was considering the MSI board. Asus it is then, thanks a lot for the great work you're doing!
Dann the asus Prime x570-P looks really tempting now
Very epic thumbnail🤣
Shit Kicker OMEGALUL
Its hot
and with an msi motherboard haha
@@melancholiadementia MSI on fire😉
Its even hoter than linus 😏
I use a MSI X570-A-Pro with a 3700X. In my Test with 88W power to the CPU I got a stabilized 62°C after half an hour of testing in a closed enviroment. How much Watt forces the board to get that high temperature? In my Case the temperature of the mos goes from idle 44°C to 62°C wich results in only +18°C for +(88-30)W = +58W of power. If it scales linear a 3900x with +(144-30)W = +114 should be at around 80°C. So your power input was at around 200W+?
It was 3900x overclocked and tested without any air flow.
I am actually in the market for a white colored board and unfortunately there are only a couple choices. I appreciate the comparisons and tests you run on the VRM for these boards. I like the PRIME series from ASUS due to the use of white. I think I'll shoot for the the ASUS PRIME X570-PRO as it looks to have a beefier heat sink than PRIME X570-P, which according to your tests, performed fairly well.
"Who knew board makers had fans?"
A few month ago I came across something I've never thought I would in the tech scene.... An Asrock hater... He asked for help to choose a new motherboard but insisted he doesn't want an Asrock board no matter what. The world is a strange place.
Well back then Asrock was rather cheap and often lacked quality. I guess this somewhat stuck with their reputation. I used to have the same opinion on Asrock. But it changed positively on the last ~5 years after following the hardware tests.
I pretty much blank them and for good reason. They can't make a good amd board to save thier life.
NOW you get some boards with amazing mosfets like the best you can get..but the bios suck.
Watch a buildzoid asrock video and no matter how good thier components choice there will *always* be a problem.
Even if the board is generally okay in build and refinement it'll lack features.
Like thier 990fx killer boards that pretended to be a 12 phase when actually they're just a 4 phase and people try and overclock on them (jayztwocents) and then they're surprised when the board and cpu die.
Does this look like a premium 990fx board like the crosshair5 and gigabyte UD7?
motherboarddb.com/media/images/Asrock/990FX%20Extreme3/990FX_Extreme3-1.pngUp until ryzen (so am2, amd2+, am3, am3+..) thier amd boards just sucked, MOST of thier boards they cheaped out and only had 5 sata ports and never fitted the 6th on £125 boards, If they're cheaping out on a sata port where else are they cutting corners? Bear in mind they started as a spin-off of asus, if you had money and wanted quality.....you might aswell just buy asus. if you dont then you might aswell be buying foxconn in effect.
Intel boards weren't so bad but thats because intel cpus drew sod all power and had the chipset integrated so the motherboard did nothing other than be a hub for the port to connect everything.
But for the most part the extra 5% you'd save by going asrock would come back and bit you in the ass.
Remember when rx480s were killing motherboards pcie slots? Asrock motherboards go look.
Consider this... 2 of thier Z390 boards that you'd put a £500 9900k into have a 3 phase vrm.
They have another 3 boards running uP9521 chips 2 of which are a 4 phase and the other is a 5 phase.
Meanwhile gigabyte and asus are doing 6+ phases with doublers.
Thats intel how about AMD?
MOST of thier 300, 400 and 500 series boards only have 3 or 4 phases, For x570 thier creator board uses an IR35201 in 6 phase and atleast it has doublers butt he rest are all intersil 4 phases with doublers, Not the end of the world but when Asus and MSI on the high end have 6+ phases with 50>60>70Amp smart mosfets, Gigabyte have upto 14 real phases, it leaves allot to be desired and when you're spending allot of money on a system and the competition (on average) does better for the same money you'd have to be nuts.
Thanks mate, upgrading my fx8350(280x17 4.76ghz 1.392v) to a 3600x and had settled on the asus prime, put me at ease on the vrms for sure!
Although they have the same VRM, MSI A-Pro and X570 Gaming Plus have different Heatsinks. Gaming plus apparently has bigger sinks. Using the x570 Gaming Plus with a Noctua D15 I did some 90 minute testing on Prime 95 with a 3700X and the maximum VRM temperature was 51 degrees. In games it is maximum at 41 degrees. Using a 3900X it seems hard to reach 110 degrees in MSI gaming Plus, from 51 degrees to over 110 is too far away. Or does the 3700X to 3900X make such a difference for the extra cores?
Hello i have the same board, average is 65c when gaming on max settigns 1440p, is that fine ? Using 3700x too
@@s.h9365 Hello. Your temperature is still very good. You can play without worry, that's great.
I bought the Asus X570-P with the Ryzen 5 3600 after watching this video.I just had in mind to upgrade later on to a second hand Ryzen 3950 (or smth like that), so this video was perfect for my questions.
Thank you so much for your effort you are putting in for your tests👍👍👍
That thumbnail is legendary!
I have the cheapest x570 model of ASRock the Phantom Gaming 4 and so far it's working like a charm. No complaints.
Went with the X570 Auros Master.
Didn't want to take any chances.
Yeah good choice
Good choice, but paradoxically it seems to missing on Steve's list :P [EDIT] should have watched until the end first, my bad sorry Steve (y)
I wanted this one but the price is absolutely ridiculous lol
I ended with the Elite which got pretty nice thermal results from them, so far so good :)
good luck with Gigabyte software
Master's price is nothing compared to Xtreme tho.
Im planning on going with Master myself as it retains most of the Xtreme feature set while being nearly half the price.
And it compares favorably with others in it's class like Hero.
Pro4 user here and I like it a lot.
The gigabyte x570 UD seems to be an even more cutdown board that they released below the gaming X model Steve.
279 AUD vs 309 AUD
**Quickly buys the fucker before prices on the x570p skyrocket like that of the tuf x570 gaming**
i just purchase the msi x570 a-pro and a 3700x/prism cooler 5700xt and i had no problem ,i have great air flow cannot fault the board
How is the x570 a-pro doing, I also bought it but after this video I'm scared
@@oalonsoig2012 not had any problems I fitten 3 front fans to my case blowing airbover the mb and straight into the back of the blower on the 5700xt temps are way cooler than he said
@@R53rockstar Awesome, I'm getting the NZXT Noctis 450 case which comes with 3 front fans and 1 in the back. That should do it
i put together a x570-a pro with a 3800x w/default cooler. the 3 noctua case fans i have provide good enough airflow to mitigate the heat in my setup, along with my typical room temp being in the 23C-28C range. but i am running everything at stock speeds with no real plans to OC, so YMMV.
The explanation is quite simple. The third powerstage on the TUF simply isn't needed at this level of power draw. You need to overclock harder or use a 16 core chip. At some point the TUF will set itself apart from the Prime.
True enough, unless you plan to do some extreme overclocking, even the Prime X570-P's vrm can probably run the 3950X just fine, according to Buildzoid in his video on that board.
I was considering the MEG ACE for a potential 3950X build, so I hope you are able to test it!
I bought my Asus P x570 mb a while back and chose it because I wanted to have access to PCIe gen 4 capabilities and the price. All the other boards were much higher and I got this one for $149 shipped. I didn't do any research because I had always had good luck with Asus. I have never had any issues with it and temps have always been good. I am only running an 5600x so this board's VRM is way more than capable to handle it well. I looked on Amazon via your link and the board now goes for $239. I guess I made out like a bandit for both the best budget x570 MB available and the price.
I have the Gigabyte X570 Gaming X with a 3700X and am very happy with it. Not much reason to get one of the most overpriced models. Though I'm blown away by the Asus Prime X570-P's thermal performance, holy shit. It basically turns most of asus's lineup irrelevant.
Thanks for the vid, man.
I bought X570 gaming edge wifi and petrified with the result 😶
Great review, all the VRM thermal reviews have been super helpful. Don't suppose you could test the VRM thermals for the USD$260-300 range of motherboards like the Asus ROG STRIX X570-F or X570-E Gaming, and the GIGABYTE X570 Aorus Pro WIFI or non-WIFI with a 3900X please? They both have USB type C on the back panel as well as front panel capability. Would also love VRM thermals for the Gigabyte X570 Aorus Master (about USD$355).
Please do MSI x570 CARBON - give msi chance to redeem itself at least in mid range boards. Lets hope Carbon has different vrms than edge
The ASUS prime x570p is a wonderful board if you dont require lots of features. Recommended for 24/7 server build. Researched this VRM before buying and this video shows the research paid off very well.
What a time to be alive Steve!
Thank you so much for this video, i was afraid about these budget X570 lol
Idk how MSI A pro is going to do on my city with around ambient 38-45 degrees. I was thinking to buy that board so thanks for making this kind of videos. Saved my ass.
I just returned my 3900 to Amazon and got the 3700 and the rest I invested on corsair 3600 ram :) couldn't be happier
You could also buy Crucial Ballistix Sport LT 3000MHz CL15 or 3200MHz Cl16 2x8GB or 2x16GB as it is now they have best perfomance per $ ratio cause they overclock really well even 2gen ryzens to 3600MHz with 14-14-19-14-32-56 and 560-576 TRFC on 1.40-1.48V.
@@Kestrelms woooaa sounds pretty good, but yeah shame on me I just skipped all the Non-Rgb rams... And went directly to the rgb and now I want to return the Corsair and try the TridentZ NEO 3600 cl16 what you think? (Amazon gotta hate me)
@@Kestrelms running mine at 3800 16-19-8-17-36-56-560
@@AmateurTroll69 I will say that is not worth, they're so cheap and doing so great job unless it is necessary you shouldn't buy more expensive ram. If you meant F4-3600C16D-16GTZN those are based on bdie chips and doing lower sub timing and trfc than those micron edies from Crucial, but it is worth 1fps more in 100+ fps so absolutely not worth it. F4-3600C16D-16GTZN - $177, Crucial sticks $73 for 2x8GB 3200MHz or $140 for 2x16GB 3200MHz rather easy choice and saved $100 you can use on either better cpu or gpu.
@@rdmz135 Yeah, ram is doing 3800CL16, but not all 3rd gen ryzens apart from 3900X which is binned a bit higher can stand that in 1:1:1 infinity fabric divider, still the most common number is 1800MHz and 1900MHz is harder to achieve. Those chips are also doing 4000+ on intel, on 3rd gen ryzens too, but there is latency penalty so it is not worth.
Now part two. MSI MEG X570 ACE, ASUS ROG STRIX X570-E and X570-F GAMING, GIGABYTE X570 AORUS ULTRA, MSI MPG X570 GAMING PRO CARBON WIFI, ASUS PRIME X570-PRO, GIGABYTE X570 AORUS PRO and ASROCK X570 EXTREME4.
You wonder what MSI are doing..its like they havent tested their own boards.. like wtf
same was with their 970 boards for AMD FX cpus
Yes, I am a potential buyer. MSI MPG X570 Gaming plus is just fine (Not included in this video)
ASUS slide, hahaha, the BALLS on these guys. MxI, Gxxxbyte, hahaha, i LOVE IT !
Trashing the competition, while avoiding being sued, brilliant !
Wasn't even aware of those slides until now, thanks Steve. Had a good laugh !
While that particular slide may be correct, many of the others were full of straight up lies. I recommend watching Buildzoid's video on them, where he goes through each slide and points out all the garbage. AMD themselves told ASUS to take the slides down.
@@isakh8565 I'm not looking to buy x570 at the moment. I'm already on x470 with an R5 2600X.
And even if i were, i'd not pay attention to marketing slides, and instead do my due diligence by researching. Reviews, here, GN, Buildzoid for mobos, etc.
I'm mostly following x570 out of curiosity, thus not as thoroughly.
I have an X570 Gaming Edge from MSI. I’ve had it for a month now, and it has presented ZERO issues, even after a decent overclock on my Ryzen.
Where's MSI x570 ace? Looking forward of your review for that mobo.
I was just about to order that MSI board and watched this last minute. Thanks for the save.
Any b450 boards you could test with the 3900x?
Why would you even put a ryzen 9 in a budget board thats stupid lmao
@@Rainbow__cookie why not? Nothing stupid about it
@@Rainbow__cookie Future proofing? People are probably buying 3600s and want to know if down the line they could upgrade to a more powerful CPU.
Been running the MSI X570-A Pro since 2020-03 with a 3900X and havent had any kind of issues with it. I personally think you also need to take into account if you ever are going to do any OC or not. Dont recommend an expensive board to someone who isnt going for OC, recommend one that works which MSI X570-A Pro does. I went with this due to the price difference here in Sweden between this board and all other boards at that time.
hi unboxed hardware .. I tell you that I watch your videos from Argentina. and not having a very fluent English, sometimes I don't understand. I am very interested in your channel and I would like to know if you can put the option of Spanish subtitles to continue watching them.
Maybe do a course in english?
@@pimmanders2261 all right . I will learn English . And you want to learn Spanish? . It is easier to add subtitles to the video in Spanish. let's use technology, since I don't need to learn your language .. I love this channel and I wanted to enjoy it fully
As a fellow Aussie running the Prime X570-P I can assure that VRM temps are crucial under Australian conditions. I used to run the MSI X570-A Pro and on hot days it was pretty much throttling all the time and you had to put up with the fans screaming at full speed. Definitely prefer the Prime X570-P.
Steve is the sexiest computer parts reviewer!
Is it awkward that I'm the only one who up-voted this comment?
@@Hardwareunboxed not anymore
Hardware Unboxed but where was the heart react? ;)
Don't forget about Tim with the chest hair out, he's a sexy beast!!!
As a fellow Aussie, in the winter, its no more than 20 degrees Celsius and in summer it is at least 30 degrees Celsius normally 40, thanks so much
Bro should I buy the msi x570 a pro?
Definitely get it as its goes well with the AMD ryzen 5 3600.
ive got the msi A-pro, the vrm never goes above 53c when stress testing cincebench for 30 mins to an hour. cpu never downclocks from 4.4gzh either over 8/10 hour gaming sessions. maybe it's worse of in warmer countrys?
Thankfully, even 2 case fans and/or an air cooler will make all the boards easily pass this test with a 3900X OCed.
not if you live with a 30c ambient temp...
@@FellTheSky Even then it will be enough.
@@FellTheSky even with 30c while for 8core vrm temp is much lower
@@razoo911 we're talking 12/16 cores
I already ordered a Ryzen 7 3700X and Asus Prime X570-P 6 hours ago, just now watching this video I am thankful for making the right choice, it was either the Gigabyte X570 Gaming X or the Asus X570-P. Gonna be interesting to see this upgrade because I'm still on Intel's Haswell i7 4790K and jumping straight to Ryzen 7 3700X right off the bat.
How are you finding that setup I've just got the Ryzen 7 3700X and am seriously considering pairing the x570-p with it
@@HeadshotTBH works perfectly. The small blower fan on the motherboard chipset doesn't even spin up because of the low temps. As for the motherboard and the processor, they work just fine and much better than my old setup. I'd recommend the Prime X570-P.
@@bloodshottm Cheers bud :)
Where is the MSI x570 Gaming Plus?!
Lost in the woods, probably. I haven't seen any dicent review or test.
thats what im using, im scared.
@@kitmanevo i have only Ryzen 7 3700x and the vrms are not near that temps...the high i see in my case is 50 degrees so i really whant see with a 3900 in open bench
@@SNE4KZ install hwinfo a look for the temps
@@surpriseblueviana3803 well with 8 core vrm temp is much lower and inside case with airflow even msi will run fine
I'm even more happy now I bought the Prime X570-P. Now if only Zen 2 would boost better.
Same here, so happy I bought the Prime X570-P after seeing Buildzoid's video. AMD recently said they are working on a new BIOS to fix the boost issue, but that probably only means it will hit the target boost clocks more often (or sustained at the boost clocks), probably not likely to go over the boost clock much as they have pretty much maxed it out already.
why did MSI devolve into trash in recent years?
it's now barely better than biostar......
They might be on the path to bankruptcy. Those cost cutting measures and failed engineering attempts often are the first warning signs.
if you dont want to lose time with mounting those parts to a computer case just create a room with air conditioner and run the open test machines in it.. i love y'all btw. Best hardware channel on earth imo.
Simple, u don't buy MSI motherboards 😞
*MSI X570 motherboards. The MSI B450 boards are excellent.
@@jamiecottrell2347 I'm afraid the MAX boards might take after the X570s.
Dion Miller the theory should be that the MAX board have only seen a BIOS chip change, possibly slightly different aesthetics, but function should not be different
The tomahawk and gaming carbon pro are the best b450 boards, period. MSI dropped the ball on their x570 boards.
Can't wait for the final video in this roundup, with the MSi X570 Ace, Asrock X570 Taichi, Asus Strix X570-E, and Gigabyte X570 Aorus Ultra. Great job as always Steve!
Oh right, I forgot they already did the Phantom Gaming X and Taichi, so perhaps the X570 Extreme4 and/or the Wifi AX Version?
The gigabyte is most beautiful 😃
just picked up an asus prime x570 p from micro center and a ryzen 5 3600 cant wait to build it
MSI X570-A PRO!
Like if you have/are getting this board
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I ordered it without watching any videos on it i will be pairing it with a r5 3600 so yeah fml
Thank you. These charts/results are very helpful. I went with the Aorus X570 pro and the 3600. :) Great thumbnail too hehe.
The VRM temps are indeed of interest. I live in central victoria and the 30C+ temps in summer are on the low side :)
Got the Asus THEN watched this vid. Glad I don't much like MSI, coz the board looks quite nice, and a great space heater.
Prime or tuf?
@@kelvinyuri6150 the PRIME-CSM version.
I got my gigabyte auros x570 elite wifi at microcenter for about $140 paired with a 3800x. Was an awesome deal.
I built my new PC with the Gigabyte X570 Gaming X two weeks ago - luckily, I can use the power of Canadian weather to keep it cool if I decide to replace this 3600 in the future!
I nominate This one For Thumbnail Of The Year Award!! Great Job Guys!! Keep up the awesome work!!
Bought the Asus based on ur advice. Throwing my new rig together next weekend.
I’m glad I went with Asus prime pro. Knowing that the prime model does this good on that beast of a cpu makes me feel better that I can upgrade and not worry
Its funny how the asus x570 -p uses the same vrm as the z390 maximus 11 hero
I have the MSI MPG gaming plus and had no issues with it whatsoever. For me it's been a great board. Coupled with a Ryzen 5 5600x and RX6900XT it smokes all games 1440p Ultra. Got it for a great price so I'm happy with my purchase.
I really need help. I am buying a 3700x. Should I buy a x570 asrock pro4 for $160 or a msi b450 tomahawk max for $120??
damn.. i just bought the MSI X570-A Pro yesterday... if i'm able to return it I guess i will go with the Asus Prime instead. It gets really hot during the summer after all...
Thank fuck I watched this, I was nearly going to buy the MSI X570 A pro
Should I get this for my 3700x + 2070 Super?
I have an msi x570 a pro with 3700x overclocked and its not on fire or hot at all so...
I refuse to pay more for my motherboard than my CPU. Hence passing on x570 completely. My B350m mortar arctic has been running like a dream with the 3600.
Yeah unless you really need a super fast NVME SSD there are really no benefits to it, and they easily cost 2-3 times as much as the 300 and 400 boards.
Thank you! I have just recived my prime asus x570 p it has everything I need.
When my 6 Y/o PC died (it was the psu but I didn't check enough) I ran to the retailer in my city and bought the asus prime x570-p, a ryzen 5 and 16 gb ram, 4 months later I was wondering if the mb was a good option since I didn't research, Im so glad it was.