The Faith of the Fathers, with George Farmer
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- George Farmer, the Oxford-educated investment banker, social media wizard and GB News board member, is our guest for this 80th episode of Merely Catholic, the podcast series for the Catholic Herald.
Mr Farmer, husband to the American social media influencer and author Candace Owens and the son of Conservative Party peer Lord Farmer, tells Dr Gavin Ashenden about his journey into the Catholic faith from an Evangelical background. They also discuss the crises facing Christianity and the West in the third millennium.
A man after my own heart. ❤️ ✝️
Congratulations to you both! God's blessings and prayers!
His wife has entered the chat.
Loving his old man "C.S Lewis" sweater. He IS an old soul.
😂Lol
God bless you two forever❤
Such informstive discussion. Love George so much, he's truly beautiful inside and out. God bless you and your beautiful family, expecially the great Candace Owens!!
Gavin is such a capable and enthusiastic interviewer, able to converse intelligently and engagingly with many different people on a myriad of topics
Came here from Candace, you're just as wonderfully articulate as her! Have you thought of making a channel of your own, George?
Candace has said before that George has no interest in the online world of being in the spotlight regularly.
I agree with everything Mr. Farmer said. Excellent interview....
I so much love listening to Gorge Farmer, he is a amazing man, I am so happy he found candace, because he was just what she needed in this world. It gives me hope that really there is something like divine marriages, something designed by God himself.. I hope to meet both of them someday in this life.
Such an exciting interview🙏
If our Catholic Bishops had even half the insight of both of you we would not be in such an existential crisis!
The wonderful thing is that truth cannot be subverted and will eventually be triumphant🙏
I'm so glad God sends us men like you, we in the west definitely need true spiritual teaching. Thankyou.
Simply: thank you!
Blessed be God forever ❤🙏
I was a Baptist for twenty years it took me 14 years of studying to convert to Catholicism it was terrifying. I studied between the late seventies to the 90s i converted on the feast of our lady of mt carmel 1993 and i have a strong connection to the local carmalite nuns
Thank you gentlemen for a very interesting discussion! 😊
Wow! Great discussion. Always enjoy both of these men.
Good to see Candace Owen’s hubby on the show
In America here and story is another version later in life also, but finally found myself home in the Catholic Church!
Truly unique and fascinating interview. Thank you.
The quote from George. "Freedom of speech is the right to persue truth"
Love You both. A cradle catholic here but the love and energy and devotion and pious inspire US all cradle, New, re-converts thank You.
May 🙏 God bless you all this day. Amen.
I really do appreciate the conversations with Mr. Farmer, I woudl hope for much more content from his side about not necessarily his religious path/spiritual journeys, but particularly his bible studies and his readings of the texts. His critical approach for his unfoldings of the biblical texts and the fragments f.e. always rejuvenating his faith, his passion for the ultimate passion. Thank you for this interview. Warm-hearted regards.
This was an insightful discussion between Dr.Gavin Ashenden and George Farmer! I am a new subscriber now for sure!
The potential demonic interference with the audio when Dr. Ashende asked George Farmer about his thoughts on whether another evil force could be at play today had me smiling. Satan knows his enemy.
I found George to be eloquent, measured, coherent, and highly understandable. I hope he continues to try to stay out of politics and focus on the only "party" that truly matters (in this life and the next)!
I also sincerely hope he's considered writing a book/books. I think many people would be interested. His take on the beginnings and falsehoods of Anglicanism, perhaps? Cheers, thank you, and God bless!
Brilliant conversation! On the Freedom topic, I’m reminded of two quotes from two Americans: John Adam’s said, “Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people - it is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.” Lastly, Father Mike Schmitz said, “ Freedom is not doing what you want, but doing what you ought.”
His Romance of Candace is
Romantic!
Excellent❤
I agree with, for the most part. With everything they said. Ave Maria and Viva Cristo Rey.
enjoyed this so much!!!
St Thomas More and Bishop John Fisher are overjoyed for these two.
Outstanding conversation.
Really appreciate this video.
fascinating conversation guys not that religious but love the conversation touching on philosphy, education and slightly touching on history
Sent by Candace 🤎🤎
Great interview.
New Subscriber.
George Farmer is right on the Pope. A lot of people don't understand where he's coming from. We must be faithful to our Catholic Faith and procure unity through prayer and supporting the good doctrine that the Pope has given us in many instances. The doctrine that has been consistent to The Church's teachings and faith. The Holy Spirit is active!
❤ great stuff
Came to see Candace Owens hubby and stayed to be enlightened.
A suggestion for George 🙂-- peruse the seven letters of Rev. 2 & 3 as (now in retrospect) a history of seven sequential periods of time in the church, going from the early, apostolic church (Ephesus) all the way to the end time church, Laodicea. For insight, check out "SEVENS, A Chronology of End Time Bible Prophecy," by Rebecca Berndt. This will help fill in the gap you've been aware of....
Instant sub. Great interview.
A good man, understandable why Candace chose him.
Australia could learn so much about truth 'if' the universities still debated issues. Sadly.
The Australian Universities are controlled by the Chinese - and Xi does not favour debate.
This Is Objective Truth and deep down all men know It the moment they stop lying to themselves .
We need a George Farmer vs Calvin Robinson debate on Anglicanism vs Catholicism. Maybe he could convert Fr Calvin into the One True Church.
CR is now claiming to be essentially catholic. It's very weird. See the latest marshall interview.
@@Danboy0001the only one true church that's mentioned in the Bible, is the church of Christ
@@Dineoish yes, that is the Catholic Church.
@@seanfrancis2It is - but not, necessarily, for every Christian, the Latin Rite of the Western Catholic Church. The Eastern Rite Catholics are still fully part of the Catholic Church and even the Eastern Orthodox Churches state that they believe in the “catholic and orthodox faith”. Yes, every Christian should consider himself to be a catholic, but there is no requirement that every Christian must become, formally, a communicate member of the Western Church of the Latin Rite.
@@seanfrancis2 no.
George = Farmer
= George George
= Farmer Farmer
Good stuff
The BVM, as Our Lady of Good Success had already in 1610, prophesied the presence and ascending of 'the Freemasons' which she had identified by name, before they existed. Pope John XXIII has since been outed as a practising Freemason during his papacy. Pope Leo XIII's vision made into the famous Prayer to St. Michael(full version) indicates the seat of Peter been usurped, by the Antichrist. All that needs taken into account in our time.
Great discussion. Thank you. Subscribed😊
Is there any concrete evidence, at all, that Pope John XXIII was a Freemason? How would this have been possible? His life was lived in the full public gaze, even before he was, Pope, as Cardinal Patriarch of Venice. How on earth could he ever have found the time to comply with all the requirements of joining a Masonic Lodge? How could he ever have attended a Lodge Meeting, without someone noticing? It is a laughable suggestion.
The singular TRUTH is Catholic Church is the one Church founded by Jesus Christ & will Remain So.
When exactly did Jesus create any Church?
He died very young organized churches were found by Saul otherwise known as apostle Paul.
Jesus was against the priestly class.
@@magouliana32 You are Peter and on this rock I will build my Church. Matthew 16:18
@ the original in Greek Ekklisia means gathering place not organized priesthood of humans to represent him.
So all you need is Jesus and his teachings not organised Churches to co opt his teachings and misguide the people.
The problem is most of his teachings have been edited to support an organized system.
Then the Old Testament was added Jesus was against the OT.
Copycat language, but no substance- E Michael Jones said something similar- it’s such a blessing to listen to intelligent Catholics, thank you.
A new saint of the Reformed Church
Life could be a dream if the soul would cease to scheme. Be satisfied with your simple gifts, or find a better in past or future shifts
We're all here because of Candace Owens 😂
Can anyone post a list of books to read that would help me understand this better!
I can recommend 73 - conveniently collected together in a readily available single volume.
I am a Protestant and I was advised to read the following: Jesus and the Jewish Roots of Mary by Brant Pitre, --- Catholicism, A Journey to the Heart of the Faith by Robert Barron, --- The Catholic Catechism, and Principles of Catholic Theology byJoseph Ratzinger. Since the whole Covid debacle, I've been listening and watching Catholic presentations along with my Protestant preachers. I've been watching Fulton Sheen's messages and they are good. I just started reading the first book as this is my first big issue with Catholicism, but honestly, the reason I am looking into all this is I find the Protestant Church to be a total mess here in the US.
@@drewb207 The Catechism is very sound. It would be very useful, if you can afford it, to buy the Divine Office. In England this is a three volume set called “The Divine Office” and, in the USA, is, I think a four volume set called “The Liturgy of the Hours”. This is mainly selected readings from the Sacred Scriptures, but also includes readings from the Church Fathers. As with the Catechism, it is entirely free from error. Then, the Sunday Lectionary and the Week Day Lectionary are valuable resources - it means that you can read the same readings every day as the whole Church is reading. As a Protestant, you are probably more interested in the finer points of Theology, however, the Catholic Church is set up in such a way that the life of the Church is settled by means of the Liturgy - the readings for the Mass of the day, the readings from the Church Fathers from the Office for the day, etc. The life of the Church is centred around the Eucharist - the reason the Mass contains so many set prayers, the Confetior, the Gloria, the Creed, the Angus Dei, the Domine Non Sum Dignis etc is that the Church wishes to keep the Faithful continuously centred around the truths of the Faith. Then, of course, there are the Feasts - not only Christmas, Easter, Pentecost etc but the lives of the Saints etc. This is where the life and belief of the Church is to be found. Looking on from outside, most people think that the basis of the Catholic Church is the dogma of Papal Infallibility. When my father received instruction before he entered the Church, the Priest stressed this as the most important dogma of the Church, apart of course, from the Real Presence. However, this particular dogma was only defined in 1870 and, in the following 150 years has never actually been used. The real centre of the Catholic Faith is not, in fact, the Papacy, but the Eucharist and the dogmatic definitions of the major Ecumenical Councils of the Church over the centuries. In many ways, I am quite envious of the Eastern Orthodox Churches, since they consider that, after the Great Schism of 1054, there could be no further Ecumenical Councils, since such a Council would require every Bishop, from both East and West to attend, as in the past, and this was no longer possible. So, that is their “cut off” - everything remains just as it was in 1054.
An excellent discussion. Those entering the Catholic Church do, of course, face a Church which is in the course of radically changing its beliefs and Theology. At our local Parish, a recent homily espoused the ‘evolutionist” theology of Pierre Teilard de Chardin. This proposes the teaching that we need do nothing - creation will evolve, eventually, to bring about Heaven on earth. This theology includes no concept of sin, repentance, death, judgment, heaven, hell or a final judgement and the destruction of the present creation and a new heaven and a new earth. Love ceases to be considered as a divine and human essential - it becomes part of a universal creative force. The Holy Office condemned this and all other teachings by Pierre Teilard de Charin in 1962. This condemnation was repeated in 2009. However, Pope Francis is rumoured to favour these particular heresies - there is no literal hell, evolution will perfect creation and we shall all end up in the best of all possible worlds, whatever we do and however we may live our lives. So, what do you learned gentleman advise? Should I go to a Church where error, clearly condemned by the Holy Office in 1962 and still officially condemned by the Church is openly preached from the pulpit, deceiving the Faithful and leading them away from the truths which bring salvation? Then, our local Parish is advised that the levy by the Archdiocese will increase by 84% this year. The funds are needed to pay compensation for the victims of sex abuse, legal costs to defend the accused perpetrators of this abuse and to provide homes and pensions for the clergy no longer permitted to serve because of their involvement in such crimes. This is the Church into which converts such as yourselves have come.
Saints of Christ's Holy Catholic Anglican and Apostolic ⚜️ Church intercede for us with Christ our G✝️D Amen.
May the Apostolic See of Cantuar - spared Rome's Babylonian Captivity of anti-popes - long flourish.
Two actually, and their whole production staff and supporters
Palmer said: "We are set free from the bounds of sin via the sacraments". My Bible says something TOTALLY different: "...while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.” (Rom. 5, 8-9)The sacraments of the Catholic Church (Baptism, Confirmation, Eucharist, Penance and Reconciliation, Anointing of the Sick, Holy Orders, and Matrimony) can not free any human being from sin because all this is manmade sacrifices. Rituals can never free a human being from sin. Only through faith in Christ and in His death where He sacrificed HIS blood can we be free from sin: "...and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin." (1. John, 1,7)
God's odds are odder, lest the chosen species become cannon fodder
It would behrlpful l think to have George back on again to talk specifically about ethical "Catholic Economics" and Gavin you seem to have even more jobs than Suzy Sheep does, this interview visibly animated you as well.
There was only ever one Messiah, grown from the seeds of all the little messiah's imaginations
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The first mass was quite an ordeal for God. He never expected to face the Spanish Inquisition for banging two universes
Please have Scott Hann
Dr. Ashenden (you say that you find it overly familiar for others to refer to you as Gavin, although my natural way of referring to a fellow Christian is by his Christian name) and the Hon. Mr Farmer (who might, of course, not be quite so fussy but to whom I shall accord the same level as formality to avoid giving offence) the difficulty which you both face is this. You have entered the One Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church and have agreed to submit to the “Magisterium”. Yet, currently, the “Magisterium” is a Bishop of Rome who wishes to introduce doubt, ambiguity, uncertainty and doubt into the Church. Who uses bad language and, when upbraided for doing so, stubbornly refuses to repent and uses it again. Who is cruel, vindictive and actively seeks to destroy and silence those who uphold the truths of the Faith, for example, Cardinal Burke and Bishop Strickland. Who actively encourages a Pagan Priestess to set up a carved wooden idol in the grounds of the Vatican and who stands by, approving, as her devotees fall down to the ground and worship the goddess of Mother Earth. Who worships that goddess himself, devoting himself to issue such as climate change and the destruction of the rain forest (of some importance, of course, but of no interest to a Christian leader - “let the men of this world be concerned with this world’s affairs”.) So, you encourage devotion and loyalty to such a man. Does that present a problem? Does your encouragement of devotion to such a man actually assist that man in his aim of destroying the Faith by introducing doubt, confusion and ambiguity into the Church? We should be prepared to call a spade a spade. Then, when someone like Calvin Robinson, who wishes to be a good Catholic, says that he could never submit to the authority of such a man himself, because he is seeking to destroy the Faith, you are highly critical of him for not joining you in your devotion and loyalty to such a man. You accuse Calvin Robinson of lack of integrity for failing to submit to the authority of such a man. If you are entirely honest, is there not an element of lack of integrity in encouraging the Faithful to submit to the “Magisterium” of a man Hell bent on bringing the Church to destruction? A hundred years ago, your views might have carried some weight. However, we are now in the Last Days, when Our Lord himself and the Catechism itself says that a “man of sin” will arise trying to lead the Faithful away from the Lord. We live in difficult times and it is not a case of encouraging everyone to submit blindly to the authority of George Bergoglio.
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The only one true church that's mentioned in the Bible, is the church of Jesus Christ. The Bible does not mention any denomination. People no matter where they're from all need to straighten up according to the Bible.
Sounds good, in theory. Some Protestants believe “once save, always saved”. Others believe what the Catholic Church teaches on that point. Neither group like the other group. Some Protestants believe in infant baptism. Some deny that the practice can ever be justified. Neither group like the other group. Similarly, on so many points of doctrine. So, while, in theory, if all Christians did submit simply to the authority of Holy Writ, they would make up one, happy, united Church, experience, since the Reformation, has shown that reality is quite otherwise!
You made the statement of 100,000 protestant denominations. Which has 100,000 faith statements that is the only way you can support that ridiculous tongue-in-cheek statement.
This seems to be one of the common arguments put forward to ridicule non-catholic churches.
Now the disgraceful way some of these protestant churches represent the Jesus of the Bible may be a more compelling argument.
2 Corinthians 11 warns us of the different Jesuses, Gospel and spirit. For the average individual, we have to become as little children to live in the simplicity of the gospel., Paul laid it out in this chapter. I had a TH-cam video about the charismatic movement in the CC. I will post the link below. Maybe you could comment on that delusion.
th-cam.com/video/R_SCHKrQX8M/w-d-xo.html
I posted the link but it has gone behind the hidden wall. Try charismatic Catholics.
It's insulting at the end of the day. 900 million non Catholics are just too "low church" to understand high church?
We're too stupid to seek Jesus and the truth I guess 🤷♀️🙄
Utterly heartbreaking to see his type of thinking.
Not unifying at all how he's spoken about non Catholics.
He was very demeaning of Allie beth stuckey after his debate with her.
@@Toasterkm99 I am an Ex-catholic. Their atrocious history proves they are not what they Claim. Those who didn't agree with their Dogma met an early death at their hands and were mocked while it happened.
@@Toasterkm99 Well said! This was nothing but crude Protestant bashing.
What if St George WAS the dragon, and so was his horse and lance?
He loves to wear heavy sweaters like only an Englishman would. But odd he is wearing it in summer!
An Englishman would not wear a “sweater”. He would wear a “jumper” (in the middle of Winter “a woolly jumper”) or, in this particular instance, a “cardigan”.
@@Mark3ABE Different word but all mean the same thing. George is Americanized now. Left bloody old England and its traditions behind!
@@bluesky7288Well, you may be right. No Englishman would wear a mustard coloured cardy before the age of fifty - no doubt, in the USA, young men wish to look like an old fuddy duddy at a much younger age! Not, I think, a custom likely to ever become popular on this side of the Atlantic!
@@Mark3ABE None of the men in my family would wear these!
@@bluesky7288 I agree. At one time, on attaining the age of fifty, one of the established rituals was buying a mustard coloured cardy - preferably ill fitting. These days - not so much!
Before watching this, I had no idea who Candace Owens was. Everyone on the far right seems to like her - even a few cranks. The man who blew up the mosque in Christchurch said that she was his inspiration! One of the dangers of being in the public eye, I suppose. By the way, George, probably best to wait until you are fifty before donning a mustard coloured cardy.
What kind of person are you, obviously very racist, what do yiu mean by mustard coloured lady, he is married to her already, but I can see the colour of your hatred for blacks, It's pure EVIL
@@eguogwuhenrietta9713He is talking about the colour of his sweater.
Spanish Inquisition ❤ Monty Python ♥ No one expects it! Propaganda ...Some much against the church is Propaganda from Luther and Calvin. So sad. And blasphemy too!
First comment.
The credit card is the ultimate plastic Jesus
King David's personal life wasn't exactly perfect either!!
These two guys need the Orthodox Church, a.k.a. the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church. Come home gentlemen!
How rude.
Poor George. One day he will understand he made a terrible mistake marrying a person like Candace. He could have found a wholesome Catholic.
Well he wasn’t a wholesome catholic himself and converted.Why are you judging?
What do you mean by a wholesome catholic, you sound so bitter, George himself is a convert, what makes someone a wholesome catholic, you speak as someone filled with pride and self righteousness, we are all little children in the sight of God, learning and making effort towards sanctity, no one is perfect.
If you struggle understanding what a wholesome Catholic is, I suggest you read some books. I feel sorry for George seeing the contrast in his behavior and Candace’s. You can tell he is dedicated to his faith and trying to abide by Catholic dogma. Candace, however is in neverending conflict with literally everyone, stirring conflict, acting as some political savant about matters she does not understand, her potty mouth, slander, gossip. These are done deliberately. Who are you to speak about me in such matter. I am no public figure and have given you no personal information for you to state such blatant lies. If anyone is self-righteous, it is Candace. You don’t get more self-righteous than her. Also, there is nothing wrong with being a convert as long as you don’t represent it poorly.
@@truthseeker5602 If you are what a wholesome catholic looks and sound like, then I don't ever want to be Like you, a true catholic builds others up and not tear them down, finds his own faults before finding those of others. I only have prayers for candace and I promise to pray for her as much as I can because she needs our prayers. However, i am confident in God's design for her, she is a warrior per excellence, a warrior in God's kingdom, the mighty hand of God is upon her and at this time, no one can stop her, not even you with your self righteousness. She has heard the prompting of God in her soul, she is the one sounding the battle cry for heaven in this world, and as much as you might not believe it, I will tell you this for free, a mighty Angel has been given to her, She will rise far above all her enemies and all men will see it together, including you. So pray for her more than you criticise her.
truthseeker5602 - you will be judged in the end too. And right now you are showing a heart of complaining, showing disrespect to George Farmer and pointing the finger at others. You should remove the log from your own eye first.
That you Harry Potter?
Hahaha
Your comments go directly to the sin bin.
Protestant response. There is so much misinformation going on here and so much of the standard anti-Protestant caricatures, that I don’t know where to begin to challenge you on your assertions. I will just say that I reject the vast majority of your assertions with regard to the historic Protestant tradition. You are both very bright and well informed gentleman. Surely you can do better than this.
According to Lumen Gentium, Protestants are still going to Heaven, so I look forward to meeting you there! As Pope John XXIII was fond of saying, “the walls don’t reach to heaven”. Since you a I shall be spending eternity together, it might be just as well to be on friendly terms in advance.
@@Mark3ABE How kind of you brother! Fortunately being a Protestant or Roman Catholic has nothing to do with our arrival into heaven. However I totally agree that there will be a great multitude of both in heaven many of whom will be shocked to see the other there. 😉. See this quote from an historic Protestant theological formulary: “The catholic-that is, universal-church consists of the FULL NUMBER of the elect who have been, are, or will be gathered into one under Christ her head. The church is the spouse, the body, the fullness of him who fills all in all.” Blessings friend!
Wasn't Protestantism essentially against the idea of tradition?
@@eliezinaty No. not at all. The problem arose with the idea that tradition is equal in authority to scripture and that it is also infallible. The reformers believed that tradition is not infallible and is subordinate to scripture and subject to correction by scripture. Tradition is not infallible while scripture is. Tradition is authoritative but it is a subordinate authority to the ultimate and only infallible authority namely scripture. Protestants believe that the apostolic teaching was completely enscripturated. None remained in oral form. It was all written down.
@@eliezinaty It varies a lot. Some Protestants do believe in the authority of the first seven Ecumenical Councils (before the Great Schism) because they accept that the doctrine of the Trinity and of the Divinity of Christ and similar doctrines are not clearly set out in the Sacred Scriptures, but only implicit. Essentially, the main tenet of Protestantism is a total rejection of the Petrine Ministry. Some Protestants accept Apostolic Succession and the Eucharist.
The Holy Catholic Church is different from the Roman Catholic Church. Which church does Farmer and his wife belong to? If it is the RC church, then their allegiance is to the Pope, not to God.
This is not the case. While the Pope is the “Ordinary” in the Latin Rite of the West Church and so the Faithful must submit to him in matters of Church discipline, he is not, of course the “Head of the Church”. Jesus Christ alone is the Head of his Church. All Catholics, all Christians, are committed to allegiance to Jesus Christ. As we are warned in Sacred Scripture “Cursed by the man who trusts in man, who makes flesh his arm.” The Pope is only a man - sometimes a good man, sometimes not such a good man. To profess “allegiance” to a mere man would be blasphemous. Nevertheless, he is the “Ordinary” in the Latin Rite, so the Faithful in that Rite must submit to his administrative decisions, whether or not they would have made the same decision themselves, if they had been the Pope. The purpose of an “Ordinary” whether in a local Diocese, or in the larger Church, is to maintain order. The Church does have a human dimension to it and the Faithful must submit to the Ordinary for the purpose of maintaining proper order in the Church.
good straw man brett. Go buy a book or something.
@@MrPeach1 good straw man peach. The rosary and idols are completely contradictory to the teachings of the Bible. You need to read the Bible sometimes and not just depend on the Pope.
@@brettcantrell8650 way to assert something and then not back it up with evidence. But in reality its just a waste of time really in a comment section
The King has His Prime Minister: Peter, the Pope.
god i hope she married the guy on the right
just kidding hihi
Well, I don’t know - Gavin was once a Bishop and George has never quite achieved that, although, it would appear, he is a millionaire. I think that a Bishop trumps a millionaire - even a former Bishop!
I gues still searching....read the quran. You will be amazed