The Lancaster and chester railroad in Lancaster SC owns 8784 now ive seen it paired with 8770 which is 2 of 4 SD60s they have ive filmed them several times love the AC6000s as well!!🤠🤠🤠
Gravelydon, thank you so very much for answering my question. I am trying to learn all I can about railfanning and the duties of the engineer and the conductior
You could make that argument for most things anymore honestly. Having spent almost 19 years working for UP (scary as that is to think about) I've seen a lot of changes over the years. Most of the changes are filed as safety improvements but in reality they aren't for the safety of the crews. It's simply to reduce crew/operational liabilities to the company. Hence why most of the ever changing rules we have to follow do little if anything to actually improve system wide performance. But rather just to micromanage you to death in an attempt to reduce crew liabilities to the company all the while stressing you more and more knowing you have to somehow work faster and safer yet with less and less freedom to do so because you have endless rule book traps trying to limit what you can and can't do. It makes my head hurt just thinking about it. Doubly so since we live in a day and age in the industry where you have to adapt to endless rule changes, yet any infraction is almost a guaranteed termination. I saw the writing on the wall long ago when DPU's were becoming more and more common. The industry is trying to get rid of us in every way that they can. Hence why we are being trained to be more robots then humans in this industry. There's a reason so few new people to the industry last for long. Most can't take it. Can't say I blame them.
There are multiple units but likely only two in actual use. The rest are just along for the ride transferring them to where they’re needed or for repairs. I used to select dynamic brake for those unused locomotives for the extra braking action unless they were tagged out of service.. BNSF engineer (retired)
131 cars being pulled. Nice to let us see them long enough to count them. Nice video. hmmmm. I see a couple of others counted 129. Well darn, that means I am just going to have to watch the whole video again, aww shucks. ha ha love this video
They really weren't a failure. They were simply too powerful for the railroads needs which is why newer versions were never built. When i worked for CSX i ran the AC6000's all the time. Never had any issues. CSX ran them for a long time until they were worn out.
Geez the one gentlemens comment on here which stated that these engines are very powerful & he wasn't kidding that's for sure wow!! That engineer had those engines & loaded freight cars up to speed & then some!
I am from Cumberland, I seen many a train heading out thru narrows with 6 or 7 units. I live in Florida now, a train here has maybe 2 units, never seen one with 3 units.
from what i understand, the bolts mean ac powered, and the double bolts were only put on the ac6000's with their unique paint scheme. but i could be wrong.
+Gary Plastek 12 hours max on duty and that includes any time waiting for a train to get in that they are crew for once they are on the books. 49CFR Chapter 211 covers it. When their time is up even out in the middle of nowhere it is known as " Going on the Law" or dying. The railroad then sends someone out to get the " dead " crew and delivering a replacement crew. Due to problems on the AutoTrain back in June, it got in late to Florence, SC. The crew went on the law a Satsuma FL. Just a little ways away from the Sanford AT terminal. But they were replaced with another crew and they knew it might happen before we got to Jacksonville FL. Only a 30 minute delay.
+gravelydon And the trucking rules stem from the RR rules from as far back as 1907. Long before the CMV rules came in for trucks. Depending on the operations, the FRA can restrict service even more for passenger service.
At 5:36 is that first gray car getting the most strain on it's couplings? I guess starting out slow is key in not to breaking any couplings. But is seems that that first gray car is currently under the most stress. Am I correct here? Thanks.
BaltimoreAndOhioRR : but what about the shock load as the trains takes the slack out of the couplings as the strain builds up speed? Surely, as this occurs down the train, you are going to find the cars going from rest to forty mph in a metre?
this question is for anyone who knows about railroad work, when more than one unit is attached are there crew members on each of the units or just the lead unit?
What the hell ? ? ? All that luggage and shit they haul on and off an engine, you'd think they were going on a 30 day trip instead of an 8 hour shift....... Damn !!!!
Well these guys run 12 hour shifts and sometimes aren't home for days at a time, most of the time they are staying in hotels and moving from terminal to terminal.
12 hours on, 10 hours guaranteed off before you're back on the call back list potentially able to be called right back in for service. It rarely happens that you're called back so soon but it's something you have to plan for. In regards to the crew luggage, after 12 hours your service hours are up meaning it's illegal for you to continue to be in active service. Consequently you don't always terminate your shift near your home terminal leading you to sometimes getting stuck at hotels for extended periods of time waiting for available work to bring you back home. Hence the large amount of luggage. You plan on being away for a while every time you're called in. It's not always the case. But no one wants to be stuck away from home potentially for days with little baggage to make the stay more comfortable. - Almost 19 years working for UP (scary as that is to think about).
Good question: Diesel-Electric locomotives are “bi-directional”, same amount of power is generated in either direction. It is more efficient to leave the locomotive(s) facing there original direction; rather than waste time and fuel to face another direction.
The easiest spotting feature was the "CSX" on the long hood was yellow and not blue and the cab had dual Lightning bolts vs the normal one. And then of course, the numbers. 600 series were the AC6000's. From the rear the MUCH larger radiators were an instant spotting feature.
wow, Im glad i came across this video. assuming all the power was running (it looks like some were not by the exaust caps) it would add up to 44,200 horsepower (6000 x6 + 4400 + 3800(sd60)) even without the 3 6000's its still an insane 26,200
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Nice to see the EMD ex con in the lead!!! That was some serious power!!
Nice video. Great old station and what a great place to watch trains.
Thanks always!
That's one beautiful station building.
Thanks always!
The Lancaster and chester railroad in Lancaster SC owns 8784 now ive seen it paired with 8770 which is 2 of 4 SD60s they have ive filmed them several times love the AC6000s as well!!🤠🤠🤠
Gravelydon, thank you so very much for answering my question. I am trying to learn all I can about railfanning and the duties of the engineer and the conductior
Wow 13 years ago! Time sure flies. Great old video. I miss the old 6000s.
Same here!
Nice catch on the crew change plus nice old station backdrop, thanks for sharing 👍
Thanks for watching & commenting!
its a power move folks. they use 400 to send power from the south to Cumberland for PM and repairs.
Wow that's an incredible amount of power on that manifest, excellent video👍🏼
Yes! Thank you!
As a little kid i used to love watching trains! Id say hi but the loud horn from the locomotive trains scared me away😭😭
Went to the archives for this, well worth it.
+shnimmuc thx! I've got lots of archives 😉
8 locs and a super long train. Fantastic !!!
And 129 cars!
Nice! Look at the amount of pulling power the put on this train.They even have AC6000's!
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8 engines and 128 trailers it's beautiful
Nice catch on the SD60M and those AC6000's :D
Thanks always!😃
An ex-Conrail SD70 and 6 AC6000s? Holy heck, that's a cool consist!
StarTard8 SD60M and the first AC60 was powered. The rest after the Dash 8 had their exhaust covered.
Will Hilliard how could you tell they were covered
There's a white covering on the exhaust on the remaining engines.
Look at that lashup wow i miss those days thanks for sharing buddy😎😎
Thanks always for watching & commenting!!
@@BaltimoreAndOhioRR your very welcome I really enjoy your videos hope you have a great Sunday!!☺☺☺
A sight that can no longer be seen now that CSX got rid of their AC6000CWs
And their 60 Series EMD's have bit the dust too along with the AC60's, sadly. Railfanning CSX has never the same since..
@Rusty Shackleford Unfortunately unlikely as all units have been repowered thanks to the 6000hp engine not doing its job right.
Same with the SD60M & The Dash 8
PSR Is A Parasite
I miss the old days when 8 banger consists were common fare & we used to change crews on the fly.
You could make that argument for most things anymore honestly. Having spent almost 19 years working for UP (scary as that is to think about) I've seen a lot of changes over the years. Most of the changes are filed as safety improvements but in reality they aren't for the safety of the crews. It's simply to reduce crew/operational liabilities to the company. Hence why most of the ever changing rules we have to follow do little if anything to actually improve system wide performance. But rather just to micromanage you to death in an attempt to reduce crew liabilities to the company all the while stressing you more and more knowing you have to somehow work faster and safer yet with less and less freedom to do so because you have endless rule book traps trying to limit what you can and can't do. It makes my head hurt just thinking about it. Doubly so since we live in a day and age in the industry where you have to adapt to endless rule changes, yet any infraction is almost a guaranteed termination. I saw the writing on the wall long ago when DPU's were becoming more and more common. The industry is trying to get rid of us in every way that they can. Hence why we are being trained to be more robots then humans in this industry. There's a reason so few new people to the industry last for long. Most can't take it. Can't say I blame them.
Whoa! Acid trip at 7:00
There are multiple units but likely only two in actual use. The rest are just along for the ride transferring them to where they’re needed or for repairs. I used to select dynamic brake for those unused locomotives for the extra braking action unless they were tagged out of service.. BNSF engineer (retired)
Absolutely wonderful video very colourful train's and video thumbs t :-) :-)
Thanks always! 💚
Fantastic filming, great work 🙏
Have a happy day 🌷
Interesting capture !!!
Thanks always! 👌
131 cars being pulled. Nice to let us see them long enough to count them. Nice video. hmmmm. I see a couple of others counted 129. Well darn, that means I am just going to have to watch the whole video again, aww shucks. ha ha love this video
Thanks always! 🤗
Those engines can pull! great video! thanks!
Very cool Dave this was interesting keep it up and have a nice day
Thanks always!
Awesome video keep up with a great work and be safe out there.
Thanks, you too!
Great video!! For a long train with 8 engines...wow.
seems this train always has massive power . nice catch
Nice crew change! I'm hoping to catch a crew change someday in Nevada,Iowa on the Spine Line!!!
Este cambio de tripulación ya augura un precioso video.
Ah, my old stomping grounds. Awesome video
Thanks always!😊
Classic AC6000s! They may have been a failure, but they sure won’t be forgotten!
I also really like the yellow CSX logo they have on the sides.
Same here, it's my fav csx logo!
They really weren't a failure. They were simply too powerful for the railroads needs which is why newer versions were never built. When i worked for CSX i ran the AC6000's all the time. Never had any issues. CSX ran them for a long time until they were worn out.
Classic location. It appears that the last 5 units were deadheading.
Omg, the olden days was really better!
Nice video and great catch of all 8 csx power on the freight train.
Mike Troina thx!
Your welcome.
Geez the one gentlemens comment on here which stated that these engines are very powerful & he wasn't kidding that's for sure wow!! That engineer had those engines & loaded freight cars up to speed & then some!
Great video edition. Thank you
Many thanks!
That's really nice and beautiful, good night!!
Thanks always!
CSXT616, 652, 638, 697, 632 and 625 were all Sold to PRLX CSX only owns 600,601Spirit of Waycross and 602 Spirit of Maryland.
Cool...haven't seen many SD60Ms on a train
Great video, nicepresentation🙏 thank you dear friend
Thanks always! 😄
6 AC6000CWs in one train ! nice !
Proper noises from the Dash 8 :)
Men this guy makes the best video
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Awesome Catch!!
Excellent video I gotta sometime film the crew change NS does under the Fahy bridge in Bethlehem
Used to ride helpers from Brunswick to Mt.Airy.
Just terrific my friend, liked, Happy Sunday :)ms
Thanks always! 😎
como se calcula o esforço de tração num trem com tantas maquinas à frente? não há risco de quebra de engates?
Lots of horses here!
My g-father worked for b&I out of the tuscola railyard bk in the 70s
Neat!
I would love to haul ass in one of those sd60m's! Love those marker lights oh did i mention that great emd sound :)
So nice friend ! A wonderful night to you !
Thanks always! You too!
And for those of you in Rio Linda, that station w/the most appealing architecture is located @Point of Rocks, Md!!
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I am from Cumberland, I seen many a train heading out thru narrows with 6 or 7 units. I live in Florida now, a train here has maybe 2 units, never seen one with 3 units.
hey can anyone tell me what the lightening bolts stand for the singles and the double bolts?
from what i understand, the bolts mean ac powered, and the double bolts were only put on the ac6000's with their unique paint scheme. but i could be wrong.
What is the location where they highballed from?
nice Big Locomotive Powerful
“So how many AC6000CWs do you want?”
The guy who assembled the train: *Y E S*
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An Excellent sharing , keep it up im always there to support you ,please stay connected !
Thanks and sure😊
Nice catch. I caught that 697 leading L415 last year.
Beautiful picture of Point of Rocks railway station.
Why 8 engines? How many rail cars were in the train? Thanks
A lot
tyvm for posting
Thanks always! 👍
Wow! 6 AC6000CW's, Nice video!
Thanks always! ✌
are they applying the brakes as they go by ?? if not, what is that terrible squeaking ??
Good lord, backpacks and coolers----JEEZ
+Glynn Roberts Not like the old days when crews only carried one small bag, a lunch box, and may have gotten on and off the train while it was moving.
Sharp looking string of CSX power leading this train
Thanks always!😄
I saw NS 14R in PA in 2018, and It has CSX #604!
IF you look at least TWO of the C60AC's are NOT running only in tow, as the stacks are capped off!
How long are they on a locomotive before change? seem to have a lot of baggage. Are they regulated like truckers?.
+Gary Plastek 12 hours max on duty and that includes any time waiting for a train to get in that they are crew for once they are on the books. 49CFR Chapter 211 covers it. When their time is up even out in the middle of nowhere it is known as " Going on the Law" or dying. The railroad then sends someone out to get the " dead " crew and delivering a replacement crew. Due to problems on the AutoTrain back in June, it got in late to Florence, SC. The crew went on the law a Satsuma FL. Just a little ways away from the Sanford AT terminal. But they were replaced with another crew and they knew it might happen before we got to Jacksonville FL. Only a 30 minute delay.
+gravelydon And the trucking rules stem from the RR rules from as far back as 1907. Long before the CMV rules came in for trucks. Depending on the operations, the FRA can restrict service even more for passenger service.
12 hours shift. That is what I do
Very video!! I'm Vinicios Dutra train driver from Brazil!!!
So cool! Thanks always!
Amazing how each car weighs tons!
Best from CSX in the hills of yes
LOVE THOSE GEVO 16s!!
No GEVO’s in this video.
Why do train wheels make that high pitch squealing noise? I used to think you only heard it during braking (at 06:00mark)
its not the braking, its the wheel flanges scraping the rail
This cool video love it. That is very long train wow.
Thanks always! 😀
very good video
Thanks always! 😊
At 5:36 is that first gray car getting the most strain on it's couplings?
I guess starting out slow is key in not to breaking any couplings.
But is seems that that first gray car is currently under the most stress.
Am I correct here?
Thanks.
the laws of physics would say the most strain is on the car closet to the engine, then getting less on each car going to the rear
BaltimoreAndOhioRR : but what about the shock load as the trains takes the slack out of the couplings as the strain builds up speed? Surely, as this occurs down the train, you are going to find the cars going from rest to forty mph in a metre?
this question is for anyone who knows about railroad work, when more than one unit is attached are there crew members on each of the units or just the lead unit?
just the lead.
thanks
There is times where crews are in the second unit as well
+trigga ville One person can control the train from the lead engine because the others are hooked up using MU cables.
Nice video.
Question: Why do some of the locomotives have lightening bolts next to the numbers? Does that mean anything?
+microdubber it means they are 'ac' current traction motors, as opposed to dc
the two bolts were painted on just the AC6000's
What the hell ? ? ? All that luggage and shit they haul on and off an engine, you'd think they were going on a 30 day trip instead of an 8 hour shift....... Damn !!!!
Well these guys run 12 hour shifts and sometimes aren't home for days at a time, most of the time they are staying in hotels and moving from terminal to terminal.
beautiful location
It really is!
Why did 8784 and 8782 become l&c trains?
Nice crew change action
Thanks always! 🤩
Those 60m's were cab control leaders for the ex RF&P
Damn!!!! how many cars were in dat bad boy ??
How long are their shifts? Seems like they're carrying a lot of luggage.
Tippy I think at max 8 hours but I could be wrong
12 hours on, 10 hours guaranteed off before you're back on the call back list potentially able to be called right back in for service. It rarely happens that you're called back so soon but it's something you have to plan for. In regards to the crew luggage, after 12 hours your service hours are up meaning it's illegal for you to continue to be in active service. Consequently you don't always terminate your shift near your home terminal leading you to sometimes getting stuck at hotels for extended periods of time waiting for available work to bring you back home. Hence the large amount of luggage. You plan on being away for a while every time you're called in. It's not always the case. But no one wants to be stuck away from home potentially for days with little baggage to make the stay more comfortable.
- Almost 19 years working for UP (scary as that is to think about).
Why are some of the engines backwards, never understood this?
Good question: Diesel-Electric locomotives are “bi-directional”, same amount of power is generated in either direction. It is more efficient to leave the locomotive(s) facing there original direction; rather than waste time and fuel to face another direction.
CobraBoss 302 makes sense, thanks for the reply.
excellent train movie ...
Thanks always!
That's a lot of units DIT.
How do you tell the difference between an ac4400cw and an ac6000? Do there wheels look different, do they sound different? Do they look different?
the most easy way is that the 6000's had their logo painted differently. also you can tell by the road numbers.
@@BaltimoreAndOhioRR ok thanks!
The easiest spotting feature was the "CSX" on the long hood was yellow and not blue and the cab had dual Lightning bolts vs the normal one. And then of course, the numbers. 600 series were the AC6000's. From the rear the MUCH larger radiators were an instant spotting feature.
wow, Im glad i came across this video. assuming all the power was running (it looks like some were not by the exaust caps) it would add up to 44,200 horsepower (6000 x6 + 4400 + 3800(sd60)) even without the 3 6000's its still an insane 26,200
Yeah, obviously some were being transported, but that would be insane if all were running!
This... This is epic!!
Thanks always! ⭐
As I remember I think it’s going towards Harpers Ferry WV by the way cool video
yep. thx
great video
Thanks always! 😊
Show !!! bela troca de equipagem ...
Nice catch
Thanks always! 😊
CSX engineers take out the suitcases