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  • @krisgibbon2199
    @krisgibbon2199 2 ปีที่แล้ว +141

    You just couldn't help yourself with that skippity-bop, could you?

    • @SkankyBurnedToast
      @SkankyBurnedToast ปีที่แล้ว +17

      I was eating, and nearly spit my food out laughing

  • @jared4969
    @jared4969 2 ปีที่แล้ว +173

    One cool modded one comes with the "Hazardous Reactors" mod, it's a "Crisis warhead" (you shove it into a normal warhead) it explodes and pulverizes anything around it, capable of one shoting anything in the game, the problem is, to get it you need to do a "Dry" (no water in the room) meltdown of your reactor with a Super-Critical Fulgarium fuel rod, which irradiates and instantly kills anything around it (without pucs) so yeah, pretty balanced I'd say.
    Great video as always.

    • @InitialDesu
      @InitialDesu  2 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      Wow, that actually cool idea to produce something nuclear using on-board reactor. (besides depleted fuel)

    • @theepicduck6922
      @theepicduck6922 2 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      Gotta experience that nuclear blast headon first to reap the spoils.

    • @geemanamatin8383
      @geemanamatin8383 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Hm, the need for a high-qual fulgraium rod is prob the biggest counter-balance for the crisis. Otherwise, wats stopping someone from taking a pirate sub and just nuking their reactor and fixing it over and over again?

    • @jared4969
      @jared4969 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@geemanamatin8383 the immense explosion and radiation fallout of the specific rod along with the incapability of transportation without a pucs suit (you'll only be able to wield it for a 30 seconds or so)

    • @Alpha1598753
      @Alpha1598753 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@geemanamatin8383 Doesn't has to be fulgurium, its actually the incendium component that goes supercritical (the mod adds it and modify volatile rod to be a incendium/fulgurium amalgam) so incendium or volatile fulg both spawn the critical rod uppon a dry meltdown, main difference is a different texture and the volatile rod burning twice as long giving more time to carry it to a fabricator before condition drop below the crisis warhead requirement
      And as Jared stated the dry metldown of those rods are fatal to the sub, volatile fulg will blow up half the hull and kill all electronics within +50m
      Incendium basicaly instantly kill anything in a 10m radius and double the the explosion strength and range
      Both rods then emit a lethal heat AOE that will not only kill unprotected personnel in a matter of 7-10s but also burn the hull within 7m, also its a hot potato that goes nuclear when droped

  • @MrFroTW
    @MrFroTW 2 ปีที่แล้ว +107

    Kinda sad how IC-4 is outperformed by C-4. Guess I should just save them for Nuclear Shells.

    • @ericquinteiro2330
      @ericquinteiro2330 2 ปีที่แล้ว +60

      The idea behind IC-4 is: "Big boom then Big fire"
      Problem is.
      Big Boom=Big Water

    • @awesomeguy1346
      @awesomeguy1346 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Pretty nice for pvp

  • @Bookslayer10
    @Bookslayer10 2 ปีที่แล้ว +87

    This is exactly what I needed, the wikis are all outdated and I am deciding what ammo types to use in my campaign. Thank you for all the work you are doing!

  • @main135s
    @main135s ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Thinking about the strength of the Railgun Shells relative to what each require, it's actually pretty interesting how good the Canister Shells are. They're relatively cheap to re-fill, so it's kind of hard to see a downside for their strength, but that downside is actually loading time.
    If you need to fire off your railgun, constantly, the Mechanic just being able to make a normal shell, run it, and load it while the next is crafting is super valuable when time is of the essence. Meanwhile, with the Canister Shells, someone has to remove it and run it to the fabricator and back. Just needing to remove it and take it to the fabricator effectively doubles (I think it's more like makes it take 1.4x longer, since the mechanic is still running back to the fabricator after loading the first shell, anyways) how long it takes to reload a Canister Shell.

  • @sentient9478
    @sentient9478 2 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    This is exactly what I needed. It seems like the flak cannon can out-damage the railgun in most cases (obviously not with nukes).
    But it's good to know that the canister shell can be a viable and extremely cheap / efficient alternative with each shell only requiring a single lead to reload.
    Thanks for the video!

  • @MessaTee
    @MessaTee ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Genuine underrated channel. Cannot stress enough how informative this channel is, plus it has really funny content in it. Keep up the good work king!

  • @stolaire
    @stolaire 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Comparing to another heavy weapons it's unreasonably expensive if you're using common or physicorium shells, even with warheads, while nuclear shells are abnormally cheap to uranium: you don't need it for fuel rods, if you're not planning to deplete them or use as ammo for Fissile Accelerator, because you would rather use thorium or fulgurium, and fertilizer is not essential consumable.

  • @tedybear6592
    @tedybear6592 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Canister shells are insane early game. Being able to translate 1 lead into 1 rail gun shot is huge. Lead is cheap and plentiful and at alot of outposts

  • @Holodechek
    @Holodechek ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Спасибо автору, нигде не мог найти хорошее и удобное сравнение. Но вот нашел)

  • @MargootMC
    @MargootMC 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Your videos are phenomenal

    • @InitialDesu
      @InitialDesu  2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      You are phenomenal! And all my subscribers are)

  • @lennic
    @lennic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    tons of great uploads lately, great comparison like always

  • @edtazrael
    @edtazrael 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks! I feel this was long overdue and clarified much. Really, thanks dude!

  • @awesomeguy1346
    @awesomeguy1346 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I was thinking, why would anyone run the Rail gun over flak cannon now? Then you shot the nuke. I forgot about that xD

    • @dovahkat9635
      @dovahkat9635 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Standard shell: "For your eyes only"
      Flak cannon: "To whom it may concern"
      Nuclear shell: *"This is a public service announcement"*

  • @TheKimshot
    @TheKimshot ปีที่แล้ว +1

    High quality content. Thank you for your time and effort

  • @oleksandr4371
    @oleksandr4371 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    flak - best choise, railgun - one of the worst weapons (cheap shell? but you will need lots of them. nuclear shell top damage? require more then any other ammo, need to be used on large creature or meet the loss like 80% of potential damage and probably gonna nuke your own self).
    Railgun needs buff like collect some of used regular shells for reuse, self-destruction timer or explode if enemy near instead of dirrect hit or auto-targeting, increase amount of fragments from canisters or lowering cost of pruduction or increasing quantity of production (2 lead in 1 use to kill some creatures in small area? - regular coilgun with standart ammo would be a better choise for the cost)
    P.S. about double coilgun: explosive ammo is good, but has a few shots and can be used as regular only in lategame, while flak cannon can handle early, middle and end game without much resource draining, perhaps depleated and piarcing ammo need a little buff.

    • @蔡林翰-v2m
      @蔡林翰-v2m ปีที่แล้ว +2

      看到那個爆炸了嗎? 就算不是核彈 還是有相當的爆炸範圍與傷害
      也許成本更高昂,但是軌道砲 有高射炮不能比的優勢,我相信高射炮有更好的泛用性但是不用詆毀軌道砲的戰力

  • @ascspeedywalker4778
    @ascspeedywalker4778 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Might be good to mention most of the explosive compounds go boom when dropped

  • @iuquirimilin
    @iuquirimilin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very good video mate :D

  • @comediccomrade5716
    @comediccomrade5716 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Double coil gun with the explosive ammo is probably my favorite weapon in the entire game. It’s just so reliable.

  • @chenchen6150
    @chenchen6150 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Ah Railgun it's funny you can litteraly put any explosive in it even stun and emp grenadej my favorite type of railgun is from modded one, heavy Railgun expensive to make but it does worth the mats although the lack of variety of the bullet (only 3 so far) kinda make me prefer stick with the normal one.

  • @CodexMadness
    @CodexMadness 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    i don't know why i just started laughing at 3:29
    i think it because i once used a nuclear shell on a crawler just because i had one laying around XD

  • @misterymaster5678
    @misterymaster5678 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Quick question: Does it make any difference to load explosives into the nuclear railgun shell?
    PS: You got a new subscriber. I really like your content…

    • @InitialDesu
      @InitialDesu  ปีที่แล้ว

      there is no or very very little difference

  • @genericname1999
    @genericname1999 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    you can put fulgurium in a nuke shell and it seems to work well

  • @thanh8231
    @thanh8231 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    One thing you forgot you actually can put frag grenade into the railgun shell

  • @negisam9020
    @negisam9020 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    what if you put a dirty bomb in a nuclear shell. do that make you a war crime?

    • @InitialDesu
      @InitialDesu  2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I think nuclear shell is already war crime... so its just doubles your prison term

  • @luigisisti6812
    @luigisisti6812 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    F#ck it, *puts Dirty bomb in a nuclear shell*.

  • @greytheraptor3695
    @greytheraptor3695 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    If I can tag depth charges and syringes to be fired from rail guns. Does that mean I can tag railgun rounds to be fired from something more… handheld…

  • @sturmmagnunstein1008
    @sturmmagnunstein1008 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ah yes, i remember the day when i first launched a rail gun loaded with a dirty bomb straight into the hall of a poor, unsuspecting pirate warship. Needless to say they enjoy the crew now enjoy their new life with the fishes.

  • @codeplayer8575
    @codeplayer8575 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Amazing vid!

  • @蔡林翰-v2m
    @蔡林翰-v2m ปีที่แล้ว +3

    第一階段,霰彈意外的有高效率(能穿透裝甲?)? C4 有更好的傷害能力? 還是UEX 有效實惠?
    敵人的裝甲值影響呢? 穿透性比較強的是哪一種?填裝鋼鐵或是其他材料會有效果嗎? 或者快速破壞外裝甲的能力??
    爆炸傷害對每一種生物的差異? 有裝甲的差異?
    我看到很多人用手榴彈當作爆炸物(UEX)替代品,真的有比較好嗎?
    看完之後我十分的好奇,非常好奇,我想知道更多細節

    • @InitialDesu
      @InitialDesu  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      uex>frag grenade 現在已經正式上線了,這遊戲 frag grenade = uex. C4 兩倍好 uex. 我會製作更多關於這個主題的視頻

    • @InitialDesu
      @InitialDesu  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      uex is better than frag grenade in structural damage but in creature damage uex = frag grenade. C4 twice as good as uex and has better radius. I will make more videos on this topic

  • @深界五層提督
    @深界五層提督 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    how about using frag grenades other than C4?

    • @InitialDesu
      @InitialDesu  2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      hmm🤔, I think if you already have frag grenades, you can put it in shells, but if you crafting its better to choose c4 for more damage

  • @koribokki2234
    @koribokki2234 ปีที่แล้ว

    heard a rumor somewhere that if you put clown equipment like the outfits or bike horns in a shell and shoot it, it provides psychosis when used against an enemy crew. no idea if true.

  • @ItsSilentMae
    @ItsSilentMae ปีที่แล้ว +1

    3:32 the moment i saw the explosion I died and wanting that nuclear shells so bad now 😂🤣

  • @darkarm333
    @darkarm333 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was curious how the explosive interaction works with higher quality C-4, UE-X and IC-4 (good quality,masterwork etc.), because when we play we always craft the highest quality C-4 we can, and if it works in the situation with the Moloch it would probably kill in 3 shots instead of 4, Just beating out the explosive coilgun rounds right?

  • @banansa4778
    @banansa4778 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    6:00 well it was nice knowing you......☠️

  • @витясимченко
    @витясимченко ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey, you forget to put dirty bomb into a nuclear shell :D

  • @iceball3xd
    @iceball3xd ปีที่แล้ว

    Have you done a video testing frag grenades or similar as a railgun payload? Most of the grenades are slightly redundant, but frag is rather spicy by virtue of how heavily it bleed procs. Not sure if it'd be competitive compared to canister though.

  • @julianmillen1207
    @julianmillen1207 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just hate railguns because they take so much managment and have to reload after every shot, i just want to slap a box of ammo in the loader and go to town

  • @dsshindig14
    @dsshindig14 ปีที่แล้ว

    Actually we can load a frag grenade inside one instead of UEX to get greater effects.

  • @Ribbons0121R121
    @Ribbons0121R121 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    you missed that you can put mini nukes inside the railgun shell

  • @lordkoth6735
    @lordkoth6735 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nukes got a huge buff back beforehand the phyconium was flat better

  • @вадимшмулевич
    @вадимшмулевич ปีที่แล้ว

    You can put fuel tanks into shells and it will explode in a small radius

  • @autodidacte4528
    @autodidacte4528 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That nuclear shell made me laugh so hard

  • @con5532
    @con5532 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    RIP castle doctorine

  • @jeraldperkson255
    @jeraldperkson255 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What about unstable compound N? I’d assume it’s a more explosive version with more damage and bigger radius.

    • @dovahkat9635
      @dovahkat9635 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Unstable N is the same as regular, it difference is that unstable automatically degrades on its own until it explodes.
      Think of it like a time bomb, except the timer starts as soon as you craft it. *And there is no way to stop it.*

    • @jeraldperkson255
      @jeraldperkson255 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dovahkat9635 Alright, thanks.

  • @pirinorppa6517
    @pirinorppa6517 หลายเดือนก่อน

    conclusion: just use the goddamn flak cannon

  • @avalidnamepls
    @avalidnamepls ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Might be alot to ask...but can you do the samw with the light weapons?

    • @InitialDesu
      @InitialDesu  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nice idea, I can do that

  • @renatogomezfaundez8019
    @renatogomezfaundez8019 ปีที่แล้ว

    sad that the flak canon out preforms everything

  • @internetuser7119
    @internetuser7119 ปีที่แล้ว

    whats the hull penetration on railgun ammo? can in theory a physicorium shell go thru a pirate ship? want to know this cuz i need a way of killing all pirates on a gun deck but leaving their sub mostly intact

  • @sleihbeggey1992
    @sleihbeggey1992 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So what exactly is IC-4 supposed to be doing to justify the entire piece of Incendium it takes to convert C-4 into it?

  • @samham7703
    @samham7703 ปีที่แล้ว

    you forgot the dirty bomb

  • @Nodwick123
    @Nodwick123 ปีที่แล้ว

    wish you would do same video fir the EK mod shells.

  • @Minedeployder
    @Minedeployder 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thats crazy how much railgun is an outdated thing.
    Cons: cost way too much even without c-4, difficult to shoot, bad dps\burst
    Pros: Nuclear shell

    • @Minedeployder
      @Minedeployder 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Btw how is "canister shell" considered as "cheap"? It is super expensive, cause all of the plumbum turns into firearm ammo and you will still be lack of it.

    • @lennic
      @lennic 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Minedeployder with the rework of crafting recipes and costs I think it'll be "cheap", honestly anything railgun related isn't efficient at all, only nuclear shells are efficient sadly enough

    • @Minedeployder
      @Minedeployder 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lennic they gonna rework it again? Railgun is cool, at least, fun to use, if you know what i mean)

  • @brodypullishy932
    @brodypullishy932 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    No Frags?

  • @loyso9171
    @loyso9171 ปีที่แล้ว

    Since one can put frag grenades inside shells AND they have similar crafting cost, I wonder, would they be outright better than C4?

    • @InitialDesu
      @InitialDesu  ปีที่แล้ว

      No, C4 is better

    • @loyso9171
      @loyso9171 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@InitialDesu woah, thanks for the reply! It'd be really awesome if you could take a moment and elaborate on this

    • @InitialDesu
      @InitialDesu  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@loyso9171 c4 has better creature damage and structure damage. If you have a lot of grenades you can put them in railgun shell to make it dealing slightly more damage that empty. But grenade is not an alternative to c4 because of worse capabilites. If crafting explosives for railgun from scratch I will choose c4. I prefer using granades as intended - killing living force and clearing outposts.

    • @loyso9171
      @loyso9171 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@InitialDesu Thanks for the insights!

  • @SonicSonedit
    @SonicSonedit 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    No nuke in damage comparison with other guns?

  • @agentpea4493
    @agentpea4493 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    how do you get so much ammo in the railgun?

  • @mikaidaniels5107
    @mikaidaniels5107 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    How big and much damage would a grenade do if put into a shell?

    • @InitialDesu
      @InitialDesu  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It will be less damage than c4

  • @dazedream2392
    @dazedream2392 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does adding explosives in the nuke shells make any difference?

    • @InitialDesu
      @InitialDesu  ปีที่แล้ว

      The nuclear explosion itself will be the same but there will be second weaker explosion of something that you put it shell

  • @PapaDanielssss
    @PapaDanielssss ปีที่แล้ว

    Whats the name of the background music

    • @InitialDesu
      @InitialDesu  ปีที่แล้ว

      Barotrauma OST - Wartrauma

  • @skilledspacepolice6003
    @skilledspacepolice6003 ปีที่แล้ว

    where is the volitile compound-N

    • @InitialDesu
      @InitialDesu  ปีที่แล้ว

      its absolutely same as compound-N

  • @TheRyderShotgunn
    @TheRyderShotgunn ปีที่แล้ว

    does emp grenade in railgun shell work?

  • @Tolwrath
    @Tolwrath ปีที่แล้ว

    But how does railgun shell + frag grenade stack up?

    • @stolaire
      @stolaire ปีที่แล้ว

      Worse than C4

  • @khanhquocoan4782
    @khanhquocoan4782 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    revolver and nuke use?

  • @boon1580
    @boon1580 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    are the c-4 or ic-4 masterwork quality? difference btwn normal and masterwork is very substantial. in campaign if u reached zone3 u are pretty much guaranteed to be able to make those so its not a rare thing.

  • @randomspaceman3732
    @randomspaceman3732 ปีที่แล้ว

    what about grenades in railgun shells?

    • @randomspaceman3732
      @randomspaceman3732 ปีที่แล้ว

      also can't we put things inside of the nuclear shell aswell?

  • @dorpsdors8564
    @dorpsdors8564 ปีที่แล้ว

    How do you have many shells?