Grading GOT7’s Korean - Mark
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 ก.ค. 2024
- In this series I grade some of your favorite K-pop celebrities who are non-native Korean speakers. This episode features Mark from the K-pop group “GOT7” or 갓세븐. I’ll grade him on how well he did, how he can improve, and everything between.
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Mark: 01:34
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One thing you might not know about Mark is that he is an introvert who stuttered sometimes when he was younger. He arrived in Korean knowing nothing about the culture and the language, bc unlike other American, Canadian or Australian kpop idol, his family is not Korean, and unlike Asian idols he was not familiar with kpop culture. He immersed himself so much in the language that he became almost unfamiliar to his native language, having difficulties to speak English in public. It was only after a few years that he overcame it, and now he’s able to switch from Korean to English to Mandarin without blinking. And his Japanese rap is amazing too.
Just the other day, Mark was asking his fans what he should do with his hair, and he pronounced "mullet" with a Korean accent 😆 the "m" was like a "ㅁ" 😆
@@KRYoung_dev hey I thunk u are igot7 so plz can u tell me that if marl is not korean how can he match korean beauty standards in this comment it is written family was not korean so how can he look like that and also is he not korean blooded like his ancestor were korean or something like that and I am confused becoz American Don't look like that
@@crazykids_2014 he's parents are from Taiwan so he is still asian.
@@freeleoni1633 oh ok thnx very much 🙂😊
@@KRYoung_dev But ㅁ is always an “m” sound, what do you mean?
He’s just an introvert. Mark speaks in short sentences no matter what language he speaks.
True
Yes :)
haha couldn't agee more!!
@@88Lineful hey I think u are igot7 so plz can u tell me that if marl is not korean how can he match korean beauty standards in this comment it is written family was not korean so how can he look like that and also is he not korean blooded like his ancestor were korean or something like that and I am confused becoz American Don't look like that
@Ann okkk... thnx for telling
The part where he sang a small bit of Got7's 'Just Right' was so funny and relatable 🤣💀
I’m surprised he didn’t say HARD CARRY HEY
I remembered Mark was not that good in Korean yet and he was arguing with Hui (Pentagon) and Young K (Day6) was translating. JB (GOT7) and Youngjae (BAP) came to help but in the end, they were both arguing. It was funny that Young K had to translate everything for the four of them. I know it was not related to the video but I just remembered.
same, that's what I also had in mind, & then mark started crying and jb felt bad afterwards. It just shows how far he's come from literally knowing nothing & using hand gestures to communicate w/ other trainees, to being really good at it in just a few years. :))
idk what ur talking abt but I just imagine like
mark: (angry english noises)
hui: (angry korean noises)
young k: (struggling in bilingual)
@@user-vv2ur6zl6e hey I think u are igot7 so plz can u tell me that if mark is not korean how can he match korean beauty standards in this comment it is written family was not korean so how can he look like that and also is he not korean blooded like his ancestor were korean or something like that and I am confused becoz American Don't look like that
@@crazykids_2014 It's bc Mark is still East Asian, which fits Korean beauty standards. His parents are from Taiwan so he's ethnically Chinese. He's American through his nationality, he was born in California, and spent a good amount of his childhood to teenage years there. Hope this helps!
@@user-vv2ur6zl6e ohk thanks actually I am new in this fandom that's why 😅 I always thought that if he is American then why does he look like Asian thanks 😊☺
The fact that you mentioned that Mark's first instinct is to use Korean is interesting because one time the Korean members were talking about how natural Mark's Korean is. They talked about how they were shocked that even while he was in his own environment playing video games, he still ends up screaming things in Korean instead of switching to English. I guess he's been surrounded by Korean so much that he just naturally thinks in Korean now lol
and thus we can see Billy's slow descent into stan life
Wow, I didn't notice that he's making his sentences shorter. As a Korean learner, I've just realized that I do the same thing! And it's because I only apply basic grammar and vocab when I converse with my Korean friend. Anyways, thanks for making this video!!! I actually started learning Korean because of GOT7 hahahaha
Yes, BamBam shared that his mother gave that name from the Flintstones and he also said that his father nearly named him “Whiskey”
I think his father nearly named him BEER*
@@tiffunnystraykidsnoona7694 no beer is his oldest brother name
@nana 나나 yes bambam oldest brother name is beer. second oldest is bank and his younger sister is baby
just to add a little his grandmother liked the flintstones that why his mom gave it to him, wishing him to be a strong boy :) (sorry if anything is wrong not a native speaker)
Yes even Korean fans always said his Korean was very proper and polite. Always perfect. Mark uses short sentences in both English and mandarin too. That’s his personality. He’s what the romans termed “laconic.”
Remember that famous Spartan quote “if.” That’s literally him. I think if he were to be a famous writer he wouldn’t be a Tolstoy but an Ernest Hemingway..
Also thank you for noticing that he listens more than he speaks. It dovetails with the above point. He’s someone who listens and summarizes the crux. His members often said the crucial veto was always his, as nobody doubted his judgement on controversial issues. Not only that, he would logically, and succinctly explain why it had to be so.
Thanks for your analysis. He’s kinda perfect in ahgase’s eyes. He’s good at literally everything, including very scary martial arts he had to pull off in choreographies, all kinds of extreme sports, and he also picks up new things fast. He also speaks with a lotttttt of responsibility. That’s why he was chosen as the main visual representative of got7. (Jackson is face of the group while Jinyoung is center.)
But he’s the opposite of Jackson in every way. Not only physically, but in personality and speaking. He’s taller, leaner, paler, succinct, a good listener while Jackson is kinda shorter, broader, tanner, and a very good talker.
Like a vampire and werewolf as they’re called in the fandom. One is classy, somewhat inaccessible and elite while the other is a mood making, gregarious and loquacious cub. They’re still bff’s as they were the only Chinese speakers in the group, but they’re absolutely polar opposites in every which way. If they were to choose a profession, Mark would be a pilot or someone needed in a crisis who handles everything well. In the same way Jackson would be a stand up comic as there’s no way Mark could pull of public speaking.
I like the way you explained how really mark is and it’s shows that you know him very well, but for Jackson u connected him with "funny" and "fun" 😂eventough he is a funny guy and more energetic than the others, but u can really count on him , he is also soo goood at handling and dealing with the things .So i think he wouldn’t just "panic" and "scream " as you said . He is much more than just a funny crack headed guy 💚
Maroua Ben he’s like a puppy and very energetic and funny. Those are amazing personality traits to have for success and to make both social and business connections. Jackson is a social butterfly but also a business guru. Sorry if I didn’t make that clear. I edited out the panic and scream thing.
Mori Arty nooo it’s fine i love how much you know the boys that’s soo cool 👍🏻. I just mentioned that cus u know he talks about that so much
The members always said Jackson is very serious the most serious member actually. It's just he doesn't show it in front of the camera it doesn't mean he is not cable of listening or judging or he is only "the fun" member because he is not his achievements shows that he can handle multi-tasking and he is very clever/talented person.
wow you expressed this so well! thank you
mark is a kind of person who goes straight to the point thus the shorter sentences haha
even in english, he goes straight to the point. also mark being polite is something people, whom met him for the first time, say about him. he's just very polite to everyone
hey I think u are igot7 so plz can u tell me that if mark is not korean how can he match korean beauty standards in this comment it is written family was not korean so how can he look like that and also is he not korean blooded like his ancestor were korean or something like that and I am confused becoz American Don't look like that
Poor guy really had to go through tons of videos of Chaotic7 when he thought he was just gonna analyze normal guys speaking calmly 🤣 I just wanna know how his journey was like LOL
Even more so to find ones with Mark talking more than a few times if at all in the video 🤣
Man did some digging
@@user-me9in1yu6s LOL that's so true as well I didn't even think of that! no wonder he said mark doesn't talk that much "unlike Jackson", he must've been trying to analyze mark but Jackson took over the convo every time 🤣🤣
@@user-me9in1yu6s hey I think u are igot7 so plz can u tell me that if mark is not korean how can he match korean beauty standards in this comment it is written family was not korean so how can he look like that and also is he not korean blooded like his ancestor were korean or something like that and I am confused becoz American Don't look like that
@@crazykids_2014
You don't seem to understand that being American is a nationality more so than anything else. Anyone can be American. It's not a race. It simply means to have citizenship there. In other words, no one can look American as being American isn't a race thing. Mark Tuan is of Taiwanese descent and was born in America making him Taiwanese American. He fits Korean beauty standards simply because he's Asian and has the right features to fit it. Nothing more or less.
When you were starting to talk about how Mark's sentences are short I guessed right away where you were going. Although I don't know Korean I also thought he talked like that because his vocab wasn't expansive.
It's actually interesting because years ago when I tried to learn Korean the thought I kept coming up with was, as I described it, Koreans speak in point form, short sentences, but as you state they just don't ramble as much as English speakers do.
Yeah next Jackson Wang? I am so excited and this series is giving me a lot of interest to learn korean.
This series is a great way to grab the attention of the Kpop fanbase while still keeping the content centered on what you actually like -- legitimately teaching Korean. Glad to see it doing so well.
Him: After watching GOT7 related content for a week, my TH-cam recommendations are filled with GOT7.
Me: Yeah, you get used to that.
hey I think u are igot7 so plz can u tell me that if mark is not korean how can he match korean beauty standards in this comment it is written family was not korean so how can he look like that and also is he not korean blooded like his ancestor were korean or something like that and I am confused becoz American Don't look like that
마크는 한글을 예쁘게쓰고 띄어쓰기랑 스펠링이 완벽하더라구요. 노래할때 랩할때 발음이 좋아서 가사도 잘들려요. 한국와서 모든걸 새로 배우고 시작했었어야했던 마크가 이렇게 훌륭하게 성장해서 자랑스러워요!💚
You’re right when you say Mark probably thinks to himself in korean. He’s said himself that he does think in korean when he’s in Korea and sometimes he struggles to switch back to English haha. He has forgotten English words in interviews before and tried to translate his thoughts from korean haha. I think part of why Mark can sound so natural speaking korean is because he grew up in a bilingual household where he probably heard as much mandarin at home as he heard English while he was out of the house, so he’s been exposed to more sounds and can detect and repeat well.
Would love to see you grade Bambam and Jackson too purely because they’re the opposites of Mark - total extroverts who probably have stronger native accents when they speak but superb vocab because they voluntarily speak more and use those words more. Bambam is really quite korean in his attitude and mannerisms too, and I think it comes from not even knowing English when he got to Korea, which a lot of foreigners could rely on when they got stuck. Bambam had to assimilate into korean culture right away.
omg I can't explain how excited I got hearing you talk about Got7 when I love both your channel and them, it's like my two worlds came together 😂 you sound so informed already like you're one of us! haha
and yess you're right, bambam's parents named him after the flintstones :D Can't wait to see you analyze Bambam and Jackson next!
I love how the title is “Grading GOT7’s Korean - Mark” because it hints there will be more videos with the other memberssss. I can’t wait!
New subscriber 💚
I love these vids! you should do some members of nct they have members from america, japan, mainland china, hong kong, macau, canada, thailand, and a member who is from taiwan but moved to germany as a child!
_speaking of mark_ xD
Cuz, y'know. Mark's canadian? ok, bye
I wish you can grade Day6's Jae korean since hes an American eventho hes ethnically Korean so hes still struggling with korean language.
마크팬이어서 예능이나 이외의 영상들 엄청 많이 봤는데 마크 한국말 정말 잘해요 ㅠㅠ
억양도 어휘력도 순발력 농담까지 그냥 네이티브 한국인처럼 휼륭해요💗
10:30 I see you are a man of culture as well, Billy
Mark save time. See word (or sea world?).
Ok now that you've brought up long sentence and talkative people, I gotta know how Jackson speaks. That man talks so much, I'm wonder if he uses longer sentences. He's so outgoing and funny so I wonder if the way he speaks in Korean kinda of motivates people to laugh as well.... Anyways loved the video! Thank you doing such a careful analysis!
Thank you for analyzing Jackson!
Please do (G)I-DLE next! Half the members are foreigners.
Minnie- Thai
Yuqi- Chinese
Shuhua- Taiwanese
I think Mark's just really scared to "stand out" or make a mistake, that's why he was quiet for the most time. But now that he's back in LA he talks SO much and is so active, he's almost changed for 180° when it comes to speaking 😂😂
still waiting for the gidle foreign line. half of the group is foreign and all of them speak so well, i'm pretry sure billy would be amazing surprised with them skills
Billy ! Ahgase here! Thank you for doing GOT7! We love them and they are amazing. I hope you heard the clips of Jackson and Mark speaking mandarin/Korean/English all at the same time. It’s hilarious
Yeah👏👏👏 mark is good😅💚
I really love this vid. I can't wait to see got7 jackson and got7 bambam series. 선생님 감사합니다🙏
7hearts💚💚💚💚💚💚💚
for teacher billy from AHGASES🐥
Jackson and BamBam next pls :) I love your videos!
Really enjoy this new series..thanks for keeping it going 😁
I was waiting for this video!!! thank you so much for grading got7 members' korean ~green hearts~ today is my birthday and this is like a present to me! thanks
Saeng il Chuga hamnida! 🥳🥳
@@pranavig2340 gamsahamnida ^_^
Ok another note I think him making his sentences shorter is also just his personality. He is not a talkative person by nature. In his native tongue, English, he also gets straight to the point. Just something I’d noticed.
I absolutely love these kind of videos :)
I think NCT or SEVENTEEN would be really interesting as well, especially NCT has *a lot* of foreign members that you could choose from.
Having to witness Billy slowly become an ahgase is sooo amusing. Good luck billy, got7 will really entertain you a lot through music and their personalities lmaooo
That ‘Kevin from the Office’ reference was perfect 😂
Please do nct members, they have a lot of foreigners (johnny, yuta, mark, the whole china line HAHSHA) pls pls pls pls
Your recent uptake on non-native K-Pop idols speaking Korean is inspiring, commendable and truly eye-opening. As a new subscriber on your channel, I see and appreciate the effort and research that you do on your every upload. Thank you. I am learning Hangul from you, spending 2-3 hours each day watching your videos. :-)
_I actually didn’t know all that about Mark lol. Looks like Billy’s week of research was more in depth than all my years as a Got7 fan._
Such an interesting video! I clicked because of Mark but ended up enjoying and learning a lot.
I'm not korean and i understood the "just right" joke at the beginning
Ooh finally i was waiting for a Got7 members one
Actually mark speaks in every language like that.
As short as possible.
Also his members already confirmed that he understands and knows the most Korean from all the foreign members, but he just doesn't speak much! He is more on the introverted side😊
But thanks for analyzing 👍
THIS! THIS!
As someone who lives in Japan, I know my pronunciation of Japanese is pretty good that I do trick Japanese people however my sentences are always super short and that’s because I lack the grammar to lengthen my sentences.
I definitely do listen a lot and I do consciously keep my sentences short. I do speak a lot but it’s a whole bunch of short sentences but to anyone Japanese, I appear to be better at Japanese than I actually am.
This was really good to see someone who is in a similar position in their language learning to me
Mark really talent now
Love your videos Billy!
This series is so so interesting!
Love these videos. Thanks so much!!!
thank you so much for this video!!! can't wait for you to grade jackson's and bambam's korean/english since they're not native to either of these languages :)
Thank you Billy!! You're so funny and relatable 😁
SOLID The Office reference. And I thought I couldn’t love your content more!! 빌리 선생님 화이팅!
Mark definitely speaks shorter sentences, the members have expressed that they get frustrated that he doesn't finish his thoughts LOL. He definitely speaks less, but he is definitely not quiet LOL. I'm not sure if there is actually a quiet member in Chaos7 😆
Thank you for checking GOT7 out! I really enjoyed this video. Mark is known to be a bit quiet compared to other members, but the korean members always make jokes saying that Mark is just a native Korean in disguise
I really love seeing the different things you're pointing out in each of the videos you've made from this series so far, and I also really enjoy seeing what kind of different comprehension and fluency level the different idols have! I hope you'll be analysing the foreigners in nct at some point too. there are many, many members to pick from and I can't wait to hear about all of them (or some if you think that's too many after all haha.)
one thing I'd also be really interested in seeing from you is a video where you talk about how you approach your analysis when you start grading the idols. what is it that you're looking for in how they speak, how many videos you try to watch on average to make an assessment of their skills -- things like that!
YES THANK YOU FOR DOING GOT7!!!
having a bunch of got7 videos recommended is my daily life and i'm not mad about it
Hello billy!
Just happy to watched this episodes of got7 in your channel, I hope to see you interview them personally 😄
They just released their new song NANANA yesterday, check it out ü
I LIKE THIS GUY A LOT keep going !!! thank you
also, kudos to you for doing so much research! Your content is amazing and well structured so I really enjoy it! i hope you enjoyed watching the got7 content as well hahha although it's kinda hard not to laugh at got7
you can really hear the accent Mark has in some of the clips O.o
This series is so helpful, thanks Billy! I'd love to see you do (G)I-DLE next.
Love this
if you ever grade nct, there are a series of compilations called "nct versus the korean language" that shows the best clips of the members struggling lol
fun fact: BamBam of Got7 is childhood friends with Lisa of Blackpink!
...just a little fact for the new fans!
I've been really enjoying your videos man!
This was very interesting to watch as I‘m learning Korean too! ☺️ What I‘d like to point out is that Mark‘s sentences in English are short as well hahaha so I guess it‘s just a part of his personality!
Loved this one. You know, someone once told me it's better to use short sentences. I guess they were right 😃
i love how you binged Hard Carry, good choice 😄
Could you do TheBoyz foreign line (Eric, Jacob and Kevin)some time in the future? I love these videos ♡
Enjoying it!!
U can have enhypen too
They have members from Japan and USA
You should do a video on the foreign members of Seventeen! There are two Chinese members and two American members (though one of the American members was raised in Korea)
10:32 I understood that reference
It'd be interesting to see you do an episode of this taking a look at Jae of Day6's korean :)
Yessss Bambam is baby's name form flintstone
Please make a video about Day6 Jae's korean
Great video! Next time, you should grade Yuqi and Minnie from IDLE. A lot of MCs and radio interviewers always comment how great their Korean is, but I really can’t hear the different between them, soojin, and Shuhua.
I see GOT7. I click it. And you get a new subscriber, Billy 😊
It was their manager hyung and when it comes to Bambam's turn, he volunteered to scare him.
Maybe you could grade Peniel from BTOB? He's from Chicago and is friends with Mark from their JYP trainee days.
I love these cause you can learn from their mistakes
You should cover NCT.
(Name(Land of Origin))
-Ten(Thailand)
-Lucas(Hongkong)
-Hendery(Macau)
-Johnny(Chicago, IL. USA. His mother spoke both English and Korean, but I'm not sure if he was native)
-Mark(Toronto, Canada)
-Yuta/Shotaro(Japan)
-YangYang(Germany)
-Kun/WinWin/Xioajun/Renjun/Chenle(China)
About that part when he immediately screamed in Korean after seeing the ghost - I think the language he thinks in depends more on the setting than his native language (ofc this still does count though).
I'm not sure how to explain it clearly enough but I basically do the same thing - my native language is Polish but I've been raised in a heavily English speaking setting which led me to speaking both of those languages fluently (and thinking in both of them too). When I'm in Poland with my Polish friends, I think in Polish and kind of automatically switch to it - although it takes some time. During periods I mostly am with English speakers, my brain switches again and my thoughts and reactions will be in English.
It's not always super clear tho, I've been struggling with being bilingual especially as a little kid, fortunately it gets better with time.
tl;dr: I think because Mark lived almost solely in Korea for all those years (trainee time + part of GOT7, 11 years in total = almost half of his life) he got used to thinking in Korean since that was the language he was hearing and been all around - life's just easier when you immediately speak the same language as your friends. I do believe his brain will switch to thinking in English right now that he's back home.
I need to be your friend now because same.
Hello fellow English-ised(?) Polish person!
JUNIOR!!!
I love your videos! Especially your lessons~ I'm learning a lot :)
Please check out NCT Mark and Yuta's Korean please~ Thank you!
Mark is the best one in korean, specially grammar.
Still in general Mark likes to go to the point. That is why he says less words in any situation.
But is true, as he doesn't know as much as he want so he thinks on the easiest way to say things.
Lovely video! I always felt Mark was confident with what he knows in Korean which is totally fine. Anyway, i hope you could consider judging Handong from Dreamcatcher! I know they arent as high-profile as the others youve grades, but Im extremely curious because her korean doesnt sound too “slurred” as other chinese idols I know (namely tzuyu and vivi). Thanks!
Can you also grading jackson speaking korean? 감사합니다 😊
Jackson is next. Stay tuned!
네, 선생님 감사합니다 😊
okay so we need to finish up got7 with BamBam, then please do NCT members (Mark, Johnny etc.). I really love these videos! Thank you! 이 비디어는 너무 많이 좋아해요! 감사합니다!
The number of times I've been in the process of trying to translate something long and suddenly realize that there is a much simpler succinct way to say it lol. This video serves as a reminder 😅
I'm familiar with Got7 but feel shocked whenever I hear Mark or BamBam speak Korean. I'm not so shocked when it comes to Jackson, though. I really like how I his voice sounds when he speaks Korean 😳👀
Can't wait to see the other foreign members from GOT7. me ahgase is excited hahaha
Also, can you do peniel from btob please ;) Thanks.
can u do jae from day6? he was born in portugal and he grew up in LA *-* p.s. i truly love your content and im currently learning through your course so thank you so much :"
Please do Bam Bam next !
And Jinyoung but English analysis
I would love to see you rate Jacob and Kevin’s Korean from The Boyz !!
Next, i would love to see the members from G-idle. 3 are foreign members from different contries.
Hello, your video is so interesting! Back then, i was looking for someone to analyze the AmeriThaiKong's korean. I'm so curious because the other members always said that the foreigner's korean is so good. Could you please analyze Bambam too? By the way, thank you for the video!🔥
Please, make a video about (G)I-DLE members. There are three of them. I think their Korean is so good, but I want to hear your, more professional, opinion on them.
I would love to see Jackson and BamBam can’t do one of the ATK (America Thai Kong) our 3 fav foreign members and not the other two.
your videos are amazing!! ty for your hard work. i just wanted to know if you can do the same video, but with Hueningkai from TXT. please please please!!
Isn't HueningKai fluent? I know he wasn't born here but I tho that they still talked to him in Korean
Jackson and bambam too please !!