I pick by sound too, it's a helpful skill to pick up you can tell a spool, a serrated, and in lockwoods especially, over sets are particularly distinct
HI LPL I uploaded a vid, and used a bit of a spoof tittle that includes your YT moniker, I trust you wont mind but should you have any concern or in the unlikely event you take offence I shall be happy to re tittle the vid
I'm shocked this one has so few views (under 50,000 four years later, at this point it seems like a new LPL video will get 100,000 in the first hour). By far this is one of the best videos he's ever released.
I hope to see the addition of a Lock Mic in more videos throughout the community. I'm half deaf sometimes, and the clicks were clear enough to differentiate. Great video!
+vanderticked I hadn't considered that, but it seems like an interesting, and potentially useful idea... I'll see if there is an easy way to do that. It might be helpful to many.
+LockPickingLawyer Awesome! I couldn't help but get to thinking...I used to have a pickup for an upright bass from my high school jazz band days that I think would work great for amplifying lock sounds. The Fishman Pickup. Rather than picking up sounds in the air, and then amplifying them, the pickup works by picking up the vibrations through physical contact with the instrument. Similar to how throat mics work. Also, I bet a throat mic would work great, too. You know, as a suggestion to anyone that might happen to have access to either of these types of mics.
I think that would be too much. I tried attaching the mic to my tension wrench, and the noise was overwhelming... every little scratch came through! I did lots of experimenting with mic placement, and this was the best I could manage with the tools on hand.
Damn good outcome it was! I can see how the problems could pile up the more sensitive the mic being used is, creating the need for additional equipment and advanced audio manipulation.
That would work with a piezo pickup, but not a regular wire wound pickup. Piezo disks are dirt cheap. It would probably work best if you use a paperclip to attach it to your tensioning tool.
It's an older video but VERY useful. Thank you for taking the time to point out the difference in the sound. As you stated that you use sound in picking, I can now use this to help develop the feel in the feed back on the tension wrench as well as the pick, as to help eliminate the need for the reliance on sound. It's a two step process to better picking technique of security pins. Well done!
I struggled with American locks for so long I watched this video a month ago and still struggled until I put it in a Vice after putting it in a Vice and using heavy tension I could hear the difference so much clearer and now Can open them like any other lock thank you so much lpl!! A lot of people try and explain it but your video is the key for me
@LPL - Thank you for the videos, while i understand your not really a "teaching" or "instructional" channel for new people, I personally find that some of your best videos are the more instructional. To make it a little easier for a "New to the hobby" find theses videos might i suggest you create a "Educational" play list? I have watched your video on "tension" but i haven't found any video's on "tool selection". While many of your videos are great for the intermediate to advanced picker, but often you lose me as a new to the hobby. Love the content you go a great job explaining everything and i am sure it will make more sense to me once i know more.
Yeah I jumped in on the deep end when I started watching LPL. Now after a couple months of doing more reading on the subject and getting a basic set of picks, I'm starting to understand the finer points. I still suck at picking, but I'm developing a finer understanding of the nuances and which skills I need to develop.
What a great expectation of setting serrated pins👍 The set sound is much more pronounced when compared to serrations passing the sheer line😀 Great educational video👍😀✌️
Intriguing concept, I've used an amplifier to open combination locks, but never pin tumblers - It's sight, sound and touch combined, to manipulate a combination lock, but sound and touch for a serrated pin tumbler, I like it. By the way I heard there's a massive snow storm coming your way, stay safe. Regards, Brian.
+Brian Hignett Thanks. The storm's on top of me now... started snowing about 2pm here, and its not going to stop until midnight tomorrow. Should be about 2.5 feet of snow. I've battened down the hatches here with my family with plenty of food... no reason to leave the house, so we should be fine. My son has never seen this much snow, so he's having a blast! Thanks for asking. PS - I'll post the first video on your package tomorrow.
Very helpful, I’m hard of hearing and wasn’t wearing my hearing aids usually when picking and kept over setting serrated pins. Just tried picking with me ears in and made all the difference. Thank you!
I just want to say thank you. This video helped tremendously with opening my nemesis, an old military American 5200. Finally got it open tonight, and this was incredibly helpful in making that happen.
Thank you very much for this video. The American 1100 has had me stumped for over a month now. My second attempt after this video I got it. Thank you again.
Hi LPL. I have nice reference monitors and produce sounds myself so i guess my ears are more attuned to subtle dynamic differences. I could hear the differences even through your microphone each time. You're inspiring me to get into lockpicking as a hobby and my interest has yet to wane. Hope you enjoy your work and have a good weekend.
A very good and helpfull video. I'm new to picking and just starting out but what you said made perfect sense and I could clearly hear the difference. this will really help as my picking progresses and I encounter those pesky serrated pins, thankyou.
Nice. Totally makes sense and can hear it just fine! I'm going to find me a lock with serations and try picking it. Just starting. Have a handful of locks I work on. Just started picking spools too 😎😎 woot woot haha
Great and very informative video. Thanks for sharing! I like also for standard pins a quiet environment. Sometimes I can't feel, if the pin is set in a RIM cylinder or not.
I sing in a barbershop quartet and can hear pitch pretty well. Instead of dull and sharp, I could hear the pitch on click one then the higher sound on click two and in the case of three clicks, an even brighter sound on the third. Whatever the nomenclature, I understand what you mean. Thanks.
My hearing isn't as good as it used to be, so I rely more on feel. With the Covert pin tumbler practice lock, I like to wait a while after I pin it so that I forget which pins are where. I do keep a log of how I pin it each time. Then with feel I can tell the serrated from the spool driver pins. It's pretty cool! Thanks.
I get nervous pushing the same pin after 1 click for fear of over setting it unless it didnt feel right, I usually have loud background noise so I have to do it by feel.
@@zbyszekradzimi4066 Usually the driver pins are what prevents the core from turning, and the key pins (the pens the key acts on directly) are used to push the driver pins out of the way and up to the sheer line. When you overset "it" we are referring to the key pens being pushed so far up that they are now acting like a driver pin, thus preventing the core from rotating.
Thank you so much! This has really helped me out :) I'm also having some trouble with knowing how much tension to let off when I get to a spool false set, but I'm sure enough practice will help!
Fantastic work. Thank you for sharing this stuff. You are very good at these things. I just find it so fascinating. How can something so boring be so cool.
I wonder if age of ears, and the ability to hear higher frequencies, affects your ability to distinguish between the spool duller clicks and when the pin is set. To my ear, I could hear a difference. I'm also listening using Bose higher end head phones vs laptop speakers.
brilliant !!! very informative. I also wondering what you ment but thought nothing of it in the past videos., and yes I hear it . saved video to favourite's to watch again later thanks...
Very interesting video. I think it would be fun for you to feed the sound, from picking locks, into an oscilloscope or some sort of computerised audio-sampling gismo and show people the shape of sound waves from false sets and true sets.
Hello, LPL. You say you had to rely less on listening with your ears... I would like you to say something about 'relaxation'... and 'listening' with your hands and fingers. How do you avoid tension in the arms, shoulders etc... was this something you had to work on? I study Tai Chi and do Push Hands which is all about 'seeing and listening' with your hands , your 'touch' to your partner. I started picking locks (during covid) to help me become more aware of how tense I can actually become without noticing ... any comments? (love your videos).
Radio Shack used to sell microphones built into a small rubber suction cup. I have one in fact. If you're unable to locate one I guess I can part with mine. I think the original use was to record conversations from a telephone headset. I used it for that doing marketing surveys way back in the 90's. It has a 1/8th jack. They probably still sell them and I bet they're still inexpensive. Let me know.
I also remember having gotten one of those from Radio Shack, in the late 70's, or early 80's. Probably only used it once or twice. Can't remember, how good it worked ... though :(
I'm picking a storage disk lock (the kind with the shackle inside the circumference) and I swear I'm up against some serrated pins but I can't hear a damn thing. I feel some feedback occasionally, but I'm not getting any rotation, false sets, or counterrotation no matter how I try individual picking attacks, with light or heavy tension. I assume I just got an improved design and will need to practice on lesser difficulty locks until I eventually develop the skills to crack this one, but for the moment I am utterly stumped by it. No forward progress at all after picking in 10 minute sessions for weeks.
Granted that i do have hearing loss from my career ( security ops and technical, meaning alarms), and my audio device was sub par ( phones don't hive good audio, even in this day and age), but to be honest, i wasn't hearing what you meant by a sharp or dull click. I was however hearing the spring reverb as the impulse was reflected back into it, when the pin came to a firm halt
Seems like the "set" rings a bit more, like Tac Tac Ting. Might help to use a stethoscope, or a contact microphone. You can buy or make a contact mic easily from a cheap piezo disc mic.
That buddy was very useful.🤔🤔 Thank you so so much👍👍😘 Do you just utilise this method with American locks or do you think it will work on most others?? Top vid,a must for pickers everywhere😘🍻🔓👍👍👍
If you were unaware of the binding pin order and how you found binder 1 and so on that wouldve helped greatly i get the feedback part but i saw no feedback tell you whent strait to the first binding pin knowing were it was and telling exactly pin numbers what exact pic specs as well makes for better tutorial still dig the vids
Amazing video. Although, I still can't differentiate the sounds. I think I heard like what reminded me of two metals lightly tapping each other. Is that what the sharp noise is supposed to sound like when you say sharp? Like ting. 😅lol.
Hey LPL. I'm sure it's not necessary but what do you think of a stethoscope to increase the feedback on audio and filter out background noise if you're in a noisy environment? I'd like to think of myself as an advanced level lockpicker being able to pick American series consistently.
Matthew Richardson It's a difficult question to answer. Of course, the full range of nasty sidebar locks give me trouble... ASSA Twins, BiLock, Primus, Medeco, etc... high pin count and precision locks like the Kaba Expert and Quattro are very tough also. l couldn't begin to list all the locks that give me lots and lots of trouble. But beyond that, any given lock can surprise you with it's difficulty or ease. I've spent 15 minutes before picking a 4 pin master lock, and I've spent 30 seconds picking a Medeco. There will always be outliers in the difficulty range, so I never take my ability to open any lock for granted.
Can you please make a video on the locks where the core doesn't turn? Such locks where the key goes inside the lock and the casing outside stays in place. The problem is that you can't apply tension fro the outside. Thanks in advance!
I know it's an older video but a tad confused on something. The first time you went through it the 3rd pin had two clicks only (3:05), then the second (3:48) and third (4:37) time it had three clicks. What am I missing?
@@michaelsousa590 Yeah, i heard the light one before but what was throwing me off is he specifically says, "1 dull and then a sharp", which is two. Then on the 2nd and 3rd time he says two dulls and a sharp. Maybe he was just focused on the picking and not what he was saying. Anyway, not going to get hung up on it. Cheers and thanks for the reply.
I'm at a definite disadvantage for these lol I'm hearing impaired and although I'm not completely deaf I do struggle to hear these small sounds and pick completely by feel. Good thing it's just a hobby for me lol
Sometimes the sharp sounds really pingggggg making them distinct. I'm listening on my phone and I had to put the speaker right next to my ear but I imagine headphones would be useful. Presumably it would help a lot if you use some kind of pick up attached to the lock or microphone close by as in this video and headphones. Especially in a noisier environment. Do some pickers do this?
I have an ace padlock like this I finally got open after about 5 weeks off and on. First serrated lock I've picked! Anyway, do you notice more sound when you use a vice? I have never picked with one yet.
Great video, I wanted to know that same answer of when pin's set. Your comment fron BB's recent audio vid got me here. I've been looking for a good lapel Mic, can you tell me what you use, it sounds great.✌😎
Cool, I dont understand why I can hear the clicking of the pins so well on this video yet whenever I try my lock in real life I cant hear or feel a thing.
Maybe with headphones it's different, but with all but the 1st pin when it set you could hear it ring. Thats how I could tell. Might help you like it did me.
I obviously heard that I am Green With Envy. I live alone on a fixed income and just find it difficult to acquire the funds four set of pics but I will make it happen I really need something to occupy my time
Still can't beat the American 1100. And bypassing it doesn't count. Even looking at the key cuts right next to me it still doesn't make sense. I'm stumped. But I'm still fairly green. Need to try progressive pinning!
+JB I increase tension solely to amplify sound feedback... on every 700 series that I've picked (with the exception of the series 747), the spring tension on the core doesn't engage until just beyond the false set.
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Best video I've seen on picking serrated pins. Many thanks, LPL.
Thanks -- hope it is helpful.
@@lockpickinglawyer The very *essence* of helpful, thank You
Mmm pizza!
I pick by sound too, it's a helpful skill to pick up you can tell a spool, a serrated, and in lockwoods especially, over sets are particularly distinct
HI LPL I uploaded a vid, and used a bit of a spoof tittle that includes your YT moniker, I trust you wont mind but should you have any concern or in the unlikely event you take offence I shall be happy to re tittle the vid
I'm shocked this one has so few views (under 50,000 four years later, at this point it seems like a new LPL video will get 100,000 in the first hour). By far this is one of the best videos he's ever released.
Well I guess that shows the difference in his audience between those who want to learn and those who just want to see lock companies get wrecked.
I agree! Looking through the uploaded videos from old to new sure is paying off.
i've searched for serated pin vidoes over and over and still never found this. not until i searched Brave instead of youtube directly did i find this
I hope to see the addition of a Lock Mic in more videos throughout the community. I'm half deaf sometimes, and the clicks were clear enough to differentiate. Great video!
+vanderticked I hadn't considered that, but it seems like an interesting, and potentially useful idea... I'll see if there is an easy way to do that. It might be helpful to many.
+LockPickingLawyer Awesome!
I couldn't help but get to thinking...I used to have a pickup for an upright bass from my high school jazz band days that I think would work great for amplifying lock sounds. The Fishman Pickup. Rather than picking up sounds in the air, and then amplifying them, the pickup works by picking up the vibrations through physical contact with the instrument. Similar to how throat mics work. Also, I bet a throat mic would work great, too. You know, as a suggestion to anyone that might happen to have access to either of these types of mics.
I think that would be too much. I tried attaching the mic to my tension wrench, and the noise was overwhelming... every little scratch came through! I did lots of experimenting with mic placement, and this was the best I could manage with the tools on hand.
Damn good outcome it was! I can see how the problems could pile up the more sensitive the mic being used is, creating the need for additional equipment and advanced audio manipulation.
That would work with a piezo pickup, but not a regular wire wound pickup. Piezo disks are dirt cheap. It would probably work best if you use a paperclip to attach it to your tensioning tool.
It's an older video but VERY useful. Thank you for taking the time to point out the difference in the sound. As you stated that you use sound in picking, I can now use this to help develop the feel in the feed back on the tension wrench as well as the pick, as to help eliminate the need for the reliance on sound. It's a two step process to better picking technique of security pins. Well done!
I struggled with American locks for so long I watched this video a month ago and still struggled until I put it in a Vice after putting it in a Vice and using heavy tension I could hear the difference so much clearer and now Can open them like any other lock thank you so much lpl!! A lot of people try and explain it but your video is the key for me
@LPL - Thank you for the videos, while i understand your not really a "teaching" or "instructional" channel for new people, I personally find that some of your best videos are the more instructional. To make it a little easier for a "New to the hobby" find theses videos might i suggest you create a "Educational" play list? I have watched your video on "tension" but i haven't found any video's on "tool selection". While many of your videos are great for the intermediate to advanced picker, but often you lose me as a new to the hobby. Love the content you go a great job explaining everything and i am sure it will make more sense to me once i know more.
Yeah I jumped in on the deep end when I started watching LPL. Now after a couple months of doing more reading on the subject and getting a basic set of picks, I'm starting to understand the finer points. I still suck at picking, but I'm developing a finer understanding of the nuances and which skills I need to develop.
What a great expectation of setting serrated pins👍
The set sound is much more pronounced when compared to serrations passing the sheer line😀
Great educational video👍😀✌️
You can hear a ringing as the pin sets, at least in this lock...
Thanks that clears up some stuff...👍🏻
Intriguing concept, I've used an amplifier to open combination locks, but never pin tumblers - It's sight, sound and touch combined, to manipulate a combination lock, but sound and touch for a serrated pin tumbler, I like it. By the way I heard there's a massive snow storm coming your way, stay safe. Regards, Brian.
+Brian Hignett Thanks. The storm's on top of me now... started snowing about 2pm here, and its not going to stop until midnight tomorrow. Should be about 2.5 feet of snow. I've battened down the hatches here with my family with plenty of food... no reason to leave the house, so we should be fine. My son has never seen this much snow, so he's having a blast! Thanks for asking. PS - I'll post the first video on your package tomorrow.
Very helpful, I’m hard of hearing and wasn’t wearing my hearing aids usually when picking and kept over setting serrated pins. Just tried picking with me ears in and made all the difference. Thank you!
I just want to say thank you. This video helped tremendously with opening my nemesis, an old military American 5200. Finally got it open tonight, and this was incredibly helpful in making that happen.
Headphones. They make a world of difference with this video. Thanks again, LPL.
Thank you very much for this video. The American 1100 has had me stumped for over a month now. My second attempt after this video I got it. Thank you again.
I couldn't tell a definitive difference in the clicks, but I did hear the spring resonating on the set. Interesting.
Hi LPL. I have nice reference monitors and produce sounds myself so i guess my ears are more attuned to subtle dynamic differences. I could hear the differences even through your microphone each time.
You're inspiring me to get into lockpicking as a hobby and my interest has yet to wane.
Hope you enjoy your work and have a good weekend.
Wow I really had no idea of the importance of the sound/feel correlation. Thanks for another great video.
This is great! It kind of sounds like a small bell ringing when it sets
BIg Jesse posted a picking video, and I asked how he new when to stop. He referred me to this video. Extremely helpful. Thank you.
oh wow, yeah the sound is really distinctive. very helpful. I don't plan on shying away from security pins, so this is essential viewing
A very good and helpfull video. I'm new to picking and just starting out but what you said made perfect sense and I could clearly hear the difference. this will really help as my picking progresses and I encounter those pesky serrated pins, thankyou.
Thanks, and good luck!
it's easier to hear the difference when you close your eyes
Nice. Totally makes sense and can hear it just fine! I'm going to find me a lock with serations and try picking it. Just starting. Have a handful of locks I work on. Just started picking spools too 😎😎 woot woot haha
Now I really have to try cranking tension a bit more as those clicks were great... Nice sharp sound on setting.
Good luck with it... it is this technique that allows me to speed through these locks, like you see in video 354.
Great and very informative video. Thanks for sharing! I like also for standard pins a quiet environment. Sometimes I can't feel, if the pin is set in a RIM cylinder or not.
Thanks. I think most of us practice in a quiet place. I never imagined how much of a handicap that can be.
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I sing in a barbershop quartet and can hear pitch pretty well. Instead of dull and sharp, I could hear the pitch on click one then the higher sound on click two and in the case of three clicks, an even brighter sound on the third. Whatever the nomenclature, I understand what you mean. Thanks.
My hearing isn't as good as it used to be, so I rely more on feel. With the Covert pin tumbler practice lock, I like to wait a while after I pin it so that I forget which pins are where. I do keep a log of how I pin it each time. Then with feel I can tell the serrated from the spool driver pins. It's pretty cool! Thanks.
Those pins amplified sound like my back cracking! 2 dull and a sharp! With headphones the sound is very distinct.
Fantastic tip. Massive thanks for sharing it so clearly
+MellowGrellow Thanks -- good luck in putting it to use!
I get nervous pushing the same pin after 1 click for fear of over setting it unless it didnt feel right, I usually have loud background noise so I have to do it by feel.
It can be done by feel, but for me, this is much faster. I listen to music or audiobooks when I practice now, just to limit my dependence on sound.
+LockPickingLawyer
rock out with your lock out! lol
sorry i am new to picking what happens when you overset it
@@zbyszekradzimi4066 when you overset, the lower pin is lifted up too high and crosses the shear line, preventing the cylinder from turning
@@zbyszekradzimi4066 Usually the driver pins are what prevents the core from turning, and the key pins (the pens the key acts on directly) are used to push the driver pins out of the way and up to the sheer line. When you overset "it" we are referring to the key pens being pushed so far up that they are now acting like a driver pin, thus preventing the core from rotating.
That was nicely done, thank you
+LOST FOUND Thank you.
LPL thank you for this video. I just opened my first American 1100 and this helped. I've been trying to open this lock for over a month lol
Excellent instruction. Thanks, Greg.....................
Thanks -- glad you found it helpful.
I love the sound of the pins! Great idea to put the mic that close. Thank you for that!
Thanks. I wish it came across better. It's much more obvious in person IMO.
Thank you so much! This has really helped me out :) I'm also having some trouble with knowing how much tension to let off when I get to a spool false set, but I'm sure enough practice will help!
Very very informative ! Thank you LPL
Fantastic work. Thank you for sharing this stuff. You are very good at these things. I just find it so fascinating. How can something so boring be so cool.
Fantastic! You really ought to put the microphone next to the lock in All of your videos!
glad I found this vid. You're just as good as Bosnian bill :) definately subscribing.
Thanks for the kind words... and for the sub. :-)
I think this guy's better...
Very interesting video and great picking. To be honest I could not hear a difference but I will definitely try your advice.
+Potti314 It's MUCH easier to tell in person. Just use a little extra tension to amplify the sounds.
I wonder if age of ears, and the ability to hear higher frequencies, affects your ability to distinguish between the spool duller clicks and when the pin is set. To my ear, I could hear a difference. I'm also listening using Bose higher end head phones vs laptop speakers.
brilliant !!! very informative. I also wondering what you ment but thought nothing of it in the past videos., and yes I hear it . saved video to favourite's to watch again later thanks...
+tonyholt90 Thanks -- I hope its helpful.
Great idea, thanks for this. I've played around once with a stethoscope taped to a lock. :)
That sounds painfully loud! No?
A whooole lot of noise going on, yes. But you do these things sometimes when hunting for clues. :)
Very interesting video.
I think it would be fun for you to feed the sound, from picking locks, into an oscilloscope or some sort of computerised audio-sampling gismo and show people the shape of sound waves from false sets and true sets.
I like that!
Hello, LPL. You say you had to rely less on listening with your ears... I would like you to say something about 'relaxation'... and 'listening' with your hands and fingers. How do you avoid tension in the arms, shoulders etc... was this something you had to work on? I study Tai Chi and do Push Hands which is all about 'seeing and listening' with your hands , your 'touch' to your partner. I started picking locks (during covid) to help me become more aware of how tense I can actually become without noticing ... any comments? (love your videos).
Radio Shack used to sell microphones built into a small rubber suction cup. I have one in fact. If you're unable to locate one I guess I can part with mine. I think the original use was to record conversations from a telephone headset. I used it for that doing marketing surveys way back in the 90's. It has a 1/8th jack. They probably still sell them and I bet they're still inexpensive. Let me know.
I used to have one of those back in the 80s. Yes they were for phones.
I also remember having gotten one of those from Radio Shack, in the late 70's, or early 80's. Probably only used it once or twice. Can't remember, how good it worked ... though :(
it picks up a lot of the finger movements as pops. and if you have a chain attached to lock those pops are deafening.
Best ASMR video, I've ever seen!
brilliant Harry, great video mate.
Thanks... FYI- posting the bks later today.
Great Video!!! I picked first try after hearing the diff!!!!
Can totally hear the difference. Duht for dull and dit for sharp.
Thank you for the heads up you really explained that’s in the best way possible 👍cheers
I can hear a faint ringing noise when they set.
You've got better ears than me. I'm even listening with headphones and the volume cranked and I didn't hear that.
@@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017 i had my laptops speaker next to my ear you can hear a slight ringing it sounds very metallic compared to the others
I'm too old to hear the sharp clicks 😭
Does anyone use a stethoscope whole picking? Would likely increase "accuracy"
@m14wdotcom: uhhh... what is/are the other ways?
@@kennethalbert4653 go on TH-cam and type lock picking lawyer. You're welcome
@@KomenCents thanks, I am very familiar, guy is brilliant
@@kennethalbert4653 I've been looking for a cheap stethoscope to help me too. I'm almost deaf.
I'm picking a storage disk lock (the kind with the shackle inside the circumference) and I swear I'm up against some serrated pins but I can't hear a damn thing. I feel some feedback occasionally, but I'm not getting any rotation, false sets, or counterrotation no matter how I try individual picking attacks, with light or heavy tension. I assume I just got an improved design and will need to practice on lesser difficulty locks until I eventually develop the skills to crack this one, but for the moment I am utterly stumped by it. No forward progress at all after picking in 10 minute sessions for weeks.
very nice mate! cheers
+crispey bear Thanks.
Granted that i do have hearing loss from my career ( security ops and technical, meaning alarms), and my audio device was sub par ( phones don't hive good audio, even in this day and age), but to be honest, i wasn't hearing what you meant by a sharp or dull click. I was however hearing the spring reverb as the impulse was reflected back into it, when the pin came to a firm halt
Seems like the "set" rings a bit more, like Tac Tac Ting.
Might help to use a stethoscope, or a contact microphone.
You can buy or make a contact mic easily from a cheap piezo disc mic.
That buddy was very useful.🤔🤔
Thank you so so much👍👍😘
Do you just utilise this method with American locks or do you think it will work on most others??
Top vid,a must for pickers everywhere😘🍻🔓👍👍👍
Ah yes, I should remember my self to pick all my American Locks at some point. So far, I'm at 3 out of 11 American Locks that I own.
If you were unaware of the binding pin order and how you found binder 1 and so on that wouldve helped greatly i get the feedback part but i saw no feedback tell you whent strait to the first binding pin knowing were it was and telling exactly pin numbers what exact pic specs as well makes for better tutorial still dig the vids
Awesome information!
ty. this perked my "ears" up!
Awesome video !! great advice ! ! thank you for sharing this with us !! :)
+Lukes Locks Thanks.
I hear it now, "thunk" versus "snap" thank you
Well done.
Going to try this today on my Ace Hardware 700 clone, thanks LPL.
I tried it on an 1100 that I have, and I definitely do hear the exact same low-then-high pitch differences. Thanks man!
Awesome video. It just gave me an idea.
+Papa Gleb Thanks... and this idea? Do share!
Amazing video. Although, I still can't differentiate the sounds. I think I heard like what reminded me of two metals lightly tapping each other. Is that what the sharp noise is supposed to sound like when you say sharp? Like ting. 😅lol.
Nice, now i’m gona put serrated pins in my door lock and hide a little speaker that makes weird noises 𗀉𗀝
Hey LPL. I'm sure it's not necessary but what do you think of a stethoscope to increase the feedback on audio and filter out background noise if you're in a noisy environment? I'd like to think of myself as an advanced level lockpicker being able to pick American series consistently.
I don't know if you have any cheap microphones, but if you could 'glue' or bind it to the surface of the lock you'll hear a totally different world
LPL: I'm the LockPickingLawyer.
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Thank you for the vid. Can you please do a video like this on American 5200 locks? I am having such a hard time SPPing that lock.
A contact microphone would work well with this. Where's Martin from wintergatan when you need him?
great vid learning all the time can i ask how long you have been picking
Thanks... it will have been 2 years in February since I started picking.
you must have pick a lot of locks you have very good understanding of them all which do u still find hard
Matthew Richardson It's a difficult question to answer. Of course, the full range of nasty sidebar locks give me trouble... ASSA Twins, BiLock, Primus, Medeco, etc... high pin count and precision locks like the Kaba Expert and Quattro are very tough also. l couldn't begin to list all the locks that give me lots and lots of trouble. But beyond that, any given lock can surprise you with it's difficulty or ease. I've spent 15 minutes before picking a 4 pin master lock, and I've spent 30 seconds picking a Medeco. There will always be outliers in the difficulty range, so I never take my ability to open any lock for granted.
Great help Thanks will try that.
Thanks-- good luck!
Can you please make a video on the locks where the core doesn't turn? Such locks where the key goes inside the lock and the casing outside stays in place. The problem is that you can't apply tension fro the outside. Thanks in advance!
I know it's an older video but a tad confused on something. The first time you went through it the 3rd pin had two clicks only (3:05), then the second (3:48) and third (4:37) time it had three clicks. What am I missing?
@@michaelsousa590 Yeah, i heard the light one before but what was throwing me off is he specifically says, "1 dull and then a sharp", which is two. Then on the 2nd and 3rd time he says two dulls and a sharp. Maybe he was just focused on the picking and not what he was saying. Anyway, not going to get hung up on it. Cheers and thanks for the reply.
I'm at a definite disadvantage for these lol I'm hearing impaired and although I'm not completely deaf I do struggle to hear these small sounds and pick completely by feel. Good thing it's just a hobby for me lol
I have so much trouble feeling the pins, sometimes I have to pull my pick lightly from the back just to feel the dropped pins
Sometimes the sharp sounds really pingggggg making them distinct. I'm listening on my phone and I had to put the speaker right next to my ear but I imagine headphones would be useful.
Presumably it would help a lot if you use some kind of pick up attached to the lock or microphone close by as in this video and headphones. Especially in a noisier environment. Do some pickers do this?
I have an ace padlock like this I finally got open after about 5 weeks off and on. First serrated lock I've picked! Anyway, do you notice more sound when you use a vice? I have never picked with one yet.
I've never noticed a difference... but I also rarely put padlocks in the vice anymore. Seems too much like cheating. :-(
Very helpful👍 thanks
I was watching the tension bar also, it seems feel also helps,,,
Great video, I wanted to know that same answer of when pin's set. Your comment fron BB's recent audio vid got me here. I've been looking for a good lapel Mic, can you tell me what you use, it sounds great.✌😎
Cool, I dont understand why I can hear the clicking of the pins so well on this video yet whenever I try my lock in real life I cant hear or feel a thing.
+Smuckers T not enough tension? Or maybe you lock is full of schmoo, in which case you need to give it a blast of spray solvent.
Maybe with headphones it's different, but with all but the 1st pin when it set you could hear it ring. Thats how I could tell. Might help you like it did me.
I obviously heard that I am Green With Envy. I live alone on a fixed income and just find it difficult to acquire the funds four set of pics but I will make it happen I really need something to occupy my time
i'm going to pick up a vice to pick and get a microphone and try this
my sense wasn't that good after multiple spider bites
Still can't beat the American 1100. And bypassing it doesn't count. Even looking at the key cuts right next to me it still doesn't make sense. I'm stumped. But I'm still fairly green. Need to try progressive pinning!
I like lock sport 👍🏻
Are you Ian from FORGOTTEN WEAPONS??!
Can def hearthe difference in the picks.
Thanks very helpful
Learnt from that thank u
don't you have to crank up the tension on those cause there's spring tension?
+JB I increase tension solely to amplify sound feedback... on every 700 series that I've picked (with the exception of the series 747), the spring tension on the core doesn't engage until just beyond the false set.
I just started practicing while I watch your videos, is there a major difference in feel as well?
Yes, but you need to take a moment and probe the pin. Sound is FAST.
wow thats a lot of subscribers. half a million wow
Did you start training with a headset and music?
I don't know how to pick a lock, I don't know what kind of lock is that, but I had fun