Just for context, in this sentence I say that mono heroism got screwed compared to mono villainy. Because outside of that, the best cards and leaders in the set imo are heroism ;).
A 5 drops that has no immediate impact on the board and require coordinate to work properly is simply not a very good card, there are far better ECL target in general.
I totally agree. I play Aayla in a Jedi deck with ECL. Not so difficult to trigger Coordinate When the Leader deploys, then she is very efficient in my opinion. Love this card.
I found him to be extemly clunky at best. At 5 cost his stats are bad and I found that most often than not, they are way better, and way more impactful things to play. To be fair - if he would be swaped with Rex Leader, that would be way better. as such for me he either win more or do nothing type of unit.
Great analysis. P-38 is basically a better Interceptor. I'll take the choice of 1 damage in two instances in either field over three damage in space only most of the time. And it is less expensive than the Interceptor. Vigilance Heroism: "Jesus Christ, this combination got really screwed over." LOL. I mean, you're not wrong. I think several of the new bases, including Petranaki, will see play in Twin Suns.
Poor Vigilance Heroism, again, but totally agree. I am fairly curious about Ziro the Hutt, not sure if the effects are too niche for a 5 drop to be impactful, but I feel Ziro has potential.
I think the best Heroism Surveillance card is Obi-Wan's Aethersprite, followed by Hello There as the second, and Satine as the third. In Han Blue, Obi-Wan's Aethersprite is a 4/4 for 4 that can take down something in the early-game space. And let’s not even talk about its power if played in another deck with access to ECL, where it can destroy capital ships. I believe it's a mistake not to give it more credit, as it has virtually no competition.
I can see a meta where Aethersprite can be very good but it's going to be extremely meta dependant, even in the right meta I don't the card is great. But in any case I think Blue/white is extremely weak in this set and regardless of what you put in the top 3 it's not gonna matter that much.
Hello, For now I don't want to talk further about banning, we still need to see how the set 3 meta develops (even though I am not very optimistic). To understand how the meta will develop in case of a Boba ban, we first need to see how the meta develop with the introduction of set 3. Remember that even a handful of strong cards can have massive butterfly effect on the meta.
Great video!! I hope that Boba gets banned pre-Galactic Championship...Otherwise, i think that the impact of this set in the meta is going to be even worse than set 2.
I agree that Yoda is the best leader in this set and as Boba ecl player in set 2, after about 100-150 games with TWT I think that it is one of the additional reasons why banning boba makes no sense. Green Boba is not able to beat yoda in tempo without very lucky draws. It would have to take half or most of the sideboard on devasators and relentlesses. Yellow or red Boba has a better chance but these decks die from quira, with my version of quira I never lost a single game to yellow boba in the second or in the third set, quira will probably become the best positioned deck of the new meta thanks to good matchups on boba, yoda, dooku, or sabine and the meta will be dominated by another leader like boba, krennic, or sabine used to be.
Well that's not my experience AT ALL, my Yoda red doesn't win to boba green unless Yoda gets the best draw, the late deploy is always a problem against boba in general.
@@Thorrk_THT maybe the problem is the color because I had the worst luck with green and yellow yoda, or maybe I just don't know how to build the green boba in set 3 xd, this is also possible because i almost no add new cards to old decks considering them weak.
3 drops for Sabine is pretty stacked. How can we play Huyang and jesse both? When Red three, cassian, leutenant, and Wing leader are auto-include in Rebel heavy deck, and there is also FFF?
I don't like Huyang in Sabine, it distrub FCBI just for a weaker wing leader , not worth it imo. Jesse I think is worth playing but not an auto include.
I found poggle to be VERY dissapointing, in a Dooku deck (which is by far the best way to run exploit in constructed) you want to use exploit right from turn 2 so poggle turn 1 is not what you are looking for , seconly poggle is a terrible card when played any later than turn 1. Great in draft but not good in constructed simply too slow.
@Thorrk_THT Why doesnt he work? 4 body is good to survive and trickers on all units. To be fair, i have used him in a Palp deck, thats not meant for hardcore exploit. Here he works really well so far. Just have a hard time seeing why he doesnt work in Dooku.
@@Lynx1803 because dooku wants to exploit right from turn 2 (and sometimes even on turn 1, so if you trader/courrier or droid deployment t1 you can exploit and still have an other body to exploit while with poggle you would need to exploit him which is very bad value.
I found poggle to be VERY disappointing, in a Dooku deck (which is by far the best way to run exploit in constructed) you want to use exploit right from turn 2 so poggle turn 1 is not what you are looking for , seconly poggle is a terrible card when played any later than turn 1. Great in draft but not good in constructed simply too slow.
@@sidious256 ECL needs to be errata to 4 cost or less. That will help with the Sabine issue. Or ban ECL too. It is too powerful compared to the other bases
I made an entire video about it ;) : th-cam.com/video/3LqEW04lwXM/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=Thorrk%27sHotTakes Think the key difference is that even though Sabine is very strong she can be countered if you decide to. I don't think we need Boba to keep Sabine in check, there are plenty of other decks that can beat Sabine, Qira can be built to beat sabine, Cad bane does well vs sabine, Young han too, Bossk blue has an excellent MU vs Sabine... Besides, if Sabine was banned, people will just play Han2 green and it's almost the same deck, and very similar in powerlevel.
Thanks for the review. Having played 2 pre-releases... and a third one today... I agree with most of your choices. However, you may be incorrectly judging Dooku in regards to his deploy cost. In my first 2 pre-releases I went 4-1 and 3-1 with the only game losses coming to Dooku decks (that both felt like constructed decks). His stats are incredible... hitting with Overwhelm 5 and 9 on the back end... he's in 'ramp' colour. Pair this with Commander Cody's 1/1 buff and any Sentinel unit such as B2 Legionnaires and you're in big trouble! And lets just say FFG actually take action against Boba... possibly making him deploy on 6... Dooku on 7 seems just right to me... and I think this will be competitive. I myself... could be wrong. We shall see. Cheers bud
Thanks Keep in mind that this video is ONLY about constructed, indeed deploying at 7 is completely fine in limited but in construected it's big limitation esoecially for what the leader is trying to do.
"Heroism got really screwed compared to villainy" This statement is true every set lol
Just for context, in this sentence I say that mono heroism got screwed compared to mono villainy. Because outside of that, the best cards and leaders in the set imo are heroism ;).
I laughed so hard when you talked about blue heroism 😂
I feel like Ayla Secura got completely overlooked as well. With ambush, on most leader flip turns, she's can easily take over the table
A 5 drops that has no immediate impact on the board and require coordinate to work properly is simply not a very good card, there are far better ECL target in general.
@@Thorrk_THT I think she's just really good with Rex or Quinlan ECL
@@Thorrk_THTwith blue green? I think she's one of the best ones if you play a leader that can' sustain units *COUGH* LUKE *COUGH*
I totally agree.
I play Aayla in a Jedi deck with ECL. Not so difficult to trigger Coordinate When the Leader deploys, then she is very efficient in my opinion. Love this card.
Cody deserves a spot in single green. Buffing anything in any green deck. Pretty good imo
I found him to be extemly clunky at best. At 5 cost his stats are bad and I found that most often than not, they are way better, and way more impactful things to play. To be fair - if he would be swaped with Rex Leader, that would be way better. as such for me he either win more or do nothing type of unit.
5 drops that has no immediate impact on the board and require coordinate to work properly is simply not a very good card
Great analysis. P-38 is basically a better Interceptor. I'll take the choice of 1 damage in two instances in either field over three damage in space only most of the time. And it is less expensive than the Interceptor. Vigilance Heroism: "Jesus Christ, this combination got really screwed over." LOL. I mean, you're not wrong. I think several of the new bases, including Petranaki, will see play in Twin Suns.
Worth mentioning that Twice the Pride on a Grit unit is insane..
Poor Vigilance Heroism, again, but totally agree. I am fairly curious about Ziro the Hutt, not sure if the effects are too niche for a 5 drop to be impactful, but I feel Ziro has potential.
I think the best Heroism Surveillance card is Obi-Wan's Aethersprite, followed by Hello There as the second, and Satine as the third. In Han Blue, Obi-Wan's Aethersprite is a 4/4 for 4 that can take down something in the early-game space. And let’s not even talk about its power if played in another deck with access to ECL, where it can destroy capital ships. I believe it's a mistake not to give it more credit, as it has virtually no competition.
I can see a meta where Aethersprite can be very good but it's going to be extremely meta dependant, even in the right meta I don't the card is great.
But in any case I think Blue/white is extremely weak in this set and regardless of what you put in the top 3 it's not gonna matter that much.
@@Thorrk_THT if we're talking meta dependent, Obi-Wan's Aethersprite is one of the only units that can trade with Firespray for cheaper.
@@sylinminocards insane can even trade with avenger if you have a way to ambush it don't think fire spray and avenger will be leaving the meta either
Agree,Aethersprite has been excellent for me so far.
What do you think the meta will look like if Boba gets banned? Maybe an idea for a video? And would you think more cards will get banned?
Hello,
For now I don't want to talk further about banning, we still need to see how the set 3 meta develops (even though I am not very optimistic).
To understand how the meta will develop in case of a Boba ban, we first need to see how the meta develop with the introduction of set 3. Remember that even a handful of strong cards can have massive butterfly effect on the meta.
Can you rank the cards from previous sets that got better with set 3?
yes great idea
Should Petranaki have been red?
Great video!! I hope that Boba gets banned pre-Galactic Championship...Otherwise, i think that the impact of this set in the meta is going to be even worse than set 2.
Galactic championship is in July next year so yeah I hope they banned him before that ahahah
Wait for today statement from Asmodee :)
@@ruttalisk5680 What statement?
@@jaimelloretgarcia2878 guess you should know by now :)
So when we gonna see an updated Han1 list? 👀
soon :)
@@Thorrk_THT you think Han1 green can get back? R2 is very solid for him to get that ramp.
@@Thorrk_THT excited to see that. I took your Han Green list to win a PQ week 1
Nice, b2 legionnaires and anakin leader won me a prerelease
Enfys Nest is going to be so good in Boba Fett, Daimyo
I agree that Yoda is the best leader in this set and as Boba ecl player in set 2, after about 100-150 games with TWT I think that it is one of the additional reasons why banning boba makes no sense. Green Boba is not able to beat yoda in tempo without very lucky draws. It would have to take half or most of the sideboard on devasators and relentlesses. Yellow or red Boba has a better chance but these decks die from quira, with my version of quira I never lost a single game to yellow boba in the second or in the third set, quira will probably become the best positioned deck of the new meta thanks to good matchups on boba, yoda, dooku, or sabine and the meta will be dominated by another leader like boba, krennic, or sabine used to be.
Well that's not my experience AT ALL, my Yoda red doesn't win to boba green unless Yoda gets the best draw, the late deploy is always a problem against boba in general.
@@Thorrk_THT maybe the problem is the color because I had the worst luck with green and yellow yoda, or maybe I just don't know how to build the green boba in set 3 xd, this is also possible because i almost no add new cards to old decks considering them weak.
3 drops for Sabine is pretty stacked. How can we play Huyang and jesse both? When Red three, cassian, leutenant, and Wing leader are auto-include in Rebel heavy deck, and there is also FFF?
I don't like Huyang in Sabine, it distrub FCBI just for a weaker wing leader , not worth it imo. Jesse I think is worth playing but not an auto include.
I think you miss Poggle, imo one of, if not the best droid token enablers 🙏
I found poggle to be VERY dissapointing, in a Dooku deck (which is by far the best way to run exploit in constructed) you want to use exploit right from turn 2 so poggle turn 1 is not what you are looking for , seconly poggle is a terrible card when played any later than turn 1. Great in draft but not good in constructed simply too slow.
@Thorrk_THT Why doesnt he work? 4 body is good to survive and trickers on all units. To be fair, i have used him in a Palp deck, thats not meant for hardcore exploit. Here he works really well so far.
Just have a hard time seeing why he doesnt work in Dooku.
@@Lynx1803 because dooku wants to exploit right from turn 2 (and sometimes even on turn 1, so if you trader/courrier or droid deployment t1 you can exploit and still have an other body to exploit while with poggle you would need to exploit him which is very bad value.
@@Thorrk_THT Makes sense 🙏
You forgot to mention that Brain Invaders is real good cou nter to Palpatine.
Great video!
Really surprised to see no mention at all of Quinlan Vos.
I think you are sleeping on him.
Your top 3 cards of the set can all play in his deck.
No indeed I don't think very highly of Quinlan, his is certainly playable but doesn't come close to the 5 leaders I mentioned in this ranking.
No poggle ? Why ?
I found poggle to be VERY disappointing, in a Dooku deck (which is by far the best way to run exploit in constructed) you want to use exploit right from turn 2 so poggle turn 1 is not what you are looking for , seconly poggle is a terrible card when played any later than turn 1. Great in draft but not good in constructed simply too slow.
@@Thorrk_THT for palpatine SOR, I think it's the best card in the set, but it's true that it's a little-played deck.
Is Boba getting banned confirmed?
No absolutely not. If it was I would have changed my ranking in consequence.
Great content ! Let see 4 months later if you were right Ahahah (with another video)
yes that's the idea :)
You mention quite a lot that you think Boba will be banned. What makes you so confident?
Personally would not like to see that
The larger community would disagree. Why would you play a game where everyone is just playing Boba.
I dont think he will be banned, if hes banned sabine just takes the whole game
@@sidious256 ECL needs to be errata to 4 cost or less. That will help with the Sabine issue. Or ban ECL too. It is too powerful compared to the other bases
@@juanbonilla1006 ecl would be a good change, the true problem is boba armor i think
I made an entire video about it ;) : th-cam.com/video/3LqEW04lwXM/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=Thorrk%27sHotTakes
Think the key difference is that even though Sabine is very strong she can be countered if you decide to. I don't think we need Boba to keep Sabine in check, there are plenty of other decks that can beat Sabine, Qira can be built to beat sabine, Cad bane does well vs sabine, Young han too, Bossk blue has an excellent MU vs Sabine...
Besides, if Sabine was banned, people will just play Han2 green and it's almost the same deck, and very similar in powerlevel.
Thanks for the review.
Having played 2 pre-releases... and a third one today... I agree with most of your choices. However, you may be incorrectly judging Dooku in regards to his deploy cost. In my first 2 pre-releases I went 4-1 and 3-1 with the only game losses coming to Dooku decks (that both felt like constructed decks). His stats are incredible... hitting with Overwhelm 5 and 9 on the back end... he's in 'ramp' colour. Pair this with Commander Cody's 1/1 buff and any Sentinel unit such as B2 Legionnaires and you're in big trouble!
And lets just say FFG actually take action against Boba... possibly making him deploy on 6... Dooku on 7 seems just right to me... and I think this will be competitive.
I myself... could be wrong. We shall see.
Cheers bud
Thanks
Keep in mind that this video is ONLY about constructed, indeed deploying at 7 is completely fine in limited but in construected it's big limitation esoecially for what the leader is trying to do.
I'm giving this video a 🥇