I just bought mine. I have the 800 so I heard if you don't have a great seal. Then when you turn off the grill, you lose more charcoal. So sealing is important. Plus I see a lot of dirty grills from it.
this was the original design way before anyone came up with the installed design but i still think this design holds up i feel like it seals better because the rubber gasket on this design seals against the fireblack gasket vs on the installed cover the rubber still has to seal on one side of the stainless cover and that rubber seems to be the issue of not sealing most of the time but it does great when up again the gasket.
@@KlotesMods For what its worth based on initial thoughts, I like this better because it can be cleaned far easier than an installed lid. I know a couple screws isn’t a big deal, and this one isn’t apparent when the lid is closed. I also like the idea of the hopper liner, although it seems a bit pricey relative to the firebox mod. Have you found there is enough breakdown in the hopper to justify this? The firebox is a no brainer bc there is no way allowing the mfrs walls to deteriorate leaving only the insulation/firebricks (depending on your iteration) is a good idea. Thanks for the vids and mods.
Is there a fix for the latch pulling on the heat shield? Seems odd that they put the latch hook on the heat shield without anchoring it too the lid structure which is more sturdy. The tension causes to hear shield to bend and the lid seal to not be as tight as it could be.
i had the latch totally come off on my 560. i drilled a couple holes in the latch and ran 2 screws all the way threw both the heat shield and the lid itself. working great now
i had the same problem i took a metal putty knife scraped it as good as i could and then used lacquer thinner to clean it. depending which model you have would depend on how heavy you go with the lacquer thinner. if you have the ceramic finish (shiny)there no need to worry about it you can use as much lacquer thinner as you want. if it just powder coat (dull finish) just pour some on a paper towel enough to wet the towel but not soak it and wipe it clean just where the gasket sticks
@@KlotesMods thanks! I have the newer ceramic version. I used a carbide gasket scraper and it took all of it off without so much as a scratch to the ceramic! Just hit it with a little alcohol and bam! I even used the scraper to get the stuff that had dripped down by the ash pan door but went much lighter pressure and still not a scratch. Come payday I will be ordering some of your mods especially the firebox and hopper lid mods now that I know I can get that fire gasket to stick like it was going a new grill.
From this video and your website, it’s clear you’re intimately knowledgeable about these smokers. I’m wondering why everyone out there is installing SS liners in the burn box (at least the 560) because of supposed burn through and or rusting but you don’t have it. From the descriptions in your website it’s obvious you only sell what seems to be really needed. Is the firebox fix all hype? Or is your firebox kit basically the same, but 4 separate panels rather than a complete liner like the LSS liner?
my firebox kit is basicly the same but better. i feel like the sleeve is like a bandaid where you covering up the issue (the steel) whereas mine you discard the steel and replace it with the stainless. the whole issue with the steel getting holes throught it is because it gets super heated which causes the carbon in the steel to come out and flake off. it looks like rust but its not its from the heat. stainless has way less carbon in it thats why is works so well. all of this is to keep the ceramic fiber insulation (firebrick)from getting exposed and getting into your food. all of this was found out within weeks of the 560 first being released people complained about it then about 6 months in masterbuilt finally addressed it with a story that i i dont really believe that its suppose to do that and expose the insulation that stuff is nasty i know because you have to cut it to make my firebox mod work and you get all itchy like fiberglass from it just cutting it which tells me its going to get on your food if its ezposed thats why i sell it. now my 4 piece design allows the stainless to move when it heats up because stainless moves alot more than mild steel does when heated plus an added feature it all fits in the same spot designed by masterbuilt for the mild steel which it sits in channels on the top and the bottom and it helps keep it from warping. no it still warps just not near as much as the one piece design. ive seen some really warped one piece that really end up constricting the space which could easily cause bridging with the charcoal and your fire go out hope this helps nathan
I followed the directions in your video for the 560 and the knob seems to be too tall. When I shut the hopper cover, the top of the cover hits the knob about 1/4 inch before the lid makes contact with the gasket and closes. I have the original gaskets. Is this correct, or do I need to find a small (shorter) knob? Thanks
I did this to my 800....makes a better seal AND it keeps all the soot and creosote out of the hopper lid.
I just bought mine. I have the 800 so I heard if you don't have a great seal. Then when you turn off the grill, you lose more charcoal. So sealing is important. Plus I see a lot of dirty grills from it.
You should do the same thing for char griller 980
Another mod for the Masterbuilt…. What is the true cost of the smoker?
Curious why you went with the removable lid with knob vs an installed cover?
this was the original design way before anyone came up with the installed design but i still think this design holds up i feel like it seals better because the rubber gasket on this design seals against the fireblack gasket vs on the installed cover the rubber still has to seal on one side of the stainless cover and that rubber seems to be the issue of not sealing most of the time but it does great when up again the gasket.
@@KlotesMods For what its worth based on initial thoughts, I like this better because it can be cleaned far easier than an installed lid. I know a couple screws isn’t a big deal, and this one isn’t apparent when the lid is closed. I also like the idea of the hopper liner, although it seems a bit pricey relative to the firebox mod. Have you found there is enough breakdown in the hopper to justify this? The firebox is a no brainer bc there is no way allowing the mfrs walls to deteriorate leaving only the insulation/firebricks (depending on your iteration) is a good idea. Thanks for the vids and mods.
Is there a fix for the latch pulling on the heat shield? Seems odd that they put the latch hook on the heat shield without anchoring it too the lid structure which is more sturdy. The tension causes to hear shield to bend and the lid seal to not be as tight as it could be.
i had the latch totally come off on my 560. i drilled a couple holes in the latch and ran 2 screws all the way threw both the heat shield and the lid itself. working great now
@@KlotesMods do you have a picture?
Any advice on how to get the creosote off of the the top of the hopper where the rubber gasket sits so I can get your gasket material to stick?
i had the same problem i took a metal putty knife scraped it as good as i could and then used lacquer thinner to clean it. depending which model you have would depend on how heavy you go with the lacquer thinner. if you have the ceramic finish (shiny)there no need to worry about it you can use as much lacquer thinner as you want. if it just powder coat (dull finish) just pour some on a paper towel enough to wet the towel but not soak it and wipe it clean just where the gasket sticks
@@KlotesMods thanks! I have the newer ceramic version. I used a carbide gasket scraper and it took all of it off without so much as a scratch to the ceramic! Just hit it with a little alcohol and bam! I even used the scraper to get the stuff that had dripped down by the ash pan door but went much lighter pressure and still not a scratch. Come payday I will be ordering some of your mods especially the firebox and hopper lid mods now that I know I can get that fire gasket to stick like it was going a new grill.
@@johnnymissfire8464 great to hear it worked for you!
Where can I find your mods?
@@richmayne596 I believe it's klotesmods.com
Do they have this for gravity 980
Whats the covers dimensions and thickness?
Very nice!
From this video and your website, it’s clear you’re intimately knowledgeable about these smokers. I’m wondering why everyone out there is installing SS liners in the burn box (at least the 560) because of supposed burn through and or rusting but you don’t have it. From the descriptions in your website it’s obvious you only sell what seems to be really needed. Is the firebox fix all hype? Or is your firebox kit basically the same, but 4 separate panels rather than a complete liner like the LSS liner?
my firebox kit is basicly the same but better. i feel like the sleeve is like a bandaid where you covering up the issue (the steel) whereas mine you discard the steel and replace it with the stainless.
the whole issue with the steel getting holes throught it is because it gets super heated which causes the carbon in the steel to come out and flake off. it looks like rust but its not its from the heat. stainless has way less carbon in it thats why is works so well.
all of this is to keep the ceramic fiber insulation (firebrick)from getting exposed and getting into your food. all of this was found out within weeks of the 560 first being released people complained about it then about 6 months in masterbuilt finally addressed it with a story that i i dont really believe that its suppose to do that and expose the insulation that stuff is nasty i know because you have to cut it to make my firebox mod work and you get all itchy like fiberglass from it just cutting it which tells me its going to get on your food if its ezposed thats why i sell it.
now my 4 piece design allows the stainless to move when it heats up because stainless moves alot more than mild steel does when heated plus an added feature it all fits in the same spot designed by masterbuilt for the mild steel which it sits in channels on the top and the bottom and it helps keep it from warping. no it still warps just not near as much as the one piece design. ive seen some really warped one piece that really end up constricting the space which could easily cause bridging with the charcoal and your fire go out
hope this helps
nathan
@@KlotesMods
Holy crap! You are probably going to be recruited by MB to be one of their engineers!!!
@@jackwebb5917😂
I followed the directions in your video for the 560 and the knob seems to be too tall. When I shut the hopper cover, the top of the cover hits the knob about 1/4 inch before the lid makes contact with the gasket and closes. I have the original gaskets. Is this correct, or do I need to find a small (shorter) knob? Thanks
email me klotesmbmods@gmail.com i would like to see pics of how you installed it
@@KlotesMods Thanks for getting back to me. I just emailed you the pics of my install.
@@KlotesMods I am also having this issue on my 560. Email has been sent.
@@yambor44 i havnt gotten any emails. i looked in my junk mail as well. please resend to klotesmods@gmail.com
@@KlotesMods I just re-sent it.