Great video, A couple things to note... You shouldn't install your C9 wire into the zip-plug with a straight cut. You should always stagger the positive and negative wires to prevent arcing. Roughly a 1/4 inch cut. Not doing so could result in a melted zip-plug or type of failure. Also, the positive wire should be placed on the positive prong of the zip-plug and vice versa. Typically the zip-plug is worded on one side to indicate what side you should place the line. C9 wire typically has white lines, dots or a ridge to indicate negative or positive. Not doing so may causes an issue with polarity but might not necessarily be noticeable. Depending on the gauge of C9 wire (or mini lights), there are power rules that should be followed when running a line of lights. You can run a greater amount of LED's vs incandescent's on 1 continuous line. To be conservative, you shouldn't run more than: 100 incandescent C9's on one line 300 incandescent minis end to end 300 LED C9's on one line 600 LED minis end to end. (This might be very conservative as I have seen a continuous line of 1,800 mini plugged in without issues...) If a tree or roof line requires more lights, you should split power accordingly. Plugging in end to end is completely different than stacking mini lights on top of each other. (Plugging a male plug into the backside of another male plug....) Consider a standard 15 amp breaker = 8 units of power. 200 incandescent C9's = 8 units vs 800 LED C9's = 8 units. 400 incandescent minis = 1 unit vs 1,000 LED minis = 1 unit Adding any more lighting to this breaker could result in blow fuses or tripped GFI's. If you are well under 15 amps and blowing fuses, the circuit could be wired with the bathroom (hair dryer), garage door, etc.... Agree or disagree, I am no expert but maybe this will help someone in the future.
very helpful video. One note of caution though! When making your clip on terminations, MAKE SURE TO STICK THE WIRE IN THE CAVITY AND FOLD BACK 90 DEGREES INTO THE CHANNEL! This is designed to be a strain relief. Otherwise the only thing keeping the connection from pulling out is those 2 vampire teeth and if this happened the exposed wire could arc and short out or cause a fire. Happy lighting!
Gonna sell or give away all my lights I have now and go commercial.. dude I’ve been putting up lights on my house for the fourth year... I take pride in doing it and like to dominate my neighborhood..thx for the video.
I use around 250 strings of 100 LED lights. 25 strings on pixel strips. 30 nets. And a few other things. I buy my lights from American lighting and I never had a problem. The only issue is the light bill. It does become a very expensive hobby.
Thank you this was very helpful. I have used store bought ones for several years and they don't last very long. I seem to replace them every 3 years or so. Looking to make the investment in commercial LED lights and this is very helpful. Again, thank you.
Thank you for the information. I needed to know this before buying some. I got the idea from Jason, a pressure washing buy. He talked about pricing and I was some dollar signs lol
Thanks for the video. I'm about to do my first set of lights. Your video was very informative but I have one question. Is there a reason you couldn't just splice wire to wire without having to add plugs in between?
There are in-line female plugs that you can add onto the commercial grade wires anywhere and can eliminate the need for extra cuts and the 3-way plugs.
Great video wanting to start installing them this year once the mowing season slows down my biggest question that I have had a tough time figuring out is pricing how are you pricing/measuring
How much do you charge by the foot or could you give me an idea considering the material needed and labor to help me price it better. Thankyou and god bless.
So our prices range from $3-$3.75 and this includes all material. I’ll add extra charge for timers, extension cords etc, and to take them down. I don’t do lease. Our prices probably will go up next year.
Blades of Grass Lawn Care, LLC It ranges from $400-$700 for front of the home and from $1000-$2500 for front, sides the top roof lines. It’s a very profitable service to offer.
I am thinking it must not snow where you do installs? I like the idea of going up to 2nd shingle to avoid gutters with leaf guard, but if it snows I feel it will cover many of the lights.
We charge by the ft. It’s costing me about $1.30 per ft and I charge between $2.75-3.75 per ft depending on the difficulty of the install. Especially if you are having to do roof lines and the pitch of the roof.
Do you install permanent Christmas lights? And if so, what track system do you use? I’ve seen Permatrack, which looks like specially bent sheet metal with holes punched through it to install pixel lights. This is the route I’m thinking of going but would like to know if it requires some sort of agreement due to a patent or intellectual property of some sort? Or can I just bend the channel tracks myself and save on the cost of the tracks? Thanks
Hello👋🙋♂️ there.. Amazing and very interesting project.. Thanks for sharing helpful information Do keep posting👍 Warm regards and best👍💯 wishes✨✨✨ The UnknownManCub 👍😎👨🏭
Yeah dog, right above the gutter line there is a line of shingles where you clip the lights to it. Watch the video again because he shows the type of clips you need
Most of the time I go with the same shingle tabs just to make it easier to install, but there are a few that I use gutter clips of the shingles are real stiff
I have a customer that wants lights on top of his roof line but it’s Spanish roof .the clips that I have won’t work would you know what would .pls help
I try to keep them stored at my shop at no charge that way I am almost guaranteed to hand them the following year. But I do give them the option to keep them
Yeah. I’ll help with anything I can. Thanks for watching. I am working on a video to post that will show a few other details when installing lights and things to look for
Wow him not folding the wire into the hole and doing the 90 degree is DANGEROUS!!! DONT LISTEN TO HIM!! potential FIRE HAZARD!!! Scared for anyone who has hired him to this. Its malpractice
@@javierdeharo7715 yeah that is one thing I did not explain well in this video . We do spice our wire and fold it so that it does go into its designated slots . This was our first year of doing this so we’ve learned a lot since then
Everything that I have read is not much more than about 300 watts per connector. C9 LED are usually .6-1 watt per bulb. The limitation is the Christmas light male connector, not the outlet, so power strips and splitters at the outlet is just fine. Outlets should be just fine for 1200 watts and that's a lot of lights! Be ware of C9 incandescent as they are 7W per bulb
Excellent video! Thank you!!
THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!! I just bud my first job and after watching this I feel much more confident.
Great video,
A couple things to note...
You shouldn't install your C9 wire into the zip-plug with a straight cut. You should always stagger the positive and negative wires to prevent arcing. Roughly a 1/4 inch cut. Not doing so could result in a melted zip-plug or type of failure. Also, the positive wire should be placed on the positive prong of the zip-plug and vice versa. Typically the zip-plug is worded on one side to indicate what side you should place the line. C9 wire typically has white lines, dots or a ridge to indicate negative or positive. Not doing so may causes an issue with polarity but might not necessarily be noticeable.
Depending on the gauge of C9 wire (or mini lights), there are power rules that should be followed when running a line of lights. You can run a greater amount of LED's vs incandescent's on 1 continuous line.
To be conservative, you shouldn't run more than:
100 incandescent C9's on one line
300 incandescent minis end to end
300 LED C9's on one line
600 LED minis end to end. (This might be very conservative as I have seen a continuous line of 1,800 mini plugged in without issues...)
If a tree or roof line requires more lights, you should split power accordingly.
Plugging in end to end is completely different than stacking mini lights on top of each other. (Plugging a male plug into the backside of another male plug....)
Consider a standard 15 amp breaker = 8 units of power.
200 incandescent C9's = 8 units vs 800 LED C9's = 8 units.
400 incandescent minis = 1 unit vs 1,000 LED minis = 1 unit
Adding any more lighting to this breaker could result in blow fuses or tripped GFI's. If you are well under 15 amps and blowing fuses, the circuit could be wired with the bathroom (hair dryer), garage door, etc....
Agree or disagree, I am no expert but maybe this will help someone in the future.
Great info. I’ve definitely learned a lot from 2 years ago when I started.
This was sooooo helpful
Absolutely, yes.
very helpful video. One note of caution though! When making your clip on terminations, MAKE SURE TO STICK THE WIRE IN THE CAVITY AND FOLD BACK 90 DEGREES INTO THE CHANNEL! This is designed to be a strain relief. Otherwise the only thing keeping the connection from pulling out is those 2 vampire teeth and if this happened the exposed wire could arc and short out or cause a fire. Happy lighting!
Thanks man. No other video on TH-cam provides the clarity that you do.
Thank you for taking the time to teach and educate others.
frente2zapatista I like to share anything I know to help others
Thank you for your video. Was very professional.
I would love to see more videos from you. Great job!!
Gonna sell or give away all my lights I have now and go commercial.. dude I’ve been putting up lights on my house for the fourth year... I take pride in doing it and like to dominate my neighborhood..thx for the video.
I use around 250 strings of 100 LED lights. 25 strings on pixel strips. 30 nets. And a few other things. I buy my lights from American lighting and I never had a problem. The only issue is the light bill. It does become a very expensive hobby.
Great video showing what is done.
Thank you this was very helpful. I have used store bought ones for several years and they don't last very long. I seem to replace them every 3 years or so. Looking to make the investment in commercial LED lights and this is very helpful. Again, thank you.
Not a problem. I’ll be posting more videos on this once we get close to October. We will be offering fall colors as well.
Great video and very informational, looking forward to more videos on this topic.
I’ll definitely be posting a new video here soon. We are getting all the lights out of the shop and will be installing very soon
Man awesome, 1st year doing commercial on my own, worth it
Michelle Castro awesome!!!!!! We’ve been really busy this year and have learned so much more . I Plan ok doing another video with more information
Great video, thank you! Been slowly upgrading our house lighting game. This is the only video I've found explaining the pre-install . Happy holidays!
Thanks for watching
Thank you bro do you have link of all the material and light you recommend this will be my first time lol
Good tire plug tool , comes in handy lol
very clear information. Thanks
Thanks for watching
This is so thorough, thank you
Thanks for watching
Great job keep up the good work I'm thinking about going to commercial grade myself makes since to me
Great video. Thanks for the info.
Thank you for the information. I needed to know this before buying some. I got the idea from Jason, a pressure washing buy. He talked about pricing and I was some dollar signs lol
No problem bro. Any way I can help just let me know. God bless!
@@oxservicesllc5441 thx, I got some questions about marketing Christmas lights. I’ll like to talk to you about it. Do you have a Facebook or email?
Yes look is up on Facebook as Ox Services .
How do u install the sockets for the lights is my next question
Thanks, man.
It's very informative and helpful.
nice video
Great video! Question, how many ft of lights do you run per power outlet?
Best video thus far.
Great video! I appreciate the information you give, the other videos available on here aren't as informative as yours.
Awesome video
Really helped
Do you need a license to put those up with male/female plugs ? In Florida specifically?
Could you do a video on how to run power from one location to another, specially when you have different areas of the roof.
Yes I’ll have a few videos uploaded this week
I am stringing C9 led lights on a private community clubhouse. How many bulbs can be powered by one outlet? There is only 1 outside outlet.
Thanks for the video. I'm about to do my first set of lights. Your video was very informative but I have one question. Is there a reason you couldn't just splice wire to wire without having to add plugs in between?
I see a few installers do it but I fill a lot sage adding females and males on each end plus I believe it looks more professional
There are in-line female plugs that you can add onto the commercial grade wires anywhere and can eliminate the need for extra cuts and the 3-way plugs.
Great video wanting to start installing them this year once the mowing season slows down my biggest question that I have had a tough time figuring out is pricing how are you pricing/measuring
There is a guy on yt named Jason watch his stuff. I’m thinking about doing the same thing you are. I think I would charge 6 dollar a foot
Also I think you measure how much you use for lights then that gives you your price per foot
Thank you, do all the strands of light keep linking together and only plug into one wall outlet?
Try to limit the plug at the wall to around 300W
Where do you get those commercial grade bulbs? I don’t like how dim the big box led are.
How do you do the bypass ?
Are these c7 or c9? Looking to get a set up for next year but not sure which are bettrr
These are C9. They are a lot brighter and bigger then the C7
How much do you charge by the foot or could you give me an idea considering the material needed and labor to help me price it better. Thankyou and god bless.
Commerical.grade? Didnt know they exsisted...who do u.get them.from?
How much do you charge a square foot
I and you give them the lights are the Least them out
So our prices range from $3-$3.75 and this includes all material. I’ll add extra charge for timers, extension cords etc, and to take them down. I don’t do lease. Our prices probably will go up next year.
hi the 3.75. includes all labor.
how much charge this year. for 100 ft material and install.
Do you recommend spt1 or spt2 for wiring
Do your customers purchase or lease the lights?
Where did you get those clips
Ribbed side on the wide plug
What 3 way plugs do you use?
Fantastic video! Great share! New subscriber!
I want to start a Christmas light hanging business
Go for it!!!! It’s a growing industry and it will become very hard to keep up with the calls
Detailed and informative! Whats the average installation price?
Blades of Grass Lawn Care, LLC It ranges from $400-$700 for front of the home and from $1000-$2500 for front, sides the top roof lines. It’s a very profitable service to offer.
how long does it take you to do a home like the one on this video?.and what is the price you charge you charge for a home like this?.....thank you
I am thinking it must not snow where you do installs? I like the idea of going up to 2nd shingle to avoid gutters with leaf guard, but if it snows I feel it will cover many of the lights.
Question do you charge the customer the same price every year or do you just charge an instalation fee??
I read your answer to the avg install price but my question is how do you charge? What are you considering when you give a quote to a customer?
We charge by the ft. It’s costing me about $1.30 per ft and I charge between $2.75-3.75 per ft depending on the difficulty of the install. Especially if you are having to do roof lines and the pitch of the roof.
Where are you getting your supplies from? I’m trying to get my cost down lower. Thank you
We get most of out supplies from Ewing irrigation. We have also ordered online.
How many power outlets do you usually use for all of those lights? Do the lights not dim with the more extensions you add?
Normally just one if it’s less than 500 LED bulbs . They use very little watts
Do you install permanent Christmas lights? And if so, what track system do you use? I’ve seen Permatrack, which looks like specially bent sheet metal with holes punched through it to install pixel lights. This is the route I’m thinking of going but would like to know if it requires some sort of agreement due to a patent or intellectual property of some sort? Or can I just bend the channel tracks myself and save on the cost of the tracks? Thanks
Hello👋🙋♂️ there..
Amazing and very interesting project..
Thanks for sharing helpful information
Do keep posting👍
Warm regards and best👍💯 wishes✨✨✨
The UnknownManCub 👍😎👨🏭
If I already have LED lights from home depot and not commercial can I still cut the wire and use those vampire plugs?
Most of those lights have 3 wires running instead of 2. Those can’t be cut. I’ve never tried it so not really sure
Where do you order your product from?
He put the links in the description and he said gets it locally.
So do you always put it in the shingles even if there’s a gutter?
Yeah dog, right above the gutter line there is a line of shingles where you clip the lights to it. Watch the video again because he shows the type of clips you need
Most of the time I go with the same shingle tabs just to make it easier to install, but there are a few that I use gutter clips of the shingles are real stiff
I have a customer that wants lights on top of his roof line but it’s Spanish roof .the clips that I have won’t work would you know what would .pls help
I’m sorry so late with the reply. What did you end up using ? I used a gutter clip on one that we did and it works ok
@@oxservicesllc5441 I went and used a bigger Commercial gutter clip and it worked great .😊
What is the name of the spool of wire u use as for the extension
Lamp wire
What are the best roofing shoes you use for the high peaks . And Do you recommend SPT1 or spt 2 for the lights
Get some wallabees .. or cougar paws
And your right theirs isn’t much info on TH-cam on hanging lights.. also your title has the word commercial in it. I need to add that I’m my searches
Do you or the customer keep the lights after you take them down?
I try to keep them stored at my shop at no charge that way I am almost guaranteed to hand them the following year. But I do give them the option to keep them
I’m trying to do my home where can I get the best price for warm white led bulbs. Best I can find is 1$ a bulb I need 400 bulbs.
That is about as good as it gets. lol.
Ohh ok now I’m wondering how is the guy that quoted my house $400 making any money lol thanks bud
He might have quoted for non LED. Those go for about $.18 or less a bulb
Whats the name of your local store?
Ewing irrigation is our local store but I also buy supplies online.
I have a couple questions can I ask you on here?
Yeah. I’ll help with anything I can. Thanks for watching. I am working on a video to post that will show a few other details when installing lights and things to look for
Wow him not folding the wire into the hole and doing the 90 degree is DANGEROUS!!! DONT LISTEN TO HIM!! potential FIRE HAZARD!!! Scared for anyone who has hired him to this. Its malpractice
@@javierdeharo7715 yeah that is one thing I did not explain well in this video . We do spice our wire and fold it so that it does go into its designated slots . This was our first year of doing this so we’ve learned a lot since then
How many light strings can you string together on 1 power source?
Everything that I have read is not much more than about 300 watts per connector. C9 LED are usually .6-1 watt per bulb. The limitation is the Christmas light male connector, not the outlet, so power strips and splitters at the outlet is just fine. Outlets should be just fine for 1200 watts and that's a lot of lights! Be ware of C9 incandescent as they are 7W per bulb
How did you make the extension cord sections