RC flying airplanes 1950s-1960s

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  • @jamesberwick2210
    @jamesberwick2210 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Last year I closed out my family home. My dad and I both flew models, RC. I found tons of old movies of dad and I out flying...well dad flying, me having fun. I spent hours in the evening watching these old movies. I had to have been four or five at the time, (Now nearly 70), they brought back loads of memories, Now flying CL, lost most of our fields in CA.

  • @Rick01uk
    @Rick01uk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Takes me back to some very happy days spent with my late dad. We started with free flight then to RC, our first was McGregor single channel with an Elmic actuator, we then moved on to a home built ten channel set followed by an RCS ten channel system before moving on to proportional , we had another RCS system then a Sprengbrook, the last set we had was a Funabashi proportional. One of the nicest planes to fly was the Veron Concord followed closely by an Uproar though was brought up on the KK Super 60. Happy days and happy memories

  • @garyvale8347
    @garyvale8347 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    great video...thanks for sharing.....I grew up in the late 50's watching my father build and fly many of early RC planes......once he built a beautiful airplane, we all went out to the local flying field and my uncle hand launched it.....it flew straight and level.....only problem was , my uncle forgot to turn the receiver switch on.......with a full tank of fuel, it flew out of sight and was never found....sad knowing how much work went into building each of those early balsa, silk and dope covered models.............

  • @martimer
    @martimer 13 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thank you. I came to RC long after proportional radios were around and I appreciate all your dad and those like him did for me.

  • @MrAeronca100
    @MrAeronca100 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I miss those days and can smell the hot castor oil, summers filled with building and flying and those Hobby shop visits where you could dream!

    • @MichaelOlivera-pn9sb
      @MichaelOlivera-pn9sb 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MrAeronca100 yes back in the days
      My dad enthusiastic in this activity taught me dad who's career in aviation
      Had his co workers flying models Thay were rather new @ activity with modern ways dad tock old crash falcon 56 rebuilt
      Using cover all butrate dope & thinner and gave to tommy Thompson Co worker
      To learn to fly so so many memories dale root long time member in bay area / hobby shop viscount pattern plane etc...
      Since then about 12 years has pass on ..& till this day still has his high school u control planes

    • @MichaelOlivera-pn9sb
      @MichaelOlivera-pn9sb 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MrAeronca100 towards the end of his life was working on 1/4 scale T-6 & finished MR.mullegan flown in Las Vegas
      Was doing rolling circles horizontal with phaton 90. ..he started career as electronic technician for CAA latter in time became FAA. & Now has hundreds of planes @ air park in Arizona models that is down in basement. I don't fly as much anymore ; love too with dad when
      He was alive his position was sector chief
      For sky harbor....
      Had moved from California to Arizona .

  • @j.h.holliday5748
    @j.h.holliday5748 8 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    For 223 seconds you time-warped me back to my youth.
    Thanks :)

  • @MichaelOlivera-pn9sb
    @MichaelOlivera-pn9sb 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Reminds me of dads try squire ...with mccoy engines... All built unlike todays modern arfs..owner operator

  • @Datsundoc
    @Datsundoc  12 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I remember them using actuators in the earliest radios. The rudder (and elevator in Galloping Ghost) would flap back and forth and when you gave input it would hold it more to one side or the other. The later radios with reeds had servos but were not proportional. You got full travel when you hit the toggle for a given signal. The best flyers (my Dad included) learned to blip the toggle switches in a way to get smoother input. It was a real skill to fly these planes as smoothly as they did.

  • @CallmeDaBreeze1971
    @CallmeDaBreeze1971 11 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What a treasure. Thanks for posting.

  • @FriesinNF
    @FriesinNF 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great! Yes, i started RC in 1977, everything was very expensive! Flying an aeroplane was a dream . . .but today every one can fly, it is so cheap! Nice to see the old planes! I am looking for an old tramsmitter and receiver with tubes!

  • @Datsundoc
    @Datsundoc  13 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Thank you for the nice comments! Yes, his planes were always beautifully finished. Silk and clear dope and sewn hinges in those days. He's 83 now and still flying planes and helicopters in FL. A great hobby for a lifetime!

  • @louiemattes4594
    @louiemattes4594 11 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Its a beautiful documentary on a hobby we love!!!!

  • @nipancat
    @nipancat 12 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thankyou for putting this on !! talk about memories !

  • @direktorpresident
    @direktorpresident 13 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wonderful! Your Dad's aircraft is clearly very well finished and the performance would put many modern pilots in the shade. Thank you for this

  • @RC-Flight
    @RC-Flight 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice! What a cool old video. Thanks for posting it for all too see.

    • @Datsundoc
      @Datsundoc  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks, we are fortunate that my dad made these films to capture what modeling was like during the period.

  • @BaquePhotography
    @BaquePhotography 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Whoever was filming kept those planes pretty much right in the center of the frame. Thats harder than it looks unless you rehearse the whole thing a few times.

  • @Kyyryilijä22
    @Kyyryilijä22 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really cool planes :) I live near RC-plane field in the 90`s and i spent hours watching the planes fly :) Good times, i had RC-cars back then, Tamiyas and stuff.

  • @Datsundoc
    @Datsundoc  12 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Thanks for your comments John. I agree. I love the convenience of the new ready to fly models but I'm fortunate that my Dad taught me how to build models and I have that experience. It has provided me skills that have helped me through my entire life. Building models also teaches you how an airplane works which makes you a better flier in my opinion.

  • @Targetmaster1066
    @Targetmaster1066 12 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Great video - I still have an old single channel McGreggor and a couple of elastic band driven escapments. It's little wonder that we are losing the skills to actually make any thing now as kids just want to open the box and go - crash it, buy another.
    What sort of moron would give thumbs down for this video?

  • @ToyKingWonder
    @ToyKingWonder 12 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    ...for less than $75, with a cheap radio. Someone starting out can spend his time learning to fly and enjoying it without cringing that his entire expenditure save the radio be lost with one wrong move. This is the way I started, and loved it. Now, I am ready to move to my own design, hand built, and I will be ready to fly something I put so much labor into. Plus, you can bypass all the fuel stuff with dependable, strong electric motors, or go with gas if you wish.

  • @TOKAMEEL
    @TOKAMEEL 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ahhh. The good old days. Thanks!

  • @Datsundoc
    @Datsundoc  13 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Yes, 8mm. My father was a great photographer so we are lucky to have some nice films and photos. Your uncle's vintage plane sounds great. They had some pulse jets back then. I remember seeing/hearing those.

  • @MichaelOlivera-pn9sb
    @MichaelOlivera-pn9sb 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Oh yeah. The days of rubber bands on wing to hold in place the days when new bees came to field with transmitter on & disrupting your planes ability to control your plane in air pulse single chanel rudder only on poly die hederial in wings...this goes back way back to 1960..

  • @ScienceguyOrg
    @ScienceguyOrg 12 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I had a Midwest Esquire with reeds equipment. It flew away and landed in a pasture several miles away. The cows damaged the wings but farmer had called me and I fixed the plane up again. Sold it to a guy to learn on and when he got in trouble flying it he turned off power switch on transmitter and handed to the instructor. Guy said that was a habit from turning off the power on power tools when there was a problem.

  • @Datsundoc
    @Datsundoc  13 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    @triskellian Thanks for the comments, glad you enjoyed it. It was amazing to watch them fly pattern with reeds. The guys that were really good could flick the switches and fly smoothly like it was proportional. I think you are correct that the plane was a Navion.

  • @gertnood
    @gertnood 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great stuff, love the footage. Funny - when people run and hand launch, so many times they seem to run and run without gaining any further speed before launching, i.e. hardly accelerating after the first few steps. Seems like a good way to increase the chance of tripping and crunching the model..

  • @ToyKingWonder
    @ToyKingWonder 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    Not only a great window into time, but shot very well with what I presume to be 8mm film. We don't see enough of these old planes. My uncle still has somewhere an ancient plane from the 1940s, gas, and free flight that he build from scratch with my mom! I still remember in 1966, someone was flying a JET, yes some type of jet, around the fields near the Air Force Academy in Colorado Springs.

  • @stevefox7961
    @stevefox7961 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you

  • @JB73691
    @JB73691 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice Video, way before I was born.

  • @bobrown60c
    @bobrown60c 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I thought they were lucky just to fly level,had no idea they could do the loops and rolls,great video

  • @Datsundoc
    @Datsundoc  13 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    @ricglos Yes, I believe galloping ghost was in the red and yellow plane. I'm familiar with Top Dawg. You are correct, axial rolls need ailerons and in those days that normally wouldn't have been the case. After this time period when flying with servos and proportional, we used to use 2 channels to control elevator and ailerons on small fast airplanes.

  • @ignacioinnovo5308
    @ignacioinnovo5308 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice video! I see happy people there :-)

  • @orange70383
    @orange70383 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    These older planes had a huge range, if you could keep sight of it somehow and had a giant fuel tank you could control it for miles and miles with any inexpensive transmitter hooked up to a ground plane antenna. Under the right conditions you could control the plane for hundreds of miles with the help of a linear amplifier.

  • @MichaelOlivera-pn9sb
    @MichaelOlivera-pn9sb 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Although dad's viscount was state of the art back then as pattern plane..with disc brakes controlled off of down elevator heath kit put out in late 1970 single stick transmitter ..had kraft radio but exspensive...

    • @Datsundoc
      @Datsundoc  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes Orbit was another single stick we had one of those.

  • @ToyKingWonder
    @ToyKingWonder 12 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    John, it depends on your point of view. In the late 70s, I had a friend who, with his dad, built models with cut balsa, and ironed monokote. The planes all cost alot. His dad would get the plane up in the air, then let my friend take over. Like most of us, they had plenty of crashes. Until they got good, they spent 99% of their time building and 1% flying. It took enormous amounts of money and time to get flight time. Now, it's reversed. You can get flight time out of the box

    • @davidmiller5832
      @davidmiller5832 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The hobby changed. There are still just as many, if not more Aviation Modelers than before. But "Modeling" is now shadowed by the hobbyist who want to just fly something. Model Aviation was based on building a model, that also could fly. Hobbyist fly planes that aren't models. Models are something you build. Like a plastic static display model of a car. The same car bought built is a toy. Nothing wrong with the guys who just want a plane to fly, it's just a different aspect of the hobby is all.
      In the 70s and 80s it really didn't cost that much to fly R/C. A 4 channel radio was about $100, 2 ch. about 60. Balsa was really cheap (No wind generators like now) but monokote was the big expense. There was still a lot of silk and dope and even silk span and dope to save money. Nylon stockings have also provided great covering jobs and was free.
      Electrics and gas has been around before R/C. They were used in FF and CL planes as soon as batteries were available.
      Choices were whatever you could think up because whatever you end up with, you would have had to have build it, well most likely. There were some ARFs available since the 70s.

    • @ah-ray
      @ah-ray 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      David Miller My dad grew up in the time of this video (In Belgium) and he gave me a plan of an airplane that everyone here used to build in his childhood as a first plane called 'Der Kleine Uhu'. It's a freeflight airplane and It's so beautifully designed it's still being soms to this day (in foam and rc). Together we built it (out of balsa) and slightly modified it to fit two servo's and a battery so it can be controlled in the air. We tested it together and it flew perfect from the first time (!), no balancing required. I will never forget that expirience. I love flying airplanes but I feel to truly expirience the hobby you really need to have put work into your airplane. If you are interested in seeing the proces of me building it I made a few videos of me making it. (My dad didn't really build along but he guided me trough the proces).

  • @savemyrepublic
    @savemyrepublic 10 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Those were the days, it will never be the same. That young man at 30 seconds would be William Bertrand. He helped me with my models many times back in the early 80s, that was the best time of my life. He was killed some years ago when he flew his Thorp 18 into a lake. He had just restored a full size Stager Wing Beechcraft and was ready for a test flight before he died. Thanks for the video, who would of believed the advancement of model aviation. One more thing, I found a box of my old RC stuff from the 60s, any suggestion what to do with it all. I hate to see it get thrown away. Thanks again, Steve

    • @davidmiller5832
      @davidmiller5832 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for sharing that story. And Keep the gear! It's history.

  • @fargknob
    @fargknob 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Outstanding save......thanks

  • @triskellian
    @triskellian 13 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What a wonderful glimpse into some aeromodeling nostalgia! My brother and I got into the hobby in the early eighties and it was pretty refined at the time.Quite a feat what your dad and his friends were doing with their equipment in those days! The red plane that was hand launched seems familiar to me.Isn't it a scale model of a Navion? Again, nice posting.:-)

  • @Datsundoc
    @Datsundoc  12 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    No, I wish he did still have it as I'd love to have it now.

  • @tdshaker
    @tdshaker 11 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Was that Hal DeBolt in the video? I think it was. I saw a few DEMCO planes here. There were no servos back then, just wound up rubber bands, escapements, simple on-off switches using radio signals. Nice old Navion.

    • @TCSC47
      @TCSC47 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There were servos in the early 60's

  • @aerofpv2109
    @aerofpv2109 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing .. pre EPP, EPO foam and pre lipos. Pioneers.

    • @lufwaffeaircraft
      @lufwaffeaircraft 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Pre lipos and foam is an understatement

    • @David-hm9ic
      @David-hm9ic 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Pre EPP? Try pre-transistor! This is the silk and dope, vacuum tube days. Did you see those ground based transmitters with tall antennae? The early servos were about the size of a box of wooden kitchen matches.

  • @sebastianmarconi2855
    @sebastianmarconi2855 11 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    those were they days!!

  • @petejulie1000
    @petejulie1000 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great memories here. I still have the old tail waggers but don't fly them any more. Chanel 27 is way too clutered. Amazing how radios have advanced and relitively cheap they are! I have an Orbit 4 chanel from the early 60s.....Pete

  • @ToyKingWonder
    @ToyKingWonder 12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The bottom line, is things have gotten better, and you have more choices now than ever before.

  • @OcotilloTom
    @OcotilloTom 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    I still have a Powerhouse, Quaker and Playboy that I built and flew in the 80's. Engines too.

  • @monkfry
    @monkfry 12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dislike what? The fact that you weren't there! Haha ! Boss clips!

  • @youknoweverything7643
    @youknoweverything7643 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    In these vintage videos when you see a man with a cigarette hanging out of his mouth while working on the planes and flying you know he has experience

  • @JarcodeRover
    @JarcodeRover 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very nice video!!

  • @Datsundoc
    @Datsundoc  13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @ricglos Yes, Snap rolls and loops with rudder and elevator.

  • @yeriaf
    @yeriaf 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Reminds me of flying a Queen Bee with ED radios at RAF Leconfield in 1950.

  • @greyseal7
    @greyseal7 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I've heard of Joe Unger.

  • @tooberoot
    @tooberoot 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    when did these "reed based" radios replace escapements? I am very interested in RC history

    • @Datsundoc
      @Datsundoc  9 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      tooberoot I'm not sure on the exact timing but by the early 1960's multichannel reeds with servos were being used regularly in the larger pattern airplanes. Smaller planes used the single and two channel escapements. "galloping ghost" was the one I remember as the two channel rudder/elevator system. Proportional radios came about in the mid to late 60s and advanced quickly from there. By the 70s pretty much everyone we flew with was using proportional radios. We used to fly really small models with Ace single channels with proportional control but an actuator on the rudder. The rudder flapped but moved proportionally with the stick movement to one side vs. the other. A neat system and very light for the time.

    • @Edubarca46
      @Edubarca46 9 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      tooberoot They didn't really replaced escapements. Reeds allow several functions such as ailerons, rudder, elevator, throttle etc. However, this system was "bang-bang" not proportional which means the servo moves proportionally to the transmitter stick movement. Escapements were mostly used for single channel or at the most, two functions. Sometimes, they could even move a third function.
      This video does brings back memories and there are models that are rarely seen today like the Berkeley Ryan Navion.

    • @tooberoot
      @tooberoot 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I started flying in 1990. By '91 of course everyone was switching over to "1991 ready" radios. I remember a guy gave me an 8 channel Futaba made in the mid to late eighties that I could not use at my AMA compliant club.. Oh the memories. My first plane was a Goldberg PT40 with a .40 HP ( German ringed engine ) I still fly foamies and have a Sig Four Star .40 , just barely below the income line to be able to afford to fly. The AMA insurance was around 20bucks when I started.. I dunno even wanna know what it mite be now. :) Good to be able to chat RC
      I am still a capable pilot, maybe I can get my four star recovered. I have an old Irvine .40 ABC that I've kept in an oily rag. Man was that a good engine..

    • @krystlewillard3971
      @krystlewillard3971 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Eduardo Barrigqq

    • @sharpsdoublerifle1439
      @sharpsdoublerifle1439 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Not all of those old radios are wide band. ANY FM radio is 100% legal, all odd frequency AM and low frequency AM radios are narrow band. You can also get a wide band AM tuned to narrow band and make it legal. Just google " is my radio legal", and you'll find tons of docs on this. Those old futaba FG radios are great and uber reliable. High quality made in japan stuff, you can't find any new radio today that can match that quality. I've had three chinese made radios fail in flight...never one of my oldies.

  • @Datsundoc
    @Datsundoc  11 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for the comments.

  • @jorgenelsonfelix52
    @jorgenelsonfelix52 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excelente muy bueno 😆👍👍👍👍👍

  • @paperaircraft12
    @paperaircraft12 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    do they have any servos at the 1950s?

  • @borrillj
    @borrillj 12 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Have we lost something now as not much of a challenge as things are ready out of the Box , hard to get Tissue and Dope how I miss the smell , and balsa cement on the fingers , smell of ether in the fuel those where the days, thank goodness we still have old time model Comps ,

  • @Gavs_rc_hobbies
    @Gavs_rc_hobbies 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    im sorry, but i had to laugh my ass off at 1:20 when that guy was running to launch the model, only to have it fall into the grass!

  • @tomasjay1005
    @tomasjay1005 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    And now we have to fly with an FAA registration number affixed to our planes to comply with Federal aviation laws. What used to be a very special hobby is now something every Tom, Dick and Harry is into and causing safety issues. Too many people, too much government has screwed up the hobby.

  • @Sirka
    @Sirka 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    whoooooowwww this is nice ...thanks

  • @01monyong
    @01monyong 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    thank you technology

  • @Mobile-Game-Magic
    @Mobile-Game-Magic 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Que Pasada , Muy Bueno !! ;)

  • @ib422000
    @ib422000 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    The answer is in the question!

  • @bendekounyoucef3468
    @bendekounyoucef3468 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    good time

  • @andysolution62
    @andysolution62 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    herrliche Zeiten...

  • @szaki
    @szaki 11 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    ... and no one is fat in the video.
    I bet, they never heard of dieting either!

    • @petejulie1000
      @petejulie1000 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oh yea? You otta see em now!!!

    • @davidmiller5832
      @davidmiller5832 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It was before the government cracked down on saturated fats in processed foods. After that food tasted like crap, so the food industry added sugar for taste... Well we all know how that all worked out.

  • @elcotorro
    @elcotorro 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    No se oye nada

  • @daveday5507
    @daveday5507 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The golden days when you needed a car just to carry your transmitter. More radio than control. This is meaningless without text or a voiceover.

  • @flymrc77
    @flymrc77 12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Gasoline and cigarettes.

  • @st._rman8503
    @st._rman8503 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    :)